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| sonach | chriadam: hey:) where are you? it seems that it is 10:20 for you, | 00:21 |
| chriadam | Brisbane | 00:21 |
| chriadam | Australia | 00:22 |
| sonach | hehe, far from here :P | 00:22 |
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| chriadam | sonach: are you Europe? or? | 00:24 |
| sonach | no. Beijing, china, | 00:24 |
| chriadam | ah :-) | 00:25 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:27 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: good work on hawaii | 05:29 |
| vgrade | shows promise | 05:30 |
| vgrade | had to add the following to get it to build, git, cmake 2.8.9, sudo. pam-devel,glib2 | 05:31 |
| vgrade | showed up an issue with our Qt I think | 05:31 |
| vgrade | one of the private headers was looking for "qtplatform.h". That is provided in the mkspec/linux-g++ dir but its not on the include path | 05:33 |
| vgrade | private Qt header that is | 05:34 |
| vgrade | Bostik: commented | 05:34 |
| vgrade | probably easy to create a single package to build on OBS. multiple packages more work but both doable | 05:36 |
| Stskeeps | cmake 2.8.9 there's a patch waiting but i'm not sure i like the packaging | 05:45 |
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| henrik__ | morning | 06:04 |
| chriadam | good morning | 06:04 |
| henrik__ | lbt: tar version in vm does not have option --hard-dereference | 06:04 |
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| Stskeeps | tar gplv3 really causes a lot of bizarre issues at times :) | 06:08 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps, ? | 06:09 |
| rcg | morning btw :) | 06:09 |
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| Stskeeps | missing option, due to the fact our tar is non-gplv3 version | 06:09 |
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| rcg | ouch, bizarre indeed | 06:10 |
| rcg | btw, while you are here, do you happen to know how to enter arrow key via the virtual keyboard? | 06:10 |
| rcg | *keys | 06:10 |
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| Stskeeps | not offhand no | 06:13 |
| rcg | right, just checking ;) | 06:13 |
| jussi | good morning all | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | morn jussi | 06:15 |
| rcg | morning jussi | 06:15 |
| jussi | it actually is a good morning :) | 06:17 |
| rcg | it is :) | 06:18 |
| rcg | am just pretty lazy that early ;) | 06:19 |
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| Bostik | vgrade: oh, you're right indeed - QTDIR is not really necessary any longer; I hadn't noticed that | 06:36 |
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| chriadam | mardy: ping | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn plfiorini | 07:21 |
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| chriadam | mardy: I'm about to head home unfortunately, but I was just taking a look at your blog about accounts&sso (http://blog.mardy.it/2011/08/meego-accounts-single-sign-on-project.html) - was wondering if there was other documentation available somewhere, about how to add providers or obtain data and whatnot? | 07:37 |
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| henrik__ | auri__: hi | 07:43 |
| auri__ | henrik__: any luck? | 07:43 |
| auri__ | hi! | 07:43 |
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| situ | Morning all | 07:44 |
| henrik__ | auri__: a bit | 07:46 |
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| henrik__ | if i extract rootfs (with hard links in it) on host and re-tar it with --hard-dereference | 07:47 |
| auri__ | ah! nice workaround | 07:47 |
| henrik__ | then it can be extracted in vm without problems | 07:48 |
| auri__ | were you able to run sb2 commands ? | 07:48 |
| auri__ | with the target? | 07:48 |
| henrik__ | there still is "tar: ./dev/null: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted" | 07:48 |
| auri__ | hmm .. permission issues? | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | don't bother with dev/* | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | not needed for sb2 anyhow | 07:48 |
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| henrik__ | Stskeeps: good to know | 07:49 |
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| henrik__ | auri__: do you mean for example "sb2 -t nemo-n950 -m sdk-install -R zypper ref" | 07:55 |
| auri__ | yes | 07:56 |
| henrik__ | auri__: nope. it give me: error: db4 error(22) from dbenv->open: Invalid argument | 07:56 |
| auri__ | same here | 07:56 |
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| Stskeeps | did you follow the step about rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__* stuff? | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | and rebuilddb? | 07:57 |
| henrik__ | Stskeeps: nope. where was those steps? | 07:58 |
| henrik__ | Stskeeps: oh. found it | 07:59 |
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| henrik__ | Stskeeps: didn't work | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | hmmmm | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | show me the steps you did/ | 08:09 |
| henrik__ | 1) extract to nemo.bz2 to /srv/mer/targets/n950rootfs 2) in the dir: "sb2-init -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / nemo-n950 /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc" | 08:10 |
| henrik__ | 3) rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/_* 4) sb2 -t mer-core -m sdk-install -R rpm --rebuilddb | 08:11 |
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| Stskeeps | 3) .. don't you mean /srv/mer/targets/n950rootfs/var/lib/rpm/_* ? | 08:12 |
| henrik__ | oh crap | 08:12 |
| henrik__ | oh. and 4) -t was actually nemo-950 | 08:12 |
| henrik__ | Stskeeps: well even deleting from the right place didn't work | 08:14 |
| henrik__ | error: db4 error(22) from dbenv->open: Invalid argument | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | this may apply for whatever insane reason.. | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | cd /srv/mer/targets/n950rootfs | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | do the rm -rf thing | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | and then the rebuilddb | 08:14 |
| henrik__ | like this: sb2 -t nemo-n950 -R rpm --rebuilddb | 08:16 |
| henrik__ | same problem | 08:16 |
| henrik__ | error: db4 error(22) from dbenv->open: Invalid argument | 08:16 |
| henrik__ | error: cannot open Packages index using db4 - Invalid argument (22) | 08:16 |
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| Stskeeps | hrrmmm | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | what if you cd / ? | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | oh, right | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | sb2 -t nemo-n950 -m sdk-install -R rpm --rebuilddb | 08:17 |
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| henrik__ | Stskeeps: same problem. btw, user is mersdk. no sudo stuff is needed, right? | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | wth... :P | 08:19 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, walk me through what you do and i'll do exact same in my sdk | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | url to bz2 and all | 08:19 |
| henrik__ | url: http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120920.1.NEMO.2012-10-07.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20120920.1.NEMO.2012-10-07.1.tar.bz2 | 08:20 |
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| henrik__ | extract that in host and re-tar with --hard-dereference | 08:20 |
| henrik__ | then inside vm targets: mkdir n950rootfs; cd n950rootfs; tar xjvf nemo-deref.bz2 | 08:21 |
| henrik__ | then sb2-init (in the n950rootfs): sb2-init -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / nemo-n950 /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | i'll do url to bz2, srv/mer/targets/n950, sb2-init, rpm -rf, sb2 rebuiddb, and test with zypper ref just to take a shortcut to validate that scenario | 08:22 |
| henrik__ | sure | 08:23 |
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| vgrade_ | plfiorini: morning | 08:43 |
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| lbt | morning all | 09:02 |
| henrik__ | morning | 09:02 |
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| lbt | auri__: o/ | 09:04 |
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| lbt | henrik__: I thing you can untar with --hard-dereference | 09:07 |
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| lbt | auri__: henrik__ any blockers from me at the moment? Have you untarred my nemo rootfs and used it yet? (I haven't had time yet!) | 09:30 |
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| Stskeeps | henrik__: you're right, something is looking broken | 09:35 |
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| henrik__ | lbt: this doesn't work "sb2 -t nemo-n950 -m sdk-install -R zypper ref" | 09:39 |
| henrik__ | gives error: db4 error(22) from dbenv->open: Invalid argument | 09:40 |
| lbt | henrik__: OK - and Stskeeps are you looking at that? | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i will have to vanish rest of day but peek at sb2 -d | 09:42 |
| lbt | OK | 09:42 |
| lbt | henrik__: we can probably skip the zypper part anyhow | 09:43 |
| lbt | I made a ks with qt-devel in iti | 09:43 |
| lbt | did you use that? | 09:43 |
| lbt | http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121023-152417/ | 09:43 |
| henrik__ | lbt: no, but i'll check | 09:45 |
| henrik__ | lbt: ah. that has hardlinks in place as well. need to re-tar with --hard-dereference | 09:47 |
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| lbt | did you untar with --hard-dereference ? | 09:47 |
| henrik__ | lbt: doesn't work like that. it should be used when creating a tarball | 09:48 |
| henrik__ | plus mer tar is gplv2, and it doesn't even have this option :( | 09:48 |
| lbt | ok - so untar it on the host? | 09:50 |
| henrik__ | yes. and tar again with --hard-dereference -cvjf. then it works in vm | 09:52 |
| lbt | I'm pretty sure it would work on unpack | 09:54 |
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| henrik__ | lbt: i actually compiled latest tar and tried that but didn't work | 09:56 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I'd like to run a mer snapshot without updating -next ... CI is quiet atm | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: if you can hold your horses you might get a prerelease | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | or what is it related to? | 10:02 |
| lbt | trying a mechanism for vendor updates | 10:03 |
| lbt | ie we try to do more non -next snapshots | 10:03 |
| auri__ | henrik__: any luck with the latest image? | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: okay | 10:03 |
| henrik__ | i have the same problem with that one as well | 10:03 |
| lbt | possibly 'rolling' so they don't use any more disk | 10:04 |
| auri__ | lbt: can we try some other approach? | 10:04 |
| lbt | I'll do that then - it's an intermediate before something in the process | 10:04 |
| lbt | auri__: did you download the ,ks from http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121023-152417/ ? | 10:05 |
| lbt | sorry, tarball | 10:05 |
| auri__ | nope.. not the latest one.. henrik__ said he had the same problem with that one too | 10:05 |
| lbt | ok - you do realise that shared folders are shared - so you can unpack on either the host or the VM? | 10:06 |
| lbt | if the VM fails then use the host | 10:06 |
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| lbt | if tar fails on the host then sure, we have a problem :) | 10:06 |
| auri__ | ok I missed that out.. so the latest has qt-devel | 10:07 |
| lbt | yes | 10:07 |
| auri__ | and i wouldnt need to run zypper | 10:07 |
| lbt | so no zypper messing about | 10:07 |
| lbt | *g* ... yep | 10:07 |
| auri__ | hmm the problemm was not with untarring rather with sb2 and zypper | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | you only need to set up sb2 target, no need to run zypper, for now | 10:08 |
| Bostik | -sigh- time to look into gold linker, I fear | 10:10 |
| Bostik | this rabbit hole goes depp | 10:10 |
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| henrik__ | lbt: "sb2-init -d -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / qt-test /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc" looks ok? | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:13 |
| lbt | qt-test will be the name for SB2_TARGET | 10:13 |
| henrik__ | lbt: yes | 10:13 |
| henrik__ | and no need to do anythin else after that? | 10:14 |
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| lbt | what is cwd | 10:14 |
| henrik__ | it is /srv/mer/targets/qt/ | 10:15 |
| henrik__ | do they need to match? | 10:15 |
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| lbt | it would be helpful if they did | 10:15 |
| lbt | I think the scripts may assume that at the moment | 10:15 |
| lbt | I'm using nemo_n9 | 10:16 |
| henrik__ | ok. in the wiki there is one example where it doesn't match. but i'll change and re-check | 10:16 |
| auri__ | lbt: henrik__: hallelujah! | 10:16 |
| lbt | auri__: excellent | 10:17 |
| henrik__ | auri__: worked? | 10:17 |
| auri__ | yep :) | 10:17 |
| auri__ | HelloWorld compiled and exec | 10:17 |
| niweber | :) | 10:17 |
| lbt | so we have a real Mer bug (sb2 zypper) and an issue with hardlinks that needs working around | 10:17 |
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| henrik__ | auri__: what were your steps? did you use the latest image? | 10:19 |
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| auri__ | thanks guys.. now, I should probably write down the steps somewhere.. just to find out deviations from the "ideal" case | 10:19 |
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| Bostik | ...no gold in our binutils, I see | 10:20 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: i think i can get that organized.. | 10:21 |
| Bostik | willing to try anything, I guess | 10:22 |
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| auri__ | a) untar the latest image (I did sudo untar) b) retar with --hard-dereference (again I used sudo) c) untar in /srv/mer/targets/nemo_xxx (with sudo) d) sudo chown -R $USER nemo_xxx (not reqd if you havent used sudo) e) In VM, cd /srv/mer/targets/nemo_xxx and exec sb2_init | 10:22 |
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| auri__ | f) Optional: sb2_config -d <the nemo target name used in sb2_init> (this sets it as default) g) compile helloworld with sb2 gcc and exec with sb2 (you have to pass -t <target>, since I set nemo as default, I did not pass this) | 10:24 |
| auri__ | henrik__: ^^ | 10:24 |
| RaYmAn | slightly offtopic, but in case someone wants a cheap Cortex A8 dev board with mali400: http://www.indiegogo.com/cubieboard | 10:25 |
| henrik__ | auri__: i think i did exactly that. need to look console history.. | 10:26 |
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| henrik__ | auri__: another hallelujah! | 10:28 |
| auri__ | great :) | 10:28 |
| henrik__ | i tried to compile in /tmp/ | 10:28 |
| henrik__ | works in ~ | 10:29 |
| auri__ | well i did it in ~ | 10:29 |
| henrik__ | should it work also in /tmp/ btw? | 10:29 |
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| kulve | Is this old news already: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221 "Open Source ARM userland" | 11:33 |
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| lbt | kulve: new to me - and rather interesting | 11:35 |
| kulve | indeed | 11:35 |
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| yunta | lbt: henrik__ : r u t? | 11:41 |
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| lbt | y | 11:42 |
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| henrik__ | yunta: here | 11:43 |
| yunta | lbt: henrik__: -> #mer-meeting | 11:43 |
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| yunta | back here :) | 11:45 |
| yunta | so, sdk, what more do we exactly need to get it working? | 11:45 |
| yunta | working sb2_manage script | 11:45 |
| yunta | http server with current things functioning + progress view | 11:45 |
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| yunta | official nemo images with dev packages ? | 11:46 |
| yunta | de-hardlinked-tarballs ? | 11:46 |
| yunta | some qtcreator support? | 11:46 |
| lbt | lets say hardlink solution | 11:46 |
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| lbt | auri__ is taking care of QtC side | 11:47 |
| yunta | are targets going to be installed in /home/mersdk ? | 11:47 |
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| lbt | no, see docs | 11:47 |
| lbt | /srv/mer/targets | 11:48 |
| henrik__ | yunta: /srv/mer/targets/ which is a shared folder | 11:48 |
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| lbt | I'm handling the VM and packaging some tools | 11:48 |
| yunta | uh, /targets | 11:48 |
| lbt | /srv/mer/targets | 11:48 |
| lbt | it's consistent with all other SDK docs | 11:48 |
| yunta | so, what about windows people? can we install targets in their broken-permission filesystem? | 11:48 |
| auri__ | require sysroot (if targets are installed on host then this is taken care of.. ofcourse need tosee how it works on Windows since qmake and make has tobe faked) | 11:48 |
| lbt | so windows needs a prefix-mapping solution for a few areas anyway | 11:49 |
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| auri__ | Also Users now will have to create projects in a shared folder .. | 11:50 |
| yunta | wouldn't it be easier to make people create another, bigger, vm drive for home dir and targets ? as default installation path | 11:50 |
| lbt | auri__: I think we can restate that | 11:50 |
| lbt | project folders must be shared | 11:51 |
| auri__ | ok .. fair enough | 11:51 |
| lbt | yunta: no redesign at this point please :) | 11:51 |
| yunta | ah, creator runs on host, forgot about it | 11:51 |
| yunta | lbt: nono, I'm just trying to understand :) | 11:51 |
| lbt | sure - at least not unless we hit a major blocker | 11:51 |
| auri__ | however QtC should know the settings too.. for running qmake in the correct path | 11:51 |
| lbt | *nod* | 11:52 |
| lbt | later I see the webapp API telling QtC things - or vice-versa | 11:52 |
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| lbt | I suspect we will should make the webapp the main config mgmt center | 11:53 |
| yunta | lbt: should your images be treated as official nemo's dev images? :) | 11:53 |
| lbt | since it's easier for vendors to extend than QtC | 11:53 |
| auri__ | ok for v1 I am assuming one folder (tree) .. if I have time I will put the other functionality | 11:53 |
| lbt | yunta: yes | 11:53 |
| lbt | yunta: eventually | 11:53 |
| lbt | auri__: yep - 1 folder tree == $HOME | 11:53 |
| yunta | cool, can we postprocess them to remove hardlinks ? (re-tar without hardlinks) | 11:53 |
| yunta | I mean, before publishing | 11:54 |
| lbt | yunta: yep - or other things | 11:54 |
| yunta | ok | 11:54 |
| yunta | can that be defined in ks? (out of curiosity) | 11:54 |
| lbt | no, needs work | 11:54 |
| auri__ | will the targets be installed as part of SDK will user install them separately? | 11:54 |
| lbt | not part of SDK | 11:55 |
| auri__ | will the targets be installed as part of SDK OR will user install them separately? | 11:55 |
| auri__ | ok | 11:55 |
| lbt | we may provide some complete tarball - but that's different | 11:55 |
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| auri__ | Is it reasonable to assume that it will be in /srv/mer/targets (always)? | 11:55 |
| lbt | yes (for now) | 11:56 |
| lbt | at some point much later we may have a target root config | 11:56 |
| yunta | so, sb_manage2, web interface + progress view, hardlink solution, qtcreator support | 11:57 |
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| yunta | how much work is there to be done in qtcreator? | 11:58 |
| lbt | progress view? | 11:58 |
| yunta | e.g. installation progress visible in web tool | 11:58 |
| yunta | so you know that something is happening | 11:58 |
| lbt | ok KISS | 11:58 |
| yunta | will try | 11:59 |
| henrik__ | maybe that is a bonus if we have time todo it | 11:59 |
| lbt | yeah | 11:59 |
| lbt | I'll have more time on this after today too | 11:59 |
| lbt | also ... repeated testing | 11:59 |
| yunta | tail + html refresh if we are lucky | 11:59 |
| lbt | w00t: png | 11:59 |
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| w00t | lbt: about to go lunch, but what's up | 11:59 |
| lbt | demos for SDK | 12:00 |
| lbt | ie pre-prepared sexy project | 12:00 |
| lbt | for Nemo | 12:00 |
| w00t | mmm | 12:00 |
| w00t | what exactly do you need? | 12:00 |
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| auri__ | yunta: got my SDK to build helloWorld today.. | 12:00 |
| lbt | pre-prepared sexy project | 12:00 |
| lbt | :) | 12:01 |
| w00t | showing what though? what does it need to do/demonstrate technically | 12:01 |
| auri__ | so now putting in all the hooks and lines in qtc | 12:01 |
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| yunta | auri__: sdk vm you mean? | 12:01 |
| auri__ | yes | 12:01 |
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| yunta | cool | 12:02 |
| yunta | did you have to modify that sdk in any way? | 12:02 |
| yunta | did you use lbt's target ? | 12:02 |
| lbt | w00t: using something from the Nemo components? | 12:02 |
| cat_x301 | seek some help for udev: mode is ignored while following rule is being exec'd: | 12:02 |
| cat_x301 | SUBSYSTEM=="ump", ACTION=="add", MODE="0664" | 12:02 |
| lbt | w00t: essentially a small Nemo app | 12:03 |
| lbt | yunta: auri__: henrik__: packaging too | 12:03 |
| yunta | packaging of what exactly? webapp, and? | 12:03 |
| lbt | yunta: no, a Nemo app | 12:03 |
| yunta | :) | 12:04 |
| auri__ | yunta: scroll up for steps .. i have listed them.. I used the latest image | 12:04 |
| lbt | QtC button "package this" | 12:04 |
| yunta | auri__: thx | 12:04 |
| * lbt goes to pin that nemo tarball so it doesn't expire | 12:04 | |
| henrik__ | yunta: it is the link i sent you | 12:04 |
| yunta | cool | 12:04 |
| lbt | eek IMG exploded | 12:05 |
| auri__ | ! | 12:05 |
| yunta | so, sb_manage2, web interface + progress view, hardlink solution, qtcreator support, example nemo app | 12:05 |
| yunta | progress view optional :) | 12:05 |
| lbt | auri__: bug in django app - don't panic :) | 12:05 |
| * auri__ phew | 12:06 | |
| lbt | also ... checking.... sb_manage2 is a simple bash app? | 12:06 |
| yunta | lbt: what about splash/wallpaper that mruk is supposed to draw? where do they show up? current sdk vm doesn't boot to x.... | 12:06 |
| lbt | yeah - I'm a bit sad about that | 12:06 |
| lbt | I may make it boot to X just to do that | 12:06 |
| lbt | but no SDL | 12:07 |
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| yunta | lol, what about just using plymouth and keep it on screen? | 12:07 |
| lbt | yeah-that's in there but the VM has some nice info | 12:08 |
| lbt | gentoo has a kernel patch for fbcons decoration | 12:08 |
| lbt | but ... that really is getting silly :) | 12:08 |
| yunta | permanent splash with current nice text info embedded | 12:09 |
| yunta | hm | 12:09 |
| lbt | yeah - I'd like something but leave it for now | 12:09 |
| yunta | ok | 12:09 |
| lbt | webui should be blue-er and have mer logo | 12:09 |
| henrik__ | lbt: should it be close to mer logo blue? | 12:10 |
| lbt | focus is currently on operational | 12:10 |
| lbt | henrik__: makes sense | 12:10 |
| yunta | I think I can force mruk to blue-ize it in a better way than it's done currently | 12:10 |
| henrik__ | ok. i did pick the color from that already. i'll use that. but maybe some designer can give some verdict | 12:10 |
| henrik__ | yunta: if she can do that, it would be nice. i don't have an eye for that at all | 12:11 |
| yunta | henrik__: just publish it on bitbucket and give her access, I think you have her email (non-jolla one) | 12:12 |
| henrik__ | yunta: i'll do that | 12:12 |
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| lbt | would it help if we had one or more bugs on mer bz to track this work? | 12:13 |
| lbt | yunta's idea :) | 12:13 |
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| lbt | auri__: for you in particular as you're new around here? | 12:13 |
| lbt | I'm thinking a high level bug and then maybe a QtC one and some tasks | 12:14 |
| lbt | then QtC tasks could block on things like packaging template etc | 12:14 |
| auri__ | \me runs away from red tape | 12:14 |
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| lbt | *g* - think of it as a collaborative todo list | 12:15 |
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| yunta | *g* - think of it as gratification mechanism - it's nice to close task-bug when you complete it | 12:15 |
| lbt | yunta: I'm happy for us to do that and try it on the VM/SDK side | 12:16 |
| lbt | auri__ you can keep an eye on it and if you think it's helpful then try it too | 12:17 |
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| situ | Anyone else facing problems with http://build.ci.merproject.org/ ? | 12:19 |
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| auri__ | lbt: quick ques.. in /srv/mer/targets/<target_name> is same as <target_name> passed in sb2_init? Is that mandatory or can a custom name be set? | 12:22 |
| lbt | situ: explain | 12:22 |
| lbt | auri__: it's not mandatory but I'd like to make them the same for us | 12:22 |
| lbt | otherwise we need user to manage 2 values for no sane reason | 12:23 |
| auri__ | I wud prefer that especially as user can download and init target w/o QtC knowing about it | 12:23 |
| lbt | you'd prefer them to be equivalent ? | 12:24 |
| auri__ | i wud then assume <folder_name> = <target_name> and exec sb2 -t <folder_name> | 12:24 |
| auri__ | yes | 12:24 |
| * sledges is trying to put MeeGo 1.2 on Celeron (Mendocino) 433 MHz 393MB RAM :)) with no DVD drive (only a CD one), using Plop boot manager and bootable USB stick :) halts after ISOLINUX, argh :) | 12:24 | |
| lbt | yes | 12:24 |
| lbt | sledges: tried #meego? | 12:25 |
| * lbt ducks and runs :) | 12:25 | |
| sledges | :D I thought you'll suggest me to try #mer ;) but anyhow, I after resurrecting that year2000 laptop :? | 12:26 |
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| lbt | auri__: OK - have you pushed any hack branches btw? | 12:28 |
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| vgrade_ | kulve: very interesting. First EGL,GLES userland source I've seen | 12:28 |
| lbt | I'd like to track/test as you go | 12:28 |
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| lbt | vgrade_: grab it quick! | 12:28 |
| auri__ | not yet.. by EOD | 12:28 |
| vgrade_ | kulve: cudos to broadcom and rasppi foundation | 12:28 |
| lbt | auri__: OK - and we'll treat it as hack stuff too | 12:29 |
| vgrade_ | lbt, you think its a mistake? | 12:29 |
| lbt | I cloned to a personal repo too - I may even push something one day! | 12:29 |
| auri__ | did you get the mail from gitorious? | 12:29 |
| lbt | vgrade_: no, but then the lawyers spot it and ... | 12:29 |
| lbt | auri__: yes - ty | 12:29 |
| lbt | I need to be *very* comfortable before using that though | 12:30 |
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| kulve | vgrade_: yeah, very nice news in an area that used to be really tightly closed | 12:30 |
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| * sledges not giving up, rebooting :) | 12:31 | |
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| lbt | sledges: OK | 12:31 |
| vgrade_ | kulve: does this help with the video effort on the Pi | 12:32 |
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| pq | has anyone actually read the rpi userland sources, looking at how one EGL call is implemented, or something? | 12:33 |
| kulve | vgrade_: not really, I think | 12:33 |
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| RaYmAn | some people are claiming it's really rather meaningless sources because of the way it's implemented ("kernel" on videocore - drivers just communicate by message passing to it - so the source is really just a message passing wrapper for opengl etc) | 12:35 |
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| pq | RaYmAn, indeed. | 12:36 |
| pq | guess I should also mention, that I have a Weston rpi backend brewing :-) | 12:36 |
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| pq | the release is a nice start, anyway | 12:38 |
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| sledges | meego installation is running hey hey hey! :) (sorry for offtopicing :)) | 13:07 |
| sledges | arrrgh kernel panic.. :D | 13:07 |
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| lbt | sledges: give up already | 13:50 |
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| lbt | it'll be a world of mer-based smart connected devices :D | 13:51 |
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| sledges | better than the dolphin :D couldn't find a better full-fledged linux to run on old laptops :) than good old dead MeeGo :) | 13:52 |
| sledges | any other "lightweight linux distro" just seemed not fitting the bill in different respects | 13:53 |
| sledges | but mostly - unappealing UX :) | 13:53 |
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| zuh | pq: Yeah, from what I've managed to dig from the sources, it seems to just generate calls to the VC through the kernel "driver". Not 100% sure of the flow yet though, it's kind of hard to follow... | 14:11 |
| zuh | # if defined(__SYMBIAN32__) | 14:13 |
| zuh | Scary :) | 14:13 |
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| lbt | auri__: henrik__ yunta we need to add username to targets as per (new) instructions in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Target_Preparation | 14:44 |
| lbt | this will support rpmbuild | 14:44 |
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| jpwhiting | lbt: is it a known bug that the qtsensors examples in qt-mobility-examples don't work on the exopc? | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes, the accelerometer driver is shot | 15:18 |
| jpwhiting | ah ugh :( | 15:18 |
| lbt | we're doing a kernel update which I think fixes it | 15:18 |
| jpwhiting | lbt: ah, if it does, would you let me know? or even let me know when the update is packaged and I can test it here | 15:19 |
| lbt | can you build your own images? | 15:19 |
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| lbt | as I think the kernel doesn't upgrade | 15:20 |
| lbt | but there's a package phaeron did | 15:20 |
| jpwhiting | it doesn't? hmm, how come? | 15:20 |
| lbt | silly bug | 15:20 |
| jpwhiting | ah :( | 15:20 |
| jpwhiting | I haven't built my own images before no, but I could learn I guess | 15:20 |
| lbt | patches welcome if you want to play | 15:20 |
| phaeron | hmm ? | 15:21 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=home%3Aiamer%3AMer%3ASDK ? | 15:21 |
| phaeron | ah 3.6 kernel for i686 | 15:22 |
| lbt | yeah - does it support expoc ? | 15:22 |
| phaeron | if you install it , you may need to fiddle with bootloader and run depmod after it boots | 15:22 |
| lbt | and does it provide kernel-devel for building external modules? | 15:22 |
| phaeron | lbt: it's a copy of your adaptation spec | 15:22 |
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| phaeron | and I have it on my expoc yes | 15:23 |
| lbt | ok | 15:23 |
| notmart | jpwhiting: is easy, btw, they will probably come to: http://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/wetab-exopc/tablet/mer/devel/weekly/ | 15:23 |
| phaeron | which is carsten's anyway | 15:23 |
| lbt | so should you SR it | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | thank you for the correction, i forgot i had one :P | 15:23 |
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| jpwhiting | notmart: the weekly image will have the new kernel soon? is that what you mean? | 15:23 |
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| notmart | jpwhiting: when the kernel hits the adaptation repo, the monday after an image with it should land there | 15:24 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: didn't do much with it :( | 15:24 |
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| phaeron | lbt: when I have time to fix the issues I mentioned above. because if user doesn't know how to fix it upgrade will just brick the device | 15:25 |
| phaeron | (which are not specific to this package , x86 kernel upgrade is broken in mer/nemo) | 15:25 |
| lbt | OK - can you link the virtualbox there to trial it | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | didn't we get the kernel upgrade fixed or was i hallucinating at that point? | 15:26 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: did we ? https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179 | 15:27 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 179 in x86-generic "Device doesn't boot after kernel update" [Normal,New] | 15:27 |
| lbt | phaeron: I mean : osc linkpac CE:Adaptation:x86-generic virtualbox home:iamer:MerSDK | 15:28 |
| phaeron | lbt: what would that do ? | 15:28 |
| phaeron | I mean why ? | 15:28 |
| lbt | build modules for shared folders | 15:28 |
| phaeron | ah , ok let's try that | 15:28 |
| lbt | out of tree modules support is untried for my spec I think | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so we are we at with SDK by now? | 15:29 |
| lbt | it works :) | 15:29 |
| lbt | as in pressing the green button makes an ARM binary | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | good | 15:30 |
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| lbt | minor issue is hardlink support in shared folders | 15:30 |
| phaeron | lbt: linked | 15:30 |
| lbt | :) | 15:30 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: annoying but :/ | 15:30 |
| lbt | we can fix in many, many ways | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | screw hardlinks, :P | 15:31 |
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| lbt | other than that - we need to add the scripts to the QtC build for linux | 15:31 |
| lbt | hmm, I should do that and MR it | 15:31 |
| lbt | I need to review the SDK packaging and maybe do a 7.1.0 release | 15:32 |
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| lbt | I'm using VBoxManage to make vdi files atm - I don't think that's an issue but | 15:32 |
| lbt | phaeron: ah, you need to link kbuild too (or build against CE:adaptaiton) | 15:33 |
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| phaeron | lbt: linked kbuild, vbox building | 15:38 |
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| phaeron | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=virtualbox&project=home%3Aiamer%3AMer%3ASDK&repository=Mer_Core_i586 | 15:39 |
| phaeron | lbt: want maintainership there ? | 15:40 |
| crevetor | Hello ! | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | lo crevetor | 15:42 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: hi | 15:42 |
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| lbt | sure - ty | 15:44 |
| lbt | phaeron: yeah - my packaging sucks | 15:45 |
| lbt | KERN_DIR='/usr/src/kernels/3.*-adaptation-pc' | 15:46 |
| jpwhiting | Stskeeps: so the new kernel that fixes the exopc accelerometer is in the new image (or next weeks image) or no? | 15:46 |
| phaeron | lbt: made you maintainer there | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | not yet | 15:46 |
| jpwhiting | ok | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | also, not sure about PA | 15:46 |
| phaeron | jpwhiting: not unless we fix the bootloader issue | 15:46 |
| jpwhiting | pulse audio? | 15:46 |
| jpwhiting | phaeron: ah, what is the bootloader issue? | 15:46 |
| jpwhiting | got a bug somewhere? | 15:46 |
| phaeron | I just linked it up there :D | 15:47 |
| phaeron | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179 | 15:47 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 179 in x86-generic "Device doesn't boot after kernel update" [Normal,New] | 15:47 |
| phaeron | read my last comment there | 15:47 |
| phaeron | this one is for the upgrade https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427 | 15:47 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 427 in x86-generic "functional exopc orientation (& other stuff) requires kernel update or patching" [Normal,New] | 15:47 |
| jpwhiting | ah, I think I may have hit that last week, it gets to a point where it seems to be starting x over and over, but never does | 15:48 |
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| phaeron | I guess adding a proper depmod with version to the %post would fix 427 | 15:50 |
| phaeron | 179 is a bit more involved | 15:50 |
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| jpwhiting | ah, I see, probably needs grubby patch then? | 15:52 |
| jpwhiting | phaeron: fixing 427 would make using kernel 3.6 on exopc work? but requires a fresh image since 179 is needed for upgrading kernel to work? | 15:53 |
| phaeron | yes | 15:53 |
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| nemo | ... | 15:55 |
| nemo | why is merbot pinging me | 15:55 |
| nemo | oh | 15:55 |
| * nemo sighs | 15:55 | |
| jpwhiting | time for a better nick? :p | 15:55 |
| cat_x301 | e.g. mer? ;) | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | or "obs" | 15:56 |
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| jpwhiting | phaeron: depmod with version means adding %post depmod -a before the %files section? | 15:58 |
| phaeron | depmod <kernel version> | 15:59 |
| jpwhiting | ah, ok | 15:59 |
| phaeron | where kernel version is the version part of the directory it gets installed to | 16:00 |
| phaeron | by default it uses current running kernel version, which is useless | 16:00 |
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| jpwhiting | but since upgrade doesn't work I need to patch the spec, build it, create an image from that and run that image? | 16:00 |
| jpwhiting | yep, gotcha | 16:00 |
| phaeron | jpwhiting: well upgrade works if you fix it before rebooting | 16:00 |
| jpwhiting | ah, ok | 16:01 |
| phaeron | (both depmod and bootloader) | 16:02 |
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| jpwhiting | well, depmod should be fixed in the .spec file, right? | 16:07 |
| jpwhiting | phaeron: I want depmod kernel_version or kernel_version_build ? | 16:08 |
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| phaeron | I think it gets installed to _build , lbt ? | 16:09 |
| phaeron | I don't have the exopc handy right now | 16:09 |
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| lbt | me neither | 16:10 |
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| kallecarl | Stskeeps: talking with the Qt Developer Days U.S. organizers | 16:41 |
| kallecarl | they have a proposal from Carol Chen | 16:42 |
| kallecarl | are you coordinating with Jolla for a Mer talk proposal or doing it independently? | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | kallecarl: i won't be able to attend sadly | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | kallecarl: it turns out i have a seperate appointment for same time period, so | 16:43 |
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| kallecarl | okay | 16:43 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: I will work with you on the presentation already accepted | 16:43 |
| jpwhiting | lbt: ok, I have a new kernel built with depmod kernel_version added to %post, any idea what I need to do to fix the upgrade problem locally so I can reboot into this new kernel? | 16:44 |
| jpwhiting | notmart: or you :) | 16:44 |
| lbt | jpwhiting: I've not hit the problem myself so no | 16:46 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: is there a Mer communication channel where people can be asked to attend QtDevDays or present? | 16:46 |
| lbt | mailing list | 16:46 |
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| lbt | jpwhiting: is it 179 ? | 16:47 |
| jpwhiting | lbt: ok, thanks | 16:47 |
| jpwhiting | yes | 16:47 |
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| lbt | if so then /boot/extlinux config ? | 16:47 |
| jpwhiting | ah, right | 16:47 |
| * jpwhiting tries that | 16:47 | |
| lbt | the last comment by islam | 16:47 |
| jpwhiting | the second "suggestion" yep | 16:47 |
| lbt | kallecarl: what scope? | 16:48 |
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| lbt | I'm thinking that we're putting together a QtCreator / Mer Platform SDK | 16:48 |
| lbt | and I may be able to present on that - assuming Mer is an interesting target | 16:49 |
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| Stskeeps | kallecarl: mer-general@ is usually OK | 16:53 |
| jpwhiting | no luck, | 16:53 |
| jpwhiting | it starts, and then blinks "Starting Meego..." on the bottom of the screen repeatedly | 16:53 |
| kallecarl | lbt: Stskeeps: mailing list works | 16:54 |
| jpwhiting | meh | 16:54 |
| kallecarl | i'll do that | 16:54 |
| lbt | jpwhiting: ctrl or shift key ? | 16:54 |
| kallecarl | lbt: scope Qt Developer Days U.S. http://www.qtdeveloperdays.com/ | 16:54 |
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| kallecarl | for Mer, this could be anything you want that serves Mer and ties in somehow to Qt | 16:55 |
| lbt | OK - I could do a proposal on Mer and targetting it via QtC - Jolla will have done Slush by then too | 16:56 |
| situ | Stskeeps: Are you going to speak at Slush ? | 16:56 |
| jpwhiting | lbt: that lets me edit the boot line, but nothing seems to be able to get it to boot | 16:59 |
| jpwhiting | there's not a way with grubby to see what's on the boot device, is there? | 16:59 |
| jpwhiting | even ls would help :) | 16:59 |
| kallecarl | lbt: hello...pleasure to "meet" you | 16:59 |
| lbt | kallecarl: :) | 16:59 |
| lbt | jpwhiting: and I'm guessing you don't have the ssh console with the ls you did of the /boot before you rebooted? | 17:00 |
| lbt | *g* ... next time eh? | 17:00 |
| lbt | you booting from usb jpwhiting? | 17:01 |
| jpwhiting | lbt: no I did it on the device with a konsole, no ssh session :( | 17:01 |
| jpwhiting | no, from the hd | 17:01 |
| jpwhiting | root is /dev/sda2 | 17:01 |
| jpwhiting | boot had vmlinuz-3.6.1 in it | 17:01 |
| lbt | boot from usb installer and try a rescue ? | 17:01 |
| jpwhiting | which this grubby line is supposed to boot with | 17:01 |
| jpwhiting | ah, yeah, that would probably help :) | 17:02 |
| lbt | should at least get a look at /boot on the hdd | 17:02 |
| jpwhiting | yep | 17:02 |
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| jpwhiting | lbt: ok, root is /dev/sda2 | 17:08 |
| jpwhiting | boot is /dev/sda1 | 17:08 |
| lbt | :) | 17:08 |
| jpwhiting | extlinux.conf is pointing the kernel at boot/vmlinuz-3.6.1 | 17:08 |
| jpwhiting | /dev/sda1 has config-3.6.1 System.map System.map-3.6.1 vmlinuz vmlinuz-3.6.1 and extlinux folder | 17:09 |
| jpwhiting | but I only upgraded the kernel package from my branch repository, not anything else from Mer:SDK itself | 17:09 |
| jpwhiting | do I need other kernel related packages from that? | 17:10 |
| CosmoHill | why phones do you guys recommend for talking, texting and taking pics? | 17:10 |
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| jpwhiting | lbt: booting now, I had symlinked to /boot instead of ../ from /boot/extlinux | 17:22 |
| jpwhiting | will see if the sensors work now | 17:22 |
| lbt | great | 17:22 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: N9 | 17:22 |
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| CosmoHill | that's going to cost more than £free isn't it? | 17:26 |
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| jpwhiting | CosmoHill: of course | 17:27 |
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| jpwhiting | CosmoHill: you never said it had to be free... :) | 17:27 |
| CosmoHill | true | 17:28 |
| jpwhiting | notmart: lbt: ok with this kernel the sensors seem to be there, but they all read zero, and orientation is unknown | 17:28 |
| CosmoHill | last phone that was bought for me was a k750i, the k800i, nokia crapscreen and W995 are all dad's ex contracts | 17:28 |
| jpwhiting | and the cursor is bouncing around a lot also :*) | 17:28 |
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| lbt | :/ | 17:33 |
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| jpwhiting | lbt: then after adding the 92-pegatron-accel.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d the cursor no longer jumps, but the accel readings are all still zero :( | 17:46 |
| lbt | we need to check how the kernel is / needs to be configured for the exo sensors | 17:48 |
| phaeron_n9 | at least that new kernel works, sensorfw or similar needs config | 17:49 |
| jpwhiting | yeah, probably | 17:50 |
| jpwhiting | the sensor seems to work, since it was making the cursor jump around before I set x to ignore it | 17:50 |
| phaeron_n9 | it does have a config for exopc but i bet it needs updating | 17:50 |
| phaeron_n9 | jpwhiting, yes | 17:51 |
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| jpwhiting | phaeron_n9: why would the sensorfw config need to be changed? | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | device names maybe | 18:01 |
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| jpwhiting | the names change in different releases of the driver? | 18:02 |
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| phaeron_n9 | the driver was merged upstream much later than it was in meego | 18:03 |
| phaeron_n9 | it could have been rewritten and events arw now different | 18:03 |
| jpwhiting | ah, I see | 18:05 |
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| vgrade | evening all | 18:09 |
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| Stskeeps | evening vgrade | 18:09 |
| kallecarl | w00t: are you still planning to make a presentation about QML at Qt Developer Days in Santa Clara? | 18:11 |
| w00t | kallecarl: yes, will get things together and send it off asap | 18:12 |
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| kallecarl | w00t: I got a message from the organizers asking about an abstract | 18:13 |
| kallecarl | I'm organizing the conference for KDE & Friends | 18:14 |
| kallecarl | well not the conference but the participation | 18:14 |
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| CosmoHill | £350 for a Nokia N9, sod that | 18:16 |
| CosmoHill | also, hi w00t and vgrade | 18:16 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill: \o | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: smartphones cost :P | 18:17 |
| CosmoHill | this is why I look at dumb phones | 18:17 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: were you working with Carol Chen at Jolla to set up your presentation? If so, is that presentation now cancelled or will someone else from Jolla be doing it? | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | kallecarl: i think mine came up as a possibility but an actual abstract was never submitted | 18:21 |
| kallecarl | okay | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | good evening plfiorini :) | 19:27 |
| plfiorini | hello Stskeeps :) | 19:27 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdssk3358?DCMP=dsp-arm-starterkit-120725-eu&HQS=dsp-arm-starterkit-pr-sw-eu#0 | 19:44 | |
| jpwhiting | w00t: ping | 19:44 |
| * w00t eyes jpwhiting >_> | 19:45 | |
| w00t | what did I do :P | 19:45 |
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| * CosmoHill eyes w00t eyeing jpwhiting | 19:45 | |
| CosmoHill | w00t: i didn't think he was your type | 19:45 |
| jpwhiting | hey, in an effort to solve https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427 I've got lbt's 3.6.1 kernel installed on this exopc and have the xorg conf set to ignore the Pegatron accelerometer | 19:45 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 427 in x86-generic "functional exopc orientation (& other stuff) requires kernel update or patching" [Normal,New] | 19:45 |
| jpwhiting | any idea what I need to do to get the right configuration for sensord so QSensors will work again? | 19:46 |
| jpwhiting | it's currently "working" but giving zeros for everything | 19:46 |
| jpwhiting | which is less than useful obviously :) | 19:46 |
| w00t | no, I haven't had a chance to look, unfortunately - I do know where the code for the pegatron accelerometer driver is, though, maybe that'll point you in the right direction | 19:47 |
| w00t | one moment | 19:47 |
| jpwhiting | CosmoHill: w00t and I go way back... :p | 19:47 |
| CosmoHill | fwb? :p | 19:47 |
| jpwhiting | yeah, that would be helpful probably | 19:47 |
| w00t | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/sensorfw.git;a=blob;f=sensorfw-0.7.1-pegatron-accel.patch;h=7e1f61094d082ffd8e241b60cc1ec9fdf63a9d4e;hb=HEAD | 19:47 |
| jpwhiting | thx | 19:47 |
| jpwhiting | ah, that's the original adding of pegatron to sensorfw | 19:48 |
| jpwhiting | which may be what the problem is | 19:48 |
| * jpwhiting reviews the sensord log to see if anything pops out | 19:48 | |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: nice Ti package | 19:54 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: though not in the market for any new hardware... well if anyone has a Tegra3 tablet I may be tempted | 19:58 |
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| Venemo_N9 | so | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 20:01 |
| Venemo_N9 | anyone running Mer on Nexus 7 yet? :) | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | i don't buy android hardware, people give it to me for hacking | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | (nook color excepted..) | 20:02 |
| w00t | jpwhiting: btw, it's great to see someone looking into this :) i have poked around sensorfw a little in the past, so ping if you need a secnd pair of eyes - but it's not that fresh in my mind | 20:02 |
| jpwhiting | w00t: ok, will do | 20:02 |
| jpwhiting | w00t: trying to get it working for plasma active so I can test my orientation sensor that rotates the screen | 20:03 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, what do you mean? | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo_N9: as in i rarely buy hw :P | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | and i don't buy android, or apple as i don't want to support those business models :P | 20:09 |
| Venemo_N9 | ok | 20:10 |
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| Venemo_N9 | recommend me some alternative | 20:10 |
| Venemo_N9 | :P | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | soon enough | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:11 |
| Venemo_N9 | ? | 20:11 |
| Venemo_N9 | is jolla makin' tablets too? | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok, maybe that was inaccurate. nexus 7 might be good for mer but it depends on ubuntu working properly i think | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | i forgot for a moment n7 was a tablet | 20:12 |
| Venemo_N9 | some guys managed to port ubuntu to it, yes | 20:14 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'm unsure of details though | 20:14 |
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| Venemo_N9 | bbl | 20:17 |
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| Venemo | hi again :) | 20:31 |
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| cat_x301 | Stskeeps: can you tell me if '-' is intentional in e.g. in this file: | 20:40 |
| cat_x301 | ./sshd@.service:6:ExecStart=-/usr/sbin/sshd -i | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's a systemd thing | 20:40 |
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| cat_x301 | Stskeeps: ah, ok.. still trying to find out why user-session does not start.. | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | "journalctl" | 20:42 |
| cat_x301 | Stskeeps: yeah, good idea.. | 20:43 |
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| cat_x301 | nothing suspicious there http://sprunge.us/hZCH | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | systemctl, check for user-session@1000.service | 20:57 |
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| lbt | does : journalctl -b | 20:58 |
| lbt | say more? | 20:58 |
| cat_x301 | systemctl status here http://sprunge.us/aiWR | 20:59 |
| cat_x301 | lbt: that was -b | 21:00 |
| cat_x301 | lbt: journalctl -a -b --no-pager to be precise ;) | 21:00 |
| lbt | ok | 21:00 |
| cat_x301 | calling "/lib/systemd/systemd --user" manually does not show any issues either.. | 21:05 |
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| cat_x301 | all right.. found workaround: just commented ControlGroup* entries in user-session@.service and user@.service and everything started to make some sense :) | 21:41 |
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| jpwhiting | w00t: looking at the debug sensord log the pegatron plugin is never loaded | 22:36 |
| jpwhiting | and the accellerometer and magnetometer fail because the compass fails because libcompasschain.so is missing | 22:37 |
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| phaeron | cool ! | 22:38 |
| jpwhiting | dmesg does show the asus_laptop recognizes the accelerometer as event7 though | 22:38 |
| jpwhiting | and cat /dev/input/event7 gives gibberish as expected | 22:38 |
| jpwhiting | phaeron: any idea where libcompasschain.so should come from? | 22:39 |
| phaeron | yes that I get too | 22:39 |
| phaeron | jpwhiting: maybe it needs to be turned on at build time | 22:39 |
| jpwhiting | phaeron: in PLUGIN_INSTRUCTIONS_DEPRECATED he sais chains are going away | 22:41 |
| jpwhiting | and under chains there's accelerometerchain and orientationchain | 22:41 |
| jpwhiting | but no compass | 22:41 |
| phaeron | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-middleware/sensorfw/trees/master/sensors/compasssensor ? | 22:42 |
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| jpwhiting | yeah, there's the compass plugin | 22:43 |
| jpwhiting | but not the chain | 22:43 |
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| phaeron | I honestly don't know what chains are :) | 22:44 |
| jpwhiting | also in debian/changelog sensord 0.6.22 Fixed a bug with missing libcompasschain.so in RotationSensor | 22:44 |
| jpwhiting | me either | 22:44 |
| lbt | bloody hell! | 22:44 |
| jpwhiting | except that they seem different than the plugins | 22:44 |
| lbt | my VM migraton script works! | 22:44 |
| jpwhiting | because they have separate sections in the docs | 22:44 |
| jpwhiting | anyway, I'm done for today, will look more later | 22:45 |
| phaeron | https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=18746 | 22:45 |
| phaeron | never got fixed in meego ? | 22:45 |
| phaeron | https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8649 | 22:46 |
| Merbot | bugs.meego.com bug 8649 in Sensor framework "the sensorfw compasschain is missing" [Critical,Assigned] | 22:46 |
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| jpwhiting | phaeron: trouble is I'm not sure if that's why pegatron plugin is not loaded | 22:55 |
| jpwhiting | actually I don't see how the plugins are supposed to get loaded tbh | 22:56 |
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| phaeron | jpwhiting: wasn't there a conf file matching the boardname which specifies what is to be loaded ? | 22:57 |
| jpwhiting | phaeron: there's sensord-exopc.conf | 22:58 |
| jpwhiting | but I don't see what loads that | 22:58 |
| jpwhiting | according to the docs sensord.conf is loaded first, then stuff under sensord.conf.d | 22:58 |
| phaeron | no it gets matched to boardname | 22:58 |
| jpwhiting | where is boardname coming from? | 22:58 |
| phaeron | which is deduced from dmi or bios info afair | 22:59 |
| phaeron | type boardname | 22:59 |
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| phaeron | charging my exo | 23:01 |
| jpwhiting | phaeron: well, the systemd .service file is starting sensord with -c /etc/sensorfw/primaryuse.conf | 23:02 |
| jpwhiting | which doesn't exist | 23:02 |
| jpwhiting | I soft linked that to sensord-exopc.conf and it gave the same result | 23:02 |
| phaeron | hmm I clearly remember seeing the correct file loaded | 23:03 |
| phaeron | I'll check soon | 23:03 |
| jpwhiting | maybe it is, but nothing is loading the pegatronaccelerationadapter according to the sensord.log I get | 23:03 |
| jpwhiting | I changed the systemd service file to add --log-level=test | 23:03 |
| jpwhiting | so I get tons of debug output | 23:03 |
| phaeron | maybe the evdev device can be used as a joystick and map that to orientation | 23:04 |
| jpwhiting | could be | 23:05 |
| jpwhiting | it seems altlinux runs it through acpid into sensord | 23:06 |
| jpwhiting | https://github.com/wolneykien/xrandr-align/issues/1 | 23:06 |
| phaeron | or if sensorfw has a generic plugin for that | 23:06 |
| phaeron | heh was just going to say that | 23:06 |
| phaeron | since the kernel probably produces standard events | 23:06 |
| phaeron | *standardized | 23:06 |
| phaeron | did you try hdmi out too ? | 23:08 |
| jpwhiting | do we lose any features by going that route? | 23:08 |
| phaeron | jpwhiting: probably it will map only general orientation , not acceleration and not compass | 23:08 |
| phaeron | but that's speculation | 23:09 |
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| phaeron | ie. won't provide granular info | 23:13 |
| jpwhiting | yeah probably | 23:14 |
| phaeron | jpwhiting: when you upgraded the kernel you had to fix the bootloader ? | 23:15 |
| phaeron | *have | 23:15 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 23:18 |
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| phaeron | jpwhiting: interesting did you see this process running : /lib/udev/accelerometer /devices/platform/asus_laptop/input/input7 | 23:20 |
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| jpwhiting | yep, I had to fix the bootloader | 23:21 |
| jpwhiting | just softlinked extlinux/boot as .. | 23:21 |
| * jpwhiting looks for that process, one sec | 23:21 | |
| phaeron | ah yeah one of the two workarounds I outlined | 23:21 |
| jpwhiting | yep, the second one, exactly | 23:22 |
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| jpwhiting | yep, that process is running | 23:23 |
| phaeron | jpwhiting: btw /etc/sensorfw/primaryuse.conf is a symlink to /etc/sensorfw/sensord-exopc.conf | 23:23 |
| jpwhiting | it wasn't here | 23:23 |
| phaeron | hmm | 23:23 |
| jpwhiting | what package gave you that? | 23:23 |
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| jpwhiting | I added it though | 23:24 |
| phaeron | boardname reports boardname | 23:24 |
| phaeron | ia32_exopc_exopg06411_r2_0_r1_1 | 23:24 |
| jpwhiting | is the sensor working there? | 23:24 |
| jpwhiting | I didn't get boardname to run, what package is that from? | 23:24 |
| jpwhiting | ah, in /sbin | 23:25 |
| jpwhiting | mine gives 10-pegatron :) | 23:25 |
| phaeron | rpm -qf /sbin/boardname | 23:25 |
| phaeron | boardname-0.7-1.12.i586 | 23:25 |
| jpwhiting | hmm, mine is boardname-0.7-1.10.i586 | 23:26 |
| jpwhiting | probably because I'm using stable mer release | 23:26 |
| * jpwhiting wonders how much more would "just work" if he upgraded | 23:26 | |
| jpwhiting | meh baby screaming at me, more tomorrow | 23:27 |
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| phaeron | ok cya | 23:28 |
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