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| vgrade | we are talking about systems providing X, Qt, connman in 30=40MB of RAM | 00:06 |
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| Termana | IanWizard-Cloud, you realise Debian uses eglibc right? | 00:14 |
| Termana | I don't know whether Debian and Mer use the same version though, so I wouldn't go simply trying to just go and use the Debian repo, but as vgrade said, you can just rebuild it. | 00:18 |
| IanWizard-Cloud | Sorry, batt died, back. | 00:20 |
| Termana | Also AFAIK Debian repos are still only ARMv5 or ARMv4. You are better of doing a rebuild for armv7hf for mer, especially since you were concerned about optimisations. | 00:20 |
| Termana | off* | 00:20 |
| IanWizard-Cloud | Hmm, yeah. | 00:21 |
| IanWizard-Cloud | Thinking I should just use elibc for everything. | 00:21 |
| IanWizard-Cloud | I'm just trying to get a good, toolchain setup, for the hardware, and use that for the various things that I build, independent of Android. | 00:22 |
| IanWizard-Cloud | I think that I'm caught up now, thanks :) | 00:22 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Can someone point out an example of a pseudo-package with _link and/or _aggregate? | 00:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'm on Day 3 of trying to get what I thought would be a simple build to work. | 00:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks! | 00:58 |
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| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: hmm, what problems are you having? | 05:51 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | My build fails for Fedora x86_64 but works for Ubuntu, Debian. | 06:12 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Guess I'm missing some dependencies on Fedora only. | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: okay, can you point to it? | 06:12 |
| Alison_Chaiken | (Made some progress since this afternoon.) | 06:12 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, I've never tried to qmake . . . make . . . make install on a Fedora host. I'll probably find a new dependency that way and check spec file. | 06:13 |
| Alison_Chaiken | So earlier question is now deprecating. | 06:13 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Long-dormant Fedora laptop is updating a huge backlog in preparation . . . | 06:14 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Meanwhile playing with new Allerta inPulse notifications watch. | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:14 |
| * Stskeeps 'll participate remotely in http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/session/plasma-activevivaldi-tablet-truly-open-os-mobile-devices later today | 06:15 | |
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| Bostik | Alison_Chaiken: qmake has a "nice" way of dealing with missing includes or modules: it merely croaks a warning and then merrily goes on; to actually error out on a missing dependency needs to be explicitly set in the .pro file(s) | 06:56 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, I hope that there will be a recording of the session. | 06:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Bostik, qmake isn't obviously failing; the package build complains that a file in blahblah/cmake is missing for Fedora build, not for Mer, Debian, etc. | 06:59 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Not exciting stuff, I admit. | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: qtbase merged to mer btw | 07:00 |
| Bostik | \o/ | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | prolly need to catch up with your alpha1 work | 07:00 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Would like to get back and figure out state of EGL on Mer. So many things I'd like to do, sigh. Need more hours. | 07:00 |
| Bostik | oddly enough I suspect alpha1 is a few commits *behind* the sources in :Qt5:Devel | 07:01 |
| Alison_Chaiken | And figure out why gpsd runs and sees GPS on Mer but doesn't seem to get any data (USB GPS). | 07:01 |
| Alison_Chaiken | http://spatialminds.com/blog/linuxfest-northwest.html | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: verify on pc perhaps if it gets fix | 07:01 |
| Bostik | there was something in the spec I needed to comment out that exists in the newer head | 07:01 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Interesting Qt talk at NW Linuxfest. | 07:01 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Oh yeah, GPS works great: used with all different devices to record data. | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: perhaps not enough ampere from usb port? | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | ie, need powered usb hub | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: ok, i will merge :Devel during tomorrow then | 07:03 |
| Bostik | ah right | 07:03 |
| Bostik | #%{_datadir}/qt5/mkspecs/devices/ | 07:03 |
| Bostik | # NOTE: the above is present in qtbase master, but not in alpha1 | 07:03 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Already plugged into powered hub! (Learned that lesson in MeeGo-Panda days). | 07:03 |
| Bostik | the device files themselves are in Ə1 but the qmake magic was not there yet :) | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: worth checking :) | 07:03 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Panda needs something like 3.5 A to boot without any peripherals plugged in. | 07:03 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Mos def. Burned by that one before. | 07:03 |
| Alison_Chaiken | When the current was too low, the NAND didn't come up right, so the error messages were peculiar. Took me a while to figure out. | 07:04 |
| Alison_Chaiken | A device doesn't give an error like "The NAND doesn't have enough current." Too bad! | 07:04 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: I should get the alpha1 together next week, and then catch up with module heads again | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:05 |
| Alison_Chaiken | G'night all. | 07:06 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: the function printf() can block a program, have you ever encountered this problem ? | 07:20 |
| _av500_ | depends on where stdout goes to I guess | 07:22 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: in fact, I encountered this when I add a statement "printf" in webkit | 07:22 |
| ZiQiangHuan | _av500_: just a simple printf("something\n"); | 07:23 |
| _av500_ | foo | less would also block | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: there might be some odd occourences with threading.. and sometimes some apps close stdout fd | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: fprintf(stderr, might be better | 07:23 |
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| Stskeeps | remember printf is just writing to a fd in the end | 07:24 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yeah, I add fflush(stdout) after printf | 07:26 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: but sometimes it work, somtimes not work | 07:27 |
| _av500_ | find out what webkit does to stdout | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | also for apps in x sessionn std actually goes to a file, .xsession-errors | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | so you might have to wait for i/o | 07:28 |
| _av500_ | and i guess webkit has some log() functions too | 07:30 |
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| E-P | morning | 07:37 |
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| vgrade | Morning | 07:51 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, Janice told me last night that our dinner appointment is an hour earlier than I though so I will miss the whole LFNW thing now :( | 07:51 |
| vgrade | I'll ping an email to Carl and Aaron | 07:52 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: O | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | K | 08:32 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:52 |
| CosmoHill | morning | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: saw http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture ? | 08:55 |
| iekku | huomenta | 08:55 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: you've been busy :) | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: turns out AgileBrowser can do batch mode as well, so that could be useful | 08:57 |
| lbt | I wonder how close I was with that outline I did a while back | 08:58 |
| lbt | ... and I think it's time we started to think about a "package data store" (trying to avoid the word pkgDB) | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | i'm still unsure of the worth of it, but feel to convince me otherwise | 08:59 |
| lbt | things like architectural grouping are coming up in QA | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | and i have that in mind too | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | ie, what things do we support as interfaces, as well | 09:01 |
| lbt | the pkgdb is meant to provide a reliable API | 09:01 |
| lbt | it's possible to master the data in package metadata - and that could well be correct | 09:02 |
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| lbt | but it then means that, anything wanting to know authoritative data would have to parse that | 09:02 |
| lbt | anyhow... I don't think it's blocking anything yet | 09:03 |
| lbt | aha ... email | 09:03 |
| lbt | hmm - group covers all binary packages a source package produces .... and yet : run-time architecture, not build-time | 09:05 |
| lbt | you know grouping is one of the data managment areas that *always* goes wrong | 09:06 |
| lbt | when you have your head firmly in architecture space then "group" means architecture group. When you have it in people-management space it means "packages managed by this team" | 09:08 |
| lbt | when you have it in kickstart space it means "packages installed by this label" | 09:08 |
| lbt | when you have it in license space ... | 09:09 |
| lbt | so in my mind the word group should almost never be used in isolation | 09:09 |
| lbt | "The goal is to encourage sane Group: settings of vendor components" .... ouch | 09:10 |
| * phaeron quietly slips aways | 09:10 | |
| lbt | Incidentally that Group: flag in a .spec was originally intended (I think) as a user-interface hint to guide the presentation of packages in an installation tool | 09:11 |
| lbt | phaeron: :P | 09:11 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | well, raise it in the thread as that stuff goes into the architectural documentation over time else, so it's best to define the terms | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | and we'll sort out things as we go, even 'package groups' (horrid name) is something to consider there | 09:20 |
| lbt | yep | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | just bringing the issues up to the surface early | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | this work will also help to understand where our focus on QA needs to be, or for that matter, priority of documenting areas | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | as more can understand -wtf- is going on in Mer ;) | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | just be happy i don't pull a bada, http://dkor.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/web_samsung_architecture.png?w=600&h=370 | 09:25 |
| dm8tbr | but but that's so simple and clear!? :-þ | 09:26 |
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| * lbt gets "Mer Project" paying-in bank book in post | 09:51 | |
| * lbt looks at vgrade | 09:51 | |
| * lbt looks at Hetzner | 09:51 | |
| * lbt looks at vgrade again | 09:51 | |
| jbos_ | hi lbt, | 09:52 |
| lbt | hey jbos_ | 09:52 |
| jbos_ | my fakeobs behave strange today... I cant connect anymore to it | 09:52 |
| jbos_ | obs gets a connection refused | 09:52 |
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| jbos_ | already tried a reboot and such | 09:53 |
| lbt | check the nohup.out / log | 09:53 |
| lbt | is it set up as a service? | 09:53 |
| lbt | if not it may need running manually | 09:53 |
| jbos_ | what i get is http://paste.jeremias-bosch.com/show.php?id=1050 | 09:54 |
| jbos_ | and this on fakeobs http://paste.jeremias-bosch.com/show.php?id=1051 | 09:54 |
| jbos_ | nohup.out , where is this supposed to be? | 09:56 |
| waa | pwd | 09:56 |
| lbt | jbos_: it's in the release-tools dir usually | 10:02 |
| lbt | unless you run using systemd | 10:02 |
| jbos_ | i see, nay currently it simply started manual as root | 10:02 |
| jbos_ | printing to console | 10:03 |
| jbos_ | root@fakeobs:/srv/mer/mds/release-tools# python tools/fakeobs.py 8001 | 10:04 |
| lbt | mmmk ... not the best way to run a service :) | 10:04 |
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| jbos_ | ineed | 10:04 |
| jbos_ | but its right now only for testing :) | 10:04 |
| lbt | the 503 isn't a problem btw | 10:04 |
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| lbt | "they all do that, sir" | 10:04 |
| lbt | so now it's restarted is it working? | 10:05 |
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| jbos_ | this is strange, its only refusing this one package, the other packages are working | 10:09 |
| lbt | any errors now? | 10:09 |
| jbos_ | mhm I disabled i586 for this | 10:11 |
| jbos_ | package. now i enabled it and it works | 10:11 |
| lbt | yep - it does tend to be more active when it's turned on ;) | 10:12 |
| jbos_ | mhm I have i586 and armv7el targets | 10:12 |
| jbos_ | I only want to build arm | 10:12 |
| jbos_ | so i disable i586, and it also stops to build arm? | 10:12 |
| jbos_ | with a connection refused on fakeobs?? this seems more like a bug :) | 10:13 |
| lbt | OK -that's odd | 10:13 |
| jbos_ | yep. let just make a bug entry :) where do you like to have it | 10:14 |
| lbt | thanks - just what I was about to suggest | 10:14 |
| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mer%20Integration%20Tools%20%28MINT%29 OBS component | 10:15 |
| lbt | (assuming you're using our packages?) | 10:15 |
| jbos_ | yep | 10:16 |
| lbt | lots of detail too please | 10:16 |
| lbt | I have to pop out - back l8r | 10:16 |
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| jbos_ | k | 10:16 |
| vgrade | lbt, are the bank details on wiki | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | jbos_: sometimes connection refused result is cached | 10:20 |
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| jbos_ | mh? | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | jbos_: ie, that when it has attempted once to do something and failed, the state will stay there | 10:23 |
| jbos_ | ah ok, so what to do to clear this cache? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | depends on where you see the error? | 10:23 |
| jbos_ | m I guess best to put it in a bug report, | 10:24 |
| jbos_ | with all details | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | just imagine the amount of problems you would have with a obs that's not localhost and you link to | 10:25 |
| jbos_ | yup | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | and now think how much of a nightmare meego.com obs was to make products with.. constant downtimes, etc | 10:25 |
| jbos_ | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322 | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 10:32 |
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| jbos_ | m so why is a connection_refused_state cached? | 10:33 |
| jbos_ | does this make sense? | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, at some point the scheduler will go in and ask the source server to give it the sources | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | if at that point the remote OBS is down, it of course can't fetch it, and the package build gets marked as failed | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | which doesn't get resurrected when the 'remote obs' comes back up again | 10:34 |
| jbos_ | yep, but if I say "trigger rebuild" | 10:34 |
| jbos_ | i guess it will try again | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | is the state of package 'failed' or something else? | 10:35 |
| jbos_ | it was broken: "connection refused" | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:35 |
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| jbos_ | one thing which I find odd, and may show some bad setup on my obs.. the installation of th "build environment" takes about 30 minutes. | 10:51 |
| jbos_ | or is this a good time? | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | that sounds a bit unusual, maybe bad VM i/o? | 10:51 |
| jbos_ | yep I thought the same, so its running in kvm | 10:52 |
| jbos_ | worker has about 20gb ram free, i use qcow2 virtual medias with writethrough cache mode | 10:56 |
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| jbos_ | they are on a raid 1 | 10:57 |
| jbos_ | physicaly | 10:57 |
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| jbos_ | mhm i guess that raw, none cache would be better | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | i had problems with that too fwiw | 11:02 |
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| Stskeeps | sroedal: should it be possible to get wayland 0.85 & qml compositor from qtwayland working with shm buffers these days? | 11:12 |
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| Stskeeps | wb pirut | 11:13 |
| jbos_ | lets see, just converted image to something that should be faster, no caching, raw, native io, all prealloc | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | also, how many GB ram does your frontend/backend have? | 11:22 |
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| jbos_ | dedicated are 6 GB, while 2 are shared with others,... but this change makes some huge difference | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not personally happy with the amount of ram OBS fe/be takes | 11:23 |
| jbos_ | yes, so the performance blocker was the disk image setup | 11:24 |
| jbos_ | now it took about 3 minutes to install 68/181 package | 11:24 |
| jbos_ | before this took 12-15 min | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | :NOD: | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: i mean | 11:25 |
| jbos_ | mhm did you ever try to checkout in a spec file? | 11:25 |
| jbos_ | my sources 'to be build' are well, ~600 mb, in total | 11:26 |
| jbos_ | which makes it quite a big tar to keep updated | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | assume workers do not have network | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | it's most secure | 11:26 |
| jbos_ | indeed | 11:28 |
| jbos_ | ah need to leave now, get some stuff, cya | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | seeya | 11:29 |
| * phaeron looks at the stale vcs integration branch .. | 11:29 | |
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| alterego | No sign of my 3D printer kit .. :( | 11:43 |
| alterego | Hopefully it'll come over the next week. | 11:43 |
| vgrade | alterego, which one ? | 11:44 |
| alterego | prusa mendal with linear bearings | 11:47 |
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| CosmoHill | hi Venemo_N950 | 12:05 |
| CosmoHill | and alterego and vgrade | 12:05 |
| Venemo_N950 | hey CosmoHill :) | 12:05 |
| alterego | Hey CosmoHill | 12:05 |
| Venemo_N950 | what's up? | 12:05 |
| CosmoHill | watching football and drinking milkshake | 12:06 |
| Venemo_N950 | :) | 12:06 |
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| CosmoHill | there are three matches on that are of interest | 12:07 |
| CosmoHill | Reading (my team) vs Birmingham, southamption vs cov and west ham vs hull | 12:08 |
| CosmoHill | Southampton and West Ham are sorta fighting for 2nd place in the table only west ham don't have a hope | 12:08 |
| alterego | I want reading, southhampton and west ham to win :) | 12:10 |
| alterego | Well, the chances of them winning the next four games is somewhat impossible. | 12:10 |
| CosmoHill | reading already have promotion and the championship :) | 12:11 |
| CosmoHill | for west ham to win they need to score 4 more goals and cov need to score 3 goals | 12:12 |
| CosmoHill | to win automatic promotion that is | 12:12 |
| CosmoHill | "The players just over 45 minutes away from the premier league" | 12:13 |
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| lilstevie | vgrade: did you see the new armhf release :D | 13:53 |
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| vgrade | lilstevie, i did not see one? | 14:05 |
| vgrade | just a new softfp release | 14:05 |
| vgrade | oh there is a new one | 14:08 |
| vgrade | but not for harmony | 14:08 |
| RaYmAn | harmony/ventana - who cares :P drivers certainly doesn't | 14:08 |
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| lilstevie | vgrade: harmony/ventana really aren't that different | 14:13 |
| RaYmAn | the main difference from nvidia's point of view is actually the kernel | 14:15 |
| lilstevie | and as far as the driver is concerned clock speed does not matter | 14:19 |
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| sroedal | Stskeeps: yep, should be possible | 14:59 |
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| johnx | hallo | 17:28 |
| johnx | anyone else @ lfnw? | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | lo johnx | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | some might be in #active at least, i'll be participating remotely | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | just telling about our piece of the puzzle :) | 17:29 |
| johnx | seems like they're having some technical issues right now. are you going to skype in or simiar? | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | worst case scenario i can write my talk on IRC ;) | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | how's the amount of participants for the session? | 17:32 |
| johnx | no sitting room left :) | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | well that's good i presume, murphy's law must really kick into force then :) | 17:33 |
| johnx | people standing by the walls | 17:33 |
| johnx | the kde guy is calling in in a sec | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | ok, skype online, etc | 17:35 |
| johnx | aaron needs to answer his phone ... | 17:36 |
| johnx | woo! we have video | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | i think my power supply just decided to die | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | or not, well, at least the battery icon.. | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:38 |
| johnx | not the greatest timing but it fits the theme of today | 17:38 |
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| * johnx reports from the ground :) | 17:40 | |
| Stskeeps | someone's playing loud cowboy music in the distance, intruiging.. | 17:59 |
| johnx | http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnxx/7121906813/in/photostream | 18:04 |
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| johnx | your audience | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | time for scene fright? | 18:05 |
| johnx | wow. people still wandering in | 18:06 |
| johnx | though i think you've talked to bigger audiences ;) | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | probably, but you can't underestimate the usefulness of presenting to small but technical audiences | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | we had a devroom in FOSDEM, almost at capacity for mobile linux topics all day | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | we had to turn away people from the Tizen talk | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | due to fire regulations | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | going to SF on saturday, so happy i'm just conferencing and not doing any talks :) | 18:08 |
| johnx | you'll be within 800 miles of me. sure you don't want to drive up? | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | i'll be significantly limited in time, sadly - and i don't have a drivers license yet! | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | though that ETA is getting closer now, taking course these days | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | aaron still talking? | 18:11 |
| johnx | yup. he's on the 'what could it look like" slide | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:13 |
| johnx | also: how are you taking the drivers ed course? online? | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | surprisingily there are driver ed teachers here that speak and teach in english | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | practical test will be with a sworn translator in the back | 18:15 |
| johnx | interesting. you know my company does online drivers ed, right? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | i think you said | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind online driver's ed here too, i would probably get much more out of it.. but the practical lessons are insanely hard here | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | traffic = bizarre and violent | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | like driving inside a beehive on fire | 18:17 |
| johnx | if you want a license to drive in California, I can get you started :D | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | i'll probably need that if i ever move there ;) | 18:17 |
| johnx | afk for a bit | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | k | 18:18 |
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| johnx | aaron is wrapping up. they'll probably call you soon | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | k | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | or someone else, there's a few potential people:) | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | we'll see | 18:24 |
| johnx | ah | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | ready any time anyhow | 18:24 |
| johnx | n/m. aaron talking about hardware | 18:24 |
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| johnx | oooh, and someone has one to demo | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | good evening InformatiQ :) | 18:28 |
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| johnx | still doing q+a. i don't know if they'll fit anyone else in | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | we'll see, technical issues are always a bitch in that regard | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | the important thing is that people learn about active and vivaldi, some might dive deeper into the machine room and discover mer | 18:36 |
| johnx | mer got mentioned a couple times. if i talk to people where should i point people besides irc? | 18:37 |
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| Stskeeps | #mer and merproject.org, mailing list always open for questions | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | wiki is filled with info | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | worst case scenario i've found a good pitch for discussing mer in the future, written down :) | 18:37 |
| johnx | well, questions are a good sign at least | 18:38 |
| johnx | is mer supporting other tablets? some guy was asking | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | mer is just a core, add a hardware adaptation | 18:38 |
| johnx | the guy wanted precooked images I think | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | life's hard :) | 18:39 |
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| johnx | are there any hw adaptations that are far along? | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | pre-existing hardware adaptations exist for exopc and archos g9 and so on | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | n900, n950.. but they're not part of mer, but external entities | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | to make more sense of that, come by and have a chat ;) | 18:40 |
| johnx | i'll catch him afterwards and point him at mer | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:40 |
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| johnx | i assume all mer adaptations can run plasma/active? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | you can't always assume that | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | for example, raspberry pi | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | but many can, yes | 18:41 |
| johnx | good point | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | we even have virtual machine adaptations, so you can do llvmpipe+mer in virtualbox | 18:42 |
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| johnx | are both the 8" and 10" g9 tablets supported? | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | that i don't know offhand | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | again, the external entities thing :) mer doesn't carry hardware adaptations or ui's for a reason :) | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | so there will be hw adaptation projects i don't know details about, from my pov | 18:44 |
| johnx | fair enough | 18:44 |
| johnx | and we're wrapping up it seems | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | next time we'll have a full session for mer ;) | 18:48 |
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