Tuesday, 2012-08-28

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jjardonlbt: great, building now :)00:44
jjardonlbt: What id the repo with the latest Meego stuff? current core doesnt have to include 1.2 updates (like cmake 2.4)00:45
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Stskeepshttp://linuxonandroid.org/what-is-linuxonandroid/ - i love how some people think that they should be paid to do what people have been doing since 2008ish on NITs. :P05:15
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Stskeepslbt: OK for prerelease05:34
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Stskeepsmorn situ05:38
situGood morning :)05:38
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lpotter-homewow. linux on android. thats amazing.05:58
lpotter-homehow did he ever do that05:58
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alteregoHas something changed with osc? I'm getting "error: Package already exists: %package debuginfo"07:24
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Stskeepshello antero :)07:44
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anterohi stskeeps07:45
Stskeepsantero: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions at any time, feel free to ask07:45
anteroStskeeps: thanks!07:46
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Stskeepsmorn zenvoid07:54
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sivangmorning all08:15
Stskeepsmorn sivang08:15
sivanghey Stskeeps, You don't know how lucky you are to live in a colder place ;)08:16
sivangbut this morning there were some clouds , yay08:16
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* sivang is at the office so is just going to lurk for a while08:16
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dcthangStskeeps when wayland takes into use in Mer?08:19
Stskeepsdcthang: well, it's sortof there already, but i'm working to productise it a bit08:19
dcthangok, Do you have roadmap for that?:)08:20
Stskeepsno, but help welcome to kick it off better08:20
Stskeepsthe idea is: mer + busybox + qt5 + wayland, first on virtualbox with llvmpipe and mesa, with qml compositor08:21
Stskeepsand have that as a base development environment08:21
dcthangok, sounds a good plan. Where can I take a look at the development of them?08:22
dcthangMer wiki or somewhere  Stskeeps?08:22
Stskeepsit's a bit all over the place atm but wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr is direction08:22
Stskeepsalso, systemd user sessions08:22
dcthangok then08:26
Stskeepsis old prototype08:27
Stskeepsthe stalling issue is known08:27
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dcthangok, checking ...08:32
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rozhkovhas anybody seen this error before08:40
rozhkovsb2d: Lua interpreter PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (cannot open /home/rozhkov/.sbrules: No such file or directory)08:40
Stskeepslbt: ^08:40
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alteregorozhkov: echo 'use_outside_path("/parentroot")' > ~/.sbrules08:53
lbtyeah, that should be in the default ruleset - I must have forgotten and it works for me as it's in my ~/.sbrules08:55
lbtrozhkov: I saw a bug comment about wiki ?08:56
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lbtpasswd not working?08:56
Stskeepslbt: also, prerelease please08:56
rozhkovalterego: thanks! it helped08:57
rozhkovlbt: nope, can't login08:57
lbtStskeeps: sure08:57
lbtrozhkov: are you using your bz short account name?08:57
rozhkovlbt: i used my email as a username08:57
lbtrozhkov: OK, use the account name08:58
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alteregolbt: tbf, if that file is empty it gets rid of the error and seems to work fine.08:58
alteregolbt: so the error is probably just with the looking for that file.08:58
lbtalterego: ah - ty08:58
lbtmy lua-foo is not strong08:58
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Stskeepsfuck, can't work with people drilling in walls09:08
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faenilStskeeps, can't sleep with people drilling in walls! :P09:10
faenilmorning merians :)09:10
Bostikprerelease? new gcc? ;)09:10
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lbtBostik: I think so09:11
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Stskeepsno new gcc09:12
Stskeepsjust systemd09:12
Stskeepsfixing x86 and others startup problem09:13
Bostikoh.. bugger09:13
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lbtoh, my MDS failed on a gcc pull yesterday and it looked like it had changed during the pull - nm09:14
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SageANNOUNCEMENT: Nemo Mobile Status sync meeting starting in 8 minutes at  #mer-meeting09:52
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* sivang wonders where is pharoen10:13
sivangah, right10:14
sivangSage: we seem to work good together, and we're original from the same continent ;)10:15
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sroedalStskeeps: are you thinking about making a more full featured wayland compositor than QML compositor? :)10:17
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Stskeepssroedal: nah, start out with qml compositor :P10:28
Stskeepsi'm not a terribly big fan of weston personally (apologies to anybody working on it), reminds me a little too much of mcompositor10:29
pqgood thing I've never even heard of mcompositor before :-D10:30
SageStskeeps: /home/nemo/.xsession-errors is gone, how can I get it back?10:31
Stskeepspq: x11 egl/gles compositor10:31
StskeepsSage: add -l to the systemd service file for uxlaunch10:32
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Sageuxlaunch --help doesn't show it :)10:33
Stskeepsit should10:33
Sageit doesn't10:33
Sagegrr :)10:34
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Stskeepslbt: what stage is prerelease at?11:05
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lbtstill churning11:06
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Stskeepslibmeegotouch is so fun to watch building11:43
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sivangStskeeps: you mean 'not' ;) ?11:50
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: pong12:46
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: hi12:46
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so made great progress using ics and libhybris12:46
StskeepsChickenCutlass: oh? :)12:46
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: but running into a big problem12:46
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: can not get glCompileShader to work12:47
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: always segfaults12:47
Stskeepsgot gdb on it?12:47
lbtpre release done; obs import happening12:47
Stskeepswhat function pointer? use /proc/<pid>/maps to see where12:47
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok let me do that.12:47
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: the biggest issues right now is 1) the android TLS errno is right in the middle of a critical thread control block in a thread12:50
Stskeepsfor glibc12:50
Stskeepswhich is pretty annoying12:50
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Stskeepswe can fix that fairly early for app side but doing it in bionic may be more fun12:50
Stskeeps(errno is a define for (*__errno()))12:51
sivangChickenCutlass: what are you trying to accomplish with ics and libhybris?12:54
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I see.12:54
ChickenCutlasssivang: trying it out.  If we can use Android dirvers from SOC's would be a big win12:54
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: you were able to use shaders in your demo using gingerbread. right?12:55
StskeepsChickenCutlass: right12:55
faenillbt, how much time do I have to send a new qmlgallery release to obs?12:55
lbtfaenil: not aware of any deadline12:56
faenilok, read you were importing :D12:57
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Stskeepsmorn gandhijee_12:57
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StskeepsKypeli_Nemo: success?13:02
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Kypeli_Nemorunning nemo on n95013:02
Kypeli_Nemolooks cool!13:02
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sivangKypeli_Nemo: yes, it is very nice13:03
Kypeli_Nemoso this is still running mcompositor?13:05
Stskeepssadly the wayland+qt5 story in mer is a bit in progress13:05
Kypeli_NemoI notice. loading glitches13:05
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Kypeli_Nemobut it's very responsive which is nice13:07
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Stskeepsuntil recently we had a massive tearing/slowness issue on n950/n913:07
Stskeepsit turned out that we had old configuration from older n950, that said x=856 instead of x=85413:08
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Stskeepswhich caused the frames to be blitted and not flipped to screen13:08
Stskeepscausing massive tearing13:08
Kypeli_Nemo2 pixels are all it takes...13:08
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Stskeepswell, it just assessed that it was "not fullscreen"13:09
Stskeepsand then went to go to fallbakc13:09
Kypeli_Nemois battery indicator broken or am I really soon again out of battery?13:10
Stskeepsi thought that was fixed13:11
Stskeepsmaybe not on n95013:11
Kypeli_Nemowohoo, hw keyboard working too. nice!13:11
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Stskeepswell, we didn't exactly have VKB at fist13:12
Stskeepsso that was fixed very fast ;)13:12
Kypeli_Nemoaah :)13:12
Stskeepsthere is qt5 in repos, but only alpha113:12
faenilKypeli_Nemo, hey :) welcome ;) yeah battery indicator isn't working yet13:12
Stskeepsworking on beta13:12
faenilon N95013:12
Kypeli_Nemofaenil, hi! thanks!13:13
faenilnp :)13:13
Kypeli_Nemofaenil, next I ought to look for a bug for myself13:14
faenilStskeeps, about the broken battery indicator, don't know if you've read the news :)13:14
faenilhttps://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53 read last but one comment13:14
MerbotBug 53: task, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, Battery contextkit plugin needs to be implemented for N950/N9's BME13:14
Stskeepsi'm a little distanced from nemo development these days, got more than enough in mer13:15
faenilyeah I can imagine, but hey :) a Nokia guy who was working on bme will probably fix it once and for all :D13:15
Stskeepswell, you can only fix it to some extent13:16
Stskeepsie, with public info13:16
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faenilyeah, but still, experience in the field means a lot :)13:16
faenilhe could just make w00t's openbme plugin work better :)13:16
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: were you able to get any useful info from gdb?  The core file I get is useless.13:18
StskeepsChickenCutlass: does the ip start with 0xffff ?13:19
Stskeepsinstruction pointer, that is13:19
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: yes13:19
Stskeepsokay, then it's one of the unimplemented pthread instructions13:20
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: in hooks.c13:21
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: do you know which one I need to implement13:21
Stskeepsyes, one of the ones we're not listing, i think13:21
Stskeepswell, the log should give you a pretty good guess, it shouldsay pthread_* something -something13:21
Stskeepssomething being a number13:21
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: the logcat?13:22
Stskeepshmm, no13:22
Stskeepsmaybe i didn't commit that log thing upstream13:22
lbthttp://www.merproject.org/activity is now sanely ordered too13:22
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: oh, I see, the list in hooks.c.  The ones that do not have my_ are the ones we need to impelemt?13:23
StskeepsChickenCutlass: look further down, strstr( something , "pthread" ) ?13:24
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok, so I get this. http://pastebin.com/mVf69teV13:27
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I see a  bunch of pthread_13:27
faenilholy crap. just received a phone call from RIM asking for feedback about BB10 programming tools...wow! I'm amazed13:28
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: ok, and instruction pointer == ?13:29
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/RhRL65HW13:30
Stskeepsok, print (int)0xfffffffc13:30
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: -413:31
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so the setstacksize13:31
Stskeepsso probably setstacksize or attr_destroy13:31
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so do I just stub them out like you did with the other my_ ones?13:31
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Stskeepsyeah, that's one way of doing it13:32
Stskeepslo simosagi :)13:32
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: what would be the other way :)13:33
StskeepsChickenCutlass: not stub them as such but implement them somehow :P13:33
Stskeepsstubbing should be fine for setstacksize13:33
simosagiI may need a bit of help with sb2. shmerl in TMO asked to try mozilla build in Nemo. I'd like to try but I have some issues13:34
Stskeepssimosagi: ask away :)13:34
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok, thanks for your help13:34
StskeepsChickenCutlass: regarding those -1 -2 -3 -4 remember that sometimes it might round off to 4 due to alignment13:34
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok, at least it will tell me where to look.13:35
simosagithe main issue is that I have SDK installed with nemo rootfs, but everything is owned by root so when i run a 'sb2 -m sdk-install -R zypper refresh' command, it fails as it cannot write13:35
Stskeepssimosagi: there's a comment about chown -R 'ing13:35
simosagiAm I supposed to chown the whole rootfs to my building user?13:35
sonachStskeeps: hey, just view the log, so ChickenCutlass is trying to run Mer over ICS ?13:36
simosagioookey :)13:36
Stskeepssonach: he's working on libhybris for ICS version, yeah13:36
sivangChickenCutlass: uh-ha, so we'd have many more SoC's supported for free13:37
sivangChickenCutlass: to run mer on them13:37
Stskeepsthat's the idea..13:37
ChickenCutlasssivang: working on it13:37
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so stubbing did not work. *** glibc detected *** ./test_egl: free(): invalid pointer: 0x44518470 ***13:38
sivangStskeeps: neat, ChickenCutlass : I have an HTC desire HD for testing13:38
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simosagiStskeeps: I'll try it again now. Yesterday I got into some other problems, so I thought that I chown'd too much :)13:39
StskeepsChickenCutlass: well, i call that progress..13:40
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I narrowed it down to the attr_init.  Attempting to implement like you did the others.13:40
simosagiStskeeps: ok here is the point. While doing the 'sb2 -m sdk-install -R zypper update', most packages got installed, but now installing uxlaunch-0.64-1.9 rpm gives some "Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager."13:47
Stskeepssimosagi: ok, so some chroot check fails13:47
simosagiStskeeps: what is rpm doing with d-bus? (btw, host is a Ubuntu machine)13:49
Stskeepssimosagi: systemd13:49
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simosagiStskeeps: oh, btw I see that systemd has been just installed ok13:50
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simosagiStskeeps: the following package (uxlaunch) fails13:51
Stskeepssimosagi: yes13:51
Stskeepsbut uxlaunch is a systemd service13:51
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simosagiStskeeps: how do I proceed from here? Should I try to launch nemo systemd somehow?13:56
Stskeepssimosagi: report it as a bug13:56
simosagiStskeeps: ok! ...but who's the guilty one?13:57
Stskeepssimosagi: probably sb213:57
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simosagiStskeeps: all right. And I guess there is no other way for now to go on testing the mozilla build?13:59
Stskeepsmake a new image?13:59
simosagiOh, yes I can try with some other image13:59
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simosagiStskeeps: there is already MER#547, created 20/8, High/Major, currently not assigned14:03
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: sorry to keep bugging you.  Some progress but now getting stuck with a sig abort.  Any ideas would be awesome. http://pastebin.com/YvTBrp1E14:37
StskeepsChickenCutlass: you're not bugging, you're contributing :)14:37
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok,  I don't like being a pest.  so thanks14:38
StskeepsChickenCutlass: can you install debug symbols for your libc?14:38
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: sure14:38
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: that helps a little bit probabl14:39
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/L7RrZd4214:40
Stskeepsokay, so some kind of bad implementation of attr side?14:41
Stskeepsshow me the attr side?14:41
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: the code I wrote you mean?14:42
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: let me paste14:42
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: very fancy :) http://pastebin.com/rWfjc8MP14:43
Stskeepsbrb food and tv series (sorry)14:46
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pqChickenCutlass, weren't you supposed to stub those out?14:50
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ChickenCutlasspq: I think so, not my area of expertise.  Not sure quite what to do14:51
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pqstub means no implementation, and you are instead calling the glibc pthread functions, which might not even have the same definition of pthread_attr_t :-)14:52
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ChickenCutlasspq: I see. I think I tried just the stub.  I.E no impl in the table.14:53
pqyou need it in the table, otherwise the function pointer is invalid14:54
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pqyou need an empty function there14:54
ChickenCutlasspq: right.  trying it again that way.14:54
pqor better yet, a function that prints it's argument and name, and does nothing else14:54
pqfrom those prints you can then decide whether you need a real implementation, or could it work by luck with only stubs14:55
ChickenCutlasspq: I see14:56
alteregoStskeeps: do we have a new mer release yet?14:56
pqwhen I last time looked, the libhybris pthread stuff was pretty wild (which was quite some time ago), so I'm not surprised that simply calling glibc pthread functions fails14:56
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Stskeepsalterego: yes, subscribe to mer-general@15:03
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Stskeepswell, new prerlease15:03
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timophyo, Stskeeps15:22
timophare you available the 8th noonish?15:23
timophI'm thinking of having a IRC Q&A as a part of the Mer introduction I'm giving in the hackday15:23
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timophhmmh. need to go. bbl15:25
Stskeepstimoph: shoould be15:31
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Stskeepsalso, when am i not on irc15:31
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lbtalterego: or watch the atom feed at http://www.merproject.org/activity15:42
alteregodo we have one for nemo? :)15:42
lbtI see no reason Nemo events can't go through that15:43
lbtif you look at the source there's an embedded XML event of xmlns="http://xml.merproject.org/ns/event/v115:44
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: did stubbing make any difference?15:49
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: made a difference, but not a good one.  Still crashing.15:49
Stskeepsor got a null pointer issue instead15:49
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: let me paste the stack after stubbing.15:49
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so this is with just the functions stubbed, no impl by me.15:51
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/WSK1qUZM15:51
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: when I say stubbed, I mean just added to the table.15:52
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* Stskeeps waits for chrome to avoid trashing swap..15:52
Stskeepsand show me the stubs?15:52
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/RXTKkKD415:53
Stskeepsah, i meant to make my_* stubs15:54
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so I tried that as well.15:54
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: just do not know what to put in them.15:54
Stskeepsi have an idea but i'll look at it in a bit15:55
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: awesome15:55
Stskeepsthere's people massively drilling all over the apartment block, so i haven't been able to focus that much15:56
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: you need some noise canceling headphones15:57
Stskeepswhich is a challenge when working from home15:57
faenilStskeeps, still drilling? :/15:57
StskeepsChickenCutlass: it's #1 on my list if this continues tomorrow15:57
StskeepsChickenCutlass: long story short, the issue is that android's pthread_attr_t isn't same size on glibc and android15:58
Stskeepsso we abuse the pthread_attr_t to place a pointer to a malloc'ed attr from glibc15:58
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I see.15:59
Stskeepslike we do in the other my_* ones15:59
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so I tried that.  Must not have done it correctly15:59
Stskeepsokay, show me the code?15:59
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/6DxDr4tN16:01
Stskeepsright, and _destroy etc too16:02
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: right, let me add it back again.  It did not work, but let me get the stack.16:02
pqChickenCutlass, FYI, http://pastebin.com/RXTKkKD4 does the same as http://pastebin.com/rWfjc8MP did.16:03
ChickenCutlasspq: right16:04
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok16:06
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/h9AtQBc016:06
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: this is with all the attr functions my_...16:06
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: and the gdb stack trace16:06
Stskeepsah, yeah16:07
Stskeepsthat code is broken :)16:08
Stskeepsi'll fix it in a bit16:08
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: obviously lol16:09
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Kypeli_What's the root's password to get into a Mer deivce (or other user credentials?) over SSH?16:14
StskeepsChickenCutlass: http://pastebin.com/Vbny12nh16:15
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: ok. let me try.16:16
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/eKZRihdG16:19
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Stskeepsok, and show me your hooks table?16:20
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://pastebin.com/fgtaRtK916:21
Stskeepsso far so good..16:22
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Stskeepsgtg for an hour16:25
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pqStskeeps, btw what's all this casting for? (pthread_attr_t *) *(int *) __attr16:33
pqha, stupid me, but why int and not uintptr_t?16:34
Stskeepscould be that too16:35
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so, I got further.  By implementing my_pthread_create16:35
Stskeepswe didn't have that before?16:36
Stskeepsdamn, i need to send my changes upstream16:36
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: no.  the glv2 sample running now!!16:36
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: :)16:36
StskeepsChickenCutlass: \o/16:36
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I will take one now16:37
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: where can I send the video?16:41
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: youtube? dunno17:10
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: right ok, I will find somewhere.17:10
Stskeepsi used to like bit.ly17:10
* Stskeeps forgets the name of the service he used17:11
StskeepsChickenCutlass: anyhow, i'm happy to see it work - OMAP4, right?17:13
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: yes, so I just tried it on an HTC OneX and more problems pthread stuff not implemented.17:13
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: htc one x is an snapdragon17:14
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: in the states at least.17:14
pqdid you yet determine if there's any difference between gingerbread and JB bionics that concern libhybris?17:14
ChickenCutlassso I backed down to ICS17:15
Stskeepspq: there's a high probability i screwed the tags at least for linker17:15
ChickenCutlassand I built the ics linker.c to be sure17:15
Stskeepsi'm happy to see that we validated libhybris approach on another device too though17:15
ChickenCutlasscertainly works17:15
ChickenCutlassjust a bit fragile right now17:15
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: nice work17:15
pqStskeeps, oh you mean the git revision I couldn't find? ok17:16
Stskeepsyeah, i think it's all fragile atm but it's promising17:16
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pqStskeeps, yeah, I've been occupied by Wayland for now17:16
mikhas"for now", have you done much else for the last 8 months? =p17:17
Stskeepspq: i got hijacked by systemd user sessions, much fun17:17
mikhas(yes I am following your blog on my n9)17:17
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timophStskeeps: good. plenty of time to plan that anyway17:18
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwftlGkBvzA&feature=youtu.be17:18
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ChickenCutlassStskeeps: on a glaxy nexus17:18
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: excellent :)17:19
Lava_Crofti sold my galaxy nexus to get a n917:19
Lava_Croftbest trade ever17:19
pqmikhas, I was poking libhyrbis stuff a couple of days recently :-P17:19
pqand lots of android cr... stuff17:19
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mikhasand then came libhybris and you realized you just have to wait17:20
mikhasor something like that17:20
pqnaa, I wanna kick it forward and see how it flies17:20
mikhaseven  better17:21
pqChickenCutlass, haha, cool. I need to replicate that one day.17:22
ChickenCutlassfun stuff17:22
StskeepsChickenCutlass: feel free to send patches to me as well17:22
Stskeepscontribution model is signed-off-by, if you're wondering17:22
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: yes.  I will do that now.  I want to clean it up.  Start with a fresh git pull.17:22
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StskeepsSage: mic doesn't complain when i add the same repo twice.17:36
Stskeepsie, repo url.17:36
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Stskeepsevening fk_lx :)17:42
crevetor_Guys, I have a c++ question : when you include  a C header file in a c++ program what namespace is it associated with ?17:43
Stskeeps:: typically?17:44
fk_lxgood evening Stskeeps17:44
SageStskeeps: well, I don't think anything complains about that.17:45
crevetor_it'S weird cause I have other classes including the same header file and not complaining about anything and this one says it can't find one of the defines in this scope17:46
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: so I created a branch up on github. https://github.com/ChickenCutlass/libhybris17:47
StskeepsChickenCutlass: thanks17:47
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: I committed my changes17:47
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StskeepsChickenCutlass: thanks17:55
ChickenCutlassStskeeps: thank you17:55
gandhijee_hello Stskeeps18:09
gandhijee_hows things18:10
Stskeepsgandhijee_: they're good, working on systemd user sessions18:10
Stskeepsmuch fun18:10
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Stskeepsevening kallela :)18:13
kallelaevening! :)18:14
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Destructohello all. i have a cruz t100 tablet. http://www.velocitymicro.com/T100.php its very problematic. browser crashes alot, very hard to do anything on it. i would love to somehow install a new OS or something like it23:42
wmaronewell, best of luck to you :)23:49
Destructoha. ok23:49
wmaronemer is just an OS core, you would have to perform the harwdare adaptation for the device23:49
wmaronewhich basically means getting a kernel, 2.6.32 or newer, with the drivers necessary for the hardware23:50
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