Thursday, 2011-12-29

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Stskeepsmorn06:03
iekkumorn06:03
Stskeepsmerry xmas iekku06:05
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iekkuStskeeps, same to you :)06:05
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* Stskeeps hunts coffee06:24
iekku:D06:25
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Termanamorning06:55
Stskeepsmorn Termana06:56
TermanaStskeeps, have a good Christmas?06:56
Stskeepslet's just say i'm glad to be back at my laptop06:57
Stskeeps:P06:57
Termanalol :p06:57
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Stskeepsiekku: how about a need-assignee@ field, ie, after a bug has been triaged?08:42
Stskeepser, user08:42
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Stskeepsmorn lbt o/09:59
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Stskeepsgoing to backtrack on the need to patch -ltinfo into everything using -lncurses, turns out fedora and ubuntu uses linking scripts too10:47
Stskeepsie, to make sure -ltinfo is linked when using ncurses10:47
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Stskeeps(http://review.merproject.org/268 )10:47
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iekkuStskeeps, should it be assigned to someone?11:31
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Stskeepsiekku: good question11:31
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hefeehello13:34
hefeei can't compile mer for n81013:34
hefeei get folloing error/warning: WARNING: Could not find package 'btrfs-progs' suitable arch for arch 'i686' for bootstrap installation. and other13:35
hefeecompelte log: http://dpaste.com/678943/13:36
Stskeepscan i see the command line too used?13:36
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hefeemic-image-creator --pkgmgr=yum --prefix=n810 --tmpdir=/tmp --fstype=vfat --format=raw --cache=mycache --arch=armv6l  --config=n810-armv6l-razor02.ks --overlay-size-mb=64 --mainrepo=mer-core --logfile=n810-armv6l-razor02.log13:37
Stskeepsok, remove --mainrepo=13:38
Stskeepsand then13:38
Stskeepssudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap13:38
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hefeenow: Error: failed to create image : Failed mount disks : Failed to map partitions for '/dev/loop0' http://dpaste.com/67894613:48
Stskeepsdo you have device mapper enabled in kernel?13:50
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hefeemmh i can i test this?13:51
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Stskeepsnormally i'd check if kpartx can work13:53
hefeekpartx works (kpartx -l /dev/sda)13:55
Stskeepshmm13:55
hefeei also use a crypted root13:56
hefeevia luks13:56
Stskeepsdon't suppose there's something on /dev/loop0 already?13:56
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hefeemmh good question14:00
Stskeepslosetup -d /dev/loop0 ?14:00
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hefeeloop: can't delete device /dev/loop0:14:01
hefeeso no it is free14:01
Stskeepshmm14:01
Stskeepsand you're running mic as root, i presume, or sudio?14:03
Stskeepssudo14:03
hefeenope i log in as root via sux14:04
Stskeepsok14:05
hefeei'm using debian/unstable14:06
Stskeepsyeah, i guessed as much14:06
Stskeepsgive into the code and see what tests it fails?14:06
Stskeepsit's python, so14:07
hefeeok i'll try14:09
hefeeto find the line14:09
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hefeemmh ok the first level is ready: mic-image-creator:94914:46
hefeebut i cant get the second level creator.mount14:47
hefeewhere this mount function is defined?14:47
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Stskeeps /usr/lib/python/site-packages somewhere likely14:50
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hefeenow i have the problem: 'Could not determine kernel version used.\ndevice mapper prerequisites not met\n'15:50
hefeefrom the cmd ['/sbin/kpartx', '-v', '-a', '/dev/loop0']15:50
hefeeStskeeps: ^^15:50
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Stskeepshmm16:01
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hefeei'm using kernel  3.1-616:02
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Stskeepsi'm not sure, sorry, debian unstable can be a bit of a mess at times :)16:09
Stskeepsi personally use a fedora 15 setup to do this work16:09
hefeenormally all runs quite ok16:09
hefeewhat are the mess points?16:09
hefeethen i can try the testing versions16:09
Stskeepsas in it's hard for 3rd party developers to target it16:10
Stskeepsas it's a very moving target :)16:10
hefeethat i understand16:12
phaeronprobably mic trying to parse the kernel version as a triplet ..16:13
phaeronhefee: which mic are you using16:13
Stskeepsphaeron: seems to come from kpartx16:13
hefee0.24.1216:16
hefeemic version ^^16:16
phaeronhefee: ok I can try to help if you give me the url of the ks16:17
hefeehttp://images.formeego.org/n810/n810-armv6l-razor01.ks16:18
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phaeronsec fighting with proxy16:25
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phaeronhefee: disk setup works here. (it fails later with Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'bluetooth-qt-devel' : No package(s) available to install)16:39
phaeronhefee: I am using 0.24.14 so could be that16:39
hefeeyou have debian also?16:40
phaeronyes debian unstable / experimental16:40
hefeebut build mic2 on your own16:45
phaeronyeah16:47
phaeroneither get latest mic2 from meego obs or use a git checkout16:47
phaeronhefee: alternatively use the packaged one here https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Project:MINT:Testing  , but it has a slight packaging problem , you need to mv /usr/local/bin/mic* /usr/bin/16:48
phaeronI might fix it some time soon16:49
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hefeenope i get the same error with 0.24.15git17:08
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phaeronok the two other things that could affect this : kpartx : 0.4.9-3 and linux-image-3.2.0-rc4-amd6417:13
phaeronhefee: sorry the current kernel I boot into is 3.1.0-1-amd6417:14
hefeefrom debian/unstable ?17:16
hefeelinux-image-2.6-amd64 3.1+41?17:16
hefeesame kpartx version17:17
phaeronhefee: http://pastie.org/309126817:17
hefeeok restart into the kernel 3.1.0-1-amd6417:22
phaeronhefee: what was your current kernel ?17:22
phaeronhefee: look at uname -a17:22
phaeronor -r17:22
hefeeLinux tabin 3.1-6.slh.1-aptosid-amd6417:22
phaeronthat would be the problem . no .017:23
phaeronannoying17:23
phaeronok -> food17:23
phaeronsee you later17:23
hefeerebooting :)17:23
hefeesee ya17:24
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hefeejeahey - it works many thanx  Stskeeps and peavey18:17
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Texrathey Venemo18:57
* w00t eyes Texrat18:58
Stskeepswelcome Texrat :)18:58
Texrateyes?  lol18:59
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Texrathey stskeeps18:59
Stskeepshad a good xmas?18:59
Texratpretty much, you?18:59
w00ti'm watching you, rat-man ;)18:59
StskeepsTexrat: so-so, usual family drama but i'm happy to be back to hack :P19:00
Venemohey Texrat, how're you doing? :)19:00
Texratstskeeps we managed to mostly avoid family drama this year (whew)19:02
Texratdoing ok Venemo, you?19:02
VenemoTexrat, I'm fine, thank you. well, I've had a weird evening yesterday, but I'm feeling much better now, thanks for asking :)19:02
Texratyeah my sinuses had me going nuts yesterday but better today19:03
VenemoI hanged out with two girls (an old acquintance and her roommate) and they made me drink a lot. I'll skip the details about what happened after the drinking...19:05
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Stskeepsand you call that a bad evening19:05
Stskeeps?19:05
Stskeeps:P19:05
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VenemoI didn't say bad, I said weird. that's only because I'm not used to having a hangover19:06
TexratVenemo I can only imagine, and I salue you :D19:06
Texratsalute*19:06
w00toccasional hangovers are fun19:06
Venemo:D19:07
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Stskeepsanyway, Texrat - good to see you here :) have you done any thoughts where you'd perhaps like to contribute?19:08
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Texratwell, stskeeps, that depends on what you need :D19:08
Venemow00t, have you ever used QFileSystemModel?19:08
Texratright now I am making a LOT of changes to my personal ecosystem...19:08
Texratfinding new focus19:09
w00tVenemo: not really.. I've poked at the internals of it once or twice :)19:09
w00twhy?19:09
StskeepsTexrat: well, perhaps it'd good to start with a intro of what is going on in the project19:09
Venemow00t, I simply can't figure out how to use it as a model for my QML GridView19:09
Texratmer will be *some* part of that, in blogging if nothing else19:09
Texratmy new blog site will follow mer19:10
StskeepsTexrat: we're very task-oriented in this project, ie, we store things people could be doing in bugzilla19:10
Texratgood idea19:10
w00tVenemo: ah.. it may have a few roadblocks for that that may make life hard, like a lack of setRoleNames19:10
Texratthere are actually good project management tools that plug right into bugzilla19:10
StskeepsTexrat: we try to incorporate transparency into the fabric of the project, including our processes being formally defined/executed by a computer19:10
w00tVenemo: what issues are there?19:10
Texratif you like19:10
Venemow00t, no specific issues, but nothing ever appears in there.19:11
StskeepsTexrat: http://review.merproject.org -> All, Merged gives a good impression of what i mean by transparency19:11
w00tand no cli output?19:11
Venemonope19:11
w00tinteresting19:12
StskeepsTexrat: in terms of inclusion, everyone can contribute, off the street, at least on code level19:12
Venemow00t, I may be doing it wrong.19:12
Texratok19:12
StskeepsTexrat: .. and suggested governance is along lines of http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Governance_draft19:12
Stskeepswith me currently acting as intermin(sp) architect19:12
w00trolenames was apparenly addressed at least (https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-7479), so i guess someone has tried to use it19:12
TexratStskeeps in case you had not noticed I have plugged into Qt marketing as I did Maemo and MeeGo...19:12
StskeepsTexrat: yes, i noticed19:13
TexratI can work for Mer in the same way19:13
Stskeepswe're big Qt lovers here too :)19:13
Texratright19:13
Texratso at the very least I will volunteer as Yet Another Evangelist ;)19:13
Stskeeps:nod:19:13
Texratmy new blog venture will be more professional BUT at the same time embrace open source and community19:14
TexratMer will get attention there19:14
* w00t had a nice surprise to be nominated for approver rights to Qt today19:14
Texratand there will be multiple writers, so more eyeballs19:14
Texratyou go w00t19:14
Stskeepswhat i really wouldn't mind is someone to help on the community side of things as well, ie, kickstarting our governance, making sure 'customers' (vendors) and contributors of Mer are represented in the governance properly19:15
Venemow00t, shall I pm you about this? it's kinda offtopic in this channel19:15
Stskeepsi've been driving that a bit myself but i must say i'm better at tech :)19:15
w00tVenemo: sure19:15
TexratOh!  I can help there Stskeeps19:15
Texratand something that may help: I am converting the MeeGo device program to a generic model for ANYone's use19:15
Stskeeps:nod:19:15
Texratthat includes designs for data model, process, web forms, etc19:16
Texratthere was interest from Ubuntu19:16
Stskeepsyeah, it's useful in many different circumstances19:16
TexratI will gladly work with vendors/Mer as I was doing for MeeGo19:16
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Texratwhen I was a product designer I got a lot of useful experience with material requirements management, vendor management, etc19:17
Stskeepshttp://ruote.rubyforge.org/ is what we use for formally defining processes, btw - the idea is that if people are unsatisfied with the mer process, they can send a patch instead of complaining19:18
Stskeeps:P19:18
Texratbeautiful19:18
TexratI *hate* complaining that is done without intent to help solve the issue19:18
Texratuseless19:18
Stskeepsbut anyway, just wanted to give some links so you know where we're going.. Mer is likely the center of many interesting open source and commercial projects in the time to come19:19
Texratthanks19:20
Stskeepssome thought that has been as well is that Mer is more like a co-operative than a community, ie, an organisation owned and operated by a group of individuals for mutual benefit19:20
Texratgood definition19:21
Texratit would be awesome if I could get sponsorship for you to present at @DFWMakerFest next year, ststkeeps19:21
Texratwww.dfwmakerfest.org19:21
TexratI'm one of the founders/organizers19:22
TexratMer would be a great project to represent19:22
Stskeepshopefully we can adapt old Mer's principles.. that anyone can present and we'll help provide slides and material to talk about it19:22
Stskeepspeople visited various US linux fests etc19:23
Texratagreed19:24
Stskeepsregarding co-operative: we're just a bunch of people from various companies working together to share the burden of maintaining a linux core -- we explicitly leave out UIs and hardware adaptations, so we can avoid the big politics that usually comes with that19:24
Stskeepsthe remaining issues are more of a technical and process nature19:24
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Stskeepsi want to make a core that's ideal for a world like in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38 :)19:25
Texratsounds good stskeeps, I will follow up.  Gotta get back to work now19:25
Stskeepssee you19:25
Texratlater all!19:25
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hefeehow do i mount root partition p1 and add copy bluetooth and WiFi firmware to firmware directory ?20:00
Stskeepsit's ext3/420:02
hefeemount -t ext3 n810-armv6-testing-20111229-1.2.90.20111229.1856-mmcblk0p.raw /mnt20:02
hefeeor what is ment by root partion?20:03
Stskeepsah.. kpartx -a n810-armv6-testing-20111229-1.2.90.20111229.1856-mmcblk0p.raw20:05
Stskeepsthen you can mount /dev/mapper/loop0p120:06
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Stskeepsafterwards, umount, then kpartx -d n810-armv6-testing-20111229-1.2.90.20111229.1856-mmcblk0p.raw20:06
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hefeeand where i can get the wireless libs?20:11
hefeefrom an old image?20:12
Stskeepsthey're in the maemo file system usually20:12
Stskeepsif you mean the firmware20:12
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hefeeokay found20:52
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alien_hi Stskeeps, I just read your answer to my email22:25
alien_I've been away from the internets lately22:26
alien_I understand that you don't want to force the mer infrastructure into other projects, such as the UXes, but I don't see any reasons why they should be blocked from using it22:30
alien_as long as they're clearly separated into their own projects in there22:30
alien_in case they would want to use it in the first place22:31
alien_another project besides the UXes that could benefit from a shared infrastructure would be some Mer equivalent to the Maemo extras repos where anyone could work22:33
phaeronalien_: you on #obs too ? :D22:35
alien_yes22:35
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