| Stskeeps | i'm fairly certain that's what happened | 00:00 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 00:00 |
| dm8tbr | what with the whole busybox and licencing controversy? | 00:00 |
| lbt | went away | 00:00 |
| lbt | oh, the replacement project went away | 00:01 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3617875 #126 #246 | 00:01 |
| dm8tbr | I didn't really follow what went on there | 00:01 |
| lbt | they actually met each other IRL and stopped fighting | 00:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yeah, just remove those | 00:02 |
| virtuald | was it just some people who didn't understand the gpl or were trolling? | 00:02 |
| virtuald | heh | 00:02 |
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| lbt | I should check if it really did go away - fairly sure that's what I read though | 00:03 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: same pastie #81 - is that a note-to-self or a snipped log entry ? | 00:04 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ah, i was looking for that line | 00:05 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/3618199 | 00:07 |
| Stskeeps | underneath the 'switch to i486' commit | 00:07 |
| lbt | ok | 00:08 |
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| lbt | well, 9mins late | 00:09 |
| Stskeeps | we didn't say what timezone | 00:10 |
| Stskeeps | however, i do think it's time for me to crash in bed :P | 00:12 |
| lbt | I just got the call too | 00:12 |
| lbt | release done - so have a good night :) | 00:13 |
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| aspect | I just found my old n800 in a box with a crufty edition of os2008 on it. Is Mer what I want to be re-imaging it with? | 06:37 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 08:00 |
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| Stskeeps | interesting, discussions on a "GNOME OS" | 08:17 |
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| leinir | *nods* That one's been coming for a while... it's kind of sad :P | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | they should just base on Mer, after all, we give them fairly nice independence to do what they want | 08:48 |
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| Stskeeps | moin mdfe | 09:17 |
| mdfe | good morning :) | 09:18 |
| jbos | hi | 09:18 |
| jbos | how is it going mdfe | 09:18 |
| jbos | :) | 09:18 |
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| jbos | hey I'm just trying to get sb2 working in mer sdk | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | what errors do you get and what instructions do you follow? | 09:19 |
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| jbos | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1524921 | 09:23 |
| jbos | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 + some good guessing | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | show me how you initialize the target | 09:25 |
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| jbos | sb2-init -d -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic nemo-n950 /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok, rpm -qa | grep cross | 09:32 |
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| jbos | rpm -qa | grep cross | 09:34 |
| jbos | cross-armv7hl-gcc-4.6.3-1.11.i586 | 09:34 |
| jbos | cross-armv7hl-binutils-2.22-1.12.i586 | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | show me exact output of sb2-init | 09:35 |
| jbos | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1524936 | 09:37 |
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| jbos | collect2: cannot find 'ld' << doesn't look good | 09:38 |
| mdfe | yepp | 09:38 |
| lbt | use -n in sb2-init command line | 09:39 |
| mdfe | same issue in http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1524921 | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | what lbt said | 09:40 |
| lbt | morning all | 09:40 |
| jbos | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1524950 | 09:41 |
| jbos | so still complain about ld | 09:41 |
| jbos | but looks better | 09:41 |
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| jbos | mhm doing a simple sb2 gcc hello.c -o hello >>>ends in: collect2: cannot find 'ld' | 09:54 |
| jbos | guess i miss some package of the "all needed packages" part :) | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: ls -l /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: ls -l /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld , i mean | 09:58 |
| jbos | -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 281892 Feb 7 15:05 /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | ok, try install binutils and gcc glibc-devel in the target? | 09:59 |
| jbos | (with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/sbin/libgcc_post_upgrade;4f65b24f: cpio: open failed - Permission denied | 10:02 |
| jbos | oO | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | sb2 -R and remembered to chown -R youruser and chmod -R u+w ? | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, we need wrapper scripts.. | 10:07 |
| lbt | they're coming.... | 10:08 |
| jbos | ok | 10:09 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: since you're doing the sdk release matching release, you want to upload kickstarts/ too ? | 10:09 |
| jbos | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1524960 | 10:10 |
| jbos | still same ld issue | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | binutils, not bintools | 10:12 |
| jbos | still :( | 10:13 |
| jbos | i mean it already complain at init | 10:14 |
| jbos | shouldn't ld come also from host? /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld ?? | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's what i'm wondering about | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | can you try with sb2 -m obs-rpm-build instead? | 10:15 |
| jbos | mhm | 10:19 |
| jbos | /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot open output file hello: Read-only file system | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | echo $PWD | 10:20 |
| jbos | /home/jbos/n950rootfs | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok, move one directory up | 10:22 |
| jbos | whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000 | 10:22 |
| jbos | oh | 10:23 |
| jbos | :) | 10:23 |
| jbos | psch... :) | 10:23 |
| jbos | works | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 10:23 |
| * Stskeeps makes a mental note we need to improve that side of things.. | 10:23 | |
| jbos | so but only in sb2 -m obs-rpm-build | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | wonder why that is | 10:24 |
| jbos | when doing ~| sb2 gcc hello.c -o hello still ld issue | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | try -m accel ? | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | :cough: | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | woops... | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | my sync script just nuked my armv7hl obs repo :) | 10:26 |
| jbos | with -m accel? | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | no, unrelated | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | well | 10:28 |
| jbos | like sb2 -m accel gcc... | 10:28 |
| jbos | ? | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | this is a good test to see if the mer resurrection procedure works | 10:28 |
| jbos | invalid mode | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, i managed to accidentially remove a bunch of packages from CI's Core:armv7hl | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: let's see what problems this causes | 10:31 |
| lbt | how? | 10:31 |
| lbt | ie osc, accidental rm | 10:32 |
| lbt | oh, and yes, I'll do an SDK release too | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: sync script that's supposed to align CI projects with fakeobs's core's state | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | one of the big reasons why i want copy-project | 10:33 |
| lbt | right | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | so now i get to make a resurrected armv7hl copy with the released obs repo | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:33 |
| lbt | hmm | 10:33 |
| lbt | what happens to CI counts and things I wonder | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i wonder about that too | 10:34 |
| lbt | will it matter? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | CI count is rev anyway | 10:34 |
| lbt | if only we had a sane versioning system :) | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | either way, this is a good disaster preperation excersise | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:34 |
| lbt | so, what else happens post-release | 10:35 |
| lbt | SDK | 10:35 |
| lbt | reference VM (soon) | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | kickstarer files | 10:36 |
| lbt | kickstartes? | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | er, kickstarts | 10:36 |
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| lbt | so this is just unpacking them from the rpm as a convenience | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | right, whatever works for you, they just have to be using /0.20120315.1/ as paths | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | in .ks | 10:37 |
| lbt | where do they live? | 10:38 |
| lbt | and do you have an existing script of any sort? | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | well, the only thing that exists is mer-kickstarter-configs in core | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | as you didn't want kickstarter in core, these have to be done sdk-side | 10:39 |
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| Stskeeps | mer-kickstarter-configs has the reference images and those are the ones that go in kickstarts/ | 10:39 |
| lbt | and currently they're not published anywhere | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | right | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | that's the releaser's role | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | so, generate a run with kickstarter against reference images and @BUILD_ID@ -> 0.20120315.1 | 10:40 |
| lbt | that's fine - I was just worried I'd completely missed them in the past | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | i don't normally do .ks'es for prereleases but given our horrid success in last images, i think we do need to make them.. | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | and use it as part of release sanity testing | 10:40 |
| lbt | *nod* | 10:41 |
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| Stskeeps | when i say 'resurrect', i grab latest OBS repo release and point Core:armv7hl to fakeobs for building | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | btw | 10:41 |
| lbt | which will generate something != a fs backup/restore | 10:42 |
| jbos | what is the diff between building inside with sb2 -m obs-rpm-build and sb2 gcc ... | 10:43 |
| jbos | is it technicaly 'the same result?' | 10:43 |
| lbt | jbos: yes (assuming the same -m mode) | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yeah, but at least we're training how merproject looks like if someone nukes germany from above | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: SB2 has this thing called modes which is basically how it changes reality" | 10:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I have no problem with it | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | ie, where paths are redirected to, what happens if you run certain binaries, etc.. | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | there's a default mode set in sb2-init, that's what happens when you do sb2 on it's own | 10:45 |
| jbos | okay | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: think i just uncovered a bug in fakeobs | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | what's wrong there? | 11:02 |
| lbt | well, it stops at qt which appears a tad small | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | uhhhhhh | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | well | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | now we got two problems | 11:04 |
| lbt | *apart* from that ... | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | will you look into the qt issue then while i go bang my head against the wall? | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's sunday and it -feels- like monday | 11:06 |
| lbt | yep... | 11:06 |
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| Termana | morning | 11:07 |
| lbt | CI counts? | 11:07 |
| lbt | can't see anything else odd (unless timestamps should be preserved?) | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: CI counts are always 1 | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | i think prjfetcher-mertools ran out of space last night | 11:07 |
| lbt | it did but I extended it | 11:07 |
| lbt | I think I need to review how these things work in the event of failure - the main issue is wget isn't trivially restartable | 11:08 |
| lbt | but rsync should be | 11:08 |
| lbt | ( /me states the bleedin' obvious) | 11:08 |
| Stskeeps | well the good news is that 0.20120315.0.3 == .1 for all intents and purposes | 11:08 |
| Stskeeps | you obviously can't grab from CI obs as i just nuked armv7hl by accident | 11:09 |
| * lbt shuts down other stuff | 11:10 | |
| Stskeeps | i think next week should be process week | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: from my respective i have no quibbles against cp -ar 0.20120315.0.3 0.20120315.1 | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | we need to verify obs-repos/ aren't harmed though | 11:13 |
| lbt | OK - so I'm on monster and sorting releases then - just so we don't tread on each other | 11:18 |
| jbos | btw. lbt stskeeps it would be good to have a devel n950 image stuffed with major devel libs :) | 11:20 |
| jbos | and tools | 11:20 |
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| jbos | mhm there is no zip for n950 available? | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: ideally you can install tools and devel libs yourself | 11:21 |
| jbos | sb2 -eR zypper install zip | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: yeah, zip was first lately added to mer core | 11:22 |
| lbt | jbos: I plan to explain how Nemo (and other vendors) can provide that for you | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: :armv7hl building away | 11:24 |
| mdfe | Stskeeps: hi, following patches are not upstream in pulseaudio 1.1 --> http://pastebin.com/AKnMitcm | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | only? not bad | 11:30 |
| jbos | mhm okay so how to get QtGui QtNetwork QtCore QtOpenGL QtDeclarative ? i can only find qt | 11:31 |
| jbos | which has 18kb | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: libqt-devel? | 11:32 |
| jbos | mhm why doesn't it find it on search | 11:33 |
| jbos | let me do a refresh | 11:33 |
| jbos | oh, the one who can type is clearly king... | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | search is broken in zypper | 11:34 |
| jbos | mhm and this ends in Problem: nothing provides qt-qmake = 4.8.0-1.19 needed by libqt-devel-4.8.0-1.19.armv7hl | 11:35 |
| lbt | found the error in the release script log - it wasn't fatal :( | 11:35 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: did you do some cleaning up? | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: hm? | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | a little bit, not a lot | 11:39 |
| lbt | there's 6Gb free now - http://pastie.org/3620790 <- just before I ran the release | 11:41 |
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| lbt | I thought we only needed 7Gb | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i removed some old prereleases in mertools | 11:41 |
| lbt | OK - but do we need more than 7Gb to do a release now | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | maybe on mertools | 11:43 |
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| jbos | any clue what to do? when i try to install libqt4-devel it complaines about missing qt-qmake | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | jbos: what -m are you using? | 11:48 |
| jbos | just sb2 -eR zypper in libqt-devel | 11:49 |
| jbos | obs-rpm-build is the same | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 11:50 |
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| jbos | its in the repo for /armv7l/ | 11:56 |
| jbos | but not for /armv7hl/ | 11:57 |
| jbos | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ | 11:57 |
| jbos | its also here: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/next/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ | 11:58 |
| jbos | is it save to take that? | 11:58 |
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| Stskeeps | guess what screwup we're fixing at the moment :) | 11:59 |
| jbos | next :) | 12:00 |
| jbos | or latest :) | 12:00 |
| jbos | latest seems more screwupperd :) | 12:01 |
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| lbt | jbos: try now | 12:11 |
| jbos | ah I already too next O:-) guess i want to break it very beadly, but it still work | 12:13 |
| jbos | added repo, install qt | 12:13 |
| jbos | 'what could go wrong' :Y | 12:13 |
| lbt | "next" is slightly interesting as just after a release it points to the old pre-release | 12:14 |
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| lbt | I'm happy that this makes sense for a vendor though | 12:14 |
| jbos | now me is bit confused :) | 12:14 |
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| jbos | but however it works at least until nuw | 12:14 |
| lbt | in http://releases.merproject.org/releases/ look at the dates of latest and next | 12:23 |
| lbt | ok, off to cook bbiab | 12:23 |
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| * timoph patched testrunner-lite a bit | 15:04 | |
| Stskeeps | aoh? | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | oh? | 15:04 |
| timoph | patched out the nokia copyright disclaimer that you get on every run :) | 15:05 |
| timoph | got tired of it | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | haha ;) | 15:05 |
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| timoph | but anyway. seems to work in the sdk | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | did you get eat anywhere yet? | 15:07 |
| timoph | also moved planner & co to my home project | 15:07 |
| timoph | also in my home | 15:07 |
| timoph | only removed the hacky selftest package from it | 15:07 |
| timoph | didn | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | i have testrunner on devel:quality on webui-ci.tspre.org at least, i think we'll put them in mer:tools initially | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | (if lbt don't mind..) | 15:08 |
| * timoph curses the ideapad's kb layout | 15:08 | |
| timoph | yeah. Just need some staging are from them | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | i've considered a bit to bring my keyboard and "just" my ideapad and turn around the display when i go on a travel next weekend | 15:08 |
| lbt | sane place for them | 15:09 |
| timoph | also planner & ui might need some updating | 15:09 |
| timoph | to me seems that the packaged versions are a bit old | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | is there upgraded sw in git or? | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so we're past the release issue now? | 15:10 |
| timoph | tool button icons didn't show when run from sdk | 15:10 |
| lbt | we seem to be, yes | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: yeah, no icon sets | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, let us notify on mailing list then | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | be good vendor interface providers, etc | 15:10 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: that's weird. I thought it used it's own icons | 15:10 |
| timoph | I have to check that | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: not sure | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | but it probably doesn't help we don't have standard icon sets | 15:11 |
| timoph | might be | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: Core:armv7hl still building, not going to be done for 12 hours probably | 15:11 |
| timoph | I'll take a peek at the code a bit later | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: thanks for looking into this | 15:11 |
| timoph | np | 15:11 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I got a clean wget for the release so I redid the grab/sync | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: you did not.. | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: you re-did grabbing? but Core:armv7hl is totally screwed up | 15:13 |
| lbt | I thought it was screwed *after* the release ? | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes, and grabbing talks to the obs and uses the rsync of the repos | 15:13 |
| * Stskeeps glances at martini bottle | 15:14 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: can you write in command line form exactly what you did.. | 15:14 |
| lbt | export NO_GRAB=; export SKIPWGET=1; export REL=0.20120315.1; export PRERELEASE=; export NORSYNC=; export RESYNC=; tools/createrelease.sh $REL http://fe.in.merproject.org/public rsync://be.in.merproject.org/obsrepos 2>&1 | tee log-fix0.20120315.1 | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | mm, ok, that might be ok | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, looks fine | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | i just thought you had done it without NO_GRAB | 15:16 |
| lbt | phew - I thought so | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | if this is sunday, i don't want to know what monday feels like | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:17 |
| lbt | blue? | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | which reminds me.. bug triage | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 15:17 |
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| * timoph ponders | 16:18 | |
| timoph | just talked with sampos and we're going to fork at least testrunner-lite | 16:19 |
| timoph | just thinking if we need to rename it | 16:19 |
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| Crnkoj | hey guys | 16:20 |
| Crnkoj | vgrade here ? | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: forking because? ongoing internal development? :) | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't be surprised if it was still in use around various companies | 16:27 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: just feel safer putting it somewhere else than the meego namespace | 16:36 |
| timoph | continuation might be actually better word than forkin | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, makes sense | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | the gitorious contract for meego.* will go away someday anyway | 16:38 |
| timoph | gitorious.org/test-execution-tools | 16:38 |
| timoph | just planning to put exec tools like the name suggests there. | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 16:39 |
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| jbos | who it worked finaly :) | 16:43 |
| jbos | got kind of boot2gecko to n9 :D | 16:43 |
| jbos | still lot of issues around but hey :D | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | boot2gecko on top of..mer? | 16:51 |
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| niqt | hi | 17:03 |
| jbos | yes, well actually on top of nemo | 17:05 |
| jbos | with killed meegotouchhome | 17:06 |
| jbos | still need X since I didn't yet managed to get device working without X | 17:06 |
| jbos | also gl driver seem only to provide PBuffer in X | 17:06 |
| jbos | which is needed to get webgl working | 17:07 |
| jbos | I wonder if pbuffer work with wayland on n950 | 17:07 |
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| alterego | jbos, I think Stskeeps was looking at SGX on wayland | 17:32 |
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| jbos | I got them sort of working (2d) in framebuffer only - raw painting | 17:35 |
| jbos | but well as soon as it got 3d it failed | 17:36 |
| jbos | btw. its same crap with tegra2 linux driver,... they are also depending on X | 17:36 |
| alterego | I'm just runninf X with QtQuick for my UX projects | 17:36 |
| alterego | Tegra is more difficult it was a pita ti get those drivers for armv7hl | 17:37 |
| alterego | And like nvidia on desktop they are hardwired for X11 | 17:37 |
| jbos | yes | 17:37 |
| jbos | and those are locking fb for "other" access | 17:38 |
| jbos | like a security 'feature' so y can not do screenshots :) | 17:38 |
| alterego | Heh | 17:38 |
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| bennypr0fane_ | Hello, I want to try nemo on my N900. My SD card reader is broken though, but I have this USB adapter for my micro SD, so I'm wondering if can use that for mounting the image. So the microSD would be on the USB port | 22:36 |
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