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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:45 |
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| dm8tbr | moaning | 06:48 |
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| Stskeeps | http://avherald.com/ is not a good site to read if you are afraid of flying, basically, shit happenens every single day | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:00 |
| Bostik | it pays to remember that the single most dangerous place in the world is "home" | 07:02 |
| Bostik | lots of death, carnage and other maladies hit people there | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 07:03 |
| Paimen | swimming pools kills more kids than guns, and still there is no restrictions for swimming pools | 07:03 |
| Paimen | just random tought about dangers in home | 07:04 |
| Bostik | and life is carsinogenic | 07:04 |
| Bostik | the longer you are exposed to it, all the more probable it is that you get cancer | 07:05 |
| Paimen | I think it was some finnish punk singer that said. Life is STD that leads to certain death | 07:05 |
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| Stskeeps | there's nothing like chasing race conditions. | 07:08 |
| Paimen | well I like more hunting timing bugs that occurs only on real hardware with certain workload and adding debugging code affects to timings | 07:09 |
| dm8tbr | Paimen: that's actually a movie title of a well known polish movie | 07:14 |
| Paimen | dm8tbr: ok might be | 07:14 |
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| dm8tbr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_as_a_Fatal_Sexually_Transmitted_Disease | 07:14 |
| iekku | finnish punk mentioned | 07:15 |
| iekku | :P | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | and one shows up | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:15 |
| iekku | :D | 07:15 |
| Paimen | dm8tbr: well my quote is from 90's so it is just thing that is invented in many places | 07:15 |
| dm8tbr | possible | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: will you send the triage mail during today? | 07:16 |
| iekku | yes | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | just to know when you wrap up your vacation | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:17 |
| iekku | and host triages tomorrow | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 07:17 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, and starting to stop vacation already | 07:17 |
| iekku | my parents called me before 9 am and wake me up... "it's your last vacation day, don't sleap over it"... | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 07:18 |
| Paimen | my wife decided it is good day to start last part of renovation today | 07:19 |
| Paimen | still trying to stall it by sipping morning coffee really slowly | 07:19 |
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| _av500_ | stall it by falling into the paint bucket | 08:02 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:25 |
| rc_ | morning lbt | 08:26 |
| rc_ | how's it going? | 08:26 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: running createrepo | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | running rsync to repo.ci.merproject.org at Sun Aug 12 10:36:56 2012 | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/Core:/0.20120816.0.0.3.10:" (in repos) failed: No space left on device (28) | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | *** Skipping any contents from this failed directory *** | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1042) [sender=3.0.7] | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | publish failed: rsync failed: 5888 | 08:37 |
| lbt | erp | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | you'll investigate? | 08:39 |
| lbt | which machine? | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | well, repo.ci is the one that has the errors | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | be is fine | 08:39 |
| lbt | yeah - it has no /data partition | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | where is repo.ci anyway? | 08:40 |
| lbt | p5 | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | i meant vm | 08:41 |
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| lbt | the vm is on phost5 | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | which vm is it.. | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:43 |
| * Stskeeps passes lbt coffee | 08:43 | |
| lbt | the repo vm is called "repo" ... | 08:43 |
| * lbt passes Stskeeps coffee | 08:43 | |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:43 |
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| lbt | moving data | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | k | 08:57 |
| alterego | Suppose I should pack for tomorrow. | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | probably an idea | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | i've made it into an art to pack in ~4 hours to go anywhere | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:01 |
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| alterego | Yeah, I don't need to take much tbh. | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | remember usb cable, deodorant | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | that's what i forgot last time | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | not a happy camper. | 09:01 |
| alterego | My bag already has usb cables stuffed in it :D | 09:02 |
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| alterego | I have so many of them I tactically leave them in pockets of jeans and bags :P | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | so, guantamo it is? | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | tanamo, that is | 09:02 |
| alterego | heh | 09:03 |
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| alterego | Not sure whether to bring an N900, | 09:06 |
| lbt | hmm - need a mechanism to alert me when a long job on a remote machine in a screen in a minimised window finishes... | 09:07 |
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| alterego | lbt: I managed a while back to hook up screen to talk to the freedesktop notification banner stuff in gnome | 09:09 |
| alterego | Which should work in unity. | 09:10 |
| alterego | Forgotten how I did it though | 09:10 |
| lbt | *g* | 09:10 |
| alterego | There was some serious voodoo | 09:10 |
| * alterego configures his three new domain names. | 09:10 | |
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| lbt | screen is on remote machine too | 09:11 |
| Bostik | lbt: could you just send (echo?) the control sequence to change window title when the job is done? | 09:11 |
| alterego | lbt: yes, that's exactly how my setup is. | 09:11 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: look at tavu, that works nice for me | 09:11 |
| alterego | Bostik: doesn't really work as you'd need the window to be raised. | 09:11 |
| lbt | hmm Konsole has "monitor for silence" | 09:11 |
| alterego | lbt: you should just do "job; echo \b" :) | 09:12 |
| Bostik | alterego: good point, and we'd need something that works across different desktop envs and/or wm's :) | 09:13 |
| lbt | Bostik: yeah something like that may hook it - looking at konsole, then tavu | 09:13 |
| alterego | Say I have three fqdns, and I want to have all three point to the same website (I use vhost) I've setup all the www.* to point to the right IP and I'm about to just do a couple of redirect rules in the non-main vhost configs. | 09:13 |
| alterego | Is there a better way? | 09:13 |
| lbt | sounds sensible | 09:14 |
| Bostik | point CNAMEs for the two dormant domains to your primary? | 09:14 |
| alterego | Bostik: that sounds possibly easier. | 09:14 |
| alterego | So I can do a name alias /me gives it a go | 09:15 |
| alterego | I wonder if this will work with apache vhosting though .. | 09:16 |
| alterego | I suppose even if it doesn't it's better because they can track the IP of the main domain. Which would be less hassle if/when that changes. | 09:17 |
| lbt | if you use the cname approach then (depending on the app) the website can 'switch' to the target as that's what will the vhost will think it is (I think) | 09:18 |
| alterego | Ah, "ServerAlias" | 09:18 |
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| alterego | So use ServerName for primary then I can setup ServerAlias with a list of secondary domains. | 09:19 |
| alterego | Yup, that works :) | 09:20 |
| alterego | Though, maybe the redirect would be better .. | 09:20 |
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| alterego | Okay, using a mixture, I can get redirects working with just to VirtualHost sections :) | 09:23 |
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| alterego | http://www.hacking-mobility.com/ :) | 09:31 |
| alterego | better than my blogger URL .. | 09:31 |
| Bostik | ew, this doesn't look nice: 210.185.110.212.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 212-110-185-210.no-reverse-dns-set.bytemark.co.uk. | 09:34 |
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| alterego | Hrm, yeah, need to setup reverse | 09:35 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning Ionakka | 09:39 |
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| kallaballa | Stskeeps: hi. the tvout issued does indeed seem to be a kernel driver problem. though i cant tell for sure because i don't have any reference on how to drive tvout. | 09:47 |
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| Stskeeps | kallaballa: walk me through how you try to enable it? | 09:48 |
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| kallaballa | cat /sys/kernel/debug/gpio shows: (tvout_sel ) out lo | 09:48 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: repo is sorted now | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 09:49 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: thank you | 09:50 |
| fk_lx | hi eveyrone :-) | 09:50 |
| lbt | np | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | morn fk_lx | 09:51 |
| fk_lx | *everyone | 09:51 |
| lbt | hey fk_lx | 09:51 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 09:51 |
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| lbt | morning phaeron | 09:51 |
| phaeron | lbt: hello | 09:51 |
| kallaballa | in rx51.c: gpio_request(RX51_TVOUT_SEL_GPIO, "tvout_sel"); and gpio_set_value(RX51_TVOUT_SEL_GPIO, 1); | 09:52 |
| kallaballa | i also tried removing all relevant modules and exporting the gpio to userspace to set it manually. but that didn't work out. | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: did you use xrandr? | 09:53 |
| kallaballa | yes | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | ok, what specific command? | 09:53 |
| kallaballa | the output is enabled by default. i also tried playing arround with settings | 09:53 |
| kallaballa | xrandr --output TV --auto | 09:54 |
| kallaballa | and | 09:54 |
| kallaballa | xrandr --output TV --mode 800x480 | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | how about --on ? | 09:54 |
| kallaballa | hehe.. tried it, but its not a xrandr switch | 09:55 |
| Ionakka | Stskeeps: morning \o/ | 09:55 |
| kallaballa | i also tried comparing maemo implementation with the nemo adaption. but it's kinda hard to judge without knowing the hardware. | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: hm, i could swear i've had it working | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: and i presume you removed the notv patch? | 09:57 |
| kallaballa | it looks like it's really close to working. | 09:57 |
| kallaballa | Stskeeps: yes | 09:57 |
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| Stskeeps | not sure then | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb1 ? | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | and friends | 09:59 |
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| kallaballa | i guess it's time for printk spraying | 10:04 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: ping | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: plonk | 10:22 |
| phaeron | how's it going | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: sofarsogood | 10:22 |
| phaeron | ok cool | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | but it's obvious our CI obs is suboptimally set up | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | and fakeobs is dead slow too | 10:23 |
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| phaeron | I haven't looked at how fakeobs sends big files to the remote obs , but it might need some trickery to make it faster | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | the problem is already in the _meta | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | so not so much on file transfer side | 10:30 |
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| phaeron | you mean it takes long to send back the meta ? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | like file listing, etc | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | so there's paths to be optimized | 10:34 |
| phaeron | yes | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | i can pretty much see i won't be able to change over CI to this today, but at least i will confirm the building blocks work.. | 10:35 |
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| Stskeeps | as it would be bad practice to switch processes to something we know is acting way too slowly, so | 10:37 |
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| Stskeeps | (which isnt copyprj, just FWIW) | 10:41 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: so the bottleneck is slowness of copying from fakeobs | 10:41 |
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| Stskeeps | well | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | more like looking up metadata | 10:42 |
| phaeron | aha for the prjlink | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | getting data for project 'Core:0.20120816.0.0.5:armv7l' from http://be.in.merproject.org:5352 | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | takes 40+ mins | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | which != good | 10:42 |
| phaeron | ouch | 10:42 |
| phaeron | it didn't take that long here .. | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | so the setup is a bit suboptimal atm | 10:43 |
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| Stskeeps | public/source/Core:armv7l/tmpwatch?expand=1&withlinked HTTP/1.1" 200 - | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | can take 1-3 seconds each | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | and * that with schedulers | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | and lag between accepting requests | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | so it's not very efficient | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: any good ideas where i would place fakeobs if outside be? | 10:47 |
| lbt | same phost is good so the LAN goes over a virtual switch | 10:48 |
| lbt | so I just want to get this event notifier sorted, then get an SDK released. Once that's done we can take a bit of time over moving VMs and redoing some LAN config | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:50 |
| lbt | people could usefully help by testing 6.0.2 pre-release of SDK | 10:50 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | mail to list and ask for testing? | 10:51 |
| vgradetab | crevetor: hi | 10:52 |
| lbt | I was thinking of faster turnaround | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:52 |
| situ | Stskeeps: Hi | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | morn situ | 10:53 |
| situ | Does it look fine http://review.merproject.org/#change,754 ? | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | situ: looks fine | 10:53 |
| situ | Ok, thanks! | 10:53 |
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| kallaballa | Stskeeps: uff.. i got completely distraced by sound/soc/rx51.c but the code is obsolete. | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | kallaballa: yes, the code got updated a lot later | 12:16 |
| kallaballa | but now i've got the solution: amixer -D hw:0 set 'Jack Function' 'TV-OUT' | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | works? | 12:16 |
| kallaballa | that way it's possible to manually set the jack to tvout which makes board-rx51-video do the rest. | 12:17 |
| kallaballa | hehe yes | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | so its related to ohmd blowing up | 12:17 |
| kallaballa | i think all that is missing is having an input driver for the jack event and setting it via the soundcard | 12:17 |
| kallaballa | i'm not familiar with ohmd | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | it decides device behaviour on stimuli | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | ie, jack plug in, etc | 12:18 |
| kallaballa | oh ic | 12:18 |
| kallaballa | well.. Xorg tries to use /dev/input/event4 with evdev... maybe it's getting in the way | 12:19 |
| kallaballa | i'll have a look | 12:19 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: hey | 12:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: is systemd would be mandatory in mer? and only one option? | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes its quite mandatory | 12:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | =\ | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of work to replace it | 12:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | why to choose it for the first place | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | what do you have against it? | 12:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | i hate combines :) | 12:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: just tested mdev instead of udev | 12:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | it works :P | 12:44 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: if you interested https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss | 12:46 |
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| Stskeeps | .. not a terribly good argument | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | look at the sysv stuff we had before | 12:47 |
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| alterego | If anyone is interested: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/User:Tswindell/N9%28XX%29_TV_Output | 13:51 |
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| Venemo_N9 | hi | 14:02 |
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| burdickjp | July of last year Intel put out a paper called "Using Meego with platforms based on Atom Z670 and SM35 chipset". I'm curious if MER has continued development in this direction, as I have a Dell tablet with that exact hardware, and am wanting to run Plasma Active on it | 14:22 |
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| Stskeeps | burdickjp: try boot nemo mobile on it and see if it boots | 14:24 |
| burdickjp | Stskeeps:I will. I previously tried Kubuntu-Active, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Arch linux, and Chakra. Could not get much support in those communities; this chipset combination seems to be an anomaly in the market. | 14:26 |
| burdickjp | I'm getting Win7 up on a small partition on the thing so that it's marginally useful when I do need it. I'll give Nemo a try. | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | get me an url to that paper? | 14:26 |
| burdickjp | can I link it directly? | 14:27 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 14:28 |
| burdickjp | I can't get a clean URL for some reason, you can google "Meego Z670" and it's the first one to pop up. | 14:29 |
| burdickjp | I apologize. I'm not sure why firefox isn't giving me a clean URL | 14:31 |
| Bostik | burdickjp: google's silly jump url? | 14:31 |
| burdickjp | yep | 14:31 |
| Bostik | there was an extension to disable that one, I think | 14:32 |
| burdickjp | Bostik: I'll look for that | 14:32 |
| burdickjp | in the whitepaper it points to a meego image from the 1.1.99 repo called "meego-tablet-ia32-oaktrail". I'm unfamiliar with meego. Could there be anything in the repo or in that image which would be specific to it, and would allow optimization for this hardware? | 14:37 |
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| burdickjp | If I'm looking at this right, Nemo is an ARM image. I don't think I need that. | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | nemo has x86 too so | 14:42 |
| Venemo_N9 | burdickjp, there are x86 images to | 14:42 |
| burdickjp | found it. downloading | 14:44 |
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| burdickjp | once I get this on a thumbdrive and booting, what am I looking for log wise to tell me what it's doing, what's going wrong, etc | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | press tab when it boots up, remove 'quiet' from kernel command line | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | or esc | 14:53 |
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| burdickjp | alright. Nemo boots, gets about 5 seconds into the boot process and screen goes black. On other linuxes I would have to CTRL+ALT+F8 out of X11 and then back into it to get video. Does not seem to work here. | 16:09 |
| burdickjp | I am going to try the original image Intel linked in their paper | 16:11 |
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| Stskeeps | burdickjp: black screen is fairly normal. gave it time, | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | ctrl-alt-f2 rather | 16:19 |
| burdickjp | it sat there for about five minutes | 16:20 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 16:24 |
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| Stskeeps | burdickjp: which item did you take in the boot menu? | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | and did ctrl-alt-f2 work? | 16:27 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: i think i can accept current copyprj and package now, with remark there is probably a race condition now | 16:43 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: great , it has come a long way though :) | 16:44 |
| burdickjp | I apologize. I went back to win7 while waiting for meego to download, and installing office2010 is painfully slow | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | burdickjp: no worries, we | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | 're used to people taking time to answer :) | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | burdickjp: do you know what GPU is in it? | 16:52 |
| burdickjp | GMA 600 | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | should really work fine.. | 16:52 |
| burdickjp | It's trouble on everything else, including Win7 | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | gma500 is usually worse :P | 16:53 |
| burdickjp | It's my understanding that it's the same thing clocked at 400mhz vs 200mhz. I could see why it would perform better, but support I don't think would be any different | 16:53 |
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| burdickjp | my goal with this thing is to get a decent touch interface on it, and Xournal | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | oh urgh | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | i think you're right | 16:54 |
| wmarone__ | heh | 16:54 |
| wmarone__ | and all the cedar trail chips are the same | 16:54 |
| burdickjp | I thought this was oak trail | 16:54 |
| wmarone__ | I'm just noting that intel hasn't improved the situation much | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | burdickjp: can you find me that url for the paper you're referring to? | 16:55 |
| burdickjp | download.intel.com/embedded/processors/userguide/325831.pdf | 16:56 |
| burdickjp | the tablet in question is a Dell Latitude ST | 16:57 |
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| Stskeeps | burdickjp: okay, so, you need to use custom xorg drivers and libGLESv2/EGL | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | and i'm not sure mer's xorg version will work with the ones there were in meego | 17:00 |
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| burdickjp | I'm thinking there are more recent drivers | 17:00 |
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| Stskeeps | maybe | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | on emgd | 17:01 |
| burdickjp | there was an open-source effort recently | 17:01 |
| burdickjp | hmm, this might be older than IEMGD | 17:02 |
| burdickjp | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzY2Mg | 17:02 |
| burdickjp | yeah, that apparently didn't go anywhere | 17:03 |
| burdickjp | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyMjU | 17:03 |
| * Stskeeps blinks at names mentioned | 17:03 | |
| burdickjp | I'm unfamiliar with the situation, or people involved. If I've offended anyone, I apologize. | 17:05 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, no problem | 17:06 |
| Stskeeps | how much of a hacker type are you? | 17:06 |
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| burdickjp | I've been running linux as a primary OS for about 12 years | 17:06 |
| burdickjp | slackware at first, recently Arch | 17:06 |
| burdickjp | I've done an LFS | 17:07 |
| burdickjp | but I'm not a coder | 17:07 |
| burdickjp | unless you count Python | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough - well, if you want, you could probably compile older xorg for mer and use the meego driver | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | s | 17:07 |
| burdickjp | what would the advantage be over running the meego image intel linked? | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | modern system you can keep getting updates for? | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:08 |
| burdickjp | everything except x.org, right? | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 17:08 |
| burdickjp | would you expect that to be better than an IEMGD driver? | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | well emgd isn't really built for higher version x.org anyway | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | same binaries, AFAIK | 17:10 |
| burdickjp | fair enough | 17:10 |
| burdickjp | seems to be the story for all of the GMA 600 drivers | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | or you could just use llvmpipe and not care about the 3d acceleration | 17:10 |
| Stskeeps | for many purposes it's good enough | 17:10 |
| burdickjp | I bought this piece of hardware to take handwritten notes, and annotate PDFs | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | you should be fine then.. | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-08-05.2/images/nemo-handset-i586-vm/nemo-handset-i586-vm-0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-08-05.2.img | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | try boot this image instead | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | and see how far you get | 17:11 |
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| burdickjp | you expect more from the VM image? | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | the vm image uses llvmpipe :) | 17:12 |
| burdickjp | fair enough | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | which is sw rendering | 17:12 |
| burdickjp | It's rather disappointing of Intel to do what it did with the GMA 500/600 | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's not really their fault as such.. it's imagination's | 17:14 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: did you ever try llvmpipe on your joggler? | 17:26 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: no | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | o | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | k | 17:42 |
| lbt | just backdating Mer release info on notify and see I forgot to announce the latest snapshot | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:43 |
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| Stskeeps | hello rgms :) | 18:02 |
| rgms | hello :) | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | rgms: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time, else feel free to hang out :) | 18:10 |
| rgms | Thanks. Not sure if I'm talking to a bot, though :) | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | you're not. i'm just pathologically friendly | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:12 |
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| rgms | great! :) | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | so what brings you here, if i may ask? | 18:13 |
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| rgms | well I used to try Mer on my N900, and I'm wondering if it is running on any handsets currently | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | well, it is, n950 and n9 too | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bit different though now | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | Nemo is a handset UI that uses Mer core | 18:15 |
| rgms | actually I'm considering of buying an N9, too | 18:15 |
| burdickjp | if you don't mind a tangent, what about the harmattan UI? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | burdickjp: well, Nemo is based on harmattan components..sec | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak4T649uDg | 18:17 |
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| burdickjp | I'm a big fan of the N9 UI. I don't think I could bring myself to remove it. | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | well, nemo is more along lines of getting good mobile ui to other devices | 18:26 |
| burdickjp | understandable | 18:29 |
| alterego | We have some harmattan-isms, like we have something that is a good alternative to swipe. | 18:29 |
| alterego | Venemo is working on a more harmattan like and probably even cooler (with widgets) QML based interface to replace our meegotouch home. | 18:29 |
| burdickjp | awesome | 18:31 |
| burdickjp | I would love to see it work on my Tegra2 Motorola handset | 18:32 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: Can I boot MeeGo on N8 ? | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | situ: no | 18:33 |
| situ | Why it's not possible ? | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | situ: the N8 has a locked down bootloader and you cannot flash your own bootloader, kernel or flash image | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | situ: as well as no known existing linux kernel for it | 18:34 |
| situ | :( | 18:35 |
| jonni | but you can enjoy then Symbian on it :) | 18:39 |
| jonni | then=the | 18:39 |
| Paimen | jonni: that is bit harsh | 18:39 |
| fk_lx1 | enjoy while it is still alive :-) | 18:40 |
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| situ | I even dont' like to upgrade to new Symbian versions. | 18:40 |
| situ | Starts draining battery. | 18:40 |
| jonni | well it is pretty decent symbian camera phones out there, if your not able to get hands on the uber camera symbian, then thats the second best. | 18:40 |
| Paimen | yup that is true, and yes Symbian have come long way what it was at S60 times, kind of bummer to not see it go further | 18:41 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: pet shop boys on tv | 20:13 |
| lbt | channel? | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | olympic end | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok, over now | 20:15 |
| lbt | iplayer :) | 20:15 |
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| CosmoHill | it's good | 20:24 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: http://www.merproject.org/activity | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | is the mime type right? | 21:12 |
| lbt | should be an Atom feed | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | i just get a text/plain i think | 21:14 |
| lbt | eventually we can do things like ask for a feed of event type= release or since a certain date | 21:14 |
| lbt | hmm - will check - it's working as a feed in firefox | 21:15 |
| lbt | python's feedparser is also happy | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:16 |
| lbt | I get : Content-Typeapplication/rss+xml | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough | 21:16 |
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| crevetor_ | Grr I don't understand : my Xorg seems to be started but if export DISPLAY and start something it says it can'T connect to X | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | export DISPLAY=:0 ? | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | su nemo ? | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | / su user | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | / su mer ? | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:30 |
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| crevetor_ | hmmm maybe that's it | 21:35 |
| crevetor_ | let me check | 21:35 |
| crevetor_ | ahem | 21:36 |
| crevetor_ | that was it | 21:36 |
| crevetor_ | stupid me | 21:36 |
| crevetor_ | Anyways... Now I can go ahead and understand why PA doesn'T start | 21:36 |
| crevetor_ | thanks Stskeeps | 21:36 |
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| alterego | crevetor_: what hardware are you using N950 per chance? | 21:47 |
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| crevetor_ | alterego: HP Touchpad | 21:59 |
| alterego | Oh, hrm, not sure then, anyway, reallg need to sleep, about 4 hours before I need to be awake again O_O | 22:02 |
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| crevetor_ | erf | 22:04 |
| crevetor_ | alterego: It's alright I fixed it | 22:04 |
| crevetor_ | alterego: Stskeeps was right | 22:04 |
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| crevetor_ | Hev you guys aleady seen something like that : uxlaunch starts Xorg, doesn't realize it has correctly started and tries to start a new one ? | 22:43 |
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