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| lbt | Stskeeps: https://img.merproject.org/images/web/admin/1-20120222-000713/ | 00:13 |
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| lbt | IMG is a bit messed up at the moment - picking i586 uses mic2 and picking i686 uses mic - or something | 00:17 |
| lbt | nm .. it's foobar | 00:22 |
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| lbt | wtf is 0.22 spectacle doing in Mer:Tools:Testing | 00:25 |
| lbt | search doesn't work... can't find a new spectacle .... bedtime I thing | 00:27 |
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| mdik | hi. i read that mer isnt aimed at endusers - but can someone here give me hints on how to get a linux distribution installed on a wm8650 device? | 03:12 |
| mdik | i only found dubious android hacks which don't really cater my needs | 03:12 |
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| cxl000 | mdik If you can boot your own kernel on the device and use your own rootfs then you could develop an adaptation for Mer | 03:44 |
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| Stskeeps | mdik: what SoC is that? | 05:30 |
| Stskeeps | well, as in, what ARM version | 05:30 |
| mdik | is arm 11 descriptive enough? Stskeeps | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, guess it is | 05:36 |
| Stskeeps | you can run the armv6 rootfs'es on there | 05:36 |
| mdik | the chip reads: wm8650 // 1138cd taiwan // blablabla | 05:36 |
| mdik | Stskeeps: is that complicated? | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | the complicated part lays on hardware adaptation, building own kernel, making it boot your own rootfs, etc | 05:37 |
| mdik | i didnt want to do much more than i would do 5 years ago when i installed linux (: | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | i can promise you you won't have to use floppy disks | 05:38 |
| mdik | :D | 05:38 |
| mdik | it would be cool if someone who knows what (s)he is doing would adapt to that platform, because it is fairly cheap and thus widespread | 05:39 |
| mdik | you can get those tablets for about 60 € off ebay | 05:41 |
| mdik | straight out of shenzen | 05:41 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, the problem is however always graphics acceleration | 05:42 |
| mdik | good idea: who ever wants to develop on a wm8650: i will send my device to you, if you live in germany or to any place else if you take the shipping costs. | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | most of us sadly have already work and hardware adaptations to work on | 05:43 |
| mdik | i c | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | but if you want to dive in and know how to hack with with kernels, mer's fairly straightforward to get started with | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | the 3d drivers is a problem though, you need to find them built for glibc | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | else it's only 2d | 05:44 |
| mdik | i put myself into diaspora and xxxterm right naow, so no tablet-hacking for me /: | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | also other constraints: kernel has to be 2.6.32 or higher | 05:45 |
| mdik | yeah, this is out of my league, but thanks for your time (: | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, just informing you what it takes to do hw adaptation :) | 05:46 |
| mdik | hardware and software. it's like ship and shore drifting apart and you - and your kernel - standing there, one foot onboard the other on land... | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | i like to think of it as lego pieces getting put together :P | 05:50 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: morning! | 05:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I use platform SDK to do local osc build, it fails. But the same step on opensuse desktop is OK. | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: alright, show me the error? | 05:55 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: pastie.org is down??!! | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | looks like that | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | try http://pastebin.mozilla.org/ ? | 05:56 |
| sonach | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1490088 | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ls -l /usr/bin/qemu* inside the platform sdk | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | anything showing? | 05:58 |
| sonach | nothing, | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | hang on a minute then | 05:59 |
| sonach | ok:) | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -iv http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120209.0.0.3/builds/i486/packages/i486/qemu-usermode-static-1.0.2011.12-1.2.i486.rpm | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | and show me cat /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm* | 06:00 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: it reports "Segmentation fault"!! | 06:04 |
| sonach | and I try "rpm -iv " again now, | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i think we're running into a problem that me and someone else saw yesterday | 06:05 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: still Segmentation fault, Is there any log I can show you? | 06:05 |
| sonach | oh? | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a machine that's able to run SSSE3 instructions (see /proc/cpuinfo)? | 06:06 |
| sonach | Can we solve it? | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | well, seeing that it happens to three people always helps :) | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | can you try and see if it happens on this platform sdk: https://img.merproject.org/images/web/admin/1-20120222-000713/meego-mer-sdk-atom-chroot-1.2.90.20120222.0007.tar.bz2 ? | 06:07 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I have three machines, outputs of "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep SSSE3" are all nothing | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | grep ssse3, not uppercase SSSE3 | 06:10 |
| sonach | ah, yes, I have | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | try that out on thre | 06:11 |
| sonach | and then try the meego-mer-sdk-xxx? | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 06:11 |
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| Stskeeps | and do the rpm -iv http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120209.0.0.3/builds/i586/packages/i586/qemu-usermode-static-1.0.2011.12-1.2.i586.rpm on there | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | (note, i586, not i486) | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | and tell me if it crashes | 06:11 |
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| Stskeeps | [07:11] <Stskeeps> and do the rpm -iv | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120209.0.0.3/builds/i586/packages/i586/qemu-usermode-static-1.0.2011.12-1.2.i586.rpm on there | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | [07:11] <Stskeeps> (note, i586, not i486) | 06:13 |
| Stskeeps | [07:11] <Stskeeps> and tell me if it crashes | 06:13 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. wait some minutes for me to download. | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 06:15 |
| phaeron | morning | 06:18 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: the kernel booted yesterday. I was running the older an older kernel without the right stuff | 06:18 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: anyway wanted to ask you about the sdk kernel requirements | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | right, i'd say not terribly much, what do you have in mind? | 06:21 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: well mostly what kvm provides , but I was thinking about the llvmpipe stuff, what is the minimum needed for that | 06:24 |
| phaeron | do we give the virtio-gl module a chance ? it was being developed for meego afati | 06:24 |
| phaeron | afair | 06:24 |
| phaeron | anyway , going for some more paperwork . so see you later | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 06:26 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: this time, error: can't create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/.rpm.lock (Permission denied) | 06:37 |
| sonach | on mer-sdk-atom chroot. | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | sudo rpm -i ? | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | if you're user | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | in it | 06:38 |
| sonach | ok:) | 06:39 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ls /usb/bin/qemu* gives results:) | 06:41 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I go out for about 5 minutes for some drink... | 06:41 |
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| berndhs | stskeeps pretending to be asleep ? | 06:45 |
| timoph | about http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Entering_chroot | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | berndhs: no | 06:45 |
| berndhs | i know you dont actually do that :) | 06:46 |
| timoph | is the intention to give it the host side user or chroot user? | 06:46 |
| * timoph started tweaking the script | 06:46 | |
| Stskeeps | timoph: hmm? | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | rephrase please | 06:46 |
| timoph | -u System user to link into SDK (not needed if using sudo) | 06:46 |
| timoph | not written by me | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | that one makes even less sense :) | 06:46 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: I am back and what to test next? | 06:46 |
| timoph | not sure I understand that | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, so that went fine? | 06:47 |
| timoph | good. then I'm not the only one confused by that :) | 06:47 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, the rpm -iv is successful | 06:47 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, now cat /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm* | 06:47 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: nothing | 06:48 |
| berndhs | i'm looking for mer images, are there more than these ? http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ | 06:48 |
| timoph | seems those are added by lbt | 06:48 |
| timoph | lbt: want to help me understand it? :p | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, is there a /usr/bin/qemu-arm or qemu-arm static in the chroot ? | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | berndhs: well, mer images for what purpose rather | 06:48 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static /usr/bin/qemu-mipsel-static | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: ok, try to do a osc build now | 06:49 |
| berndhs | i got myself a cheap tablet, and want to see if I can put mer + rayorqt on it | 06:49 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok:) | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | berndhs: ok, so you'll want to use the platform sdk -- got a SSSE3 enabled machine? | 06:50 |
| berndhs | razor-qt | 06:50 |
| berndhs | its an arm thing with android from asus | 06:50 |
| timoph | hmmh. or have I written that | 06:50 |
| * timoph is really confused now | 06:50 | |
| * Stskeeps passes timoph more coffee | 06:51 | |
| berndhs | i think similar machines work, dont know if this one has been tried | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | berndhs: ideally i'd like you to wait 24 hours while we sort out something, try to boot your own kernel first | 06:52 |
| berndhs | ok no rush | 06:52 |
| berndhs | so i should make an installer image like I did with meego tablet stuff maybe ? see if I can get a sign of life ? | 06:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: no it is building. why are there several version of platform SDK? and which will be the 'official' one? | 06:53 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: s/no/now | 06:53 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: we're investigating why the i486 one fails | 06:55 |
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| timoph | ok. it's written by lbt - http://wiki.merproject.org/index.php?title=Platform_SDK&diff=966&oldid=963 | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: the official one will be on releases.merproject.org | 06:55 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: and the build success. so what I am using is not the official one? | 06:57 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: And I have to wait some time before I introducing the Platform SDK to my team? | 06:57 |
| timoph | but anyway. I added parameters to the script so one can speficy what to mount into the rootfs (home and/or parent root) | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: we're working as fast as we can, the methods and content should be similar :) | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: the URLs might be changed | 06:58 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: So I can introduce this mer-sdk-atom to my team now? or just wait some time. please give instructions:) | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | i think you can introduce it yes, the methods aren't going to change much | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | just tell them that the URL of the platform SDK will change | 07:00 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: hmm, I think in platform SDK , I can just do 'zypper update'? Or I have to download a new one when the official one is released? | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | that part i'm not sure about, it's best to download new one when official one is released | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | as it has proper repositories and so on in it | 07:02 |
| sonach | OK:) | 07:04 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: i see. the meego-mer-sdk-atom requires ssse3. but some machines may not support ssse3(I have 3 machine, 1 not support ssse3). So the official one will not require ssse3. Is that right? | 07:08 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, that's the idea | 07:11 |
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| Stskeeps | except i486 version right now crashes as you saw | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | so we'll research why | 07:11 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: One question. I find that OpenSUSE 11.4 can do the same jobs(osc build) quite well. So If I have one dedicated OpenSUSE 11.4, I am not necessary to use Platform SDK? | 07:12 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: this is my collegue's question:) | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: you don't have to, but in next mer version until we have fully upstreamed the new cross compile, you will need platform sdk's osc | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | we just try to make it easier to use mer tools and avoid many typical errors | 07:13 |
| Macer | i486 huh? :) | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: non-atom, in this case | 07:13 |
| Macer | atoms are 486? | 07:14 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, at least in Ubuntu, there will be errors:) But why platform SDK's osc is related to the new cross compile? | 07:14 |
| Macer | thought they were lowefr clocked i686 | 07:14 |
| Macer | lower | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: they're i686 with ssse3, i said i486 == non-atom | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: because there is some changes that was needed to enable this new method :) | 07:15 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: and osc from OpenSUSE does not keep up with the new method? | 07:15 |
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| Macer | Stskeeps: i know.. i am just confused as to why you said "non-atom" i dont understand the relationship | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: not yet, it will soon | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | but it will take a little bit as we are discussing with the opensuse build service people | 07:16 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: OK. Platform SDK is Mer's main development environment. So we use platform SDK is the direct way:) | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:17 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: ok, then if the new platform SDK is released, please inform us through mail-list:) | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes, we fully intend to | 07:18 |
| berndhs | good night, I'm not Stskeeps, I actually sleep :) | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | i sleep pretty regularly 22-6:30am | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:28 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: very good sleep habit:) | 07:28 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: In the prj meta, there is "<repository name="prj_MerDS_Core_armv7l">". My question is, if there are more than one user's home project, should the repository name be the same or be different? | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | sonach: it doesn't matter, it will export into home:/yourusername:/prj_MerDS_Core_armv7l | 08:12 |
| sonach | ah, i see:) | 08:12 |
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| Stskeeps | moin mdfe_ | 08:33 |
| mdfe_ | good morning | 08:34 |
| lbt | morning | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: something's awry in rpm for i486, getting segmentation faults | 08:37 |
| lbt | yes, I saw | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | you see same on your i486 machine? | 08:39 |
| lbt | yes | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:39 |
| lbt | error: cannot open Packages index using db4 - Permission denied (13) | 08:39 |
| lbt | ? | 08:39 |
| lbt | you said segmentation | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | sudo | 08:40 |
| lbt | no, really? :) | 08:40 |
| lbt | one thing that really annoyed me last night: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting or https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting or https://build.pub.meego.com/project/status?project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 08:42 |
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| lbt | there's no way to check what damned version things are | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:42 |
| lbt | like spectacle 0.22 ... grrr | 08:42 |
| lbt | so I need to check on :T:T and get that fixed up before we go too much further | 08:43 |
| lbt | timoph: yes, I've made extensive (!) changes to the chroot script | 08:43 |
| lbt | timoph: very much built around your initial version though | 08:44 |
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| timoph | lbt: got your version somewhere in public? | 08:46 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=sdk-kickstarter-configs&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 08:48 |
| lbt | tgz file | 08:48 |
| lbt | I haven't made a git repo yet | 08:48 |
| lbt | should :) | 08:48 |
| timoph | yep | 08:48 |
| timoph | would help in contributing to it :) | 08:48 |
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| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs | 08:54 |
| timoph | thanks | 08:55 |
| timoph | added to wiki | 08:58 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: can i see the .ks for mer sdk ? | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | for i486 and for i586 | 09:09 |
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| lbt | alongside the images | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | i don't see one for mer-sdk.tar.bz2 | 09:10 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: this Harmattan Hostarch | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes? | 09:11 |
| lbt | your instructions were: the important thing is to add Hostarch: x86_64 for %ifarch armblahblah for those prjconfs where jobs dont schedule | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | %ifarch schedulername Hostarch: x86_64 %endif | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | with some \n's | 09:12 |
| lbt | ah | 09:13 |
| lbt | so I was supposed to create a new one where blahblah = v7el | 09:13 |
| lbt | not add it to an existing one where blahblah = * | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | well, %ifarch for arm target | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | new one works too | 09:13 |
| lbt | sorry, this isn't enough to translate to ascii | 09:14 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/prjconf?project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3AHarmattan | 09:14 |
| lbt | 6-9 | 09:14 |
| lbt | that OK now? | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:15 |
| lbt | I had it in as line 3.5 | 09:15 |
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| Stskeeps | i found the cause of the i486 issue | 09:15 |
| lbt | good - I've been stuck fixing schedulers | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | but i'd like you to declare you have some caffeine in your blood before i tell you what | 09:15 |
| lbt | much more fun :/ | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:16 |
| lbt | lets get Harmattan working first | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:16 |
| lbt | I'll "look forward to it" .... :P | 09:17 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: oh Harmattan is still dead | 09:22 |
| lbt | we've stopped sched and disp | 09:23 |
| lbt | purged jobs | 09:23 |
| lbt | changed prjvonf | 09:23 |
| lbt | restarted | 09:23 |
| lbt | triggered rebuild | 09:23 |
| lbt | still hung in sched | 09:23 |
| lbt | phone | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: define hung | 09:23 |
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| vgarde_ | notmart: delayed ping | 09:41 |
| notmart | vgrade: yo | 09:41 |
| notmart | vgrade: just to confirm: you are coming to the active sprint from 7 to 8 march? | 09:41 |
| mdfe_ | vgrade: I will be there too | 09:42 |
| lbt | back | 09:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=omweather&project=home%3Avasvlad | 09:42 |
| lbt | "hung" = stuck in scheduled state | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, i'll take a look | 09:42 |
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| lbt | FWIW I thought harmattan jobs were running - there've been no/few complaints | 09:43 |
| X-Fade | I got some complaints, but I was away on Monday :) | 09:44 |
| vgarde_ | notmart: I'm still planning to attend but its not 100% confirmed yet, I'll know 100% by the end of the week | 09:44 |
| vgarde_ | mdfe_: hi, have you beeb away | 09:44 |
| notmart | vgrade: oki | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home:stskeeps:branches:home%3Avasvlad | 09:44 |
| lbt | hmm | 09:45 |
| notmart | vgrade: just for logistics, you would need accomodation right? | 09:45 |
| vgarde_ | notmart: if you let me know what hotel I can reserve | 09:46 |
| vgarde_ | Stskeeps: I can take the Pi kernel packaging | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | vgarde_: ok | 09:47 |
| notmart | we were thinking of just reserve in block, if you prefer to do it yourself if still don't know if you can yet i'll check if it has already been done and stop just in case ;) | 09:47 |
| notmart | vgrade: hope you can make it tough ;) | 09:47 |
| lbt | X-Fade: so Stskeeps' copy is buildin | 09:49 |
| vgarde_ | notmart: if you are doing a block then pencil me in for the night of the 7th | 09:49 |
| notmart | oki | 09:49 |
| lbt | I think the answer he meant is to pass his account details to vasvlad so he can build there... | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | no, just saying that you have some state problem that isn't related to prjconf | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | there might be a bad cross marker | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | remove the repository in home:vasvlad and re-add it | 09:50 |
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| lbt | Unable to delete repository; following repositories depend on this project: | 09:51 |
| lbt | home:stskeeps:branches:home:vasvlad/Harmattan | 09:51 |
| X-Fade | Pretty annoying that an admin can't do that :) | 09:52 |
| lbt | removed repo | 09:53 |
| lbt | gone from list | 09:53 |
| lbt | restored - still hung | 09:53 |
| lbt | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu | 09:53 |
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| X-Fade | I wonder if that info gets cached somewhere. | 09:54 |
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| lbt | I honestly don't know | 09:55 |
| lbt | I mean it must | 09:55 |
| lbt | but where, in what.... | 09:55 |
| lbt | there is a job with no :status | 09:55 |
| lbt | OK ... big splurge | 09:56 |
| lbt | no change | 09:56 |
| X-Fade | That was me. | 09:56 |
| X-Fade | scanned the repo, just to be sure. | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | did you try forcing a rebuild? | 09:57 |
| lbt | yes | 09:57 |
| X-Fade | yep | 09:57 |
| lbt | deep check not helping | 09:57 |
| lbt | the scheduler thinks it is building | 09:57 |
| lbt | scheduled: 1 | 09:57 |
| lbt | building: 1, notready: 1, unfinished: 1 | 09:57 |
| lbt | abortbuild... | 09:58 |
| lbt | still scheduled | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | change the name of the repo? | 09:59 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=omweather&project=home%3Avasvlad | 10:00 |
| X-Fade | That did something. | 10:01 |
| lbt | name it back and ... | 10:02 |
| lbt | hung | 10:02 |
| X-Fade | At least it is consistent :) | 10:03 |
| lbt | deleting orphaned cross marker x86_64/home:wonko::Harmattan::meepasswords-546aa65aba26721006a5d529c28c830b:armv7el:cross | 10:05 |
| lbt | building | 10:06 |
| lbt | so | 10:06 |
| lbt | obs_admin --rescan-repository home:vasvlad Harmattan armv7el | 10:06 |
| lbt | whereas --deep-scan fails | 10:06 |
| lbt | clearly | 10:06 |
| X-Fade | Go figure | 10:07 |
| lbt | rescan tells the scheduler to look | 10:07 |
| lbt | I guess deep-check is more dependency oriented | 10:08 |
| lbt | RTFC I guess | 10:08 |
| X-Fade | RTWP, probably. | 10:08 |
| lbt | so I removed the job and did a rescan | 10:08 |
| lbt | :) | 10:08 |
| X-Fade | Ok, well it does something now :) | 10:09 |
| lbt | this was the kind of thing I wanted in an ops guide | 10:09 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK ... "hurt me plenty" | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, as you know, mic/mic2 uses host rpm to install the file system and the db4 version is host's.. and on occasion, this is not equal to mer's | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: we have this tidbit in most .ks'es: | 10:11 |
| lbt | ah yes, I've seen that | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* | 10:11 |
| lbt | so we need a rebuild of the db | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | rpm --builddb | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | err, rebuilddb | 10:12 |
| lbt | cool - easy | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | and that should really really be in mer kickstarter configs :) | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | as everybody will need that %post | 10:12 |
| lbt | it will be | 10:12 |
| lbt | now | 10:12 |
| lbt | can I do nested inheritance in kickstarter yaml ? | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | define nested | 10:13 |
| lbt | some aggregation would be nice | 10:13 |
| lbt | sec | 10:13 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=00sdk.yaml&package=sdk-kickstarter-configs&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting&rev=e9cb1b250791c0a748328c0d12db6bdd | 10:13 |
| lbt | in the configurations I have a lot of ... | 10:13 |
| lbt | mmm that's old | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | so, a declaration can't inherit from another declaration | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | which kinda sucks but patches welcome | 10:14 |
| lbt | OK - good answer | 10:15 |
| lbt | so SDK is messed up for many reasons - one biggy is that the versions of stuff seem random | 10:16 |
| lbt | I need to get that sorted out first | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | until then we can provide the rebuilddb advice i guess | 10:16 |
| lbt | oh, I can add that and update the ones I built on img | 10:17 |
| lbt | I hate that the ks is only available in an rpm | 10:17 |
| lbt | so I have to osc build then install the rpm to get the .ks | 10:17 |
| lbt | or dig it out of a buildroot | 10:17 |
| lbt | (which is what I do) | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | i stated i didn't have any strong feelings about that part | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | so it can be made in platform sdk, or in a rpm | 10:18 |
| lbt | mmmk I thought you wanted the rpm approach | 10:18 |
| lbt | well, we know now :) | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | rpm helps for the release process phase | 10:18 |
| lbt | I think I'll back away from rpm for the .ks for now and then revisit it as we need to release | 10:19 |
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| lbt | should let people download an sdk, run "make ks" and build a new SDK | 10:20 |
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| lbt | which is easy | 10:20 |
| lbt | I have a call in 10m so bbiab | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:20 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: did the i486 work? | 10:24 |
| lbt | Sage_: yes :) | 10:26 |
| lbt | need to sort out version numbering for our mic though | 10:27 |
| Sage_ | lbt: ok, so probably not using other parts of that code in there | 10:29 |
| lbt | phone ... bbiab | 10:29 |
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| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: remember what things that broke in the llvmpipe image? | 11:42 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, well the black screen | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:50 |
| jukkaeklund | orientation is problematic | 11:51 |
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| * andre__ got Mer shirt. thanks! | 12:13 | |
| lbt | andre__: cool | 12:18 |
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| lbt | food then SDK | 13:07 |
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| Sage_ | lbt,Stskeeps: diff against fakeobs doesn't seem to work anymore https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?opackage=xdg-user-dirs&oproject=Mer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl&package=xdg-user-dirs&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl&rev=6 | 13:16 |
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| lbt | *sigh* ... log a bug .. high prio | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | never did in UI | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | afaik | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | i might be wrong | 13:18 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: it worked before as I used it before :) | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | hmm ok | 13:18 |
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| Sage_ | it was handy way to checking things :P | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | i don't see anything wron? | 13:19 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 | 13:24 |
| lbt | ty | 13:25 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: what do you see? | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | i see factual diffs | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | but not when i log in, it seems | 13:27 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp | 13:31 |
| Sage_ | lol, it works when not logged in :D | 13:32 |
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| Stskeeps | bizarre | 13:34 |
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| Sage_ | Killed Job | 13:37 |
| Sage_ | No buildstatus set, either the packager broke the base system (glibc/bash/perl) or the build host has a kernel or hardware problem, OBS server will retry... | 13:37 |
| Sage_ | normal? | 13:37 |
| Sage_ | "normal" | 13:37 |
| Sage_ | xdg-utils review | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | yes, normal | 13:39 |
| Macer | hm | 13:43 |
| Macer | i see on the merproject wiki there are people owrking on the transformer | 13:43 |
| Macer | anybody here? :) i'm trying to figure out the steps to install mer onto mine | 13:43 |
| Macer | all it says is "talk to the ac100/trimslice/transformer kernel guys | 13:44 |
| Macer | so who is an ac100/trimslice/transformer kernel guy? | 13:44 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: fyi I have not yet applied http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/0001-Change-strategy-for-shell-quoting-tested-against-deb.patch.txt | 13:55 |
| lbt | (just came across the tab) | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok, it should be the fix for all things | 13:56 |
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| vprints_mobile | hi! | 14:09 |
| vprints_mobile | if i would like to translate Spark to my language then should i translate Mer to accomplish that? | 14:10 |
| lbt | vprints_mobile: no, the majority of any translation effort will be in the UX layer | 14:13 |
| vprints_mobile | ok, could You point me to that? | 14:14 |
| lbt | try #active :) | 14:14 |
| vprints_mobile | thanks :) | 14:15 |
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| eocanha | I'm following the instructions to setup a Mer Delivery System from http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/FakeOBS but the git clone for the release-tools is failing with HTTP 503 Service Unavailable | 15:15 |
| eocanha | is there any other alternate place to do clone from? | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | eocanha: what URL are you cloning from specifically? | 15:15 |
| eocanha | git clone http://review.merproject.org/p/mer/release-tools | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | hang on | 15:16 |
| eocanha | the one in the wikipage | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | now? | 15:17 |
| eocanha | Now it works. Thanks! | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | np | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | gerrit gets a bit weird at times | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | could you file a bug about that issue at http://bugs.merproject.org so we remember this problem occoured? | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | and note i restarted gerrit to fix it | 15:19 |
| eocanha | ok | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 15:19 |
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| eocanha | Mer Infra or MINT bugzilla product? | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | Mer Infra | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | generally we catch wrong placements in our weekly triages anyway | 15:22 |
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| eocanha | Done: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190 | 15:27 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 15:28 |
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| lbt | deleting mic2 from Mer Tools - any objections? | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | kill the witch | 15:30 |
| lbt | toes now curling.... | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: btw, merds as part of platform SDK, for/against? | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | it does have a lot of deps | 15:34 |
| lbt | merds ? | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | MDS | 15:35 |
| lbt | ah | 15:35 |
| lbt | against I think | 15:36 |
| lbt | MDS is part of server infrastructure | 15:36 |
| lbt | would be my rationale | 15:36 |
| lbt | certainly would defer it until a use-case came up | 15:37 |
| lbt | we have enough on the list :) | 15:37 |
| lbt | you could do me a favour though | 15:37 |
| lbt | prj=Mer:Tools:Testing | 15:37 |
| lbt | for pkg in $(osc ls $prj) ; do echo -n "$pkg : "; ch=$(osc ls $prj $pkg | egrep ".changes$"); osc api "/source/$prj/$pkg/$ch" | head -1; donebtrfs-progs : * Thu May 26 2011 Junfeng Dong <junfeng.dong@intel.com >- 0.19 | 15:37 |
| lbt | ! | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | what? | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:38 |
| lbt | prj=Mer:Tools:Testing | 15:38 |
| lbt | for pkg in $(osc ls $prj) ; do echo -n "$pkg : "; ch=$(osc ls $prj $pkg | egrep ".changes$"); osc api "/source/$prj/$pkg/$ch" | head -1; done | 15:38 |
| lbt | even | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | and that does what | 15:38 |
| lbt | that will give ~ versions of tools in Testing | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 15:38 |
| lbt | head of changelog | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | sec, i have to order a pizza | 15:38 |
| lbt | of course.... high prio | 15:39 |
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| Stskeeps | there's a online ordering place here where you can order steak dinners online | 15:41 |
| Sage_ | %{lib} is /lib right? | 15:42 |
| Sage_ | or is it %{_lib} ? | 15:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: dangerous! | 15:42 |
| lbt | /usr/lib of course | 15:43 |
| vgarde_ | Macer: hi | 15:43 |
| Sage_ | /usr/lib is %{_libdir} | 15:43 |
| lbt | use /lib | 15:44 |
| lbt | and then when specify complains.. you'll know | 15:45 |
| * lbt notes osc is at 131 | 15:45 | |
| Stskeeps | osc should be upstream + sb2-obs patches in our sdk | 15:46 |
| lbt | yup | 15:46 |
| lbt | nb ... add me to https://github.com/Merproject | 15:47 |
| lbt | and phaeron and sage | 15:47 |
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| Stskeeps | what's phaeron's user name? | 15:50 |
| vgarde_ | iamer | 15:51 |
| vgarde_ | i think | 15:52 |
| * lbt rather likes specify handling of SCM: | 15:52 | |
| lbt | I'm removing the meego default patch though | 15:53 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm travelling too much. i have difficulties finding anything but euros in my wallet | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | (and we don't use euros.) | 15:57 |
| lbt | *g* | 15:57 |
| lbt | worse ... I recognise them | 15:57 |
| lbt | OK specify then gets annoying .... it downloads the git as osc-0.133.1^{}.tar.bz2 | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | that doesn't sound right | 15:58 |
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| lbt | if you specify the version as 0.133.1 and run specify ... it gets the right tag but somehow messes up the name | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://atomsoft.wordpress.com/ - newbie's experience with a beagleboard-xm | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | (just you can see how reality is outside mer) | 16:04 |
| lbt | I'll take a look - good to see pain points | 16:05 |
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| lbt | tum-te-tum ... python-m2crypto | 16:07 |
| lbt | and xml | 16:07 |
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| Stskeeps | evening jukkaeklund | 16:09 |
| Paimen_ | evening, just because my hilite alerted me too | 16:09 |
| Sage_ | lbt: about macros this is the simple thing that you mean in https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100 http://pastie.org/3432646 right? | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, hey there too :) | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: dove a bit more into the black screen in virtual machine issue, might have a fix on the horizon tomorrow | 16:10 |
| lbt | sage - yes, that's the kind of thing - will it allow testv; %{version} - it should | 16:11 |
| Sage_ | lbt: yes | 16:12 |
| lbt | Sage_: what's a ; then ... I'm not used to seeing that | 16:13 |
| lbt | name/value pair? | 16:13 |
| Sage_ | lbt: :nod: | 16:13 |
| Sage_ | used in spectacle in general like that | 16:13 |
| Sage_ | like ExtraSources is list of file;path | 16:13 |
| lbt | OK | 16:14 |
| Sage_ | https://meego.gitorious.org/~sage/meego-developer-tools/sages-spectacle/commit/f4c3cbe0220b1b9c500b3b5ea7dd73e9840356ad | 16:14 |
| Sage_ | also this is at times missed thing https://meego.gitorious.org/~sage/meego-developer-tools/sages-spectacle/commit/3924409f828c398f041fde32052952ac771080f0 | 16:14 |
| lbt | so if we're doing a new version .... | 16:14 |
| lbt | about the <<< reorg too ? | 16:14 |
| Paimen_ | was maliit in use on nemo? | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | Paimen_: sure, it's a great VKB framework | 16:15 |
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| Paimen | well I need to do study how usable it would be for us | 16:15 |
| Paimen | well "I" meaning someone from my team | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | try it out, it works on several different frameworks and is quite flexible | 16:16 |
| Paimen | our own VKB is not so good, so need to find out if it would be more sense to use Maliit instead banging head to brickwall with our implementation | 16:16 |
| Sage_ | lbt: I think there is need for two places for macros. One might want to have tarballname-%{version}-%{upstream-release-id}.tar.gz and then the upstream-release-id needs to be defined on the top right? | 16:16 |
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| lbt | Sage_: I think I wanted to have this http://pastie.org/3432687 | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | Paimen: http://www.youtube.com/user/maliitorg | 16:17 |
| Paimen | thanks | 16:17 |
| Sage_ | lbt: oh, so name only above macros? | 16:17 |
| lbt | but yes ... macros2 may make sense post the main chunk too | 16:17 |
| lbt | yes | 16:17 |
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| lbt | to my mind Name is the only thing that is absolute | 16:18 |
| Bostik | .. | 16:18 |
| Bostik | oh sorry, wrong window | 16:18 |
| Sage_ | ok, need to think about that but I don't have anything against it atm. at least :) | 16:18 |
| lbt | yeah, eg I've had Description contain a macro | 16:18 |
| Sage_ | MacrosPre and MacrosPost maybe? | 16:18 |
| lbt | pre and post tend to have meaning | 16:19 |
| lbt | so I'd say 1/2 to avoid relating the idea of pre/post | 16:20 |
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| lbt | get your head around when macro expansion happens | 16:20 |
| lbt | and in particular when lua interpolation happens | 16:21 |
| lbt | because you can define a macro before the thing *in* the macro has a value as long as you expand it *after* the thing has a value | 16:21 |
| lbt | this will affect how 1/2 works :) | 16:22 |
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| lbt | but I think lua is expanded and executed as it is parsed | 16:22 |
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| lbt | so if you use lua it has to be written after values are assigned (eg, in particular) Name: | 16:23 |
| lbt | my main use is to have a lua look in %{Name | 16:23 |
| lbt | }.changes for the Version | 16:23 |
| * lbt is done and goes back to osc :) | 16:24 | |
| * Sage_ needs to think this more with time :) | 16:25 | |
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| vgarde_ | Paimen: I met jononor@gmail.com John Nordby from Maliit at FOSDEM after he gave a presentation. Since they did the N9 work they are are looking for other projects to work with and I know they have had meetings with the Plasma Active guys on replacing their VKB | 16:44 |
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| Paimen | vgrade: thanks for info | 16:45 |
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| peinguin | Hello | 17:23 |
| lbt | hey peinguin | 17:23 |
| peinguin | I have difficulty with install Mer on HP Touchpad | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | peinguin: you might want to catch twitter.com/crevetor | 17:24 |
| peinguin | thanks | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | he's in mexico right now though, it seems | 17:25 |
| * Stskeeps kicks off next prerelease | 17:27 | |
| peinguin | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/Touchpad I use this manual. But when I launch uImage I have | 17:28 |
| lbt | /usr/include/openssl/opensslconf.h:31: Error: CPP #error ""This openssl-devel package does not work your architecture?"". Use the -cpperraswarn option to | 17:28 |
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| peinguin | mount point /mnt/boot does not exist | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: what arch do you get that one on? | 17:29 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=python-M2Crypto&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting&repository=Mer_Core_i486 | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: take a look at openssl.spec and it makes more snse | 17:29 |
| lbt | OK | 17:29 |
| peinguin | where meego.uImage find /mnt ?? | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | peinguin: sorry, don't know | 17:31 |
| peinguin | In N900 must separately create directory /mnt? | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | i think you aren't supposed to mix n900 and touchpad instructons | 17:32 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: happen to know where phaeron has his copy-whole-project patches? | 17:34 |
| lbt | he has a github clone - I think they're on there | 17:35 |
| peinguin | where I can get armv7hl? | 17:35 |
| peinguin | images | 17:35 |
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| Stskeeps | peinguin: you'd have to make them yourself | 17:37 |
| peinguin | Can I get precompiled? | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | at the moment no | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | well | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | the binaries are already compiled, but images aren't made | 17:38 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: so no, the spec file doesn't clarify it | 17:41 |
| peinguin | where I can see manual? | 17:41 |
| lbt | that error occurs on all arches btw | 17:41 |
| peinguin | armv7hl image include meego.uImage? | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | peinguin: i think you'd be best off contacting crevetor as a start | 17:43 |
| lbt | (all = both, i586 and i486) | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: # Determine which arch opensslconf.h is going to try to #include. | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | and down | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm not giving away the answer as this is something you're going to encounter in many fedora packages | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | it shouldn't break, naturally | 17:44 |
| lbt | need to change the #include to opensslconf-${basearch}.h | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | no, it should work in the first place | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | ie, include the right one when including opensslconf.h | 17:45 |
| lbt | OK - I'll dig into it | 17:46 |
| * Stskeeps gets out dia | 17:51 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: tbh I've never known where arch specific defines are set - so clearly __i386__ should be defined but equally it seems totally wrong to do it in a specific package | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | well, __i386__ should be a compiler define | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | and ifdef'ed instead | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | admittedly we don't really use multiarch | 17:54 |
| lbt | or, if we handle arch definitions in a distinct way, then we rewrite that opensslconf.h to use our values | 17:54 |
| lbt | so this is a toolchain problem for the i486 toolchain | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | it fails on i586 too? | 17:55 |
| lbt | yep | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | grab config.log just for good measure? | 17:56 |
| lbt | mmm which config.log ? | 17:56 |
| lbt | for openssl ? | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | for the one that fails naturally | 17:57 |
| lbt | I don't know what a config.log is | 17:58 |
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| Stskeeps | config.log is what configure spits out when it fails or succeeds, with outputs of all test cases, etc | 17:59 |
| lbt | it doesn't run configure :) | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | argh | 17:59 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3433499 | 17:59 |
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| lbt | line 93 | 17:59 |
| lbt | #define __i386 1 | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | uhh.. | 17:59 |
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| lbt | 106 #define __i386__ 1 | 18:00 |
| lbt | so it is defined | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | but also __i386__ | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:00 |
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| lbt | #if defined(__i386__) | 18:01 |
| lbt | #include "opensslconf-i386.h" | 18:01 |
| lbt | # | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | so that should work | 18:01 |
| lbt | so that should work | 18:01 |
| lbt | :) | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | we're sure opensslconf-i386.h gets included in openssl? | 18:01 |
| lbt | yes | 18:01 |
| lbt | I'm in the osc build chroot btw | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | and it's there? | 18:02 |
| lbt | yes | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | wtf | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:02 |
| lbt | and in any case it's not an error it's a cpp #if/else printout | 18:02 |
| lbt | yep | 18:02 |
| lbt | OK ... I'll dig some more | 18:02 |
| lbt | food first | 18:02 |
| lbt | glad I wasn't being a total idjot | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | is it swig which doesn't process those? | 18:03 |
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| * Stskeeps makes a mental note his old media centre can't to 1080p | 18:06 | |
| Stskeeps | s/to/do/ | 18:06 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: brainstorming.. http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process#New_process_2 | 18:24 |
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| Stskeeps | hello thetav2012 | 18:33 |
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| Stskeeps | evening slaine :) | 18:38 |
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| lbt | in setup.py : #self.swig_opts.append('-D__i386__') # Uncomment for early OpenSSL 0.9.7 versions, or on Fedora Core if build fails | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like an issue on arm and others too | 18:38 |
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| lbt | well opensslconf.h doesn't have an arm variant | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't? | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder htf this built in the past | 18:43 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3433860 | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | you're right | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | please file a bug | 18:44 |
| lbt | OK | 18:44 |
| lbt | nb m2crypto is a new import for mer AFAICT | 18:44 |
| lbt | I pulled it from opensuse | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | but it wasn't in meego? | 18:44 |
| lbt | honestly I didn't look ... :) | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | http://build.meego.com/package/view_file?file=m2crypto.spec&package=m2crypto&project=Trunk&srcmd5=b4615c05ed8e69f1f82ca90b8fbb1cce | 18:46 |
| lbt | yeah - was looking at 1.2:oss ... older though I'm on 0.21.1 | 18:47 |
| lbt | not 0.20.2 | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:47 |
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| * Stskeeps waits for 0.1 to import to cobs fakeobs | 18:49 | |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: where would i find your copy-whole-project patches? | 19:39 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: locally only unfortunately | 19:43 |
| * phaeron just came back an hour ago | 19:43 | |
| Stskeeps | ah ok | 19:44 |
| lbt | used the meego-hack to make it work - not nice. I guess it's a swig bug | 19:45 |
| * Stskeeps subscribes to lwn.. | 19:45 | |
| lbt | :) | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process#New_process_2 -- would this be feasible with your copy-project patch? | 19:45 |
| phaeron | I don't see anything that makes it not possible right now | 19:50 |
| * lbt looks at Stskeeps.... we have m2crypto in core... it's a python package without python in the name .... neat. | 19:51 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: it's in core? | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | scary | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | filebug | 19:51 |
| lbt | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/m2crypto.git;a=blob;f=m2crypto.spec;h=6f44228028885a26e3e38c1c2279866a701983f2;hb=HEAD+ | 19:51 |
| lbt | well, on the plus side I have a newer version :) | 19:51 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: what do you think can't be done now ? | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: well, one irritating part is the project links not respecting enable-disable of archs | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: i think that the general concept will work, just brainstorming on how we can do better releasing and building | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | where your idea fits in | 19:53 |
| phaeron | yeah it'll make it more effecient | 19:54 |
| phaeron | or _should_ | 19:55 |
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| Stskeeps | so that's how i would like to model the new releasing process | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | ie, copies of former/base release, make change, release, etc.. | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | also makes quite a nice basic CI operation | 19:56 |
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| phaeron | yes | 19:57 |
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| Stskeeps | hence why i was interested to see them :) | 20:00 |
| phaeron | sure , I'd really like to finish them too, they will help a lot with our standard (nemo) process | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | what's missing with them, in your mind? | 20:03 |
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| * lbt builds an SDK with correct osc, spectacle, mic and kickstarter | 20:08 | |
| Stskeeps | and rebuilddb %post ? | 20:08 |
| lbt | and that :) | 20:09 |
| lbt | hmm | 20:09 |
| lbt | although no, I cheated on that bit | 20:09 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: good work though :) | 20:25 |
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| lbt | ty and fixed | 20:26 |
| lbt | though I need to fixe mer-core configs too I think | 20:26 |
| lbt | nb .. the rpm thing | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:26 |
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| Stskeeps | file a bug so we can track the issue? | 20:26 |
| lbt | is that endian or 64/32 that makes it fail | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | the location of the moon on the sky | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | i hope some of it goes away when switching to a modern libdb | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, 64/32 certainly doesn't help either | 20:27 |
| lbt | I was thinking it shouldn't be an issue using the SDK | 20:27 |
| lbt | unless it was one of those | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | either way, rebuilddb is good to do | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | especially for arm targets | 20:27 |
| lbt | heh ... I just wanted the comment to be accurate :) | 20:28 |
| * lbt found a bug in emacs | 20:30 | |
| lbt | the calendar missed pancake day | 20:30 |
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| * Stskeeps waits for qt-mobility to build | 20:32 | |
| Stskeeps | qt had an annoying tendancy to put timestamps into moc-generated code | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | -> rebuild mayhem | 20:33 |
| lbt | mer ks makes a mer user ... with uid 500 ..... guess my uid? | 20:35 |
| Stskeeps | 500? | 20:35 |
| lbt | :) | 20:35 |
| lbt | hey, at least the bug hits me | 20:36 |
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| phdeswer | lbt, weird I thought most distros started at 1000 for uid's... | 20:37 |
| lbt | phdeswer: I predate that | 20:37 |
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| phdeswer | ok :) | 20:38 |
| * phdeswer reads the website. | 20:38 | |
| phdeswer | Thinking of a spark and want to know where Mer is at these days | 20:38 |
| lbt | comments welcome | 20:38 |
| lbt | pretty stable | 20:39 |
| lbt | we're working on improving the efficiency of the build and verification processes | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | (and development..) | 20:39 |
| lbt | lowering barrier for platform development with an SDK | 20:39 |
| phdeswer | Stskeeps, Too bad we did not meet at Fosdem btw. How was the mobile room? | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | surprisingly well attended | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | we had to keep out 30+ people out of the tizen talk | 20:42 |
| phdeswer | Ok :) I must say I was a bit surprised to see that the programme was totally full with presentations. | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | it's all about querying in the right forums | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | i didn't have a chance to visit embedded this time around | 20:42 |
| phdeswer | Stskeeps, let's try to co-ordinate efforts again next year. People were a bit confused and came to ask me things about that small embedded room. | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, agreed | 20:43 |
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| phdeswer | Great :) | 20:44 |
| phdeswer | Now off to read the wiki. | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | i'm a bit inclined towards a more discussion oriented / workshop next year | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | it got a little fast with all the talks | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | phdeswer: you should give Nemo latest versions a shot.. the thing is beautiful and quite well working these days too | 20:45 |
| lbt | it needs a ring-tone selector | 20:45 |
| lbt | which is an awesome bug to be up to :D | 20:45 |
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| Stskeeps | ring tones are surprisingily difficult | 20:46 |
| phdeswer | Stskeeps, well lots of discussions and demos in the embedded room this year. | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:46 |
| phdeswer | Ok will look. But atm I just am temporarily assigned to Nokia Ulm so I only have my pandaboard to play with. (which atm is my debian armhf build box) | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | i should really get a pandaboard.. | 20:48 |
| * Stskeeps gets back to killing timestamps | 20:48 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: did you just do a release? | 20:48 |
| lbt | latest? | 20:48 |
| lbt | ah - no, sorry - it's redownloading all the packages | 20:49 |
| lbt | and I thought they'd changed | 20:49 |
| lbt | the cache is in the SDK | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i did 0.1 | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | not a full release | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | (prerelease, i dont change links | 20:50 |
| lbt | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/i486/packages didn't change? | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 20:50 |
| lbt | OK - just checking that "latest" meant "latest release" and not "latest including prerelease" | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | latest means latest full release | 20:51 |
| * lbt waits for new SDK to download itself | 20:51 | |
| lbt | and makes a note to find a way to move the mic cache out | 20:52 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm sending the updates storm of 0.1 to cobs now | 20:59 |
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