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| rferrazz | i've added mipsel repository as target for my project on meego obs but it doesn't build anything | 11:39 |
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| rferrazz | the project is here https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Afiorentux%3Acarambola | 11:40 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 11:42 | |
| Stskeeps | what hw are you doing it on, btw? | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | rferrazz: <arch>mipsel</arch> | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | change to <arch>mips</arch> | 11:42 |
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| Stskeeps | sec | 11:45 |
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| Stskeeps | try now | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | also | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | repository="Core_mipsel" | 11:47 |
| timoph | http://timoph.fi/kuvei/json-yaml.png | 11:53 |
| timoph | thinking about changing the test-definition format | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | interesting :) | 11:53 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: ^ | 11:53 |
| timoph | both look a lot better than xml | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | that's true, though xml is easy to script with | 11:54 |
| timoph | yep | 11:54 |
| timoph | I'm tempted to do a small proof of concept with yaml | 11:55 |
| rferrazz | Stskeeps: is this http://www.8devices.com/product/3/carambola | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | oh, that looks cute | 11:59 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm a little afraid of the ram though | 11:59 |
| phaeron | timoph: please no json ! it's finicky about quotes and commas | 11:59 |
| phaeron | and colons | 11:59 |
| timoph | :) | 12:00 |
| timoph | just thinking about alternatives. not implementing anything yet | 12:00 |
| VDVsx | is this down or just very slow: gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb ? | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | slow, probably | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | is anybody viewing qt? | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:00 |
| timoph | in any case I'd like make defining test a bit easier | 12:00 |
| VDVsx | lol | 12:00 |
| phaeron | timoph: I am just pitching in , I have to write json for boss processes confs | 12:01 |
| rferrazz | Stskeeps: i want to run only the core system, it runs openwrt by default | 12:02 |
| timoph | yeah. comments very welcome. that's why I took that screenshot. | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | rferrazz: k | 12:02 |
| timoph | besides I'm personally leaning more towards yaml anyway :p | 12:03 |
| * VDVsx can't git pull as well :( | 12:04 | |
| timoph | VDVsx: the system is hinting that you should take the rest of the day off :) | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | VDVsx: sec.. | 12:06 |
| VDVsx | timoph, noo, now that I was about to finish something :D | 12:07 |
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| kontio | who or what is starting dbus session bus? is it systemd? if so where is the .service file for it? | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's uxlaunch before systemd user sessions | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | after that it's the systemd user session | 12:49 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: did user sessions get merged? | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes but not default in .ks | 12:53 |
| w00t | hmm | 12:55 |
| w00t | how come? | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | wanted to iron out some stuff | 12:56 |
| w00t | ok | 12:56 |
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| khertan | Hello ! | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | wello khertan | 14:13 |
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| khertan | How many average time does mer/nemo vm image should take to boot up ? | 14:14 |
| khertan | i m still waiting it after 1hours | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: nemo vm image is broken and sage has been busy | 14:15 |
| khertan | :) | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | the problem is missing xorg-x11-drv-vesa | 14:15 |
| khertan | ok ... back to older one so :) | 14:15 |
| khertan | Stskeeps: thx for the information :) | 14:15 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: can you see http://review.merproject.org/#change,914 please? | 14:16 |
| khertan | i ll try how bad is my rpm package generated via cobs with a spec file created with pypackager :) | 14:16 |
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| khertan | same python script for same source but generation of .dsc and .spec at the same time :) | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: i need to kick it to be evaluated | 14:19 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: i meant my comment on it | 14:19 |
| w00t | not the autotester | 14:19 |
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| ulf` | hi | 16:34 |
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| Stskeeps | lo | 16:56 |
| ulf` | Hi Stskeeps :) | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | how's it going? | 17:09 |
| * Stskeeps is having late on-site hours for once | 17:09 | |
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| mja- | got my raspberry pi today, yay | 17:55 |
| mja- | is qt on pi still alive? I haven't figured out what to do with the board yet.. | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | qtonpi the distro is dead | 17:55 |
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| Stskeeps | and there's a few people here working on mer + rpi | 17:55 |
| mja- | that's interesting | 17:56 |
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| CosmoHill | hello / bonsoir / dag | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | wello | 18:09 |
| CosmoHill | polish? | 18:09 |
| Bostik | I'm starting to get a rash from Qt3D | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: hmm, that one we patched i though | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | t | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | and got building | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | after disabling egl | 18:10 |
| Bostik | oh I got it building without such trickery | 18:10 |
| Bostik | I just disabled the tools and got it to build | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:10 |
| CosmoHill | hey Bostik | 18:10 |
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| Bostik | it's the ever-changing packaging part since the internals are very much alive, *and* the stupid source combines two distinct pieces | 18:11 |
| Bostik | CosmoHill: evening there | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: and you do remember that /Qt/ is vestigal now too ? | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | and can be killed with fire | 18:12 |
| Bostik | practically every other part in qt5 is as straightforward as things can be considering it's Qt.. | 18:12 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: I will keep that in mind, but I'm going to get everything done once, and then I can neuter parts that are dead or dying | 18:13 |
| Bostik | kind of a waterfall approach but it helps ;) | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | just saying that it saves a lot of dreadful packagin | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | g\ | 18:13 |
| Bostik | the thought of being able to mercilessly "rm -rf %{_includedir}/qt5/Qt" is a happy one | 18:15 |
| ulf` | Stskeeps, pretty good. Yourself? | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | ulf`: quite well, getting to work with exciting things and late night hacking sessions so i'm happy :) | 18:16 |
| ali1234 | i thought Qt3D was supposed to be part of Qt main distribution now? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | it is | 18:16 |
| ali1234 | i know it was always annoying to build since it needed private headers, but i would have thought all that was fixed now? | 18:17 |
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| ulf` | Stskeeps, good :) | 18:24 |
| ulf` | Stskeeps, looking forward to seeing the outcome :) | 18:24 |
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| Bostik | ali1234: it's annoying to package since it effectively sports two distinct and rather badly separated entities - the 3D part and the Quick3D part which builds on base 3D | 18:29 |
| ali1234 | ah. last time i used it the Quick3D part didn't really exist | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | ulf`: soon enough :) | 18:34 |
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| ulf` | Stskeeps, cool! | 19:03 |
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| ljp | so close to having working sensor gestures in qtmobility. | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | \o/ | 19:45 |
| ljp | at least accel values are getting stomped on somewhere x=0,y=0,z=0 :) | 19:45 |
| ljp | at least on n900 | 19:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:47 |
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| Stskeeps | http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/nokia-meegon-tarina,10 | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | wtf at the qgraphicsview and widget comment though.. | 20:14 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: which? | 20:15 |
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| Stskeeps | well, read it | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:17 |
| w00t | I have | 20:20 |
| w00t | I want to know specifically which bit you're talking about :p | 20:20 |
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| ulf` | Go to Google Images and search for "completely wrong" | 20:24 |
| ulf` | Enjoy :) | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | i don't nearly feel they're covering meego in there, it's very harmattan sided | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | except for a random comment on that ilmatar was a nightmare | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | ulf`: wow | 20:27 |
| ulf` | Stskeeps, I heard rumors there's a massive campus for sale in Espoo. Very soon you might be able to move in there and call yourself Merkia ;) | 20:27 |
| leinir | Well, Jolla is surely buying that building ;) | 20:28 |
| leinir | Though, granted, might want to stay in Tampere, too nice up there :) | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | ulf`: i'm sitting in an office which is nearby is the old meego nokia hq in helsinki.. i wouldn't mind to move in that building | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | it was close to metro, mcdonalds, etc.. | 20:29 |
| leinir | That one /is/ very nice :) | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | also, it'd be sweet victory to put "Jolla" on the front of | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:29 |
| ulf` | Yeah :) | 20:29 |
| leinir | well, the left-side one, the right-side one was uhm... somewhere between depressing and suicide-inducing :P | 20:29 |
| * ulf` has yet to travel to Finland | 20:30 | |
| leinir | i was on loan to nokia while the office was shutting down... it was... special | 20:30 |
| * Stskeeps just hopes for a better world. | 20:31 | |
| leinir | *nods* And Jolla on the front of that building would be... kinda nice :) | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | ulf`: go in summer, global warming has really made this place survivable :P | 20:33 |
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| ulf` | Stskeeps, someday :) | 20:36 |
| Sage_ | :P | 20:37 |
| icota | the taskumuro article seems 'thrown together' | 20:40 |
| icota | or maybe hastily translated | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | hastily, yes | 20:41 |
| icota | one thing i learned from it is that intel has competitive mobile chips | 20:41 |
| icota | unfortunately they also licence a powervr gpu | 20:42 |
| totte | How is that unfortunate? | 20:42 |
| icota | totte: i was hoping for intel graphics you could have or adapt the free drivers for | 20:43 |
| Bostik | totte: basically all users of SGX chips are at the mercy of Infineon for driver support | 20:43 |
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| Stskeeps | really? | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | you mean imagination technologies? | 20:44 |
| Bostik | sorry, brainfart | 20:44 |
| Bostik | meant "Imagination" | 20:44 |
| icota | it's bad, you have to target a specific kernel version if you want to use the blob | 20:44 |
| totte | :/ | 20:44 |
| icota | beagle devices are plagued with it | 20:44 |
| icota | and most phones, i guess | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | icota: i can only say there's worse things out thre | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 20:46 |
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| icota | Stskeeps: that's why you made libhybris :) i'm actually planning to try 'freeing' a crappy android tablet with it this week | 20:47 |
| icota | allwinner A10 based | 20:48 |
| icota | i really hate it, worst purchase ever | 20:48 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:49 |
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| icota | anyone going to the Qt conference next month? | 20:53 |
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| ljp | yay! sensor gestures! (more or less) :) | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | woo :) | 21:16 |
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| ljp | but the animation on my shakeit qml app only plays once | 21:39 |
| ljp | text changes when a gesture is recognized. but no anim :( | 21:39 |
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