Sunday, 2012-03-18

Stskeepsi'm fairly certain that's what happened00:00
dm8tbrwhat with the whole busybox and licencing controversy?00:00
lbtwent away00:00
lbtoh, the replacement project went away00:01
lbt  #126 #24600:01
dm8tbrI didn't really follow what went on there00:01
lbtthey actually met each other IRL and stopped fighting00:02
Stskeepslbt: yeah, just remove those00:02
virtualdwas it just some people who didn't understand the gpl or were trolling?00:02
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lbtI should check if it really did go away - fairly sure that's what I read though00:03
lbtStskeeps: same pastie #81 - is that a note-to-self or a snipped log entry ?00:04
Stskeepslbt: ah, i was looking for that line00:05
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Stskeepsunderneath the 'switch to i486' commit00:07
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lbtwell, 9mins late00:09
Stskeepswe didn't say what timezone00:10
Stskeepshowever, i do think it's time for me to crash in bed :P00:12
lbtI just got the call too00:12
lbtrelease done - so have a good night :)00:13
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aspectI just found my old n800 in a box with a crufty edition of os2008 on it.  Is Mer what I want to be re-imaging it with?06:37
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Stskeepsinteresting, discussions on a "GNOME OS"08:17
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leinir*nods* That one's been coming for a while... it's kind of sad :P08:47
Stskeepsthey should just base on Mer, after all, we give them fairly nice independence to do what they want08:48
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Stskeepsmoin mdfe09:17
mdfegood morning :)09:18
jboshow is it going mdfe09:18
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jboshey I'm just trying to get sb2 working in mer sdk09:19
Stskeepswhat errors do you get and what instructions do you follow?09:19
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jbos  + some good guessing09:24
Stskeepsshow me how you initialize the target09:25
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jbossb2-init -d -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic nemo-n950 /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc09:31
Stskeepsok, rpm -qa | grep cross09:32
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jbosrpm -qa | grep cross09:34
Stskeepsshow me exact output of sb2-init09:35
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jboscollect2: cannot find 'ld' << doesn't look good09:38
lbtuse -n in sb2-init command line09:39
mdfesame issue in
Stskeepswhat lbt said09:40
lbtmorning all09:40
jbosso still complain about ld09:41
jbosbut looks better09:41
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jbosmhm doing a simple sb2 gcc hello.c -o hello       >>>ends in: collect2: cannot find 'ld'09:54
jbosguess i miss some package of the "all needed packages" part :)09:57
Stskeepsjbos: ls -l /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc09:57
Stskeepsjbos: ls -l /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld , i mean09:58
jbos-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 281892 Feb  7 15:05 /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc09:58
Stskeepsok, try install binutils and gcc glibc-devel in the target?09:59
jbos(with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/sbin/libgcc_post_upgrade;4f65b24f: cpio: open failed - Permission denied10:02
Stskeepssb2 -R and remembered to chown -R youruser and chmod -R u+w ?10:04
Stskeepsyeah, we need wrapper scripts..10:07
lbtthey're coming....10:08
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Stskeepslbt: since you're doing the sdk release matching release, you want to upload kickstarts/ too ?10:09
jbosstill same ld issue10:11
Stskeepsbinutils, not bintools10:12
jbosstill :(10:13
jbosi mean it already complain at init10:14
jbosshouldn't ld come also from host? /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld  ??10:15
Stskeepsyeah, that's what i'm wondering about10:15
Stskeepscan you try with sb2 -m obs-rpm-build instead?10:15
jbos/opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot open output file hello: Read-only file system10:19
Stskeepsecho $PWD10:20
Stskeepsok, move one directory up10:22
jboswhoami: cannot find name for user ID 100010:22
jbospsch... :)10:23
* Stskeeps makes a mental note we need to improve that side of things..10:23
jbosso but only in sb2 -m obs-rpm-build10:24
Stskeepswonder why that is10:24
jboswhen doing  ~| sb2 gcc hello.c -o hello still ld issue10:24
Stskeepstry -m accel ?10:25
Stskeepsmy sync script just nuked my armv7hl obs repo :)10:26
jboswith -m accel?10:28
Stskeepsno, unrelated10:28
jboslike sb2 -m accel gcc...10:28
Stskeepsthis is a good test to see if the mer resurrection procedure works10:28
jbosinvalid mode10:28
Stskeepslbt: so, i managed to accidentially remove a bunch of packages from CI's Core:armv7hl10:31
Stskeepslbt: let's see what problems this causes10:31
lbtie osc, accidental rm10:32
lbtoh, and yes, I'll do an SDK release too10:32
Stskeepslbt: sync script that's supposed to align CI projects with fakeobs's core's state10:32
Stskeepsone of the big reasons why i want copy-project10:33
Stskeepsso now i get to make a resurrected armv7hl copy with the released obs repo10:33
lbtwhat happens to CI counts and things I wonder10:33
Stskeepsyeah, i wonder about that too10:34
lbtwill it matter?10:34
StskeepsCI count is rev anyway10:34
lbtif only we had a sane versioning system :)10:34
Stskeepseither way, this is a good disaster preperation excersise10:34
lbtso, what else happens post-release10:35
lbtreference VM (soon)10:35
Stskeepskickstarer files10:36
Stskeepser, kickstarts10:36
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lbtso this is just unpacking them from the rpm as a convenience10:36
Stskeepsright, whatever works for you, they just have to be using /0.20120315.1/ as paths10:37
Stskeepsin .ks10:37
lbtwhere do they live?10:38
lbtand do you have an existing script of any sort?10:38
Stskeepswell, the only thing that exists is mer-kickstarter-configs in core10:38
Stskeepsas you didn't want kickstarter in core, these have to be done sdk-side10:39
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Stskeepsmer-kickstarter-configs has the reference images and those are the ones that go in kickstarts/10:39
lbtand currently they're not published anywhere10:39
Stskeepsthat's the releaser's role10:39
Stskeepsso, generate a run with kickstarter against reference images and @BUILD_ID@ -> 0.20120315.110:40
lbtthat's fine - I was just worried I'd completely missed them in the past10:40
Stskeepsi don't normally do .ks'es for prereleases but given our horrid success in last images, i think we do need to make them..10:40
Stskeepsand use it as part of release sanity testing10:40
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Stskeepswhen i say 'resurrect', i grab latest OBS repo release and point Core:armv7hl to fakeobs for building10:41
lbtwhich will generate something != a fs backup/restore10:42
jboswhat is the diff between building inside with  sb2 -m obs-rpm-build   and   sb2 gcc ...10:43
jbosis it technicaly 'the same result?'10:43
lbtjbos: yes (assuming the same -m mode)10:43
Stskeepslbt: yeah, but at least we're training how merproject looks like if someone nukes germany from above10:43
Stskeepsjbos: SB2 has this thing called modes which is basically how it changes reality"10:44
lbtStskeeps: I have no problem with it10:44
Stskeepsie, where paths are redirected to, what happens if you run certain binaries, etc..10:44
Stskeepsthere's a default mode set in sb2-init, that's what happens when you do sb2 on it's own10:45
Stskeepslbt: think i just uncovered a bug in fakeobs11:02
Stskeepswhat's wrong there?11:02
lbtwell, it stops at qt which appears a tad small11:03
Stskeepsnow we got two problems11:04
lbt*apart* from that ...11:04
Stskeepswill you look into the qt issue then while i go bang my head against the wall?11:06
Stskeepsit's sunday and it -feels- like monday11:06
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lbtCI counts?11:07
lbtcan't see anything else odd (unless timestamps should be preserved?)11:07
Stskeepslbt: CI counts are always 111:07
Stskeepsi think prjfetcher-mertools ran out of space last night11:07
lbtit did but I extended it11:07
lbtI think I need to review how these things work in the event of failure - the main issue is wget isn't trivially restartable11:08
lbtbut rsync should be11:08
lbt( /me states the bleedin' obvious)11:08
Stskeepswell the good news is that 0.20120315.0.3 == .1 for all intents and purposes11:08
Stskeepsyou obviously can't grab from CI obs as i just nuked armv7hl by accident11:09
* lbt shuts down other stuff11:10
Stskeepsi think next week should be process week11:12
Stskeepslbt: from my respective i have no quibbles against cp -ar 0.20120315.0.3 0.20120315.111:12
Stskeepswe need to verify obs-repos/ aren't harmed though11:13
lbtOK - so I'm on monster and sorting releases then - just so we don't tread on each other11:18
jbosbtw. lbt stskeeps it would be good to have a devel n950 image stuffed with major devel libs :)11:20
jbosand tools11:20
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jbosmhm there is no zip for n950 available?11:21
Stskeepsjbos: ideally you can install tools and devel libs yourself11:21
jbossb2 -eR zypper install zip11:22
Stskeepsjbos: yeah, zip was first lately added to mer core11:22
lbtjbos: I plan to explain how Nemo (and other vendors) can provide that for you11:22
Stskeepslbt: :armv7hl building away11:24
mdfeStskeeps: hi, following patches are not upstream in pulseaudio 1.1 -->
Stskeepsonly? not bad11:30
jbosmhm okay so how to get QtGui QtNetwork QtCore QtOpenGL QtDeclarative ?   i can only find qt11:31
jboswhich has 18kb11:32
Stskeepsjbos: libqt-devel?11:32
jbosmhm why doesn't it find it on search11:33
jboslet me do a refresh11:33
jbosoh, the one who can type is clearly king...11:34
Stskeepssearch is broken in zypper11:34
jbosmhm and this ends in Problem: nothing provides qt-qmake = 4.8.0-1.19 needed by libqt-devel-4.8.0-1.19.armv7hl11:35
lbtfound the error in the release script log - it wasn't fatal :(11:35
lbtStskeeps: did you do some cleaning up?11:37
Stskeepslbt: hm?11:39
Stskeepsa little bit, not a lot11:39
lbtthere's 6Gb free now - <- just before I ran the release11:41
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lbtI thought we only needed 7Gb11:41
Stskeepsyes, i removed some old prereleases in mertools11:41
lbtOK - but do we need more than 7Gb to do a release now11:42
Stskeepsmaybe on mertools11:43
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jbosany clue what to do? when i try to install libqt4-devel it complaines about missing qt-qmake11:48
Stskeepsjbos: what -m are you using?11:48
jbosjust sb2 -eR zypper in libqt-devel11:49
jbosobs-rpm-build is the same11:50
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jbosits in the repo for /armv7l/11:56
jbosbut not for /armv7hl/11:57
jbosits also here:
jbosis it save to take that?11:58
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Stskeepsguess what screwup we're fixing at the moment :)11:59
jbosnext :)12:00
jbosor latest :)12:00
jboslatest seems more screwupperd :)12:01
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lbtjbos: try now12:11
jbosah I already too next O:-)   guess i want to break it very beadly, but it still work12:13
jbosadded repo, install qt12:13
jbos'what could go wrong' :Y12:13
lbt"next" is slightly interesting as just after a release it points to the old pre-release12:14
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lbtI'm happy that this makes sense for a vendor though12:14
jbosnow me is bit confused :)12:14
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jbosbut however it works at least until nuw12:14
lbtin look at the dates of latest and next12:23
lbtok, off to cook bbiab12:23
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* timoph patched testrunner-lite a bit15:04
timophpatched out the nokia copyright disclaimer that you get on every run :)15:05
timophgot tired of it15:05
Stskeepshaha ;)15:05
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timophbut anyway. seems to work in the sdk15:06
Stskeepsdid you get eat anywhere yet?15:07
timophalso moved planner & co to my home project15:07
timophalso in my home15:07
timophonly removed the hacky selftest package from it15:07
Stskeepsi have testrunner on devel:quality on at least, i think we'll put them in mer:tools initially15:08
Stskeeps(if lbt don't mind..)15:08
* timoph curses the ideapad's kb layout15:08
timophyeah. Just need some staging are from them15:08
Stskeepsi've considered a bit to bring my keyboard and "just" my ideapad and turn around the display when i go on a travel next weekend15:08
lbtsane place for them15:09
timophalso planner & ui might need some updating15:09
timophto me seems that the packaged versions are a bit old15:09
Stskeepsis there upgraded sw in git or?15:09
Stskeepslbt: so we're past the release issue now?15:10
timophtool button icons didn't show when run from sdk15:10
lbtwe seem to be, yes15:10
Stskeepstimoph: yeah, no icon sets15:10
Stskeepslbt: ok, let us notify on mailing list then15:10
Stskeepsbe good vendor interface providers, etc15:10
timophStskeeps: that's weird. I thought it used it's own icons15:10
timophI have to check that15:10
Stskeepstimoph: not sure15:10
Stskeepsbut it probably doesn't help we don't have standard icon sets15:11
timophmight be15:11
Stskeepslbt: Core:armv7hl still building, not going to be done for 12 hours probably15:11
timophI'll take a peek at the code a bit later15:11
Stskeepstimoph: thanks for looking into this15:11
lbtStskeeps: I got a clean wget for the release so I redid the grab/sync15:12
Stskeepslbt: you did not..15:12
Stskeepslbt: you re-did grabbing? but Core:armv7hl is totally screwed up15:13
lbtI thought it was screwed *after* the release ?15:13
Stskeepsyes, and grabbing talks to the obs and uses the rsync of the repos15:13
* Stskeeps glances at martini bottle15:14
Stskeepslbt: can you write in command line form exactly what you did..15:14
lbtexport NO_GRAB=; export SKIPWGET=1; export REL=0.20120315.1; export PRERELEASE=; export NORSYNC=; export RESYNC=;  tools/ $REL rsync:// 2>&1 | tee log-fix0.20120315.115:15
Stskeepsmm, ok, that might be ok15:15
Stskeepsyeah, looks fine15:16
Stskeepsi just thought you had done it without NO_GRAB15:16
lbtphew - I thought so15:16
Stskeepsif this is sunday, i don't want to know what monday feels like15:17
Stskeepswhich reminds me.. bug triage15:17
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* timoph ponders16:18
timophjust talked with sampos and we're going to fork at least testrunner-lite16:19
timophjust thinking if we need to rename it16:19
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Crnkojhey guys16:20
Crnkojvgrade here ?16:20
Stskeepstimoph: forking because? ongoing internal development? :)16:27
Stskeepsi wouldn't be surprised if it was still in use around various companies16:27
timophStskeeps: just feel safer putting it somewhere else than the meego namespace16:36
timophcontinuation might be actually better word than forkin16:37
Stskeepsyeah, makes sense16:38
Stskeepsthe gitorious contract for meego.* will go away someday anyway16:38
timophjust planning to put exec tools like the name suggests there.16:39
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jboswho it worked finaly :)16:43
jbosgot kind of boot2gecko to n9 :D16:43
jbosstill lot of issues around but hey :D16:43
Stskeepsboot2gecko on top of..mer?16:51
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jbosyes, well actually on top of nemo17:05
jboswith killed meegotouchhome17:06
jbosstill need X since I didn't yet managed to get device working without X17:06
jbosalso gl driver seem only to provide PBuffer in X17:06
jboswhich is needed to get webgl working17:07
jbosI wonder if pbuffer work with wayland on n95017:07
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alteregojbos, I think Stskeeps was looking at SGX on wayland17:32
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jbosI got them sort of working (2d) in framebuffer only - raw painting17:35
jbosbut well as soon as it got 3d it failed17:36
jbosbtw. its same crap with tegra2 linux driver,... they are also depending on X17:36
alteregoI'm just runninf X with QtQuick for my UX projects17:36
alteregoTegra is more difficult it was a pita ti get those drivers for armv7hl17:37
alteregoAnd like nvidia on desktop they are hardwired for X1117:37
jbosand those are locking fb for "other" access17:38
jboslike a security 'feature' so y can not do screenshots :)17:38
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bennypr0fane_Hello, I want to try nemo on my N900. My SD card reader is broken though, but I have this USB adapter for my micro SD, so I'm wondering if can use that for mounting the image. So the microSD would be on the USB port22:36
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