Sunday, 2013-01-06

lbtwell, welcome aboard00:00
lbtdo you do this kind of thing for work too ?00:01
MariusmssjI'm a PhD student, Know some C, C++, Java and so on00:01
lbt*nod*00:01
MariusmssjMy PhD is to do with medical stereoscopic cameras00:02
lbtwell, it's a really interesting place IMHO00:02
MariusmssjI plan to build one using 3 raspberry Pi's00:02
lbtMer is a very suitable OS for putting into medical devices too00:02
Mariusmssjand I would like to use Mer and the core of the software00:02
lbtwe have companies that are interested in using it for that00:03
lbtdepends on the HW architecture00:03
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MariusmssjSeems like Mer would be the right choice00:03
lbtoften you have a discrete UI/control box00:03
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lbtthat needs to present data and also provide connectivity00:03
lbteg to upload results to servers00:04
Mariusmssjahhhh I see00:04
MariusmssjHows the drivers like with Mer?00:04
lbtMer has no kernel  :)00:04
lbtyou provide your own00:04
lbtand 3D drivers for gpu etc00:04
lbtwe specify certain APIs00:05
lbtCONFIG_*00:05
MariusmssjThat's why i'm very interested in the kernel project00:05
M4rtinKBTW, some remarks to the privacy framework from an application developer:00:06
lbthttps://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check00:06
lbtM4rtinK: it may be best to send them to the ml00:06
lbtirc is very transient and I wouldn't want to lose comments00:06
M4rtinKlbt: hmm, good point :)00:06
M4rtinKI'll do that too then :)00:07
lbttoo is good00:07
MariusmssjThanks lbt :)00:07
M4rtinKjust in short: should be language independent (DBUS, procfs ?), app should be able to check granted priviledges & maybe request  additional from the user when needed00:08
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M4rtinKalso, user granting just a subset of privileges (app can check its privileges at startup so it can handle this) would be nice00:09
lbttbh I'd like to see links to best-practice rather than attempts to re-invent00:11
lbtit's a truly difficult problem and frankly I think we have to look to build on an existing approach00:11
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M4rtinKwell, I'm basically just listing my concerns :)00:11
Mariusmssjok off to bet thanks for all the help and answers, goodnight to everyone00:11
Mariusmssj*bed00:12
lbtnight00:12
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M4rtinKI'll check.out the discussion on the ML :)00:12
lbtM4rtinK: sure - worth doing00:12
M4rtinKit sure isn't easy, but just looking at the current implementations (Android, Aegis) shows there is quite a lot of bad decisionsPimplementations to be avoided :)00:14
M4rtinKdecisionsPimplementations -> decisions/implementations00:15
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jayrulezYou said mer does not have a kernel. Does this mean that Mer is mostly kernel agnostic and can be easily used on different kernels?00:28
jayrulezOr is it inherently tied to the linux kernel?00:28
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kontiolbt: ping00:31
lbtkontio: hey00:32
lbtjayrulez: it's very tied to linux00:32
kontiohi, seems there is a problem with merproject.org domain?00:32
lbtwe use systemd :)00:32
lbtkontio: yes :(00:32
kontioah you know already...00:33
lbtkontio: Stskeeps added the slave but I think X-Fade needs to allow zone xfer from the IP00:33
lbtI don't have access to either system00:33
jayrulezlbt: Ok, So what exactly is Mer at the moment?00:34
kontioah, ok, just wanted to inform you guys00:34
lbtjayrulez: well, if www were up I'd send you there...00:34
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lbtessentially it's what we think MeeGo should have been00:35
lbta solid base for making products00:35
jayrulezBut meego had a UI no? So far I've seen none for Mer...00:35
lbtcorrect00:36
lbtMer has no UI00:36
lbtwhich allows nemomobile to make one, or Jolla, or plasma active, or IVI people, or TV people00:36
lbtnowadays making a UI using Qt/QML is fairly simple00:37
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lbtit's also where most products differentiate00:37
lbtso why should Mer try and make one for them ?00:37
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jayrulezI see00:41
jayrulezI had no idea plasma active was using Mer.00:43
lbtjayrulez: it's a different proposition to most linux distros00:43
jayrulezI was under the impression that Mer was an end user product but that's where i went wrong.00:44
lbtyep - np00:44
lbtour goal is to make it easy for vendors to make products00:45
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davidqimorning all01:05
davidqihttp://releases.merproject.org/ is not available, is it?01:06
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M4rtinKknown DNS error01:08
davidqio... who is now handling it?01:09
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M4rtinKIMHO lbt & Stskeeps are already looking into it01:11
davidqithanks your info :)01:12
M4rtinKnp :)01:12
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davidqihi all, when I follows https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2, I met a problem06:23
davidqiI can not compile the hello.c successfully06:23
davidqieven after the command: sb2 -t mer-core -m sdk-install -R zypper in glibc-devel06:23
davidqithe problem is still there06:24
davidqidid anyone of you meet this before?06:24
davidqiI always got the results:06:27
davidqiLoading repository data ...06:27
davidqiExit reason and status: signal 11 (core dumped)06:27
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situMorning everyone07:25
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phaeronmorning07:57
phaeronsitu: did you get my last message  from yesterday ?07:57
situhmm no ?07:58
phaeronresent08:04
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Stskeepsmorn all08:50
lpotterhi08:50
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Bostikaye-aye08:54
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StskeepsBostik: does your current .py script only do tarball modules, or does it support tarballs + individual git modules?09:02
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BostikStskeeps: external tarballs aren't yet supported, it uses git-only at the moment09:09
Stskeepsokay09:10
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BostikStskeeps: mostly because I needed to get the modules built and working, the prebuilt tarball support shouldn't take too much but I wanted to have something reasonable with it09:11
Bostikas in "not judt tossed in"09:11
Stskeepsmakes sense09:11
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Stskeepsdamn, it's grey outside09:30
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Bostik6 months a year...09:43
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lbtBostik: hey, how cold is it atm?09:53
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Bostik~0 C09:55
lbtty - not silly cold then :)09:56
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Bostikjust bleak09:56
* Stskeeps notes "not long underwear weather"09:57
* lbt was wondering :)09:58
lbtok ... need to test mic 0.14-mer1 in Mer:Tools:Testing, then push to Tools and do a rolling snap09:58
lbtSage: can you test the mic in M:T:T for me09:58
Bostikat least it's not "lazy wind" weather09:59
lbtI need to pop out for 15min09:59
Bostikthat is wind which can't be bothered to go around people and blows straight through instead09:59
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Sagelbt: well I can test on wednesday probably10:12
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Stskeeps'lo Jonni - happy new year!16:14
Jonnithanks, happy new year for you too :)16:15
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Jonnijust figured out howto reclaim my nick from nickserver, someone was using it during winter holidays :)16:16
Stskeepshehe16:16
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Stskeepscurrently packing for .fi trip, such a hassle to find all your equipment when having just moved apartment..16:18
Jonniclean clothes and a laptop, all the rest you can buy/borrow in finland :)16:21
Stskeepslast time around i remembered all my equipment but forgot deodorant..16:22
Stskeepsmy priorities are not very strong16:23
Nicd-that happens16:25
Nicd-I usually forget something like my deodorant, toothbrush, underwear...16:25
Nicd-but I've never forgotten my laptop! :P16:26
* situ remembers his deodrant was taken by police while switching flights in finland16:31
Nicd-maybe the pilot has asthma and they're protecting him from too strong scents16:32
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situBecause no liquids are allowed in hand baggage :)16:34
situI had a water bottle in my hand, and threw it in dustbin telling my fellow passenger "Hey we can't take liquids in flight"...  only to realize after 5 minutes that my deodrant is liquid too :P16:37
Stskeepshehe16:37
Stskeepsbbl16:38
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Stskeepshello alalala18:25
CosmoHillhello18:25
alalalahi im just looking around, nverused irc before, but have an N9, and was curious whats up here18:26
Stskeepssure - this place is mostly about mer core18:26
CosmoHilloh you're a person, I thought Stskeeps was singing18:27
CosmoHillwelcome alalala18:27
alalalai'm a person yes, and i know its about mercore, i got here from http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8697118:28
Stskeepsalright18:28
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CosmoHillnight night21:49
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GeneralAntillesI was supposed to bug somebody about the username character limit on merproject.org weeks ago.23:10
GeneralAntillesNow I've forgotten who.23:10
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