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| tripzero | anyone know how to extract a kernel config if it isn't in /proc ? | 02:54 |
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| tripzero | oh, nevermind | 02:57 |
| tripzero | it's in /proc | 02:57 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: did we have a bug for the connman restarting during upgrade? | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | jbos__: we can do an experimental armv4 port if you'd really like | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | jbos__: but it may require some leg work | 08:16 |
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| Stskeeps | morn rcg | 08:24 |
| rcg | morning :) | 08:24 |
| rcg | how's it going? | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | good, finally ending my semi-vacation tomorrow | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | looking forward to get back hacking :P | 08:26 |
| rcg | great | 08:26 |
| rcg | but aint ending a vacation generally a not so good thing? ;) | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, in this case it was a bit of a working vacation, helping my dad move | 08:26 |
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| rcg | ah, right :) | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | but has been good to be back in my home country for a bit | 08:28 |
| rcg | ah great, that's nice :) | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | (i live abroad, in poland, originally from .dk) | 08:29 |
| rcg | how come you are living abroad, job, family? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | fixed a polish girl's computer while we lived at same dorm and one thing let to another, now married | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:32 |
| rcg | great, that sounds pretty cool :) | 08:32 |
| rcg | btw how is life in poland now that the soccer eurocup has started? | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | we skillfully managed to leave the country before it started | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | i'm expecting to arrive back and my driving course will be (car) armageddon | 08:34 |
| rcg | hehe, right :) | 08:35 |
| lbt | morning all | 08:37 |
| rcg | morning lbt | 08:38 |
| lbt | o/ | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, what devaamo track was it you volunteered for? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | to host | 08:42 |
| lbt | track 1 | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | any news in that area regarding going there? | 08:43 |
| lbt | still not confirmed - I have to fly back monday and need to confirm we can move an appointment for Denises | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | okay, is pretty soon | 08:43 |
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| lbt | flying ryanair so it's not so much a problem - should confirm this am | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:44 |
| * lbt shudders at the though of Ryanair and Stanstead | 08:44 | |
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| Stskeeps | meh, just think of it of flying like cattle and it's fine.. | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:45 |
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| lbt | moo | 08:46 |
| lbt | (that never made sense before... :P ) | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 08:47 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: was ppl OK for MIPS ? | 08:52 |
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| lbt | oops, no, read the wrong line in gerrit | 08:53 |
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| Stskeeps | looks correct, failed to build on mips | 09:01 |
| lbt | yeah - I didn't have time yet to try a local mips build | 09:01 |
| lbt | which involves mips on cobs | 09:02 |
| lbt | or a direct build against CI which is not a good approach | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't, no, but in this case, please do the latter | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | that's what i do | 09:02 |
| lbt | OK | 09:03 |
| lbt | also ... I've done pkgconfig but I'm wondering whether to bother | 09:03 |
| lbt | it has circular issues on glib | 09:04 |
| lbt | however, the next version has an internal copy of glib | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | pkgconfig is a bit nasty to upgrade yeah | 09:04 |
| lbt | so may just be worth skipping a version ... thoughts? | 09:04 |
| lbt | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pkg-config/log/ | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 09:05 |
| lbt | see "Use a bundled glib2 to avoid circular dependency" | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | it really has a full, bundled, glib2? | 09:05 |
| lbt | rly | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | in the past it was a minimal subset | 09:06 |
| lbt | "glib: Remove as many unneeded files as possible" | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | ah, so it doesn't export the glib outside it? | 09:06 |
| lbt | no | 09:06 |
| lbt | purely internal | 09:06 |
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| lbt | but even so ... | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | thats ok then | 09:06 |
| lbt | the changelog stat is funny: -0/+207331 | 09:07 |
| * Stskeeps is sorting through all his email since he left town.. | 09:08 | |
| Stskeeps | libXaw required by xorg-x11-xkb-utils, btw | 09:10 |
| lbt | ew | 09:10 |
| lbt | xev ? | 09:10 |
| lbt | also I want a package DB | 09:11 |
| lbt | looking at CVE, general version stuff and depenency info over the last few days : it's clear that the info is too far from our fingertips | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | mm, i don't disagree | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't call it package db rather, but package overview | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | ie, it has to act on extracted info, not stored | 09:12 |
| lbt | sure ... non-authoritative | 09:12 |
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| lbt | file /usr/include/asm/types.h from install of sb2-tools-armv7hl-inject-1.0-1.43.armv7hl conflicts with file from package kernel-headers-2.6.37-1.2.armv7hl | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | that should not happen | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | where does it? | 09:55 |
| lbt | ah, I'm not in SDK | 09:56 |
| lbt | no sb2install support | 09:56 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: well we have bug that says that connection breaks when updating connman via ssh. But I think that issue still persists with that new 1.1 submit. | 11:55 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: At least on my n950 the connection broke down when I did update but that might have been fluke because of the usb networking as well. Didn't have exopc at the time to test it with. | 11:56 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/spectacle/commit/01d1f5bb79cf10fd93fc72bd4e42eb236aaaa706 the original problem was in spectacle actually where it had a bit bad behaviour on that | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:58 |
| Sage_ | that will be in spectacle 0.25 when that gets out. Need to fix other things for it as well | 11:58 |
| Sage_ | lbt: you should really update spectacle to version 0.24.1 :) | 12:00 |
| lbt | Sage_: currently RMA'ing hard disks | 12:00 |
| lbt | you mean in SDK | 12:00 |
| lbt | I think it is .. in Mer:Tools | 12:01 |
| Sage_ | lbt: well noted that your previous submits to review are with 0.23 :) | 12:04 |
| lbt | oh, me :) | 12:05 |
| lbt | hmm | 12:05 |
| lbt | yeah - that's me not running in SDK :/ | 12:05 |
| Sage_ | just note to all. When doing packaging update please search other bugs related to the same package from bugzilla as there are many cleanups that could be easily merged to same submit. | 12:05 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: could you kick the device mapper in review? | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: first monday | 12:08 |
| lbt | so : sudo sdk-upgrade --sdk 6.0.1 | 12:08 |
| lbt | will now upgrade the SDK to a Tools:Testing release | 12:09 |
| lbt | "Retrieving package spectacle-0.24.1-1.1.noarch" | 12:09 |
| * Sage_ noted more whitespace errors in spectacle :/ | 12:09 | |
| Sage_ | well at least I got most of them in 0.24 but apparently some were left :P | 12:10 |
| lbt | feel free to fix - that's a testing release | 12:10 |
| Sage_ | not critical. | 12:10 |
| lbt | if you'd like a 0.24.2 | 12:10 |
| Sage_ | I'll probably do 0.25 as havn't noted any other critical issues with 0.24 | 12:10 |
| lbt | what you'd do is build in Mer:Tools:Testing ... if it builds OK then SR to Mer:Tools | 12:10 |
| lbt | that's a review step ... gerrit would be nice | 12:11 |
| lbt | gerrit-like I mean | 12:11 |
| Sage_ | FYI: I'm keeping couple of weeks vacation here so I might not be online much. | 12:11 |
| lbt | then when we're happy we do a snapshot release of Mer:Tools (like I just did to 6.0.1) | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: have a good honeymoon :) | 12:12 |
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| lbt | Sage_: enjoy | 12:13 |
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| rcg | Sage_: honeymoon, vacation? sounds nice :) wish you a great time :) | 12:20 |
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| lbt | vgrade: ping | 13:11 |
| lbt | any issues with the createrepo in your home area? | 13:11 |
| lbt | I've pulled it into the Mer:Tools pre-release | 13:11 |
| lbt | I noticed it's the 0.9 branch vs 0.4 'stable' | 13:11 |
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| lbt | SDK announcement from last week updated and re-sent | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:15 |
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| Stskeeps | oh god, where has mosh been all my life | 13:27 |
| tadzik | is it this good? | 13:28 |
| tadzik | I was trying to run it on the bus to N9Party, to no success | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes, for people to roam a lot | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | combine with a screen session and it's really nice | 13:28 |
| tadzik | my ritual after opening the laptop is usually 1) wait for wifi to catch on 2) ssh to all shells 3) screen -r on all shells | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:29 |
| dm8tbr | mosh is nice, but it could still have some moar features :) | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | this seems to just keep it open even if i switch from wifi to gprs etc | 13:30 |
| tadzik | so my ritual could potentially be reduced to 0 operations | 13:30 |
| dm8tbr | like e.g. ipv6 (and thus multi-target), tcp fallback | 13:30 |
| dm8tbr | e.g. our corporate firewall seems to eat mosh traffic for breakfast... | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, udp is usually dismissed | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:33 |
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| tadzik | . o O ( no quake in working hours ) | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:34 |
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| rcg | mhmm... working hours... my contract also doesn't say anything about working hours at the weekend... | 13:38 |
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| rcg | or probably it does but i never came to reading it properly due to all the work | 13:39 |
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| Stskeeps | morn ol | 13:41 |
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| ol | Stskeeps: Good morning to you too. Very late morning obviously. :-) | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | ah, just UGT ;) | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | i'm on slightly better connection now :P | 13:47 |
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| tadzik | UGT is funny | 13:50 |
| tadzik | "good morning" "yeah, good evening" | 13:50 |
| tadzik | oh, I'm mistaken | 13:50 |
| tadzik | I thought of it as "X is always speaking in X's localtime" | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | nop, more complecxx | 13:51 |
| ol | Or you can always say something like "good time of day". | 13:51 |
| rcg | actually, it's much easier ;) | 13:52 |
| rcg | no need to deal with freaking timezones ;P | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | HELO BYE | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:52 |
| rcg | lol | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | we should all communicate in xmpp | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:53 |
| ol | I think, all the world should use UTC. Just working hours will be different in different places. | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | works for china, i think | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | like, one big timezone for immense area | 13:53 |
| tadzik | I'm afraid that'd just create different sort of problems | 13:54 |
| tadzik | "going work, bbl" - "lol on 21:30?" | 13:54 |
| tadzik | or maybe not | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | ol, so where do you hope to contribute to mer/nemo? | 13:54 |
| ol | Not sure yet. May be I'll just try to test how telepathy-ring works on N900 for the beginning. | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | that's a good start | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | gets you into the standard tools used quite quickly | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | grabbed mer platform sdk yet? | 13:56 |
| ol | Not yet. I'm busy with barbecue today. :-) | 13:57 |
| rcg | tadzik: lol.. well got that issue already here... | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, a good choice :) | 13:58 |
| tadzik | :) | 13:58 |
| rcg | i favor some freaking strange working hours xD | 13:58 |
| rcg | at least freaking strange for germany.. in spain i felt much more comfortable :) | 13:58 |
| tadzik | ;) | 13:58 |
| tadzik | well, I favor strange working days | 13:58 |
| rcg | lol | 13:59 |
| tadzik | I went to the office on thursday, apparently national holidays mean that no one will be there | 13:59 |
| rcg | well, i don't favor em, they favor me ;) | 13:59 |
| rcg | the working days, i.e. | 13:59 |
| tadzik | I learned some new things that day. For example, the first person entering the office will trigger an alarm | 13:59 |
| rcg | lol | 13:59 |
| rcg | nice :) | 13:59 |
| tadzik | so I'm calling my boss in panic "ohgod ohgod, I turned the alarm on!" | 14:00 |
| tadzik | his "then turn it off" didn't calm me for some reason | 14:00 |
| rcg | ol: huzza to bbq :) | 14:00 |
| rcg | tadzik: hehe, you'll get used to that.. had that at one office too | 14:02 |
| ol | :-) I had just a short break between buying stuff to grill and starting the fire. Now it's time to go, guests are arriving soon. | 14:02 |
| tadzik | I think I'll just avoid going to work during national holidays :) | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | enjoy | 14:02 |
| rcg | at this office i learned to stop worrying and love the alarm.. if you wanna phrase it that way ;) | 14:02 |
| tadzik | have ful ol | 14:02 |
| ol | Thank you! | 14:02 |
| ol | And a final note before I go. Working from home solves problems with working hours pretty well. | 14:03 |
| rcg | ol: yeah, enjoy :) | 14:03 |
| rcg | uhm.. i don't consider having working hours of 24/7 a solution ;P | 14:03 |
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| zeq | #radeon | 14:09 |
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| Tofe | vgrade: you were right, I managed to get NemoMobile running on the Iconia Tab A500 tablet | 14:57 |
| Tofe | the trick was to switch to software rendering, and to disable the theme daemon (all of this just because of those unimplemented Nokia GLES APIs...) | 14:58 |
| Tofe | gotta go, I'll try to go further tomorrow and have something more completely functionnal :) | 14:59 |
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| tadzik | s/at/from/? ;) | 15:14 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 15:15 |
| CosmoHill | either way I need a new charger | 15:15 |
| tadzik | probably | 15:15 |
| CosmoHill | I have a newer tech one but that isn't earthed | 15:15 |
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| Stskeeps | first bad thing as a danish expat: i got refused to buy cheap alcohol across the border as i had no permanent residence in .dk | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:34 |
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| spcs | Huzzah, first boot of nemo on my n900 has worked :D | 18:38 |
| tadzik | nice! | 18:40 |
| spcs | Now to reboot and have a play with it. | 18:41 |
| spcs | Kernel panic on reboot :D | 18:42 |
| spcs | Should have seen that one coming. | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | spcs: congrats :) | 18:43 |
| spcs | Unable to mount root fs. Good stuff. | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | spcs: back cover? | 18:45 |
| spcs | Aye it's on. Just pulled the battery out, put it back in (and the cover again) and it's booted fine this time. | 18:46 |
| spcs | Well lets see what fun things we can do now. | 18:49 |
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| spcs_nemo | Good start so far. | 18:52 |
| spcs | Oh, not quite. irc has crashed. | 18:53 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:12 |
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| Stskeeps | maybe you have a weak sd card magnet | 19:12 |
| spcs | Could be. I picked it up a few days ago used, so haven't really had a chance to fully check over everything yet. | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | so what do you hope to do with nemo / mer ? | 19:15 |
| spcs | No idea yet! | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | well, contributing is always possible too ;) | 19:16 |
| spcs | Aye, very true that. | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | if you encounter crashes, please report a bug at bugs.nemomobile.org | 19:17 |
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