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| rrix | vgrade/Stskeeps: I'm having some trouble getting an xorg.conf.d snippet that gets the mtev stuff woring | 03:51 |
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| rrix | crimsonred's Archlinux-arm port just suses evdev but I couldn't mae that wor either | 03:51 |
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| E-P | Morning | 04:49 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | dm8tbr, I tried to put the PlasmaActive on my 101G9, but my eMMC card has not enough space. The 1.6 GB data partition is almost full after install of rootfs, so that boot shows PlasmaActive splashscreen come up, but then KDE dies, as its "disk" is full. | 05:44 |
| Alison_Chaiken | _av500_ recommends recompiling the kernel's initramfs to look on the HDD for its userland. | 05:45 |
| Alison_Chaiken | In order to do so, I need to pull the kernel sources and get the right toolchain, but I am a bit puzzled as to where to get both. | 05:45 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I have zImage for kernel, but do I get source from a PlasmaActive repo or a Mer repo or Linaro? | 05:46 |
| Alison_Chaiken | For armv7l, natch. And I need right cross-gcc and binutils as well. | 05:46 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I guess those I can just fetch from FSF. | 05:47 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: do you have a meego.com community obs account? | 05:56 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, I do. | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | for the cross compilers, mer platform sdk will have matching cross compilers | 05:56 |
| Alison_Chaiken | You are suggesting that poking around Mer OBS is best way to cross-compile and build new kernel? | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | that's one way, yes | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | as they already package kernel there to my knowledge | 05:57 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Problem is that pre-built kernel has statically compiled initramfs that I need to change. | 05:57 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Will look at OBS then. Prefer easy way to hard way! | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | can you point me to the PA installation instructions for g9? | 05:58 |
| _av500_ | Alison_Chaiken: you can fwd the link to Stskeeps | 06:02 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Will do, _av500_. | 06:02 |
| _av500_ | i know where he lives, so .... :) | 06:02 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Sent to maemo.org address. | 06:04 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, lookin' | 06:05 |
| _av500_ | Alison_Chaiken: the pa kernel does not have initramfs | 06:06 |
| _av500_ | so a simple recompile with different init= should do | 06:06 |
| * Stskeeps concurs | 06:07 | |
| _av500_ | er | 06:07 |
| _av500_ | root= | 06:07 |
| _av500_ | maybe needs a rootwait til the usb hdd is up | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: does the G9 have framebuffer console capability? | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: ok, step one: install Mer Platform SDK, you'll need that | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: two, in there, set up your osc with https://api.pub.meego.cm and osc branch -c Project:KDE:Mer_Extras:Adaptation:Archos-gen9 kernel-adaptation-archos-gen9-new | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | .com, that is | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | and modify the .config file in there to point to right root= and add 'rootwait' as well | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | go to the branched project in "repositories" tab and enable publishing | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | test first you can rebuild the PA image with 'mic' | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | then add your own repository in the .ks, build that image, write it to usb hdd | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | boot it | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | profit | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 06:11 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Wow, _av500_, that's too easy. But I need to do my own KS and packages anyway. Thanks, Stskeeps for detailed hand-holding, as usual. | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's very small modifications to .ks | 06:12 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I will need to add my own packages as well, so I may as well do that when I build. | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | you were planning on own UI on top, i presume | 06:14 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I want to make an IVI tablet. So gpsd and obdgpslogger and nobdy and Navit and festival for sure. | 06:14 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:14 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Getting those working should keep me busy for a while. | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | next step after PA booting would then be reducing image to be booting qmlviewer with opengl | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | so you have it down to 'hardware adaptation' + core | 06:15 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Our project has a webkit2-based HTML5 demo, so that makes it a bit fatter. | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:15 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I should probably start with basic packages, so that getting build going isn't too much pain. | 06:16 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: just get a solid foundation for playing with the package first (booting device), rest is trivial compared :) | 06:19 |
| Bostik | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1 PROGRESS! | 06:21 |
| Bostik | Qt3D finally synced to build again | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 06:21 |
| Bostik | location, systems still untouched, wayland needs additional packaging before I can fix it, and the couple of missing modules should be relatively easy to add | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, mer wayland is deadly old | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | if you want some other things like directfb in mer core to support more qpa backends, let me know | 06:23 |
| Bostik | and for the record: qtquick1 will not work in alpha1, the code tries to use now defucnt header paths :) | 06:24 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: let's not go there yet, I'll want to get the baseline up to speed first | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | i'm fairly certain that at some given point management will come and push them to get qtquick1 going to make it 'easier to port old apps' | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:25 |
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| timoph | morn | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | morn timoph o | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | / | 06:33 |
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| tanuk | Oh dear, hand fell off... | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | it's one of those mornings(TM) | 06:33 |
| * timoph thinking about on what to use his weekend (in addition to the devaamo summit competition implementation) | 06:33 | |
| Stskeeps | i think i've finally found a topic for devaamo summit :P | 06:34 |
| timoph | great | 06:34 |
| * timoph crosses fingers for something technical and hacky ;) | 06:35 | |
| Stskeeps | which is on the other hand a bit like chickening out, but i might be able to pull it off.. "What Mer can do for you - taught through doing a product prototype in 30 minutes on the Raspberry Pi" | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | +testable | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:35 |
| timoph | sounds very good | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | i will need a hdmi projector though | 06:36 |
| timoph | that reminds me. should we ask for an "official" time slot for the Mer QA workshop/BoF? | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes, sure | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | check on mailing list if people can go | 06:37 |
| timoph | yeah | 06:37 |
| E-P | damn that I am not in Finland during that time | 06:37 |
| timoph | I'll do a ml round and send a proposal if there's "enough" interest | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | E-P: we'll set up a webcam if need be ;) | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | telepresense ;) | 06:38 |
| E-P | good idea, but I am on a vacation trip and I am pretty sure that I am not "allowed" to spend too much time on the computer ;) | 06:41 |
| E-P | would be the best time to do stuff.. | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: vacation is most important | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | can't be good if we burn out early :) | 06:43 |
| * Stskeeps glances at roskilde-festival this year | 06:43 | |
| E-P | nice | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | oh hey, we have an advisory board meeting today | 06:46 |
| E-P | was it at 11 UTC? | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:48 |
| timoph | hmmh. | 06:48 |
| timoph | I wonder if the session could be more than QA. | 06:49 |
| timoph | basically a Mer Bof with QA as one the topics | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, makes sense | 06:49 |
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| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3821175 - my devaamo talk | 07:04 |
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| Stskeeps | if i get that accepted, i wouldn't mind if someone videoed it as it would make a good tutorial for merproject.org webpage | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | hello byako :) | 07:06 |
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| E-P | Stskeeps: would be great | 07:06 |
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| Stskeeps | of course my success depends on that we'll be able to do that then ;) | 07:13 |
| byako | hello Stskeeps | 07:13 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: iirc there's a plan to record the talks | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | byako: welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 07:14 |
| Bostik | with the current crop of DSLR cameras, all that is needed for a video recording is a tall tripod and preferably an eye-fi card ;) | 07:14 |
| byako | Stskeeps: i'm bringing up MeeGo on snowball and I found that in u8500 project in mer's home there are available xorg-drv-ste packages, but they're broken due to empty b2r2 package on the same MeeGo obs. So I'm building now b2r2 with hope that I will be able to build xorg-drv-ste after it :) | 07:15 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: did you ever read b2r2 license? :) | 07:16 |
| byako | Stskeeps: didn't even tried. should I ? :) | 07:16 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: it makes up for interesting reading, and that's why there's no 'public' adaptation | 07:17 |
| dcthang | Bostik: video recording is out of order atm on Mer unfortunately | 07:17 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: but it's sources are available from git repo from igloo community. ok, i will take a look to the license. | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | byako: yeah.. that's the stupid part :) | 07:17 |
| Bostik | dcthang: that doesn't surprise me, but I was referring to having devaamo talks recorded if organisers don't arrange for them | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | byako: you can probably get it going yourself with ease | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | byako: http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitweb/?p=bsp/b2r2lib.git;a=blob;f=src/blt_b2r2.c;h=1d3e55f63339031ea60cf9b7da48c6f6e32b4f17;hb=HEAD | 07:18 |
| byako | Stskeeps: so did anyone actually asked STE to use this driver or we just looking to these lines with apprehension? :) | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | byako: i think it has been asked. | 07:21 |
| byako | it says that we need to ask them for a permission | 07:21 |
| byako | Stskeeps: let's see, if it will help frin gup graphics, I will mail them | 07:23 |
| byako | s/frin g/bring/ | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | feel free | 07:23 |
| byako | Stskeeps: do you know if there was already some positive experience running meego + some UI on Snowball ? | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | byako: i -think- so, but i haven't been involved with it | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | new binary blobs doesn't work on old boards, so | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | it might be easier bringing it up on mer instead tbh | 07:24 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: ahh, well I meant mer :) didn't get used to this name yet | 07:25 |
| byako | and BTW meego 1.8 runs pretty fine with igloo kernel, but without graphics. | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | start with getting the basics up, qmlviewer on a framebuffer | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | then move on to specialized xorg driver, then run mer-gfx-tests until things work | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | (with GLESv2/EGL) | 07:27 |
| byako | Stskeeps: that was the trouble I got system working without /dev/fb0, only /dev/hdmi. So I started to search for a driver | 07:28 |
| byako | and came here | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | that's true, modern kernels may not have the fb0 interface | 07:28 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK and http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 might be useful as you're dealing with essentially closed source sources | 07:33 |
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| Stskeeps | so it can't be put on community obs | 07:34 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: ok, as soon as I will get the binary, I will remove sources | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | or look into doing local builds with osc build | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | with platform sdk | 07:41 |
| byako | Stskeeps: or I can just put same stuff on ob build.opensuse.org | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | doubt it, they have some fairly strict guidelines | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | just stating, that's all :) | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | you should be able to build b2r2lib locally and then use that to build xorg driver locally as well | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | with osc build | 07:43 |
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| byako | Stskeeps: normally it should be possible just to use arm toolchain and cross compiling | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | that too, but i presume you want rpms too | 07:44 |
| byako | I'm just running ubuntu and target package is rpm so I wanted to pass this pain stage of building another platform package | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 07:44 |
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| slaine | morning folks | 07:45 |
| byako | morning | 07:45 |
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| Stskeeps | byako: :nod: i'm just suggesting what would probably be easiest to pull off to get to the intended goal of a bringup | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | that can be replicated easily | 07:46 |
| byako | Stskeeps: setting up the SDK with instruction longer thatn 2 pages is not the easiest way as for me :) | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | byako: in practice it's just getting a tarball, untarring it, running the sdk chroot script | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | you need this for making Mer images anyway | 07:46 |
| byako | do I :)? | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:47 |
| Bostik | hmh, where's the handy single-page setup guide I wrote for our hacky devs... | 07:47 |
| byako | isn't mic-image-creator not enough ? | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | no, we use 'mic' now, and mic2 is ancient and buggy | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | platform sdk comes with all necessary tools | 07:48 |
| byako | Stskeeps: ok, as I will need to evolve this enyway. You win. | 07:48 |
| * byako installing SDK | 07:48 | |
| Stskeeps | it's not about winning, just sharing :) | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | and trying to make your life easier ;) | 07:48 |
| Bostik | byako: wait a few minutes and I'll provide a handy guide | 07:48 |
| byako | Bostik: nevermind. The current one should'nt be hard. I'm not total noob | 07:49 |
| byako | Bostik: but thanks | 07:49 |
| Bostik | http://pastie.org/3821320 just in case ;) | 07:50 |
| byako | Bostik: :) OK | 07:51 |
| lbt | morning | 07:51 |
| byako | what's wrong with weather ? +2 and half-snowing half-raining. Is it april or where ? | 07:51 |
| lbt | hey byako | 07:52 |
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| byako | lbt: morning! | 07:52 |
| * Stskeeps rejoices seeing Mer_Core-next succeed | 07:53 | |
| lbt | phew - I went to bed and crossed fingers | 07:54 |
| lbt | pubworker08 needs a reboot too | 07:57 |
| lbt | Bostik: can you show me your quick guide? | 07:58 |
| lbt | for SDK | 07:58 |
| Bostik | lbt: see my pastie link above | 08:01 |
| lbt | d'oh | 08:01 |
| Bostik | lbt: it's the one you helped me debug when the missing /etc/rpm/platform file caused grief | 08:02 |
| lbt | ah yes | 08:02 |
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| Bostik | oh ffs with the qt3d again, now the generated classname headers are not installed at all... | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | morn mdfe_ | 08:06 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: hmm writing release notes now and I realise - people will need the latest "git" build installed to their OBS | 08:08 |
| mdfe_ | good morning | 08:08 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe_: any reactions in PA to new core-next so far? | 08:16 |
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| mdfe_ | please give me five minutes | 08:18 |
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| mdfe_ | hmm, https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316 is still there | 08:19 |
| mdfe_ | but the rest looks much better :) | 08:20 |
| lbt | hehe ... reported yesterday :) | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | we have upgraded libtool, so | 08:23 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: should we patch nspr? | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | what do you use nspr for? | 08:24 |
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| Stskeeps | ah | 08:24 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: what 'build' is on CI ? | 08:52 |
| lbt | pkg or hacked? | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | i need to look into that | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | it has tmpfs | 08:53 |
| lbt | *nod* | 08:53 |
| lbt | gah - OBS makes it so hard to compare versions in 2 projects | 08:54 |
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| Stskeeps | hello hhurtta :) | 08:55 |
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| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Advisory board meeting in #mer-meeting in 2 hours, agenda at http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00432.html | 09:08 |
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| byako | Error <creator>: Unable to install: Rpmdb checksum is invalid: dCDPT(pkg checksums) ;( | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | byako: what .ks did you use? | 09:28 |
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| mdfe_ | Do you used --pkgmgr=yum option ? | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | you probably ran into https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307 | 09:28 |
| byako | also Package MAKEDEV-3.24-1.7.armv7hl.rpm is not signed | 09:29 |
| byako | Stskeeps: 0.20120405.1/kickstarts/mer-core-armv7hl-connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, take v7l instead | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | you need that for snowball anyway, afaik | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | not hardfp blobs | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | (yet) | 09:29 |
| byako | and yes, I used pkgmgr=yum | 09:29 |
| byako | Stskeeps: ok, will try | 09:30 |
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| byako | Makefev (arch armv7l) not signed too. Manual upload? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | no, we do not sign our RPMs right now intentionally | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | because we don't have secure key storage yet, so we don't want to pretend they're secure | 09:33 |
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| byako | ah, allright | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: do we have a task bug for secure release key storage? | 09:35 |
| slaine | lbt, hoping my time is free-er today to get back to testing that setup stuff | 09:36 |
| E-P | timoph: http://review.merproject.org/535 | 09:40 |
| E-P | timoph: and http://review.merproject.org/534 | 09:40 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders idly | 09:41 | |
| byako | Stskeeps: v7l worked fine | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | byako: ok, so you ran into 307 | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, E-P, timoph: let me know who should have review/submit rights on mer-tools stuff | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | submit=merge | 09:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: we do - part of the obs-setup is "signer" | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, but it's more than that.. | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: as a start, we need to distribute the keys as part of release too | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: and ideally the key should be stored somewhere not together with release scripts | 09:46 |
| lbt | *nod* | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | also, we should re-sign rpms as part of release scripts | 09:46 |
| lbt | yep - but first we need to make sure we have enough disk space *g* | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | as to have a uniform release key that doesn't depend on our CI OBS backend | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | as we might change that at times | 09:48 |
| lbt | good point on re-signing though | 09:48 |
| lbt | that requires a verification step too | 09:48 |
| lbt | if it's not implicit | 09:48 |
| byako | lbt: verification of what ? | 09:48 |
| byako | signs ? | 09:48 |
| lbt | byako: well, stripping the signature and signing as release is good | 09:49 |
| lbt | but if the signature you strip is bad in some way (ie not CI sig) then ... oops | 09:49 |
| byako | CI ? | 09:50 |
| lbt | This process needs a few eyes on it - we've discussed it and I have notes as part of the signer setup | 09:50 |
| lbt | continuous integration | 09:50 |
| lbt | Mer has a discrete OBS with no humans allowed :) | 09:51 |
| byako | lbt: ok, so it has places where no one has access, where the sig key can be stored ? | 09:51 |
| lbt | as a seperate issue - yes | 09:51 |
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| byako | I'm not really familiar with mer process yet, I'm just comparing it to what we had in our distribution | 09:52 |
| lbt | all our infra is hosted at an ISP - I'm writing a policy to say we can't use 'donated' servers where physical root is not highly restricted | 09:52 |
| lbt | byako: *nod* | 09:52 |
| lbt | what distro? | 09:53 |
| byako | ASP Linux, Fedora-based russian linux distro. used to be leading at dark times :) | 09:53 |
| lbt | ooh - useful | 09:53 |
| lbt | well, advice would be extremely welcome | 09:54 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: normal with .0.2 http://pastie.org/3821763 ? | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | happened on -old too | 09:54 |
| lbt | byako: I can take you through how we handle contributions in Mer | 09:54 |
| Sage | k | 09:54 |
| lbt | when you have time | 09:54 |
| byako | lbt: can't give any, we worked in closed environment, all servers were in room behind the wall of the working room in the same office | 09:54 |
| byako | lbt: would be nice, after I will get this thing up and running | 09:55 |
| lbt | byako: ah ... OK ... http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail for a user perspecive | 09:55 |
| byako | aha | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | and http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process for the high level view | 09:55 |
| byako | ok, will read that on nex build stage | 09:56 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: what image you want to test from nemo against the .0.2 ? | 09:58 |
| Sage | just wondering what should I build first | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: x86, n900 | 09:59 |
| Sage | k | 09:59 |
| Sage | Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : iptables conflicts with kernel-adaptation-pandaboard-3.1.5-11.1.armv7hl | 09:59 |
| Sage | say what | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | o_O | 09:59 |
| Sage | how what where | 10:00 |
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| Sage | how can that be possible | 10:03 |
| Sage | there isn't any same files | 10:05 |
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| byako | check hardcoded info (conflicts field) | 10:07 |
| Sage | 12 Conflicts: kernel < 2.4.20 | 10:09 |
| Sage | in iptables but my kernel is 3.1.x :P | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -qp kernel-adaptation-pandaboard*.rpm --query-format "%{VERSION}" ? | 10:10 |
| byako | I can't find kernels :\ | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | byako: mer doesn't contain hardware adaptation, those are external so you add that | 10:12 |
| Sage | $ rpm -qp kernel-adaptation-pandaboard*.rpm --queryformat "%{VERSION}" | 10:12 |
| Sage | 3.1.5 | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: wtf | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: solar flare? | 10:12 |
| Sage | well happened again when I tried | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like a good thing to debug, if possible | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | happens for n900 too? | 10:13 |
| Sage | FWIw: we could drop that conflicts from the iptables. Mer can't rearlly run on 2.4.x kernels anyway | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | probably yeah | 10:14 |
| * Sage branches iptables for test | 10:14 | |
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| byako | no "less" package ? or is it in named differently ? | 10:19 |
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| Stskeeps | no 'less', but we could probably add it in Mer:Tools - http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture#Mer_Architecture explains a bit about the rationale behind this | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | i miss 'wget' and 'less' at times too, so | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | mer is ~330 source packages intentionally | 10:21 |
| byako | Stskeeps: you mean mer missing couple of packages intentionally ? | 10:21 |
| byako | why? it's kilobytes.. doesn't take much space | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | for any given package there's usually a bunch of libs being required too | 10:22 |
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| Stskeeps | and it increases the weight of maintaining the core, as well | 10:22 |
| byako | Stskeeps: lack of maintainers ? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | for instance, but also we can much easier cover the system with QA if we don't have a large amount of them to cover | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bit different approach than other systems, agreed :) | 10:24 |
| byako | :) indeed | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | we are more liberal in Mer:Tools, which doesn't typically go into the run-time architecture | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | so that has image creators and tools for development, etc | 10:25 |
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| * Sage would like to see busybox in mer core and all these small tools could be provided with that probably | 10:29 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: curl -O == wget | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i know | 10:29 |
| lbt | alias :) | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | but my muscle memory == wget | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:30 |
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| * Sage is usint cat and vi instead of less/more etc. :P | 10:30 | |
| Sage | takes a while to get used to some limitations but in the end it is not so hard | 10:31 |
| Sage | could someone grep Provides Obsoletes and Conflicts from all mer core packages? | 10:33 |
| Sage | meaning .spec files | 10:34 |
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| Sage | /usr/sbin/prelink: /usr/bin/Xorg: Could not find one of the dependencies | 10:42 |
| Sage | o_0 | 10:42 |
| Bostik | oh gaaaawwwwdd, default header install target eats the correct headers and replaces them with build-tree-only wrappers | 10:43 |
| * Bostik slits wrists | 10:43 | |
| Stskeeps | Sage: which one? | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: sounds like a good day for beer | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Advisory board meeting in 15 minutes in #mer-meeting | 10:44 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: indeed, but I'll need to get this mess sorted out today since I'm on winter holiday next week and can't be arsed to even spit at qt3d | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: ah, well, a holiday sounds good too | 10:45 |
| Bostik | ..and I really would prefer to get the worst alpha1 kinks sorted out before that | 10:45 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: armv7hl | 10:49 |
| Sage | n900 | 10:49 |
| Bostik | ...aha, faulty fix by me... | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, but what dependency | 10:52 |
| Sage | No idea as that message was the only one | 10:52 |
| Sage | I'll upload the image when it is done | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:53 |
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| lbt | jbos: I'm guessing Danny's not back yet? | 10:54 |
| jbos | pong | 10:58 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: I will take over from danny | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:59 |
| lbt | mdfe_: OK - that's good | 10:59 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: dropped that conflicts from iptables and now ti works :) | 11:07 |
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| Bostik | wow, did I actually fix it? | 11:37 |
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| Bostik | right, qt3d packaging improved to the point where other modules (or at least qtlocation) now can build against it | 12:09 |
| Bostik | that was ... painful | 12:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: only thing with .0.2 that I noted so far is the strange conflict with the iptables package | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes, not sure why that would happen | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | did it happen for n900 too? | 12:13 |
| Sage | no only for my pandaboard build | 12:14 |
| Sage | anyway submitted iptables package that has fix for it to review | 12:14 |
| Sage | it might be my fedora host that has the problem as well as mic uses the yum from that one (yes, I'm not building inside mer sdk atm." | 12:15 |
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| Bostik | holy crap! https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1 | 12:18 |
| Bostik | it worked | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 12:19 |
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| Misaka42 | Uhm, hello? | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | hello Misaka42 :) | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | so what brings you here? | 12:21 |
| Misaka42 | Well, I came here to ask a question about mer. | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | sure, ask away :) | 12:21 |
| iekku | :) | 12:22 |
| Misaka42 | I am a linux user. I've used ArchLinux for about a year and a half now. Since the first time, I've used KDE and I love it. Not that long ago, I've came across Plasma Active, and, as a result, mer. The question is: can I install Mer with PA on a tab wich had android as a stock OS? | 12:23 |
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| Misaka42 | The tab is Acer Iconia A500, if that really matters. | 12:26 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, depends which one and what level of functionality you expect | 12:26 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3822450 | 12:26 |
| Sage | err... those tests are in pvr drivers nm. | 12:27 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, we've had some sucess with Tegra 2 tablets, Archos G9 | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ah.. i think you're hitting the armhf stuff now :) | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | the linker renaming thing | 12:28 |
| Sage | ah, I recall you mentioned something about that | 12:28 |
| Sage | do I need to do something for that? | 12:29 |
| Misaka42 | vgrade, full functionality? | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | Misaka42: graphics acceleration, for example | 12:30 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, what SoC is the A500 | 12:30 |
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| Misaka42 | How do I find out? | 12:31 |
| Misaka42 | I mean, where should I look for it? | 12:31 |
| Misaka42 | I'm sorry for being noob, I have 0 exp with tablets. | 12:31 |
| vgrade | ok http://products.liliputing.com/database/Acer/Iconia%20Tab%20A500 | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | it's a nvidia tegra 2 t20 | 12:31 |
| vgrade | seems to be tegra 2 | 12:31 |
| Misaka42 | Ah. | 12:31 |
| Misaka42 | Yeah, it's Tegra 2 | 12:31 |
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| vgrade | Misaka42, does it have am onlocked bootloader? | 12:32 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, ie can you use nvflash tool with it | 12:32 |
| Misaka42 | I got the sbk code. | 12:32 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, so unlocked then? | 12:33 |
| Misaka42 | Yes, it is. | 12:33 |
| vgrade | Misaka42. ok, next would be kernel source avaiability as we need to make a few midifications to the andriod config | 12:33 |
| Misaka42 | Is it something I can do myself? | 12:35 |
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| vgrade | Misaka42, there is not a guide for A500 if thats what you are looking for but if you can use nvflash get kernel source and rebuild theres a good chance of getting Plasma Active up | 12:37 |
| Misaka42 | Well, I've got the acer's stock kernel source, honeycomb 3.2 | 12:40 |
| Misaka42 | Any advices on what should I do next or where should I read about what to do next? I'm sorry for bothering. | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | you're not bothering, all of us started a similar place and asked similar questions :) | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | first thunderstorm of the year | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | good time to turn off laptop.. | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:45 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, sec for links | 12:50 |
| Misaka42 | Thanks. | 12:51 |
| vgrade | See http://vetus.scientiam.org/2012/02/17/the-removal-of-ad-droid-from-an-asus-transformer-in-progress/ for a similar project on the transformer prime | 12:53 |
| vgrade | Macer is the guy on here working that | 12:53 |
| vgrade | Misaka42 ping back with any questons and we can take it forwards from that blog | 12:54 |
| Misaka42 | I'm not sure on why and what should I modify in the original kernel. | 12:57 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: /usr/bin/Xorg: error while loading shared libraries: libXfont.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 13:04 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: something is wrong somewhere | 13:04 |
| Sage | this is with .0.2 | 13:05 |
| Sage | and armv7hl | 13:05 |
| Sage | on panda this my report but I assume that n900 has the same thing | 13:05 |
| Sage | based on prelink output | 13:05 |
| Misaka42 | As I can see from the post, this Mace guy is still working on his project. I guess I have to wait untill he's done with it, and only then attempt to do something simmilar on my device. | 13:05 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, he went away to look at kernel compiling | 13:07 |
| vgrade | Misaka42 the reason why we need to recompile the kernel is that Mer uses Systemd init system so needs kernel options setting which aren't usually set in an andrios kernel. We also need to remoce some andriod options , see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide | 13:08 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: not sure what is wrong there as nothing related to Xorg or libXfont went in | 13:12 |
| Misaka42 | vgrade, I see. | 13:14 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: urgh | 13:24 |
| Sage | based on webui-ci the xorg rpm doesn't depend on the libXfont | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | maybe indirectly | 13:26 |
| Sage | maybe | 13:26 |
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| Sage | http://pastie.org/3822696 :/ | 13:27 |
| Sage | missing quite a many of those actually | 13:28 |
| * Sage check previous release | 13:29 | |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3822709 | 13:31 |
| Sage | 10 deps reduced and I guess it needs those all | 13:32 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: Hisiv's busybox can work in our system, and its command ping can work, nfs can work too | 13:34 |
| Sage | lbt: FYI ^ problem with .0.2 | 13:34 |
| bfederau | Hi. Does someone already work on https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316, because I will try to find a solution and create a patch for this bug | 13:34 |
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| Sage | bfederau: it is not set as ASSIGNED so nobody working on it I guess. | 13:36 |
| bfederau | oh right. missed it :) | 13:37 |
| lbt | looking | 13:37 |
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| bfederau | I have assigned the bug #316 to me then | 13:45 |
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| mdfe_ | Sage: how do we get changes for nspr into mer-next from cobs? | 14:06 |
| mdfe_ | using also submit requests? | 14:07 |
| lbt | mdfe_: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail | 14:07 |
| mdfe_ | thx | 14:07 |
| Misaka42 | vgrade, does the kernel need to be an android kernel? | 14:10 |
| byako | Is it possible to use someone's home project's repository in you own project in OBS ? | 14:10 |
| lbt | byako: yes | 14:11 |
| lbt | there are no 'special' projects | 14:11 |
| byako | that's what I thought. with this abstract names, aliases it's a bit complicated to setup.. doh | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i shall look at the bug logs | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | build | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | (thunderstorm has passed) | 14:12 |
| byako | Stskeeps: the real one ? Or was it a metaphor? | 14:12 |
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| Stskeeps | no, real thunderstorm, first i've seen this year here :P | 14:13 |
| byako | cool! | 14:13 |
| byako | Sage: is your home project mer:u8500 opened for access ? | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | on community obs there's really no secret projects | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | just remember home: projects may go away at any time | 14:15 |
| byako | Stskeeps: I understand. But from what I see, either it's buggy as hell or it's me who stupid enough to not get with simple build system... I like more first one.. I'm trying to use bin repo in my home project but it says that it can't find a package that actually in the repo.. | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | byako: ok, show me the 'meta'/'raw config' tab of your project? | 14:17 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: k | 14:17 |
| Sage | byako: the project is open for build however it is missing one piece of one package as it wasn't with oss license, thus I didn't upload the sources there | 14:18 |
| byako | Stskeeps: I assume you want to see some repos in there? I will add those (I'd just removed all of them ) | 14:18 |
| byako | Sage: yep, I know what you're talking about :) I"m trying to build that piece and will remove it from there as soono as I will get bin package | 14:19 |
| byako | Sage: and I'm updating your kernel package to 3.3.2 | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | byako: i just want to see what it says :) | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | byako: what snowboard revision do you have | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 14:20 |
| byako | A12, old one | 14:21 |
| byako | Stskeeps: ^ | 14:21 |
| byako | Stskeeps: will this be fine to read ? https://build.pub.meego.com/project/meta?project=home%3Abyako | 14:22 |
| byako | or is it better to paste it somewhere ? | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:23 |
| byako | it's building the package actually | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | it's fine | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: looks like a build that went totally bad | 14:26 |
| byako | did anyone managed to get Raspberry Pi from the first batch ? | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's not really 'first batch' but a flowing delivery. | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:29 |
| vgrade | Misaka42, kernel does not need to be an andriod one | 14:30 |
| byako | Stskeeps: huh? element14 says that they got first batch for delivery on 13th of Apr and in three days it was emtpy. 24 countries.. | 14:30 |
| byako | Finland is on the list. So somebody already got his pie. | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: didn't you get your retail pi? | 14:32 |
| Misaka42 | Is there any kernels I can use with mer right away? | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | kernels vary from device to device | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | on arm, typically | 14:33 |
| Misaka42 | It depends on hardware, right? | 14:34 |
| Misaka42 | Brb, gonna buy some canned coffe for ld23 | 14:34 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: only armv7hl or all? | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: all, and i'm really unsure of why | 14:35 |
| slaine | lbt, whats the git url for the setup-obs stuff again ? | 14:36 |
| slaine | things are likely quiet for the next hour | 14:36 |
| lbt | github /lbt/setup-obs | 14:36 |
| slaine | ta | 14:36 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, yes I did | 14:36 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, will validate our HA on it this weekend | 14:38 |
| Sage | byako: that A12 is quite new one I had A4 that isn't even supported by the upstream anymore :P | 14:40 |
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| dm8tbr | Alison_Chaiken: hi, you were trying the g9 mer/pa image? | 14:42 |
| byako | Sage: I see changelog and wonder what was that rev 4 :) | 14:42 |
| byako | so it's that old, huh | 14:42 |
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| * Stskeeps stares | 14:45 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | dm8tbr, I did try it, but my HDD model of G9 has only a 1.6 GB /data partition, and PA doesn't fit. | 14:47 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | I have to recompile the kernel to move its init to the HDD, and as Stskeeps pointed out, I may as well make a whole new image in OBS. | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | kernel in obs, image in sdk | 14:49 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I have to send a note to the PA doc writers; they should amend the instructions. | 14:50 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I'll send a detailed patch of how I switch the boot after I have it working. | 14:50 |
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| vgrade | Alison_Chaiken, the PA guys like me had a special G9 so our process was different to the new SDE ones. | 14:51 |
| vgrade | Alison_Chaiken, is the SDE process public now | 14:51 |
| dm8tbr | Alison_Chaiken: can I privmsg you about that | 14:52 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Sure, pm away. | 14:52 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I don't think it will be hard to switch the init, plus since I want to make mer-ivi I want to change which packages I use anyway. | 14:53 |
| Alison_Chaiken | I could take stuff out of PA to make the 1.6 GB large enough, but I need all kinds of stuff for IVI. | 14:53 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Unfortunately, I must now run to laundry room, pronto. | 14:53 |
| vgrade | Alison_Chaiken, thats mivi | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: fairly sure you can strip it down to ~400 even with your ivi stuff | 14:55 |
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| dm8tbr | running off muSD should be more convenient anyway | 15:00 |
| dm8tbr | and earlier mer/pa kernel did exactly that | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i can already tell this is going to be a very bad day for me.. | 15:00 |
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| Stskeeps | hello kaizerslawten | 15:02 |
| kaizerslawten | hello | 15:02 |
| kaizerslawten | im brazilian | 15:02 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: :( | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 15:02 |
| kaizerslawten | i'm using Mer | 15:03 |
| * Sage listens | 15:03 | |
| Stskeeps | kaizerslawten: cool, in where? | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: x86 doesn't exhibit problem, all arms, but not mipsel. | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | if mipsel does, it's a sb2 problem | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | (checking atm) | 15:04 |
| kaizerslawten | I'm using google translate to speak | 15:04 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: the issue might be just simple permission issue. I recall some library exports not working if lib didn't have +x, so maybe something similar but this time with executables? | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: maybe | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: the really idiotic part is that Requires: gets extracted correctly | 15:05 |
| sroedal | kaizerslawten: wow, must be cumbersome :) | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | the RPMs just doesn't have it | 15:05 |
| kaizerslawten | Stskeeps : in Nokia N800 | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | kaizerslawten: ah, so old Mer | 15:05 |
| kaizerslawten | yes | 15:05 |
| kaizerslawten | is running Mysql , php5 , apache2 and others softwares | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, yeah, it was cool for running random experiments | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | new mer is a bit different | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: %@%@ mipsel works fine | 15:08 |
| kaizerslawten | Stskeeps : I never saw running , u have screenshot | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | kaizerslawten: Mer is a core now, so people build UIs on top of that, and add hardware adaptations, but the nokia n800 one isn't that advanced | 15:09 |
| kaizerslawten | N800 is obsolete :-( | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | nah.. it's just that aftermarket hardware adaptation is much harder than people expect | 15:11 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: does MerUX run (slowly)? ;) | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i haven't tested | 15:11 |
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| dm8tbr | mkay | 15:12 |
| kaizerslawten | Stskeeps : want to run an RPM-based system on the Nokia N800, is this possible? | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | kaizerslawten: yes, new mer is rpm based | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | but don't expect to be able to use fedora arpms | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | rpms | 15:14 |
| kaizerslawten | Stskeeps : Where to find this version of Mer ?? | 15:15 |
| kaizerslawten | :D | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N8x0 | 15:16 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Stskeeps, I will consider my options. I'm not sure that for a development machine, I see a disadvantage to booting off HDD? | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | but very complicated | 15:16 |
| Alison_Chaiken | But maybe if I have to keep recompiling my own kernel all the time, that will turn into a maintenance headache. | 15:16 |
| kaizerslawten | Stskeeps : i'm going see :D | 15:17 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: :( | 15:18 |
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| kaizerslawten | Stskeeps : Thanks man ! | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: yeah, true | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | brb pizza | 15:19 |
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| slaine | lbt, Process for a combined setup seems to be, Frontend, Backend, signer, tweak, reboot | 15:24 |
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| lbt | tweak? | 15:25 |
| slaine | slight tweak to the patch area | 15:25 |
| slaine | allowing my workstation write access | 15:25 |
| slaine | $ip_access area that is | 15:25 |
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| lbt | ah, sure | 15:25 |
| slaine | I still get a failed when doing the fe step, just before it starts apache | 15:26 |
| slaine | but everything seems to come up on the reboot | 15:26 |
| lbt | can you pastie that | 15:26 |
| slaine | it's gone | 15:26 |
| lbt | ok | 15:26 |
| slaine | Basicaly, "rcobsapidelayed start" should give a green ok or something, but gives a red failed | 15:27 |
| slaine | There's no error message per se | 15:28 |
| vgrade | slaine, I had issues during that part as well. will pastie the next time I'm on that | 15:28 |
| lbt | I'll keep my eye open | 15:28 |
| slaine | I could find any logs that would indicate a problem though | 15:28 |
| slaine | and like I said,everything comes up on a reboot | 15:28 |
| slaine | I'll get MDS setup later and see about kicking off a rebuild over the weekend | 15:29 |
| slaine | have a good weekend folks | 15:29 |
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| lbt | try /srv/www/obs/api/log/delayed_job.log | 15:30 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i think we are to consider 0.2 as not suitable for release | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not entirely sure why this happens though | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: do you have a full build log from your armv7hl build for panda? | 15:50 |
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| Stskeeps | hello falexey :) | 16:09 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: yes but its not much http://pastie.org/3823505 | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: trying to assess if it's just Xorg or what else | 16:13 |
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| Sage | well to me it seemed it was mainly xorg | 16:14 |
| Sage | but can't be sure | 16:14 |
| Sage | the image booted ok | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | i just can't find out why - ldd of /usr/bin/Xorg is fine | 16:14 |
| Sage | well from my panda image two libs were missing at least and needed to install those first | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:15 |
| lbt | is it the rpm linked library dependency detection ? | 16:17 |
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| * lbt wonders about sb2 reverse mapping | 16:18 | |
| lbt | I get a bug about bash!=sh | 16:18 |
| kaizerslawten | hello guys | 16:18 |
| lbt | which is due to a symlink I think | 16:18 |
| * lbt stops musing :) | 16:19 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: it's really bizarre, because /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires reports it but it doesn't make it into the actual rpm | 16:21 |
| lbt | under sb2? | 16:22 |
| lbt | ie find-requires in the logs or are you doing a manual run? | 16:23 |
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| lbt | new line problems? | 16:25 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Linux IVI job in Nurnberg in my Inbox. | 16:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Ping me and I can forward. | 16:33 |
| E-P | a bit too far away, closer to middle/north germany I am looking for | 16:35 |
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| sts|home | lbt: monster hiccup | 16:44 |
| sts|home | seems to have crashed | 16:44 |
| * sts|home sends reset request | 16:47 | |
| lbt | yep | 16:48 |
| lbt | " | 16:48 |
| lbt | phost3.in.merproject.org | 16:48 |
| lbt | 16:48 | |
| lbt | View Service Details For This Host | 16:49 |
| lbt | DOWN | 16:49 |
| lbt | up now | 16:49 |
| sts|home | not yet | 16:49 |
| lbt | ping | 16:49 |
| sts|home | yeah | 16:49 |
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| sts|home | lbt: do you have time for checking why VPN isn't active on monster | 16:54 |
| lbt | looking | 16:54 |
| lbt | it's the tap0 not coming on reboot | 16:55 |
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| lbt | openvpn --mktun --dev tap0; ifup tap0; /etc/init.d/openvpn restart; brctl addif vlan110 tap0 | 16:56 |
| lbt | fixed | 16:56 |
| sts|home | k | 16:57 |
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| lbt | nothing in the logs - maybe we should run syslog/netconsole to a remote machine :/ | 17:00 |
| lbt | anyhow... I have to wrap up for the evening | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | 2seeya | 17:00 |
| lbt | we have 31 hosts up, 1 down (cbe) | 17:01 |
| lbt | so the monitoring was working - I saw phost3 go down and come back | 17:01 |
| lbt | I don't think mail is setup quite right yet | 17:02 |
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| sledges | good weekend everybuddy! | 17:02 |
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| CosmoHill | what's the voodoo that you to, Stskeeps? | 17:19 |
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| Stskeeps | i have to debug internal rpm dependency calculator | 17:32 |
| CosmoHill | I'm doing better at work | 17:33 |
| CosmoHill | even tho I've had to redesign part of the database and update the pages that use it | 17:33 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill, have a deserved weekedn off | 17:49 |
| CosmoHill | it's will be nice | 17:49 |
| CosmoHill | my anxiety has been going all over the place the last three weeks | 17:50 |
| vgrade | sounds like you have settled in though | 17:50 |
| CosmoHill | yeah, once I got there today I was okay | 17:50 |
| CosmoHill | my first full week of paid work since 2007 | 17:52 |
| vgrade | the novelty wears off after 20 odd years, I can tell you | 17:57 |
| CosmoHill | as long as I'm not in the same job in 20 years :) | 18:00 |
| vgrade | my Grandad was in the same company 15 - 65 with a few years off serving in the army | 18:01 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm a web developer in a gun shop, go figure | 18:01 |
| _av500_ | they have a web gun? | 18:02 |
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| CosmoHill | boss pointed a air rifle at me, does that count? | 18:03 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: found! | 18:53 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, 0.2 issue? | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 18:58 |
| vgrade | easy fix? | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | we were missing http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=rpm.git;a=blob_plain;f=rpm-4.9.x-elfattr.patch;h=7d6ed4f49c567ecf1c9d1618a5c87fcb9034408d;hb=f17 | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't say easy, i do need to rebuild some packages now | 18:58 |
| vgrade | why has that hit now, did rpm get an update? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | anywhere between pure chance and bad luck | 19:01 |
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| vgrade | feeling a bit down today, got declined for my Akademy talk | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that sucks | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | but there is serious competition on those talks too | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | what did you submit about? | 19:04 |
| vgrade | Device Adaptation for Mer Devices Focusing on Spark Tablet | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:04 |
| vgrade | was hoping to be part of a spark session | 19:04 |
| vgrade | lbt ^ | 19:05 |
| vgrade | still a chance for a BOF session so fingers crossed | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: saw the one i proposed for devaamo? | 19:10 |
| vgrade | I did, I also sent my Academy one to Jukka | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | though that's not correct place, cfp@ is :) | 19:14 |
| vgrade | there has been some Pi updates which need updating in the HA | 19:14 |
| vgrade | yea I sent to him before the cfp was open | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | ok, make sure it's sent to http://summit.devaamo.fi/cfp/ | 19:15 |
| vgrade | will do , was looking at flights today, bitch to get to from UK | 19:16 |
| vgrade | and expensive | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | sure? there's a ryanair flight | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | i thought | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | or not | 19:18 |
| vgrade | yea I saw one diret getting there | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | found tampere-london stansted at 117.17 EUR | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | without administration fee | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | err.. maybe i should look oppositely | 19:19 |
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| vgrade | I'll check ryanair direct, I'm on skyscanner | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:20 |
| vgrade | which does not give me a direct return on the sunday | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:21 |
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| Stskeeps | find an excuse for business meetings on the monday? :) | 19:22 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: nice. | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: fix in review atm | 20:41 |
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