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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:23 |
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| timoph | (⌐■_■) | 04:51 |
| E-P | morning timoph, Stskeeps | 05:00 |
| iekku | huomenta | 05:00 |
| l3i | morning | 05:02 |
| Stskeeps | morn, i'll be mostly gone today | 05:26 |
| iekku | :) | 05:28 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: have a nice meeting | 05:31 |
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| niqt | morning all | 06:22 |
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| slaine | lbt, you about yet ? | 07:46 |
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| Anssi138 | When we see Mer on medfield? :) http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone | 08:30 |
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| lbt | slaine: pong | 08:31 |
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| Stskeeps | Anssi138: when someone makes a hw adaptation | 08:32 |
| lbt | slaine: I'm out most of the morning... chat l8r | 08:34 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: have a good day :) | 08:34 |
| slaine | lbt, just wondering if I should try a fresh install to test ? | 08:34 |
| slaine | OBS | 08:34 |
| lbt | slaine: I think we may take the current git snapshot as a reasonable base - upstream took most patches; phaeron is working on some new features too so we won't want to stabilise on them for a while yet | 08:36 |
| lbt | fixing the install scripts would be good | 08:36 |
| Anssi138 | Stskeeps: is thre btw any documentation what needs to be adapted | 08:36 |
| slaine | they worked fine on Friday | 08:36 |
| lbt | updating the wiki too :) | 08:36 |
| lbt | OK ... gotta go, late :) | 08:36 |
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| slaine | later | 08:36 |
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| Stskeeps | Anssi138: bootloader, kernel, gles drivers, modem, sensors.. | 08:37 |
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| Anssi138 | smells partly a proprietary stuff | 08:38 |
| Anssi138 | hopefully all bridges are not yet burned | 08:41 |
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| Anssi138 | just platforms. | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | Anssi138: http://download.tizen.org/previews/ivi/latest/repos/tzbase/source/kernel-adaptation-bb-3.0.8-5.1.src.rpm | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | i think this one is blackbay, ie, the android ref handset | 08:42 |
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| byako | wtf :D rpm -qi meegotouchcp-display: "...; name - qtflyingbus; Source RPM : qtflyingbus-0.1-3.3.Nemo.Apps.src.rpm; Summary : Qt Flying bus game; ..." :D What is this ? | 10:09 |
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| E-P | Reminder: Mer QA meeting starting in ~1h 45min | 10:13 |
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| byako | rpm db seems to be corrupted. | 10:16 |
| sledges | doog morning :) | 10:21 |
| sledges | OBS question: why is this not created - http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/sledge:/branches:/home:/stskeeps:/branches:/CE:/Apps/CE_MW_Shared_armv7l , meanwhile this is - https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=qt-components&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Astskeeps%3Abranches%3ACE%3AApps&repository=CE_MW_Shared_armv7l ? | 10:22 |
| sledges | (I would like to add to Mer my this custom repo to via zypper addrepo) | 10:22 |
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| Stskeeps | sledges: at conference, leave a message at the beep | 10:34 |
| sledges | NP :) enjoy Frontier-End! | 10:34 |
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| vgrade | sledges, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Astskeeps%3Abranches%3ACE%3AApps | 10:52 |
| vgrade | publish disable | 10:52 |
| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Astskeeps%3Abranches%3ACE%3AApps | 10:52 |
| * sledges doh! thank you, will look there next time | 11:02 | |
| sledges | vgrade, ^ | 11:02 |
| vgrade | sledges, np, not sure the default is to set that setting to disable as it trips most people including me | 11:05 |
| vgrade | why | 11:05 |
| sledges | is the default disable? never happened to me | 11:06 |
| sledges | i branched, so i think that branched the settings altogether | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | branch is auto not publish | 11:07 |
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| E-P | Reminder: Mer QA meeting in 30min's | 11:29 |
| iekku | E-P, i'm having telco in same time, so i might not be very active | 11:32 |
| E-P | iekku: ok | 11:32 |
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| bfederau | Hi. I have here three iso images with a mer core system and over the time the difference of the size raised up to 80MB. I took a look into the images and saw that the package size of the glibc-common package increases from 15MB up to 130MB ( see package info: http://pastebin.com/KN18vHB9). I also recognized that since version 2.15 Ubuntu's elibc instead of glibc is used in the package. I just want to call some attention on it and want to ask if this could be | 11:38 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: when I use telnet to connect mer, I have to use mer as the user. The user is decided by what? | 11:46 |
| E-P | ZiQiangHuan: default users and passwords are defined in the .ks file | 11:49 |
| ZiQiangHuan | E-P: I checked the .ks file, default user is really defined there. thank you | 11:52 |
| E-P | ZiQiangHuan: no problem :) | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | bfederau: it's relared to locales, please file bug | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | we need to provide a much smaller set | 11:56 |
| bfederau | Stskeeps: ok | 11:57 |
| E-P | Mer QA Meeting starting now | 12:00 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, quick thing for logs.. %snapshot macro before actual make test/check, will snapshot BUILD dir for later testing on device | 12:41 |
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| byako | hmmm, pastie.org is offline :\ sad story | 13:50 |
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| byako | Sage__: did you managed to get Xsession running on snowball ? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | try first with Xorg -noreset | 14:07 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: Xorg is normally working when I launch it from serial console and xterm shows up. What doesn't work is the default graphics session output to hdmi.. according to processes list - everything works, but not on hdmi output somehow.. | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | setuid needeed? | 14:14 |
| Sage__ | byako: yes | 14:14 |
| byako | Sage__: did you have problems configuring graphics output to hdmi or starting default session ? | 14:15 |
| byako | Stskeeps: to where ? | 14:15 |
| byako | I added user to tty and video groups | 14:15 |
| Sage__ | byako: err... I got Xorg and xterm running, but didn't test mch after that | 14:15 |
| byako | although session is started by init->systemd and thus should be called from root uid | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | byako: try start xorg as the user | 14:15 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: no no no, that thing works. systemd starts uxlaunch and mcompositor. | 14:16 |
| byako | then something triggers X | 14:16 |
| byako | but in such a way that X output doesn't go to hdmi | 14:17 |
| byako | the screen is blank and goes to power safe mode after some time | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes, please test what i said | 14:17 |
| byako | ok | 14:17 |
| byako | # Server is already active for display 0 | 14:18 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: [nemo@localhost ~]$ ps axf | grep X 1737 tty1 Ssl+ 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -nolisten tcp -noreset -auth /home/nemo/.Xauthority vt1 | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | ls -l /usr/bin/Xorg] | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | ls -l /usr/bin/Xorg | 14:20 |
| byako | -rws--x--x 1 root root 1684120 Mar 26 2012 /usr/bin/Xorg | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 14:20 |
| byako | yep | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | check /home/*/.Xorg.0.log | 14:21 |
| byako | nope, only /var/log/Xorg.*.log | 14:21 |
| byako | what should I look at? it seems working fine | 14:21 |
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| byako | gosh, ~/.xsession-errors 998MB | 14:32 |
| sledges | hello again, tell me that porting current MeeGo 1.1 for BeagleBoard's to 1.2 will not be fighting with windmills (ref: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch#Assembly_of_the_root_file_system ) | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: can't | 14:37 |
| sledges | 8| | 14:40 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: xmpp is failing fyi | 14:42 |
| X-Fade | stable connections? :) | 14:43 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, I was thinking merely just about replacing 1.1 repos to 1.2 in the BeagleBoard build system (.sh), as 1.2 source should still be not dead (/broken) - still you've got the same answer? I know diggign old graves is not a solution, but banks still have text mode accounting systems written in FORTRAN in 80s, wrapped in a Windows 7 window | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: 1.1 worked as it was softfp | 14:51 |
| sledges | 1.2 is hardfp? everything 'could' be recompiled 'in theory' :) | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | i tried and it was a nightmare | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy | 14:54 |
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| Stskeeps | best path is recompiling the ivi ui stack only | 14:57 |
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| sledges | and if it's beagleboard-xm i guess is not a gamechanger.. | 15:03 |
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| sledges | (sorry for offtopicking btw, but then again, remember the banks...:)) | 15:04 |
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| Stskeeps | hello bumb | 15:11 |
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| Stskeeps | wb bumb | 15:17 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, twice :) | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | @##$ | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | do i smell bad today? :P | 15:20 |
| vgrade | the cheek of it :) | 15:20 |
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| Stskeeps | hello ntadej | 15:24 |
| ntadej | hi | 15:24 |
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| Stskeeps | shower time it is.. | 15:25 |
| vgrade | :) | 15:25 |
| vgrade | hope your conf is going better | 15:26 |
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| sledges | in the conference? | 15:26 |
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| sledges | very weird - Lipstick(or QmlGallery) fails soak test - after 30minutes with QmlComponentsExtrasGallery running "Tumbler Date" demo (idle), crashes the whole lipstick and falls back to xterm where it started, with error: qrc:/qml/Launcher.qml:44:13: QML Image: Cannot open: file:////usr/share/themes/base (x2 and last one with ...themes/meego/meegotouch/images/MeeGo-People-landscape.png and last line reads Killed. After the system is ultra slow, and free s | 15:42 |
| sledges | ys 8M free left, no swap... mem leaks :{ | 15:42 |
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| sledges | “We won't quit!” (Pink Panther the Movie :)) | 15:49 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | I added a repo to my OBS and want to trigger a build against it. Do I have to touch my sources or something? I thought the build would get queued. | 15:56 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I tried to RTFM, but the OBS help site is 100% 404 right now. | 15:57 |
| Sage__ | Alison_Chaiken: osc help rebuild | 15:58 |
| Sage__ | Alison_Chaiken: or go to the build log in webui and click rebuild there | 15:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks, Sage__. | 15:59 |
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| Stskeeps | sledges: i've seen a similar slowdown on my n9 | 16:20 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | I'm sorry to be a complete idiot, but I've been stuck for an hour. | 16:36 |
| Alison_Chaiken | "osc repos" in my package top-level directory shows nothing even though webui lists repos. | 16:36 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | I go to webui at OBS and repos listed there. | 16:37 |
| vgrade | Alison_Chaiken, sec while I bring up your home | 16:37 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I tried "osc rebuild project package repo" from CLI but it fails on repoid. | 16:37 |
| Alison_Chaiken | And I can't find "rebuild" on webui anywhere. | 16:38 |
| vgrade | so you want to build these 3 packages, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Aalison | 16:38 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Actually I just want to rebuild nobdy, but if I could figure out how to rebuild all 3, that would be a good start ;-) | 16:39 |
| Alison_Chaiken | "osc rebuild home\:alison nobdy Fedora_15" ? | 16:39 |
| vgrade | ok from that page click on advaced | 16:39 |
| vgrade | then on meta | 16:39 |
| Alison_Chaiken | "osc rebuild home\:alison nobdy openSUSE.org\:Fedora\:15/standard x86_64" ? | 16:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | openSUSE.org:Fedora:15/standard then is correct repoid. | 16:40 |
| Alison_Chaiken | So why does "osc co home\:alison nobdy" work, but then we I cd to the resulting directory, "osc repos" returns nothing? | 16:41 |
| Alison_Chaiken | And where is that silly "rebuild" invoker on webui? | 16:41 |
| vgrade | it wont rebuild as you have not set the arch here, https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Aalison | 16:42 |
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| vgrade | that config needs to look similar to https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Avgrade | 16:43 |
| vgrade | ie add the <arch>armv8el</arch> bits | 16:43 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks, vgrade, I'll compare the files. | 16:44 |
| vgrade | once you have those in it will start building | 16:44 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I see: it's "standard" that's a problem then! Thanks muchly, as always. | 16:45 |
| * Stskeeps crashes in office chair | 16:49 | |
| Stskeeps | 8+ hours of javascript is more than i can stomach | 16:50 |
| * Stskeeps ponders how to survive tizen conference | 16:50 | |
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| sledges | :))) | 16:51 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: did .2 come out? | 17:35 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: yes | 17:42 |
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| lbt | didn't see any errors in the cpio this time and the updatestorm happened overnight | 17:43 |
| lbt | did a new release note with some explanation | 17:43 |
| lbt | mmm I think I need to purge the old .1 on the MDS though | 17:43 |
| lbt | wow - a lot of our bugs/tasks are infra aren't they | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:47 |
| lbt | oh balls | 17:49 |
| lbt | release email is in drafts | 17:49 |
| vgrade | http://aseigo.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/vivaldi-nearly-here.html | 17:53 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: how was your conference? | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | E-P: was okay, going again tomorrow, but i was reminded why i prefer the machine room over the frontend | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | E-P: 8 hours of javascript can make anybody a bit tired :) | 18:04 |
| kimju | try working with javascript, perl, c++ and vhdl during the same day.. | 18:06 |
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| E-P | Stskeeps: heh, hopefully nicer tomorrow | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | my takeaway so far is that frontend/web development is having their first attempts of doing software architecture | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | reusing many techniques from native apps, preprocessing, components, etc.. | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | and a html5 community that is very interesting to observe, also open source | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | .. and that stuff like qml is behind in comparison | 18:09 |
| E-P | they have nice improvements in html5 | 18:11 |
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| dm8tbr | kimju: javascript generated vhdl that interprets perl and produces c++ output? ;) | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | it certainly points to the war of runtimes in mobile space i've been talking of a while | 18:14 |
| kimju | dm8tbr, luckily, three separate projects, js+perl in one and the others by themselfs. still requires some serious context switching :) | 18:16 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: indeed, hopefully they get web apis standardized | 18:18 |
| E-P | mozilla is doing one, opera is doing something, tizen has also own | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | interestingily enough about tizen, they avoid NIH as much as they can, it seems | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | and try to piggyback on as many standards as possible | 18:19 |
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| E-P | that sounds good | 18:24 |
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| Stskeeps | hello marchitos | 19:57 |
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| lbt | $('a#id-nobdy-provider-genericobd2_Mer_Core_armv7hl_armv8el').click(function() { alert('have choice for libnss3.so needed by rpm-libs: nss-devel nss, have choice for libnss3.so(NSS_3.10) needed by rpm-libs: nss-devel nss, have choice for libnss3.so(NSS_3.2) needed by rpm-libs: nss-devel nss, have choice for libnss3.so(NSS_3.4) needed by rpm-libs: nss-devel nss, have choice for libnss3.so(NSS_3.11.2) needed by rpm-libs: nss-devel nss, have choice | 19:58 |
| lbt | for libnss3.so needed by rpm: nss-devel nss, have choice for libnss3.so needed by rpm-build: nss-devel nss | 19:58 |
| lbt | oop - meant to just paste the msg | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | there is a Prefer: for this already in prjconf | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | AFAIK | 19:58 |
| lbt | that's what I'd think | 19:59 |
| lbt | or that the devel shouldn't have it was my other thought | 19:59 |
| lbt | it affects !486 | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 19:59 |
| lbt | just looking into the prjconf | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | show me where it happens? | 19:59 |
| lbt | actually I shouldn't tell you about this stuff until I've had a chance to dig | 20:00 |
| lbt | OK - but no spoilers... | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:00 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=nobdy-provider-genericobd2&project=home%3Atripzero | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | just wondering if it affects all packages | 20:00 |
| trip0 | Stskeeps, it's affecting all mine | 20:01 |
| trip0 | :( | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | trip0: that's just because we don't like you ;( | 20:01 |
| trip0 | moo :( | 20:01 |
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| lbt | and Alison_Chaiken too | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: in my vieww, it should affects all projects.. so why doesn't it | 20:02 |
| lbt | agreed ... | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: check the arm* and mips* and i*86/_config in Core, perhaps | 20:03 |
| lbt | have they got prjconfs? or odd paths? | 20:03 |
| lbt | looking i586 has Prefer: nss | 20:03 |
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| Stskeeps | it might simply be an old state from when it screwed up | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | but now i have to go sleep | 20:04 |
| lbt | night | 20:04 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Have a well-deserved rest, Stskeeps. | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | this error is btw, due to the -> /usr move | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | so don't say we won't have trouble :) | 20:05 |
| lbt | :P | 20:05 |
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| lbt | if we have trouble it's due to bugs in code :) | 20:05 |
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| lbt | trip0: looking into it | 20:07 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I set Prefer: nss nss-devel in trip0's prjconf - that caused it to work. | 21:03 |
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| lbt | Removing the prefer reverted to unresolvable | 21:03 |
| lbt | ISTR some odd syntax on that directive | 21:03 |
| lbt | http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_prjconf#Prefer isn't informative | 21:04 |
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