*** odin_ has quit IRC | 00:02 | |
*** apol has quit IRC | 00:05 | |
*** jstaniek has quit IRC | 00:12 | |
*** phdeswer has quit IRC | 00:53 | |
*** phdeswer has joined #mer | 00:55 | |
*** thierry_troll has quit IRC | 00:58 | |
*** thierry_troll has joined #mer | 00:58 | |
*** clopez has quit IRC | 01:01 | |
*** odin_ has joined #mer | 01:09 | |
*** slx has joined #mer | 01:12 | |
*** swerden has quit IRC | 01:15 | |
*** himamura has quit IRC | 01:20 | |
*** phdeswer has quit IRC | 01:43 | |
*** phdeswer has joined #mer | 01:44 | |
*** araujo has quit IRC | 02:03 | |
*** FSCV_ has quit IRC | 02:13 | |
*** kaziklubey has joined #mer | 02:14 | |
*** panda-z has joined #mer | 02:43 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 02:49 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 02:53 | |
*** FSCV has joined #mer | 03:08 | |
*** bef0rd has joined #mer | 03:24 | |
*** FSCV_ has joined #mer | 03:26 | |
*** FSCV has quit IRC | 03:30 | |
*** dakovaci has quit IRC | 03:36 | |
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC | 03:38 | |
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #mer | 03:38 | |
*** FSCV_ has quit IRC | 03:58 | |
*** phdeswer has quit IRC | 04:02 | |
*** shrikrishna_ has joined #mer | 04:06 | |
*** shrikrishna has quit IRC | 04:06 | |
*** araujo has joined #mer | 04:12 | |
*** araujo has joined #mer | 04:12 | |
*** panda-z has quit IRC | 04:33 | |
*** _Razor_ has quit IRC | 04:34 | |
*** _Razor_ has joined #mer | 04:36 | |
*** phinaliumz has joined #mer | 04:39 | |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 04:53 | |
*** akuma__ has joined #mer | 05:06 | |
*** panda-z has joined #mer | 05:09 | |
situ | Morning everyone | 05:10 |
---|---|---|
*** rdqfdx has joined #mer | 05:16 | |
*** seanvk_home has quit IRC | 05:30 | |
*** gimli has joined #mer | 05:30 | |
*** _Razor_ has quit IRC | 05:31 | |
*** _Razor_ has joined #mer | 05:32 | |
*** dakovaci has joined #mer | 06:16 | |
*** bef0rd has quit IRC | 06:17 | |
*** phdeswer has joined #mer | 06:23 | |
*** phaeron has quit IRC | 06:41 | |
*** mardy has quit IRC | 06:41 | |
*** dakovaci has quit IRC | 06:41 | |
*** dakovaci has joined #mer | 06:41 | |
*** mardy has joined #mer | 06:42 | |
*** phaeron has joined #mer | 06:45 | |
*** panda-z has quit IRC | 06:47 | |
*** nitrate_ has quit IRC | 06:47 | |
*** ccssnet has quit IRC | 06:47 | |
*** arfoll has quit IRC | 06:47 | |
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** deztructor has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** shadeslayer has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** cos- has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** sledges has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** jussi has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** beford has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** aquatix has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** kimitake has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
*** disco_stu has quit IRC | 06:48 | |
Stskeeps | morn | 06:54 |
*** shrikrishna_ has quit IRC | 06:57 | |
Stskeeps | lbt: snapshot when you have time | 07:00 |
situ | Stskeeps: started with Qt5 beta ? | 07:00 |
Stskeeps | had to finish the toolchain first :) | 07:02 |
Stskeeps | qt5 i'm doing monday morning | 07:02 |
Stskeeps | situ: did you see my qt5 on android gpu demo? | 07:03 |
situ | Nope where it is ? | 07:03 |
Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvRP3rcF9o&feature=g-upl | 07:04 |
Stskeeps | also works in 1024x768 at 60fps | 07:04 |
situ | This one I saw :) | 07:05 |
*** phinaliumz has quit IRC | 07:06 | |
situ | Stskeeps: Let me know if you need help with anything else. | 07:07 |
Stskeeps | going to take a look at the qt5 packaging now | 07:08 |
Stskeeps | could you send me the most recent tar.gz of your modular-qt-specs? | 07:09 |
situ | Just apply diff to the the tarball I sent. | 07:10 |
Stskeeps | ok | 07:10 |
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
*** deztructor has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
*** shadeslayer has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
*** cos- has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
*** sledges has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
*** jussi has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
*** panda-z has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** nitrate_ has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** ccssnet has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** arfoll has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** beford has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** aquatix has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** kimitake has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** disco_stu has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
*** byako has quit IRC | 07:12 | |
*** byako has joined #mer | 07:26 | |
*** gimli_ has joined #mer | 07:29 | |
*** gimli has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
*** gimli has joined #mer | 07:34 | |
*** gimli has quit IRC | 07:35 | |
*** gimli_ has quit IRC | 07:38 | |
*** lucas_ has joined #mer | 07:54 | |
*** thierry_troll has joined #mer | 07:56 | |
*** NIN101 has joined #mer | 07:59 | |
*** shrikrishna has joined #mer | 08:22 | |
*** cristi has joined #mer | 08:24 | |
byako | \o/ pancake time! | 08:26 |
Stskeeps | yay | 08:26 |
* Stskeeps had pancakes yesterday | 08:26 | |
*** gimli has joined #mer | 08:28 | |
*** dakovaci has quit IRC | 08:32 | |
*** dakovaci has joined #mer | 08:36 | |
*** akuma_ has joined #mer | 08:39 | |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 08:43 | |
*** exman3 has joined #mer | 08:56 | |
*** exman2 has quit IRC | 08:56 | |
capisce | Stskeeps: do you have a recommendation for an android tablet to play with the gpu adaption? | 09:04 |
Stskeeps | capisce: anything that has a (proper) open source kernel above 2.6.32, where you can flash and boot your own rootfs, ideally from microsd | 09:06 |
Stskeeps | it has been checked on omap4 and qualcomm so far | 09:07 |
* dm8tbr would suggest archos g9, but that has working x11/glibc drivers :) | 09:07 | |
Stskeeps | yeah, archos would probably be a nice choice | 09:07 |
Stskeeps | capisce: i'm still astonished it worked so easily, 1024x768 @ 60fps, no crashes in kernel/app, etc | 09:09 |
Stskeeps | looking forward to putting some input into that thing too | 09:09 |
capisce | Stskeeps: nice :) | 09:09 |
capisce | yeah, touch input is pretty crucial | 09:09 |
RaYmAn | at least ics/jb put more constraints on touch drivers for android, so they are closer to what x11 wants :) | 09:10 |
Stskeeps | RaYmAn: saw my most recent video? | 09:11 |
RaYmAn | Stskeeps: yeah, looks cool! | 09:11 |
Stskeeps | i also look forward to seeing how we can have buffer sharing on android style drivers | 09:11 |
RaYmAn | Will be interesting to try it out on tegra3 :> (yeah - there are x11 drivers, but meh) or even allwinner based devices! :) | 09:11 |
capisce | Stskeeps: dm8tbr: would the asus transformer pad TF300T also do the trick? | 09:14 |
Stskeeps | http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/04/asus-releases-firmware-kernel-source-code-for-the-transformer-pad-300-tf300t/ looks sane-ish | 09:15 |
RaYmAn | tf300 even has a 3.1.10 kernel :P | 09:19 |
RaYmAn | The ohters only have unofficial 3.1.10's | 09:19 |
RaYmAn | (tegra-wise, 3.1.10 is the newest with android graphics drivers) | 09:20 |
RaYmAn | capisce: there are actually official X11 drivers for tegra3 from nvidia - they should work on tf300 with a bit of shoehorning | 09:23 |
*** arcean has joined #mer | 09:23 | |
Stskeeps | good for performance comparison, i guess | 09:24 |
capisce | right | 09:24 |
* Stskeeps ponders idly why a small android system inside a mer system somehow seems less dirty than libX11 dependencies.. | 09:24 | |
capisce | I wonder what Google would say about a mer/android device given the recent Acer nonsense | 09:27 |
Stskeeps | well, i think the problem lies in if android trademarks are being used | 09:28 |
Stskeeps | and if anything, i like to see this way of getting people out of the android trap. | 09:28 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:29 |
Stskeeps | where there are no choices than android due to lack of hardware support | 09:29 |
*** kaziklubey has quit IRC | 09:29 | |
capisce | indeed | 09:29 |
Stskeeps | i look forward to seeing how well wayland+qml compositor+qt5 can run on even low end android hw | 09:32 |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 09:36 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 09:36 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 09:36 | |
Stskeeps | morn Sfiet_Konstantin | 09:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | morning Stskeeps | 09:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | well, late morning | 09:37 |
Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: seen my latest exploits? | 09:38 |
*** shrikrishna has quit IRC | 09:38 | |
Sfiet_Konstantin | running mer + qmlscene on an androiid device using bionic hw drivers ? | 09:38 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 09:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | that was impressively smooth | 09:38 |
Stskeeps | it's even smooth in 1024x768 | 09:38 |
Stskeeps | i should really get some particles demo on there.. | 09:39 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | kudos ! | 09:39 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | oh yeah I want ! | 09:39 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | why I suddenly want to get an android device ? :D | 09:39 |
Stskeeps | well, still a lot of work to be done, infrastructure wise, etc | 09:42 |
Stskeeps | though that starts with qt5 beta1 on monday-tuesday, then i start making virtual machine images with that and qml compositor, so we really can start testing | 09:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | alright ! | 09:43 |
capisce | Stskeeps: this is a pretty cool test case, I ran it on the raspberry pi: http://kgronholm.blogspot.no/2012/08/qt5-cinematic-experience.html | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | i've forgotten: is that running wayland ? | 09:43 |
Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: no, right now it's 'just' eglfs | 09:43 |
Stskeeps | ie, full screen egl | 09:43 |
capisce | you might be interested in a qml terminal emulator as well: https://github.com/jorgen/yat :) | 09:44 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 09:44 |
*** dakovaci has quit IRC | 09:44 | |
*** beford has quit IRC | 09:45 | |
Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: when you have eglfs, you can run qml compositor with shm wayland buffers.. then when you implement gpu buffer sharing, you can have gles apps | 09:45 |
Stskeeps | so it's a pretty good start | 09:45 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah, seems to | 09:46 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | (I'm not totally aware of every technical term here, but alright) | 09:46 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:46 |
w00t | capisce: cool | 09:47 |
*** beford has joined #mer | 09:50 | |
*** gimli has joined #mer | 09:54 | |
lucas_ | Hi Mer community. I'm wondering, what is the main work you do? Mixing all the existing open source projects that it runs ootb for OEMs, so mainly packaging? Like e.g. Debian but for (mainly) for mobiles? | 09:57 |
*** yunta has joined #mer | 09:58 | |
Stskeeps | 'lo lucas - what we do is providing a mobile core, ie, all the stuff and tools you need to have a sane mobile device and an operation surrounding it (build systems, QA tools, etc). we don't provide hardware adaptations and we don't provide UIs, and strive to make a solution that yields 60fps for QML/HTML5 interfaces | 09:59 |
Stskeeps | lucas_: as well as having a common area to collaborate on, without areas that normally would cause a lot of arguments and discussions | 09:59 |
*** akuma__ has joined #mer | 09:59 | |
Stskeeps | https://archive.fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/391/79_beyond.pdf | 09:59 |
*** akuma_ has quit IRC | 10:01 | |
Stskeeps | what we mainly do: packaging, participate in upstream projects, innovate in areas to make it easier to put on devices (see libhybris), QA, tools surroundign the core (SDK, image creators, development tools, build farm software, continous integration, etc) | 10:02 |
Stskeeps | so even a small startup can do things that used to be reserved for bigger companies to do | 10:02 |
*** shrikrishna has joined #mer | 10:03 | |
lucas_ | Thanks for the answer. But you don't write code for accessing GPS / GSM / .. ? You use Qt Mobility (or provide) ? | 10:03 |
Stskeeps | we use ofono and connman, as example, we provide qt mobility | 10:03 |
Stskeeps | we try hard to avoid NIH, so if there's a good solution there already, we use it | 10:04 |
Stskeeps | we intentionally split out hardware adaptation to ensure sane interfaces and portability | 10:06 |
Stskeeps | and ensuring open source of the core | 10:06 |
Stskeeps | lucas_: so what's your interest in mer? | 10:07 |
lucas_ | ah ok, so if I want to get involved in mobile developing (more coding part) I should more have a look at projects like Nemo? | 10:07 |
Stskeeps | for example, or plasma active | 10:07 |
Stskeeps | they use us as a core | 10:08 |
*** cristi is now known as Guest69952 | 10:08 | |
*** lucas_ is now known as lucas_rnd | 10:09 | |
*** NIN101 has quit IRC | 10:09 | |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: a question | 10:09 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | did openWebOS or Tizen shown interest about Mer ? | 10:09 |
lucas_rnd | I decided to get involved in a open source project :). Mobile is a very interesting subject, and I got some C++/Qt skills, so I'm checking where I can and how I can get involved | 10:10 |
*** arturo182 has joined #mer | 10:11 | |
Sfiet_Konstantin | lucas_rnd: well, build some apps ? | 10:12 |
Stskeeps | lucas_rnd: start with qml then, and try out nemo | 10:12 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I remember that I started (unsuccessfully) with KDE | 10:12 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | nemo can be a good target | 10:12 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | or if you need practice, what about Harmattan on Freemantle before nemo | 10:13 |
Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: openwebos.. maybe so me of the community people but it's hard to convert OE people | 10:13 |
*** CosmoHill has joined #mer | 10:13 | |
Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: tizen.. do i really have to comment | 10:13 |
Stskeeps | :P | 10:13 |
lucas_rnd | For a good app I would need a good idea. I'd rather try to get involved in something bigger | 10:13 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: it is what it seems like. That's really bad | 10:13 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: :P | 10:14 |
lucas_rnd | I will have a look at Nemo & Plasma active. Thanks for the explanations | 10:14 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | lucas_rnd: just go to TMO | 10:14 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and see the number of OSS projects you can contribute | 10:14 |
Stskeeps | lucas_rnd: feel free to hang around and ask questions at any time :) | 10:14 |
Stskeeps | lucas_rnd: #nemomobile and #active | 10:14 |
*** NIN101 has joined #mer | 10:15 | |
lucas_rnd | thanks | 10:15 |
Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: Tizen 2.0 is mer-ish anyway | 10:16 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ie ? | 10:16 |
Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: which is good, since they listened | 10:16 |
Stskeeps | well, structure wise | 10:16 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it would be better to just take mer and rebase their EFL framework on it isn't it ? | 10:16 |
Stskeeps | some might argue that | 10:17 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but maybe they don't really want to work with downstream ? | 10:17 |
Stskeeps | and the intel OTC are good guys but ina bit of a hard place | 10:17 |
Stskeeps | either way, we do what we do in mer and we do it well | 10:18 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: it seems | 10:18 |
*** faenil has joined #mer | 10:18 | |
Stskeeps | and merging os's is always such a mess.. changing tools, teaching people how to use new methods, etc.. | 10:20 |
faenil | morning people! | 10:21 |
Stskeeps | morn faenil | 10:21 |
CosmoHill | morning faenil | 10:34 |
faenil | hey :) | 10:34 |
*** shrikrishna has quit IRC | 10:44 | |
*** dakovaci has joined #mer | 10:48 | |
*** gimli has joined #mer | 10:53 | |
*** lucas_rnd has quit IRC | 10:54 | |
*** faenil has quit IRC | 10:54 | |
*** phdeswer_ has joined #mer | 10:58 | |
*** phdeswer has quit IRC | 11:01 | |
*** Nemesiz has joined #mer | 11:10 | |
*** merder has joined #mer | 11:13 | |
*** FSCV has joined #mer | 11:14 | |
*** DarwinSurvivor has quit IRC | 11:17 | |
Stskeeps | lbt: snapshot please :) | 11:31 |
*** phdeswer_ has quit IRC | 11:32 | |
lbt | yep, saw, doing | 11:33 |
*** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 11:35 | |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 11:37 | |
lbt | new gcc ? | 11:39 |
Stskeeps | and glibc | 11:40 |
Stskeeps | for qt5 ICE problem | 11:40 |
lbt | yep | 11:40 |
Stskeeps | RaYmAn: could you outline me what exactly boot.img and recovery.img contains? | 11:41 |
*** faenil has joined #mer | 11:43 | |
lbt | Stskeeps: I'm going to purge old pre-releases (0.20120719.0.4 and older) - any objections? | 11:45 |
*** phdeswer_ has joined #mer | 11:45 | |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:45 |
faenil | back :) Stskeeps what's the current status of Qt5 on nemo? needs porting? needs packaging? | 11:46 |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 11:48 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 11:50 | |
*** akuma__ has joined #mer | 11:54 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 11:54 | |
lbt | Sage_: I'd like to tag and release 0.3 of repomd-pattern-builder | 11:58 |
lbt | "Handle multiple documents in a yaml file" | 11:58 |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 12:00 | |
RaYmAn | stskeeps: ramdisk, kernel, optional cmdline, load addresses and sizes.. got a standalone package for messing with them here : http://github.com/androidroot/boottools | 12:03 |
Stskeeps | RaYmAn: cool | 12:04 |
faenil | Stskeeps, Qt5? :P | 12:04 |
Stskeeps | faenil: monday-tuesday | 12:04 |
faenil | oh ok so it's already done | 12:04 |
faenil | :) | 12:04 |
RaYmAn | its just blobs of data that gets loaded to ram so actual format for e.g. ramdisk doesnt matter as long as kernrl can handle it | 12:05 |
faenil | great! one more thing, where's qtmobility repo? is it still in OBS? I can't find it | 12:05 |
Stskeeps | faenil: it's in mer git | 12:05 |
faenil | alright, last time I checked it it was in meego's obs...thanks ;) | 12:06 |
*** nitrate_ has quit IRC | 12:14 | |
*** furikku has joined #mer | 12:14 | |
*** pohly has joined #mer | 12:23 | |
*** ScriptRipper has quit IRC | 12:26 | |
*** ScriptRipper has joined #mer | 12:29 | |
*** CosmoHill has joined #mer | 12:39 | |
*** rcg has joined #mer | 12:42 | |
rcg | greetings from almeria | 12:42 |
Stskeeps | o/ | 12:43 |
*** jluisn has joined #mer | 12:43 | |
*** cat_n9 has quit IRC | 12:44 | |
*** jluisn has quit IRC | 12:46 | |
*** FSCV has quit IRC | 12:47 | |
*** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 12:53 | |
*** cat_n9 has joined #mer | 12:58 | |
*** NIN101 has quit IRC | 13:00 | |
*** dakovaci has quit IRC | 13:11 | |
*** andre__ has joined #mer | 13:12 | |
*** arturo182 has quit IRC | 13:16 | |
*** pohly has quit IRC | 13:24 | |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 13:25 | |
*** akuma__ has joined #mer | 13:25 | |
*** deztructor has quit IRC | 13:35 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 13:36 | |
*** panda-z has quit IRC | 13:48 | |
*** panda-z has joined #mer | 13:49 | |
*** thierry_troll has quit IRC | 13:54 | |
*** shrikrishna has joined #mer | 13:54 | |
*** vgrade has joined #mer | 13:55 | |
*** wmarone__ has quit IRC | 13:59 | |
*** wmarone__ has joined #mer | 14:00 | |
*** beford has quit IRC | 14:05 | |
vgrade | Stskeeps, I found this usefull when I started with boot.img's http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack%2C_Edit%2C_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images | 14:10 |
*** beford has joined #mer | 14:11 | |
*** phinaliumz has joined #mer | 14:17 | |
tanuk | If I have two OBS projects, one of which depends on the other, how do I instruct osc to download the dependencies from the right repository instead of just using whatever Mer provides? | 14:18 |
tanuk | I have changes in pulseaudio (branched from Mer.MDS:Core:armv7hl) that I need to have available when I build pulesaudio-modules-n900 (from CE:Adaptation:N9xx-common). | 14:20 |
*** NIN101 has joined #mer | 14:22 | |
tanuk | So the trouble is that my changes in pulseaudio are not available, because osc build downloads the pulseaudio-devel package from the official Mer repository instead of my own branch. | 14:23 |
lbt | tanuk: so show me the projects | 14:24 |
tanuk | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Atanuk2%3Abranches%3AMer.MDS%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 14:25 |
tanuk | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Atanuk2%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN9xx-common | 14:25 |
lbt | right - thought that's what you meant | 14:25 |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 14:26 | |
lbt | osc copypac home:tanuk2:branches:Mer.MDS:Core:armv7hl pulseaudio-modules-n900 home:tanuk2:branches:Mer.MDS:Core:armv7hl | 14:26 |
lbt | so what's happening here... | 14:27 |
lbt | when you build an osc package you use a repo to obtain the build deps and install deps | 14:28 |
lbt | typically you provide src and build against a reasonably complete repo (Mer) | 14:28 |
lbt | however, when you build your package the binaries go into a repo of the current project | 14:29 |
lbt | and that's now searched first | 14:29 |
lbt | so by building all the packages in one repo, you put all the rpms of your src together | 14:30 |
lbt | and they are prefferentially used | 14:30 |
lbt | there is another way... | 14:30 |
lbt | in the metadata for home:tanuk2:branches:CE:Adaptation:N9xx-common you can see a <path> directive | 14:31 |
lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Atanuk2%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN9xx-common | 14:31 |
lbt | you could add another <path> pointing to the home:tanuk2:branches:Mer.MDS:Core:armv7hl repo | 14:31 |
lbt | (that's something we'd do if we had a team repo and they wanted to work with another team's bleeding edge code) | 14:32 |
lbt | make sense? | 14:32 |
tanuk | lbt: Yes, thank you very much! | 14:32 |
lbt | np ... and yes, I will write this up ... promise | 14:33 |
tanuk | lbt: While waiting for the writeup, I'll save the irc log... About the second approach, does the order of the paths matter? Or is the version with the highest version number selected if a package is found in both repositories? | 14:35 |
lbt | both good questions | 14:35 |
lbt | yes, order matters, I *think* it does a scan through the <paths> and then goes deep into the first one | 14:36 |
lbt | the algo is not documented AFAIK | 14:36 |
lbt | It uses the first rpm it finds - even if a newer is available | 14:36 |
lbt | even if the version it finds is too low for the Require and a higher one is available elswhere (ie it fails to build in that case) | 14:37 |
lbt | so it's .... interesting | 14:37 |
tanuk | Alright, thanks again for the information. | 14:38 |
lbt | multi-<path> is best avoided and certainly best kept to a minimum | 14:38 |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 14:38 | |
*** CosmoHill has joined #mer | 14:45 | |
*** faenil has quit IRC | 14:51 | |
*** rcg has quit IRC | 14:52 | |
*** faenil has joined #mer | 14:53 | |
*** akuma__ has joined #mer | 14:54 | |
*** phinaliumz has quit IRC | 14:54 | |
*** f3an0r|2 has quit IRC | 15:01 | |
*** macmaN has quit IRC | 15:03 | |
*** macmaN has joined #mer | 15:05 | |
*** talavis has quit IRC | 15:08 | |
*** macmaN has quit IRC | 15:10 | |
*** talavis has joined #mer | 15:11 | |
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 15:11 | |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 15:11 | |
*** akuma_ has joined #mer | 15:12 | |
*** macmaN has joined #mer | 15:17 | |
*** cat_n9 has quit IRC | 15:25 | |
*** Artox has joined #mer | 15:30 | |
*** cat_n9 has joined #mer | 15:44 | |
*** special has joined #mer | 15:44 | |
*** Guest69952 is now known as cristi | 15:45 | |
*** nj3ma has joined #mer | 15:47 | |
*** shrikrishna has quit IRC | 16:12 | |
*** alien_ has joined #mer | 16:19 | |
*** Ionakka has joined #mer | 16:21 | |
*** cristi has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
*** shrikrishna has joined #mer | 16:26 | |
*** shadeslayer has quit IRC | 16:32 | |
*** shadeslayer has joined #mer | 16:33 | |
*** shrikrishna has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
*** Nemesiz has quit IRC | 16:39 | |
*** nj3ma has quit IRC | 16:39 | |
*** phdeswer_ is now known as phdeswer | 16:42 | |
*** por has joined #mer | 16:44 | |
*** talavis has quit IRC | 16:46 | |
*** nibbler has quit IRC | 16:47 | |
*** Ionakka has quit IRC | 16:58 | |
*** por has quit IRC | 17:06 | |
lbt | phaeron: ping | 17:08 |
phaeron | lbt: yes | 17:08 |
lbt | hey ... just looking at imgw1 on mer infra | 17:08 |
lbt | it has img-worker installed | 17:08 |
lbt | but nothing is running | 17:08 |
lbt | there's nothing in init.d/ | 17:09 |
lbt | or in chkconfig | 17:09 |
*** nj3ma has joined #mer | 17:09 | |
*** shrikrishna has joined #mer | 17:09 | |
phaeron | I don't know what's imgw1. is it newly installed ? | 17:09 |
lbt | no, been up a while | 17:09 |
lbt | 12.1 suse box | 17:09 |
phaeron | lbt: http://autodoc.meego.com/mint/imager/ :) | 17:09 |
phaeron | lbt: also skynet status | 17:10 |
lbt | ERROR: is supervisord running ? | 17:11 |
lbt | systemctl start supervisord.service | 17:12 |
lbt | Job failed. See system logs and 'systemctl status' for details. | 17:12 |
phaeron | how's the new phost coming ? | 17:13 |
lbt | ? | 17:13 |
lbt | all new phosts are up | 17:13 |
phaeron | one of them was supposed to be for imager ? | 17:13 |
lbt | phost5? | 17:14 |
phaeron | I don't know I am asking you :) | 17:14 |
lbt | phost5 | 17:14 |
lbt | it has img and imgw1 on it | 17:14 |
lbt | from months and months ago | 17:15 |
lbt | jan | 17:15 |
lbt | it still doesn't really work | 17:15 |
phaeron | ok shouldn't we deploy a new one instead with proper kvm workers ? | 17:15 |
lbt | sure - I just wanted an SDK image ... | 17:15 |
lbt | and web ui was up | 17:15 |
lbt | it worked in june since Stskeeps did an image then | 17:16 |
lbt | but for some reason it now fails | 17:16 |
lbt | probably doesn't survive a reboot | 17:16 |
phaeron | well if supervisor is not running then you have something wrong related to that | 17:16 |
phaeron | it does if it is setup correctly | 17:16 |
*** shrikrishna has quit IRC | 17:16 | |
lbt | so2012-07-02 14:07:24,761 INFO success: build_ks_0 entered RUNNING state, process has stayed up for > than 5 seconds (startsecs) | 17:17 |
lbt | last message in /var/log/supervisord/supervisord.log | 17:17 |
phaeron | quite old doesn't mean anything | 17:18 |
lbt | Sep 16 19:17:06 imgw1 systemd[1]: supervisord.service: control process exited, code=exited status=7 | 17:18 |
lbt | Sep 16 19:17:06 imgw1 systemd[1]: Unit supervisord.service entered failed state. | 17:18 |
lbt | the rather unhelpful systemd report :( | 17:18 |
phaeron | there should be some logging in demsg or something | 17:19 |
phaeron | systemd is great ! not .. :D | 17:19 |
*** nj3ma has quit IRC | 17:19 | |
lbt | knowing systemd you just need to write a little C code to grab the logs from the "obvious" bit of kmem or something | 17:20 |
*** faenil has quit IRC | 17:25 | |
lbt | marvelous | 17:34 |
lbt | upgrade the VM ... now it won't boot | 17:34 |
lbt | Could not find /dev/vda | 17:35 |
phaeron | I really really think we should deploy a new imager :) | 17:36 |
lbt | ui works | 17:38 |
lbt | but OK | 17:38 |
lbt | both destroyed | 17:38 |
lbt | what OS? | 17:38 |
lbt | 12.1 ? | 17:38 |
phaeron | yes | 17:39 |
phaeron | is it connected to the boss that doesn't work ? | 17:39 |
phaeron | I mean does it need a new boss first , too ? | 17:39 |
lbt | why not | 17:39 |
lbt | dm8tbr: ping reminder about ircbot :) | 17:42 |
phaeron | lbt: do you have a README for the new boss deployment process ? | 17:42 |
lbt | no | 17:43 |
lbt | this will help me make one | 17:43 |
lbt | I think it's "zypper in boss" | 17:43 |
phaeron | ok let's see | 17:44 |
*** nibbler has joined #mer | 17:46 | |
lbt | phaeron: OK - the 12.1 of boss install has a few issues - I think we need to be more rpm-ish and not actually start services | 18:09 |
lbt | which also means we can't auto-create users since DB may not be running | 18:09 |
lbt | (the errors are from python-boss-skynet-0.6.2-1.1 and rabbitmq-server btw) | 18:10 |
phaeron | lbt: we used to start rabbitmq manually I think | 18:11 |
lbt | sigh | 18:12 |
lbt | so fresh vm | 18:13 |
lbt | ERROR: is supervisord running ? | 18:13 |
lbt | ah | 18:13 |
lbt | zypper in python-xml | 18:14 |
phaeron | lbt: which side is that now boss or img | 18:16 |
lbt | boss/skynet | 18:16 |
lbt | bug 571 | 18:17 |
Merbot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571 normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, supervisord prints: ERROR: is supervisord running : missing python-xml dependency | 18:17 |
phaeron | ok | 18:18 |
*** nj3ma has joined #mer | 18:18 | |
lbt | phaeron: it looks like I was wrong :) | 18:22 |
lbt | zypper in boss rabbitmq-server | 18:22 |
lbt | (and the python-xml to workaround the bug) | 18:23 |
phaeron | oh yeah boss recommends only because it could be on remote server | 18:23 |
*** akuma_ has quit IRC | 18:26 | |
lbt | yep | 18:26 |
*** nj3ma has quit IRC | 18:38 | |
*** akuma_ has joined #mer | 18:43 | |
*** shadeslayer has quit IRC | 18:54 | |
*** shadeslayer has joined #mer | 18:55 | |
Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs | 18:58 |
vgrade | wow | 19:01 |
Stskeeps | yeah, hopefully we'll be able to do really insanely cool interfaces with qt5 too | 19:05 |
*** icebloke1 has joined #mer | 19:09 | |
*** crysaz has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
*** icebloke1 has left #mer | 19:11 | |
*** furikku has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
*** talavis has joined #mer | 19:17 | |
*** niqt has joined #mer | 19:31 | |
*** mikhas has joined #mer | 19:32 | |
*** NIN101 has quit IRC | 19:36 | |
*** f3an0r|2 has joined #mer | 19:43 | |
*** nj3ma has joined #mer | 19:48 | |
*** Artox has quit IRC | 19:48 | |
lbt | phaeron: so | 19:50 |
lbt | img_web 00 BACKOFF | 19:50 |
*** aquatix is now known as aquat1x | 19:50 | |
lbt | request_image BACKOFF | 19:50 |
*** niqt has quit IRC | 19:50 | |
*** deztructor has joined #mer | 19:52 | |
phaeron | skynet log | 19:52 |
lbt | ah, I missed the mysql config | 19:54 |
lbt | nb ... no root passwd was created for mysql | 19:54 |
phaeron | what does that mean ? | 19:55 |
lbt | "MySQL is installed by default and during installation a root account will have been created. The password is needed to create an img user." | 19:56 |
*** phdeswer has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
lbt | fwiw that doesn't happen | 19:57 |
phaeron | hmm | 19:57 |
phaeron | must be something different in 12.1 | 19:57 |
lbt | suggest running: mysql_secure_installation | 19:57 |
lbt | on suse at least | 19:57 |
*** thetet has joined #mer | 19:58 | |
*** gimli has quit IRC | 19:59 | |
lbt | nginx or lighttpd? | 19:59 |
phaeron | nginx or apache | 19:59 |
phaeron | apache not documented yet | 19:59 |
phaeron | lighttpd I should remove from the docs. | 20:00 |
lbt | OK | 20:00 |
lbt | wtf | 20:00 |
lbt | The following NEW packages are going to be installed: | 20:01 |
lbt | xorg-x11-libICE xorg-x11-libSM xorg-x11-libX11 | 20:01 |
lbt | xorg-x11-libXau xorg-x11-libXext xorg-x11-libXpm xorg-x11-libXt xorg-x11-libxcb | 20:01 |
lbt | for nginx ? | 20:01 |
phaeron | --no-recommends ? | 20:01 |
lbt | same | 20:01 |
lbt | it's only GeoIP which is recommend | 20:02 |
* lbt suspects some weird font stuff | 20:02 | |
phaeron | ok apache then | 20:02 |
*** mikhas has quit IRC | 20:03 | |
phaeron | though with nginx it's quite easy to fastcgi pass | 20:04 |
lbt | and /etc/nginx/vhosts.d/ doesn't exist | 20:05 |
*** niqt has joined #mer | 20:05 | |
phaeron | that's typical sysadmin stuff | 20:06 |
*** niqt_ has joined #mer | 20:08 | |
*** niqt has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
yunta | lbt: are you installing imger with phaeron's instructions? | 20:16 |
lbt | yes | 20:17 |
yunta | I can give you working nginx config if you want | 20:17 |
lbt | yes please | 20:17 |
yunta | I remember having similar problems | 20:17 |
yunta | but I fucked-up by not correcting the instructions :( | 20:18 |
phaeron | I merged in whatever corrections you sent :) | 20:18 |
lbt | I am currently thinking it's a bit much cut'n'paste - this stuff should all be in a sample config dir | 20:18 |
yunta | phaeron: yes, I fucked up by not sending everything :) | 20:19 |
phaeron | I need to merge the vm_testing branch too | 20:21 |
lbt | what does: participant group img-web does not exist, ignoring it | 20:22 |
lbt | mean | 20:22 |
lbt | (from skynet reload img-web) | 20:23 |
phaeron | lbt: img_web | 20:23 |
phaeron | lbt: skynet status | 20:23 |
lbt | d'oh | 20:23 |
*** f3an0r|2 has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
phaeron | will show you what is running | 20:23 |
lbt | http://autodoc.meego.com/mint/imager/configuration/img-conf.html#all-done | 20:23 |
lbt | I cut'n'pasted :) | 20:23 |
phaeron | sorry :( | 20:24 |
*** yunta_ has joined #mer | 20:25 | |
*** mikhas has joined #mer | 20:26 | |
lbt | yunta_: config? | 20:28 |
lbt | (was just fixing the django static failing on suse because the conf file had /var/www ) | 20:28 |
*** akuma_ has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
*** akuma_ has joined #mer | 20:29 | |
yunta | lbt: I've sent it some time ago by email | 20:31 |
*** thetet has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
lbt | got it - was waiting for a pastie :_ | 20:31 |
yunta | I was too lazy to figure out what you actually need :) | 20:32 |
yunta | so I tared everything | 20:32 |
lbt | :P | 20:33 |
yunta | I can't find my installation notes. But in general: you'll need to create proper accounts, missing directories (also for nginx, for logs, for who knows what), | 20:33 |
yunta | not all participants configs are good to go without modifications | 20:33 |
lbt | yep - some I can understand | 20:33 |
yunta | reading 'just the interesting' sections of docs may not be enough | 20:33 |
yunta | and copy-pasting from there blindly just doesn't work | 20:34 |
lbt | the really difficult stuff is that I wrote it so I know it ... apart from where it changed :/ | 20:34 |
yunta | wow | 20:35 |
yunta | :D | 20:35 |
lbt | the participant/boss stuff - not the django/img stuff | 20:35 |
*** mikhas has quit IRC | 20:35 | |
yunta | ok | 20:36 |
phaeron | the base stuff hasn't really changed much | 20:36 |
lbt | no, it's weird shit like "nginx needs to run as same user as participant" ? | 20:37 |
phaeron | that | 20:39 |
phaeron | is not true | 20:39 |
*** nj3ma has quit IRC | 20:39 | |
phaeron | where did you get that ? | 20:39 |
lbt | yunta's config | 20:39 |
yunta | ehm | 20:39 |
yunta | my config is not the best reference | 20:39 |
phaeron | http://autodoc.meego.com/mint/imager/configuration/img-conf.html#configure-nginx | 20:40 |
phaeron | what's the error with that , maybe I can remember | 20:40 |
yunta | I was kind of hurry and did not understand a bit I was doing | 20:40 |
lbt | https://img.merproject.org/img/ | 20:40 |
phaeron | lbt: log ? | 20:41 |
lbt | *13 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while connecting to upstream, clie | 20:41 |
lbt | mmm | 20:41 |
lbt | it's no longer listening | 20:41 |
lbt | it was before | 20:41 |
phaeron | lbt: just make sure the fastcgi is listening on correct address / port | 20:42 |
lbt | it stopped | 20:42 |
lbt | my bad ... I'd stopped it | 20:42 |
phaeron | :'( | 20:44 |
lbt | mmmm | 20:45 |
lbt | oops | 20:45 |
lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK says curl -k -O https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 | 20:45 |
lbt | which is .... not there | 20:45 |
* phaeron tries to decipher | 20:46 | |
phaeron | when did we jump to sdk docs :D | 20:46 |
*** phdeswer has joined #mer | 20:46 | |
lbt | I'm seeing GET /images/sdk/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 404 in the logs | 20:47 |
lbt | and wondering why | 20:47 |
phaeron | in the nginx config there's an alias for the dir to serve images | 20:47 |
lbt | answer ... I didn't move the images to the http://releases.merproject.org/ machine | 20:47 |
lbt | no, as in I just wiped the LV with the image on it | 20:48 |
phaeron | ok, I am confused now | 20:48 |
lbt | I just rebuilt the IMG machine? | 20:48 |
lbt | totally | 20:48 |
lbt | mkfs | 20:48 |
lbt | old IMG is gone | 20:48 |
phaeron | ok, yes , does it mean we lost data ? | 20:49 |
lbt | kinda | 20:49 |
lbt | just that file - everything else should be transient | 20:50 |
Sage_ | lbt: any changes in the repomd-pattern-builder api or output? I'm just pondering if I need to rebase nemo stuff? | 20:50 |
phaeron | ok we'll regenerate it soon | 20:50 |
lbt | Sage_: I don't think so - there should be though - needs some tlc I think | 20:50 |
lbt | all changes are upstream | 20:51 |
Sage_ | lbt: ok, I can check the thing tomorrow if that is ok? | 20:51 |
lbt | phaeron: yes | 20:51 |
lbt | Sage_: sure... ty | 20:51 |
Sage_ | k | 20:52 |
lbt | phaeron: is there some css missing ? | 20:53 |
phaeron | lbt: admin or normal ? | 20:54 |
*** niqt_ has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
lbt | frontpage | 20:54 |
phaeron | afaics the interface looks ok (but I can't login) | 20:54 |
lbt | not done ldap yet | 20:54 |
*** apol has joined #mer | 20:55 | |
*** KaIRC has joined #mer | 20:55 | |
*** jotik^^ has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
*** deztructor has quit IRC | 21:03 | |
lbt | ldap done | 21:03 |
*** niqt has joined #mer | 21:04 | |
*** phdeswer has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
lbt | ok imgw1 now | 21:21 |
phaeron | ok hope it goes well | 21:23 |
lbt | can we xfer images back to the img yet? | 21:27 |
phaeron | lbt: no if workers > 1 setup nfs | 21:28 |
*** blauzahl has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
phaeron | ie worker machines or ips | 21:30 |
*** cxl000 has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
lbt | OK | 21:30 |
*** blauzahl has joined #mer | 21:31 | |
phaeron | it's a principle of least effort and max efficiency | 21:32 |
lbt | img.conf - is that needed on worker? | 21:32 |
phaeron | lbt: worker is /etc/skynet/build_image.conf | 21:34 |
*** merder has quit IRC | 21:34 | |
*** rdqfdx has quit IRC | 21:45 | |
*** martianixor has joined #mer | 21:45 | |
*** akuma_ has quit IRC | 21:46 | |
*** akuma__ has joined #mer | 21:46 | |
*** Ian-- has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
lbt | fucking systemd | 22:03 |
lbt | Dear Mr Systemd .... this is a remote VM. Whatever you do - please start sshd. Yours sincerely, David | 22:04 |
*** w00t has quit IRC | 22:06 | |
*** w00t has joined #mer | 22:07 | |
*** w00t has quit IRC | 22:07 | |
*** w00t has joined #mer | 22:07 | |
* jussi smacks lbt around the head with a mashed up jaguar... | 22:12 | |
lbt | it's not mashed up .... yet | 22:13 |
jussi | hehe | 22:13 |
lbt | although the front left tyre does need replacing | 22:13 |
jussi | lbt: btw, we will again be present in the UK this week... | 22:13 |
lbt | coffee is always on... | 22:14 |
jussi | if you feel like a drive up to birmingbham and back :P | 22:14 |
lbt | ah, IVI conf? | 22:14 |
lbt | can you get me in ? | 22:14 |
jussi | actually, we will head down to london way on thurs evening | 22:14 |
jussi | lol, umm, dont think so, its 300€ a pop | 22:14 |
lbt | I asked Matt Jones but not heard back from him | 22:15 |
lbt | wanted to meet up again | 22:15 |
*** jstaniek has joined #mer | 22:15 | |
*** niqt has quit IRC | 22:16 | |
*** yunta has quit IRC | 22:18 | |
lbt | phaeron: 20GB per worker instance in /tmp ?? | 22:24 |
phaeron | not /tmp. new mic uses /var afair | 22:24 |
phaeron | 20Gb / one partition is fine | 22:24 |
lbt | img_tmp for qcow2 ? | 22:25 |
phaeron | oh you're going for nested ? | 22:26 |
lbt | yeah, pretend I'm not | 22:26 |
phaeron | ok .. yes the base qcow2 is sparse 20G , so the overlay could fill upto 20Gb depending on the image | 22:27 |
lbt | use_9p_cache :) | 22:28 |
phaeron | actually mic can sometimes use 20Gb for 10Gb image | 22:28 |
phaeron | anyway | 22:29 |
lbt | we tend to make much smaller ones | 22:29 |
* ljp remembers needing more than 20 gb for meego stuff | 22:29 | |
lbt | big bunny is banned | 22:29 |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
phaeron | lbt: practically for mer / nemo 4G is enough | 22:29 |
lbt | I figured about that | 22:30 |
ljp | using osc for day to day development uses tons of space | 22:30 |
lbt | ljp: yes - are you sharing caches and cleaning up build roots? | 22:30 |
ljp | nope and occasionally :) | 22:31 |
ljp | this was with meego and ******* dev | 22:31 |
lbt | ah | 22:32 |
*** saad_ has joined #mer | 22:36 | |
*** saad_ has quit IRC | 22:37 | |
*** nj3ma has joined #mer | 22:40 | |
*** martianixor has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
*** akuma__ has joined #mer | 22:42 | |
*** arturo182 has joined #mer | 22:43 | |
CosmoHill | cyas | 22:43 |
*** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
*** nj3ma has quit IRC | 22:48 | |
*** yunta_ has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
*** shrikrishna has joined #mer | 23:16 | |
*** metallisto has joined #mer | 23:29 | |
metallisto | where can i download the mer sdk? | 23:29 |
metallisto | the old path from wiki is not available | 23:29 |
*** akuma__ has quit IRC | 23:30 | |
*** jstaniek has quit IRC | 23:33 | |
lbt | metallisto: I broke it | 23:34 |
lbt | we're working on getting a new one out | 23:35 |
metallisto | okay. i want to start to develop for jolla, is the meego sdk a alternative? | 23:35 |
lbt | no | 23:36 |
lbt | there should be something up in a few minutes | 23:36 |
metallisto | thanks | 23:37 |
*** metallisto has quit IRC | 23:48 | |
*** metallisto has joined #mer | 23:48 | |
*** akuma_ has joined #mer | 23:50 | |
metallisto | is the old install guide still working? | 23:57 |
lbt | old? | 23:58 |
metallisto | current | 23:58 |
metallisto | from wiki | 23:58 |
lbt | mainly | 23:58 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!