Wednesday, 2012-03-28

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mdfe_morning all07:53
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Stskeepsmorn mdfe_07:56
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Stskeepsrippel: - can you run through those and verify you have those enabled?08:26
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Stskeeps(and that they're actually enabled after doing a 'make oldconfig' and checking .config)08:30
rippelHi Stskeeps, thank you, I'm looking into it08:31
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rippelStskeeps, I'm using buildroot to build my kernel, would it make any difference?08:38
Stskeepsrippel: shouldn't matter08:39
lbtmorning all08:40
enc0demorning lbt08:40
lbtso... I got done08:41
enc0delbt: do you have any idea how i can fix the mount error in the mersdk?08:42
Stskeepslbt: on cobs yet?08:42
lbtenc0de: right - I wasn't too good yesterday afternoon - lets take another look08:43
lbtStskeeps: not yet ... doing it now08:43
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* Stskeeps hopes that testing will work well08:51
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E-PStskeeps: what kind of testing are you doing? manual/semi-manual?08:52
StskeepsE-P: right now we do smoke testing, as in, build using new image, boot up something like Nemo, does anything break08:52
Stskeepsmost of this will be done in early phases instead, ie, when the change comes in in the first place, sanity checking08:53
Stskeepsit's not good enough yet, but we check basic problems08:53
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Stskeepshence why we're looking deep into the QA side of things08:54
E-Pgood to know08:54
E-Pwe could have a initial qa meeting someday08:54
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E-Pany wishes for the meeting time?09:00
Stskeepsperhaps before the mer release management meeting, then it can overflow into there if needed09:01
Stskeepsperhaps it's better to start out on mailing list first09:01
Stskeepsthen we have more concise initial discussions09:01
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E-Pok, I can start the discussion and propose the meeting time09:04
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* harbaum is pondering if he should order a c71 from hong kong ...09:07
harbaum€99 seems like one can't do much wrong09:07
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lbtenc0de: OK ... lets take a look at your loop issue09:21
enc0deyes after restarting and remounting ... everything is the same09:22
vgradeharbaum, make sure you get either a 1f or 2m model.  The new M3C71-1M model with 1GB may have changed the boot method09:23
vgradeharbaum so current images are not booting09:24
harbaumvgrade: any 512m model is fine?09:25
vgradeharbaum, yes09:25
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harbaumvgrade: thanks. i was already tempted by the 1g :-)09:27
lbtenc0de: so ... in your SDK can you do: losetup -a09:28
lbtsudo losetup -a09:28
vgradeharbaum, hopefully I can get that booting , maybe worth holding off for a couple of days09:29
enc0delbt: yes i can but there is no output09:29
lbtdd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/big count=10 bs=1M09:31
lbtsudo losetup /dev/loop0 /tmp/big09:31
lbtsudo losetup -a09:31
harbaumvgrade: ok, it's absolutely not urgent. i'll ping you in a week?09:32
vgradeharbaum, wilko09:32
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Stskeepslbt: /me makes changelog generator09:34
lbtStskeeps: OK09:34
harbaumvgrade: This one looks good to me:
harbaumBut i wonder why the image talks about a c91 ...09:37
enc0delbt: [MerSDK] lmatt@ws-lmatt:~$ sudo losetup -a09:41
enc0de/dev/loop0: [0811]:9448483 (/tmp/big)09:41
lbtOK sudo mkfs -text4 /dev/loop009:41
lbtStskeeps: <mapping project="Core-old:armv7l" path="obs-projects/Core-old/armv7l" binaries="obs-repos/Core:armv7l:0.20111208.1" reponame="Core:armv7l" />09:42
enc0deshould i post the whole output? it is much09:42
lbthow useful is core-old09:42
lbtenc0de: no - use if there is more than 1-2 lines09:42
lbtbut if it succeeded that's fine09:43
vgradeharbaum, looks like they just have the wrong image09:43
lbtit shows that loop device is OK09:43
lbtso there's something up in mic...09:43
Stskeepslbt: if it's a oneliner, not terribly09:43
lbtStskeeps: it is.  I'm thinking to have just -latest and -next  - we also have one named release09:44
lbtproject="Core:i586:0.20120120.1"   for all arches09:44
Stskeepslbt: yeah, we should ask mdfe if they still need that one09:44
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enc0delbt: now the same error comes up with a other loop09:52
enc0deError <mount>: Error creating ext3 filesystem on disk /dev/loop1209:52
lbtenc0de: just a sec - in a meeting09:52
Stskeepscrazy question, do you have device mapper module loaded?09:52
Stskeepsor activated in kernel09:52
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Stskeepslbt: in git commands, how would i cat a file from a certain tag?10:03
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lbtStskeeps: git show <commit>:<file>10:22
Stskeepsworks with tags too?10:22
lbt<commit> can be a tag10:22
lbtor any other spooky syntax :)10:22
lbtmore coffee then enc0de.... (but loop*12* ... that's a lot)10:23
Stskeepsnah, loop1 + partition 210:24
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lbtok - starting updatestorm10:42
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lbtenc0de: do you have a mic log file for that failed build10:45
lbtStskeeps: so tomorrow morning is the Hetzner shutdown10:45
vgradelbt, its the one on the vibrante wikipage10:48
vgradelbt, I think you tried it with sebas and I10:48
lbtyes, and iirc it worked for me10:49
lbtI need to figure out what is really breaking in mic10:52
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lbtand mic seems to ignore --logfile=10:56
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enc0delbt: sorry was at lucnh11:13
Aardlbt: hetzner shutdown?11:14
enc0dei have only the lof from --logfile= (
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: How could I start a program as a background progress when the system boots up ?11:21
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lbtenc0de: hmm not exactly helpful11:41
lbtZiQiangHuan: use systemd to run it as a service11:41
ZiQiangHuanlbt: yes, is there a example for me to follow?11:46
lbtZiQiangHuan: I'll look for one... just in a meeting :)11:47
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: two ways ,systemd or /etc/xdg/autostart11:47
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ZiQiangHuanStskeeps:  Is there any difference between them ? It seems /etc/xdg/autostart easier, right?11:50
StskeepsZiQiangHuan: autostart is processes being launched as user, in X session, systemd is root11:51
enc0delbt: i know :(11:57
lbtincidentally my partitioned loop devices are /dev/mapper/loop0p212:01
lbtso loop12 does look odd12:02
lbtis this ubuntu12:02
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: Now I add a *.desktop file, and got my program run when system boot up12:06
ZiQiangHuanStskeeps: I want to run it as a systemd service, so any examples I can follow?12:08
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lbtZiQiangHuan: here is a small example
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enc0delbt: yes it is12:34
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ZiQiangHuanlbt: Ok, I'll test this tomorrow. It's 20:40 Beijing time now. I will go back  home.12:43
lbtZiQiangHuan: OK let me know how it goes12:43
ZiQiangHuanlbt: ok12:44
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rippelHi guys, thank you for your help until now. I've recompiled my kernel and nfs-mounted the mer rootfs13:33
rippelunfortunately the kernel hangs at a certain point, and can't figure out what's happening13:34
rippelI've posted the output here, if anyone fancies a look:
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sroedalcool stuff:
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Stskeepsfirst might be a bit of a stretch, helium and helium reborn too :)15:07
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vgradeStskeeps, will be a good test of QT5 port15:11
Stskeepswebkit tends to stress things a bit ;)15:13
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Stskeepshello pjovanovic15:24
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jampehi there15:35
Stskeepshello jampe :)15:35
jampehello Stskeeps :)15:35
Stskeepswelcome - so what brings you here?15:35
jampei was wondering, do you have good experience with a particular brand of sd card?15:36
jampeon n90015:36
jampeit might be a good thing to include in the wiki too15:36
Stskeepsclass 6 and the sd card brands are a jungle15:37
Stskeepssome aren't even really the brands they claim they are15:37
jampei thought that might be the case15:38
jampei've just moved to hong kong, so there's a lot of that going on here15:38
Stskeepsah, quite nice city15:38
Stskeepswas there a few years back for a conference15:38
jampei just missed the asia game conference before moving here15:39
jampebut i need to check up on stuff like that15:39
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jampeanyway, you're saying that class 6 is a good bet?15:39
Stskeepsyeah, i myself use transcend15:40
jampethe one i've used is class 10, and it's performing very slowly15:40
Stskeepswell, just remember that sometimes things are smoke and mirrors in mobile15:40
jampethis one is transcend too15:40
jampei suppose so15:40
Stskeepsie, the app might have not launched yet but it looks like it has15:40
Stskeepswe don't have many smoke and mirrors15:40
jampeheh, all right15:41
jampeit's really late, so i must be off, but thanks a lot for the advice, man15:41
jampethat kind of thing makes me want to show up here again15:42
Stskeepsfeel free to hang around15:42
jampethank you15:42
jampetalk to you sometime later then, perhaps15:42
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bigbluehatStskeeps: pointed a couple SUSE and RedHat guys to #mer17:46
bigbluehathanging at posscon.org17:46
bigbluehatpushing it on anyone who'll listen ;)17:46
virtualdthere's no live video?17:53
virtualdor audio17:54
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vgradeStskeeps, I remember you had a link to a report on sdcard performace. We're seeing very different performance on vivaldi, same hardware , same image different cards.  Just wanted to do some tests20:57
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