| lbt | well, welcome aboard | 00:00 |
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| lbt | do you do this kind of thing for work too ? | 00:01 |
| Mariusmssj | I'm a PhD student, Know some C, C++, Java and so on | 00:01 |
| lbt | *nod* | 00:01 |
| Mariusmssj | My PhD is to do with medical stereoscopic cameras | 00:02 |
| lbt | well, it's a really interesting place IMHO | 00:02 |
| Mariusmssj | I plan to build one using 3 raspberry Pi's | 00:02 |
| lbt | Mer is a very suitable OS for putting into medical devices too | 00:02 |
| Mariusmssj | and I would like to use Mer and the core of the software | 00:02 |
| lbt | we have companies that are interested in using it for that | 00:03 |
| lbt | depends on the HW architecture | 00:03 |
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| Mariusmssj | Seems like Mer would be the right choice | 00:03 |
| lbt | often you have a discrete UI/control box | 00:03 |
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| lbt | that needs to present data and also provide connectivity | 00:03 |
| lbt | eg to upload results to servers | 00:04 |
| Mariusmssj | ahhhh I see | 00:04 |
| Mariusmssj | Hows the drivers like with Mer? | 00:04 |
| lbt | Mer has no kernel :) | 00:04 |
| lbt | you provide your own | 00:04 |
| lbt | and 3D drivers for gpu etc | 00:04 |
| lbt | we specify certain APIs | 00:05 |
| lbt | CONFIG_* | 00:05 |
| Mariusmssj | That's why i'm very interested in the kernel project | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, some remarks to the privacy framework from an application developer: | 00:06 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check | 00:06 |
| lbt | M4rtinK: it may be best to send them to the ml | 00:06 |
| lbt | irc is very transient and I wouldn't want to lose comments | 00:06 |
| M4rtinK | lbt: hmm, good point :) | 00:06 |
| M4rtinK | I'll do that too then :) | 00:07 |
| lbt | too is good | 00:07 |
| Mariusmssj | Thanks lbt :) | 00:07 |
| M4rtinK | just in short: should be language independent (DBUS, procfs ?), app should be able to check granted priviledges & maybe request additional from the user when needed | 00:08 |
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| M4rtinK | also, user granting just a subset of privileges (app can check its privileges at startup so it can handle this) would be nice | 00:09 |
| lbt | tbh I'd like to see links to best-practice rather than attempts to re-invent | 00:11 |
| lbt | it's a truly difficult problem and frankly I think we have to look to build on an existing approach | 00:11 |
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| M4rtinK | well, I'm basically just listing my concerns :) | 00:11 |
| Mariusmssj | ok off to bet thanks for all the help and answers, goodnight to everyone | 00:11 |
| Mariusmssj | *bed | 00:12 |
| lbt | night | 00:12 |
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| M4rtinK | I'll check.out the discussion on the ML :) | 00:12 |
| lbt | M4rtinK: sure - worth doing | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | it sure isn't easy, but just looking at the current implementations (Android, Aegis) shows there is quite a lot of bad decisionsPimplementations to be avoided :) | 00:14 |
| M4rtinK | decisionsPimplementations -> decisions/implementations | 00:15 |
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| jayrulez | You said mer does not have a kernel. Does this mean that Mer is mostly kernel agnostic and can be easily used on different kernels? | 00:28 |
| jayrulez | Or is it inherently tied to the linux kernel? | 00:28 |
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| kontio | lbt: ping | 00:31 |
| lbt | kontio: hey | 00:32 |
| lbt | jayrulez: it's very tied to linux | 00:32 |
| kontio | hi, seems there is a problem with merproject.org domain? | 00:32 |
| lbt | we use systemd :) | 00:32 |
| lbt | kontio: yes :( | 00:32 |
| kontio | ah you know already... | 00:33 |
| lbt | kontio: Stskeeps added the slave but I think X-Fade needs to allow zone xfer from the IP | 00:33 |
| lbt | I don't have access to either system | 00:33 |
| jayrulez | lbt: Ok, So what exactly is Mer at the moment? | 00:34 |
| kontio | ah, ok, just wanted to inform you guys | 00:34 |
| lbt | jayrulez: well, if www were up I'd send you there... | 00:34 |
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| lbt | essentially it's what we think MeeGo should have been | 00:35 |
| lbt | a solid base for making products | 00:35 |
| jayrulez | But meego had a UI no? So far I've seen none for Mer... | 00:35 |
| lbt | correct | 00:36 |
| lbt | Mer has no UI | 00:36 |
| lbt | which allows nemomobile to make one, or Jolla, or plasma active, or IVI people, or TV people | 00:36 |
| lbt | nowadays making a UI using Qt/QML is fairly simple | 00:37 |
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| lbt | it's also where most products differentiate | 00:37 |
| lbt | so why should Mer try and make one for them ? | 00:37 |
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| jayrulez | I see | 00:41 |
| jayrulez | I had no idea plasma active was using Mer. | 00:43 |
| lbt | jayrulez: it's a different proposition to most linux distros | 00:43 |
| jayrulez | I was under the impression that Mer was an end user product but that's where i went wrong. | 00:44 |
| lbt | yep - np | 00:44 |
| lbt | our goal is to make it easy for vendors to make products | 00:45 |
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| davidqi | morning all | 01:05 |
| davidqi | http://releases.merproject.org/ is not available, is it? | 01:06 |
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| M4rtinK | known DNS error | 01:08 |
| davidqi | o... who is now handling it? | 01:09 |
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| M4rtinK | IMHO lbt & Stskeeps are already looking into it | 01:11 |
| davidqi | thanks your info :) | 01:12 |
| M4rtinK | np :) | 01:12 |
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| davidqi | hi all, when I follows https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2, I met a problem | 06:23 |
| davidqi | I can not compile the hello.c successfully | 06:23 |
| davidqi | even after the command: sb2 -t mer-core -m sdk-install -R zypper in glibc-devel | 06:23 |
| davidqi | the problem is still there | 06:24 |
| davidqi | did anyone of you meet this before? | 06:24 |
| davidqi | I always got the results: | 06:27 |
| davidqi | Loading repository data ... | 06:27 |
| davidqi | Exit reason and status: signal 11 (core dumped) | 06:27 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 07:25 |
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| phaeron | morning | 07:57 |
| phaeron | situ: did you get my last message from yesterday ? | 07:57 |
| situ | hmm no ? | 07:58 |
| phaeron | resent | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | morn all | 08:50 |
| lpotter | hi | 08:50 |
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| Bostik | aye-aye | 08:54 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: does your current .py script only do tarball modules, or does it support tarballs + individual git modules? | 09:02 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: external tarballs aren't yet supported, it uses git-only at the moment | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 09:10 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: mostly because I needed to get the modules built and working, the prebuilt tarball support shouldn't take too much but I wanted to have something reasonable with it | 09:11 |
| Bostik | as in "not judt tossed in" | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 09:11 |
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| Stskeeps | damn, it's grey outside | 09:30 |
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| Bostik | 6 months a year... | 09:43 |
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| lbt | Bostik: hey, how cold is it atm? | 09:53 |
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| Bostik | ~0 C | 09:55 |
| lbt | ty - not silly cold then :) | 09:56 |
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| Bostik | just bleak | 09:56 |
| * Stskeeps notes "not long underwear weather" | 09:57 | |
| * lbt was wondering :) | 09:58 | |
| lbt | ok ... need to test mic 0.14-mer1 in Mer:Tools:Testing, then push to Tools and do a rolling snap | 09:58 |
| lbt | Sage: can you test the mic in M:T:T for me | 09:58 |
| Bostik | at least it's not "lazy wind" weather | 09:59 |
| lbt | I need to pop out for 15min | 09:59 |
| Bostik | that is wind which can't be bothered to go around people and blows straight through instead | 09:59 |
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| Sage | lbt: well I can test on wednesday probably | 10:12 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo Jonni - happy new year! | 16:14 |
| Jonni | thanks, happy new year for you too :) | 16:15 |
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| Jonni | just figured out howto reclaim my nick from nickserver, someone was using it during winter holidays :) | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:16 |
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| Stskeeps | currently packing for .fi trip, such a hassle to find all your equipment when having just moved apartment.. | 16:18 |
| Jonni | clean clothes and a laptop, all the rest you can buy/borrow in finland :) | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | last time around i remembered all my equipment but forgot deodorant.. | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | my priorities are not very strong | 16:23 |
| Nicd- | that happens | 16:25 |
| Nicd- | I usually forget something like my deodorant, toothbrush, underwear... | 16:25 |
| Nicd- | but I've never forgotten my laptop! :P | 16:26 |
| * situ remembers his deodrant was taken by police while switching flights in finland | 16:31 | |
| Nicd- | maybe the pilot has asthma and they're protecting him from too strong scents | 16:32 |
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| situ | Because no liquids are allowed in hand baggage :) | 16:34 |
| situ | I had a water bottle in my hand, and threw it in dustbin telling my fellow passenger "Hey we can't take liquids in flight"... only to realize after 5 minutes that my deodrant is liquid too :P | 16:37 |
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| Stskeeps | hello alalala | 18:25 |
| CosmoHill | hello | 18:25 |
| alalala | hi im just looking around, nverused irc before, but have an N9, and was curious whats up here | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | sure - this place is mostly about mer core | 18:26 |
| CosmoHill | oh you're a person, I thought Stskeeps was singing | 18:27 |
| CosmoHill | welcome alalala | 18:27 |
| alalala | i'm a person yes, and i know its about mercore, i got here from http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86971 | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 18:28 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 21:49 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I was supposed to bug somebody about the username character limit on merproject.org weeks ago. | 23:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | Now I've forgotten who. | 23:10 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt | 23:18 |
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