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| tofus | hello. is anyone here | 02:49 |
| Mazali | yup | 02:50 |
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| tofus | just wanted to ask something what do you need to post mer to another phone. Apart from the kernel source, do you need anything else | 02:51 |
| lbt_ | mainly any graphics drivers and sometimes other HW drivers | 02:53 |
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| lbt_ | eek | 02:54 |
| lbt_ | ah | 02:54 |
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| tofus | ahh okay. i had read aout htc dna releasing their kernel source. so was wonder wether it might be possible to try ad get mer running there | 02:55 |
| lbt_ | yes, but it depends what you want to run | 02:55 |
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| tofus | @lbt: could you expand on that a bit | 02:55 |
| lbt_ | gimme a sec | 02:55 |
| tofus | @lt thank you | 02:55 |
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| chriadam | mardy: ping: looking at the Identity documentation for the storeCredentials() function: what does "If default value is used for the parameter the Identity object stores the internally stored information, e.g. the IdentityInfo object used to create a new identity using Identity::newIdentity()" mean, exactly? | 03:03 |
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| lbt_ | tofus: hey | 03:56 |
| lbt_ | so, mer is typically aimed at people/companies that have hardware and drivers for it | 03:57 |
| tofus | ahh okay | 03:57 |
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| lbt_ | we provide the stack from just above the kernel to the X/Wayland/Qt layer | 03:57 |
| lbt_ | then you add a hardware adaptation layer and a UI layer | 03:57 |
| tofus | i see | 03:58 |
| lbt_ | the HA layer is a kernel and possibly drivers for X/Wayland | 03:58 |
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| tofus | so what part of the equation has htc released | 03:58 |
| lbt_ | personally I don't know | 03:58 |
| tofus | okay | 03:59 |
| lbt_ | probably enough to get Mer running to non-accel X/Qt | 03:59 |
| tofus | so that would mean that i could get it till a terminal session? | 03:59 |
| lbt_ | which is actually very usable - but not a great use of such a device | 03:59 |
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| lbt_ | yes, almost certainly | 03:59 |
| lbt_ | then - if you want to get into some real hardcore hacking ... there's more... | 03:59 |
| tofus | could you expand a bit on that? | 04:00 |
| lbt_ | we're looking at a mechanism to take android 3D drivers and link them into glibc space | 04:00 |
| lbt_ | google libhybris | 04:00 |
| tofus | but isnt that blobs? till now no one has released eith a open source version or documention for gpu's | 04:01 |
| lbt_ | yeah :) | 04:01 |
| tofus | does mer allow for blobs in it? :O | 04:01 |
| lbt_ | we are pragmatic - the FSF would not approve ;) | 04:01 |
| tofus | ahh okay | 04:02 |
| lbt_ | OTOH we do significantly increase participation in OSS - so we feel we're making very good progress | 04:02 |
| lbt_ | right - need to go now ... | 04:02 |
| lbt_ | I'll be around l8r or Stskeeps will | 04:02 |
| lbt_ | o/ | 04:02 |
| tofus | thank you for the explaantaion i appreciate it very much :) | 04:03 |
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| jayrulez | lbt_ have you had a look at genode os framework? | 04:07 |
| iekku | morning | 04:10 |
| jayrulez | good morning | 04:11 |
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| iekku | who where? | 07:30 |
| CosmoHill | Essex UK | 07:31 |
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| mardy | chriadam: if you call storeIdentity() with no parameters, then the IdentityInfo which will be stored will be the one passed to Identity::newIdentity() | 07:57 |
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| zhxt | hi, everyone | 13:37 |
| zhxt | what is the most possible reason for "VM is not registered" | 13:37 |
| zhxt | when adding target to MerSDK? | 13:38 |
| zhxt | any advices? | 13:43 |
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| aportale | yunta: ping. | 13:48 |
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| aportale | zhxt: You mean when using the Options dialog in Qt Creator? | 13:59 |
| zhxt | aportale: yes | 14:00 |
| aportale | zhxt: Is your VM called exactly "MerSDK"? | 14:00 |
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| aportale | zhxt: If not, you can adjust the name in the "Virtual Machine" tab | 14:01 |
| zhxt | yes, MerSDK. | 14:01 |
| aportale | zhxt: Did you try the "Test Connection" button | 14:02 |
| aportale | ? | 14:02 |
| zhxt | yeah, I tried. It always say "VM is not registered". | 14:03 |
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| zhxt | says. :P | 14:03 |
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| aportale | zhxt: Can you manually connect to the VM? ssh -p 2222 mersdk@localhost | 14:05 |
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| zhxt | yes, I can connect to VM using command line. | 14:06 |
| zhxt | aportale: then ? | 14:07 |
| aportale | zhxt: I am wondering what goes wrong. The errormessage is certainly misleading. | 14:07 |
| aportale | zhxt: You use Linux, right? | 14:08 |
| zhxt | yes, openSUSE 12.2 | 14:08 |
| zhxt | http://img.susepaste.org/27337284 | 14:08 |
| * CosmoHill orders business cards :) | 14:12 | |
| zhxt | aportale: I have deleted that target and tried again, then I got an error: "VM is not running". | 14:13 |
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| aportale | zhxt: A Mer target? | 14:13 |
| zhxt | no, nemo target. | 14:13 |
| aportale | zhxt: Any target should ideally not interfere with VM connectivity. | 14:14 |
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| aportale | zhxt: But the "Mer mode" in Qt Cerator works, right? | 14:15 |
| zhxt | I'm not sure what it is supposed to be. when I clicked MerSDK button on the left bar, | 14:16 |
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| zhxt | nothing found in the right.(main view) | 14:17 |
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| aportale | zhxt: Ok, I meant that. | 14:17 |
| zhxt | except a blank gray window. | 14:17 |
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| aportale | zhxt: Another approach.. do you have VBoxManage in the path? | 14:18 |
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| zhxt | you mean that cmd: VBoxManage ? | 14:19 |
| aportale | zhxt: Yes | 14:19 |
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| zhxt | yes, I have that cmd. | 14:19 |
| aportale | zhxt: What is the output of "VBoxManage list vms"? | 14:22 |
| zhxt | wait a little | 14:22 |
| zhxt | zhxt@openSUSE:/srv/mer/targets/nemo_n9/bin> VBoxManage list vms | 14:23 |
| zhxt | "WindowsXP" {e13040c9-c9a0-49f8-bd46-b806413e1a05} | 14:23 |
| zhxt | "MerSDK" {aa67a8a7-41b0-4a28-bfd0-cefdb3ecf22e} | 14:23 |
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| aportale | zhxt: I am trying to follow what Qt Creator does. Sorry for the slow answers.. | 14:27 |
| aportale | zhxt: If you have time, can you paste the output of "VBoxManage showvminfo MerSDK --machinereadable"? | 14:27 |
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| zhxt | okay. | 14:28 |
| aportale | zhxt: on a paste-board, ideally :) | 14:28 |
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| zhxt | aportale: here it is: http://pastie.org/5484043 | 14:30 |
| zhxt | here is it. :p | 14:31 |
| sledges | fellows, I can objdump libpthread.so.0 from glibc-2.15-2.14.armv7hl.rpm but I cannot objdump libpthread.so.0.debug from glibc-debuginfo-2.15-2.14.armv7hl.rpm - it just prints libpthread.so.0.debug: file format elf32-littlearm | 14:31 |
| sledges | and quits | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: install cross-armv7hl-binutils | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | and /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-objdump maybe | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | also, .debug is just Debug info | 14:31 |
| sledges | I am using another cross compiler | 14:32 |
| sledges | is it? I thought so! but it has ELF header etc | 14:32 |
| sledges | so got confused | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's just stripped out | 14:32 |
| aportale | zhxt: Looks all correct. I was interested in the exact strings SharedFolder* and Forwarding* | 14:32 |
| zhxt | aportable: you mean that could be a reason? | 14:34 |
| sledges | thanks Stskeeps | 14:34 |
| aportale | zhxt: They look as expected, so I do not believe they are the reason | 14:34 |
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| zhxt | aportale: when I set VB to enable symlinks, I have run that cmd wrong the fist time. | 14:37 |
| zhxt | VBoxManage setextradata MerSDK VBoxInternal2/SharedFoldersEnableSymlinksCreate/home 1 | 14:38 |
| yunta | aportale: pong | 14:38 |
| zhxt | I missed a word "Create" in "SharedFoldersEnableSymlinksCreate", | 14:39 |
| aportale | zhxt: I don't think that would break the connectivity. But that is just a feeling | 14:39 |
| zhxt | aportale: yeah, maybe something else I did it wrong and I don't know it. | 14:42 |
| aportale | yunta: Are/were you working on the SDK management tool? | 14:42 |
| yunta | yes | 14:42 |
| aportale | zhxt: Last try.. can you paste me the content of this file ~/.config/QtProject/mer-dev-tools/mer_vm.config | 14:43 |
| zhxt | aportale: okay, wait a moment. | 14:43 |
| aportale | yunta: I understood that you already perform stunts to workaround issues with the file links. Now on ntfs, there seem to be more of these issues. | 14:44 |
| yunta | no way... | 14:44 |
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| aportale | yunta: :D | 14:44 |
| yunta | lets take them on then | 14:45 |
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| yunta | what problems / are there bugs / who spotted them ? | 14:45 |
| zhxt | aportale: there is no dir named "mer-dev-tools" under ~/.config/QtProject | 14:46 |
| aportale | yunta: Broken or missing files / Build breaks / me | 14:46 |
| zhxt | is that wrong? | 14:46 |
| yunta | oh, so you are the brave soul that sacrificed itself for the good of mer (by installing windows) | 14:47 |
| yunta | what target did you use? did you try comparing target tarball content to installed tarball dir? | 14:47 |
| aportale | zhxt: Yes something went wrong. But your settings look OK to me. I unfortunately need to pass on this one for today. I would ask aurindam (who is not online right now) to get back to You to nail down the issue. Is that OKO? | 14:48 |
| zhxt | Yes, exactly. | 14:48 |
| zhxt | Thank your very much, aportale. | 14:49 |
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| zhxt | yunta: me? | 14:50 |
| yunta | zhxt: no, sorry, I missed prefix. I meant aportale | 14:50 |
| zhxt | yunta: okay. : ) | 14:51 |
| yunta | zhxt: but it seems you also have some problem with mer sdk vm? | 14:52 |
| aportale | yunta: Yes, I took that challenge :) I believe I used http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121111-184729/image.tar.bz2 When comparing the original tar and the unpacked content on ntfs, some files/dirs are missing and some are just 0-byters | 14:52 |
| aportale | zhxt: Thank You for your time aswell. These error reports are very useful. | 14:52 |
| yunta | aportale: can you share "df | grep /dev/root" output from your vm ? (hardlink workaround is really nasty....) | 14:55 |
| yunta | zhxt: can you connect to your vm with ssh? | 14:57 |
| zhxt | yunta: sorry for the delay. | 14:57 |
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| zhxt | yunta: yes, I can connected to VM via ssh. but not in qt-creator. | 14:58 |
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| yunta | zhxt: can you ssh to your virtual machine and run "netstat -l -n -p |grep 9292" there and paste the output here? | 15:00 |
| zhxt | yunta: okay, == | 15:01 |
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| zhxt | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:9292 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 148/ruby | 15:02 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-objcopy --add-gnu-debuglink=../usr/lib/debug/lib/libpthread-2.15.so.debug libpthread-2.15-dbg.so: ...-objcopy:stxNeDvO:: cannot create debug link section ...: Invalid operation | 15:04 |
| zhxt | yunta: is this right? | 15:05 |
| yunta | zhxt: did you try rebooting vm? | 15:05 |
| yunta | yes, it looks fine | 15:05 |
| yunta | in current version vm management app can hang if you network environment is unusual | 15:06 |
| zhxt | yes, I tried, but same as b4. | 15:06 |
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| zhxt | yunta: what does 'unusual' mean? | 15:08 |
| yunta | you mean you still can't see anything after clicking blue mer button? | 15:08 |
| yunta | in qtcreator | 15:08 |
| zhxt | yes, nothing. | 15:09 |
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| zhxt | just a gray window. | 15:10 |
| yunta | do you use network proxy? | 15:10 |
| zhxt | no. | 15:10 |
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| zhxt | yunta: do I have to change my host ip to fit VM? | 15:12 |
| yunta | zhxt: can you try doing "zypper ref; zypper up" in your vm ? | 15:12 |
| yunta | zhxt: no, if your ssh works - it means your ip settings are fine | 15:12 |
| zhxt | okay, | 15:13 |
| yunta | just tell me if the zypper stuff worked or reported any error | 15:13 |
| zhxt | worked. | 15:13 |
| yunta | damn.... | 15:13 |
| yunta | all seems fine :D | 15:13 |
| yunta | lets try different thing | 15:14 |
| zhxt | OKay. | 15:14 |
| yunta | open in your browser: http://localhost:8080/ | 15:14 |
| yunta | and tell me what it shows | 15:14 |
| zhxt | SDK control Center | 15:14 |
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| zhxt | Core repos point at version: 0.20121115.1 | 15:15 |
| yunta | ok, that is what you should see in qtcreator | 15:15 |
| aportale | zhxt, yunta: The fact that the web page does not appear in Qt Creator coould be anouther bug. zhxt, better use a browser and try http://127.0.0.1:8080 | 15:15 |
| yunta | aportale: yes, it seems so | 15:15 |
| aportale | yunta: lemme fix that, then. | 15:16 |
| yunta | great, because I have to leave now :) | 15:16 |
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| yunta | see ya later | 15:16 |
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| zhxt | aportale: same as what yunta tell me to do. | 15:16 |
| zhxt | told. :p | 15:17 |
| aportale | zhxt: Yes :) I was slow at typing and did not read | 15:17 |
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| zhxt | aportale, yunta: sorry for my English. | 15:17 |
| zhxt | then? | 15:18 |
| zhxt | yunta: thank you! | 15:19 |
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| aportale | zhxt: FYI I just pushed a fix to bring the SDK Control Center back into Creator. (But that won't hlep with the connection issues) | 15:26 |
| zhxt | aportale: So I can see that in qt-creator after update? | 15:27 |
| aportale | zhxt: Yes. | 15:28 |
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| zhxt | aportale: okay, have a try. | 15:29 |
| zhxt | aportale: yeah, I saw that. | 15:30 |
| zhxt | aportale: there is a upgrade button, do I need to upgrade? | 15:31 |
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| aportale | zhxt: Hmmm. I would ask the experts in this round. Last time I tried, some things did not work afterwards. | 15:32 |
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| zhxt | aportale: OKay, thanks. | 15:34 |
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| zhxt | I have to leave now, cause it's midnight here. I will be back tomorrow then. | 15:37 |
| aportale | zhxt: See you tomorrow :) | 15:37 |
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| zhxt | aportale: see you tomorrow and thanks again. also to yunta. | 15:38 |
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| sledges | could someone instruct me please how to successfully `objcopy --add-gnu-debuglink X.debug X` having OBS produced debuginfo and bin RPMs ? | 15:57 |
| sledges | lbt_, ^ | 15:57 |
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| sledges | if you see backlog, it says "cannot create debug link section" "Invalid operation" using Mer SDK cross binutils 2.22 | 15:58 |
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| lbt_ | morning aportale | 16:17 |
| lbt_ | sledges: can't look at that atm - can you log a bug? | 16:18 |
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| lbt_ | In US until friday and schedule is full - sry | 16:18 |
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| sledges | nice globetrotting lbt_ , I'll file a MER bug then, ta! | 16:23 |
| lbt_ | qt dev days - and a lot of interest in Mer :D | 16:24 |
| lbt_ | we *like* Qt people! | 16:24 |
| sledges | of course! that explains the silence :D mutual benefits, best of success in there! | 16:24 |
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| * sledges *likes* the idea of Mer gaining more traction than Yocto/OE in the end ;) coop on HA level would be welcomed though | 16:27 | |
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| CosmoHill | HA? | 16:39 |
| sledges | hardware adaptation | 16:39 |
| CosmoHill | thanks | 16:39 |
| sledges | np | 16:39 |
| sledges | ok, done and dusted with hope https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=645 | 16:41 |
| Merbot` | Mer bug 645 in meego-cross-armv7hl-sysroot "objcopy cannot attach debug info" [Normal,New] | 16:41 |
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| shmerl | What is a normal way of entering the SDK. Should one always call mer-sdk-chroot mount (after the reboot)? | 22:50 |
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| shmerl | When I do it, I always get this: | 22:50 |
| shmerl | This SDK ( /srv/mer/sdks/sdk ) is already mounted. If you are sure this is not an error and /proc/self/mounts has no mountpoints under it then remove /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/.sdkoptions and try again. | 22:50 |
| shmerl | So I always need to remove /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/.sdkoptions | 22:51 |
| Stskeeps | i usually unmount and remount and think of lbt | 22:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:52 |
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| shmerl | So it needs some polishing. | 22:53 |
| shmerl | I.e. it should detect that it's really not mounted, and remount without complaining. | 22:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 22:54 |
| Stskeeps | i think it might in an upgrade | 22:54 |
| shmerl | By the way, what is currently the community OBS - https://build.pub.meego.com or https://build.merproject.org ? | 23:05 |
| shmerl | This page mentions meego.com OBS: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_Community_OBS | 23:06 |
| shmerl | So what is the other one? | 23:06 |
| Stskeeps | build.pub.meego.com | 23:08 |
| Stskeeps | build.merproject.org is in progress | 23:08 |
| shmerl | Ah, OK. | 23:08 |
| shmerl | I think Zephyr page referenced build.merproject.org | 23:09 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 23:10 |
| shmerl | I'll ask lbt for registering on the meego.com one then. | 23:10 |
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