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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:03 |
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| iekku | morn | 06:03 |
| Stskeeps | merry xmas iekku | 06:05 |
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| iekku | Stskeeps, same to you :) | 06:05 |
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| iekku | :D | 06:25 |
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| Termana | morning | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | morn Termana | 06:56 |
| Termana | Stskeeps, have a good Christmas? | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | let's just say i'm glad to be back at my laptop | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:57 |
| Termana | lol :p | 06:57 |
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| Stskeeps | iekku: how about a need-assignee@ field, ie, after a bug has been triaged? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | er, user | 08:42 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt o/ | 09:59 |
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| Stskeeps | going to backtrack on the need to patch -ltinfo into everything using -lncurses, turns out fedora and ubuntu uses linking scripts too | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | ie, to make sure -ltinfo is linked when using ncurses | 10:47 |
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| Stskeeps | (http://review.merproject.org/268 ) | 10:47 |
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| iekku | Stskeeps, should it be assigned to someone? | 11:31 |
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| Stskeeps | iekku: good question | 11:31 |
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| hefee | hello | 13:34 |
| hefee | i can't compile mer for n810 | 13:34 |
| hefee | i get folloing error/warning: WARNING: Could not find package 'btrfs-progs' suitable arch for arch 'i686' for bootstrap installation. and other | 13:35 |
| hefee | compelte log: http://dpaste.com/678943/ | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | can i see the command line too used? | 13:36 |
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| hefee | mic-image-creator --pkgmgr=yum --prefix=n810 --tmpdir=/tmp --fstype=vfat --format=raw --cache=mycache --arch=armv6l --config=n810-armv6l-razor02.ks --overlay-size-mb=64 --mainrepo=mer-core --logfile=n810-armv6l-razor02.log | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok, remove --mainrepo= | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | and then | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | sudo mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap | 13:38 |
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| hefee | now: Error: failed to create image : Failed mount disks : Failed to map partitions for '/dev/loop0' http://dpaste.com/678946 | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | do you have device mapper enabled in kernel? | 13:50 |
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| hefee | mmh i can i test this? | 13:51 |
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| Stskeeps | normally i'd check if kpartx can work | 13:53 |
| hefee | kpartx works (kpartx -l /dev/sda) | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:55 |
| hefee | i also use a crypted root | 13:56 |
| hefee | via luks | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | don't suppose there's something on /dev/loop0 already? | 13:56 |
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| hefee | mmh good question | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | losetup -d /dev/loop0 ? | 14:00 |
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| hefee | loop: can't delete device /dev/loop0: | 14:01 |
| hefee | so no it is free | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | and you're running mic as root, i presume, or sudio? | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | sudo | 14:03 |
| hefee | nope i log in as root via sux | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:05 |
| hefee | i'm using debian/unstable | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i guessed as much | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | give into the code and see what tests it fails? | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's python, so | 14:07 |
| hefee | ok i'll try | 14:09 |
| hefee | to find the line | 14:09 |
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| hefee | mmh ok the first level is ready: mic-image-creator:949 | 14:46 |
| hefee | but i cant get the second level creator.mount | 14:47 |
| hefee | where this mount function is defined? | 14:47 |
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| Stskeeps | /usr/lib/python/site-packages somewhere likely | 14:50 |
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| hefee | thx | 14:53 |
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| hefee | now i have the problem: 'Could not determine kernel version used.\ndevice mapper prerequisites not met\n' | 15:50 |
| hefee | from the cmd ['/sbin/kpartx', '-v', '-a', '/dev/loop0'] | 15:50 |
| hefee | Stskeeps: ^^ | 15:50 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 16:01 |
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| hefee | i'm using kernel 3.1-6 | 16:02 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm not sure, sorry, debian unstable can be a bit of a mess at times :) | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | i personally use a fedora 15 setup to do this work | 16:09 |
| hefee | normally all runs quite ok | 16:09 |
| hefee | what are the mess points? | 16:09 |
| hefee | then i can try the testing versions | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | as in it's hard for 3rd party developers to target it | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | as it's a very moving target :) | 16:10 |
| hefee | that i understand | 16:12 |
| phaeron | probably mic trying to parse the kernel version as a triplet .. | 16:13 |
| phaeron | hefee: which mic are you using | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: seems to come from kpartx | 16:13 |
| hefee | 0.24.12 | 16:16 |
| hefee | mic version ^^ | 16:16 |
| phaeron | hefee: ok I can try to help if you give me the url of the ks | 16:17 |
| hefee | http://images.formeego.org/n810/n810-armv6l-razor01.ks | 16:18 |
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| phaeron | sec fighting with proxy | 16:25 |
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| phaeron | hefee: disk setup works here. (it fails later with Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'bluetooth-qt-devel' : No package(s) available to install) | 16:39 |
| phaeron | hefee: I am using 0.24.14 so could be that | 16:39 |
| hefee | you have debian also? | 16:40 |
| phaeron | yes debian unstable / experimental | 16:40 |
| hefee | but build mic2 on your own | 16:45 |
| phaeron | yeah | 16:47 |
| phaeron | either get latest mic2 from meego obs or use a git checkout | 16:47 |
| phaeron | hefee: alternatively use the packaged one here https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Project:MINT:Testing , but it has a slight packaging problem , you need to mv /usr/local/bin/mic* /usr/bin/ | 16:48 |
| phaeron | I might fix it some time soon | 16:49 |
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| hefee | nope i get the same error with 0.24.15git | 17:08 |
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| phaeron | ok the two other things that could affect this : kpartx : 0.4.9-3 and linux-image-3.2.0-rc4-amd64 | 17:13 |
| phaeron | hefee: sorry the current kernel I boot into is 3.1.0-1-amd64 | 17:14 |
| hefee | from debian/unstable ? | 17:16 |
| hefee | linux-image-2.6-amd64 3.1+41? | 17:16 |
| hefee | same kpartx version | 17:17 |
| phaeron | hefee: http://pastie.org/3091268 | 17:17 |
| hefee | ok restart into the kernel 3.1.0-1-amd64 | 17:22 |
| phaeron | hefee: what was your current kernel ? | 17:22 |
| phaeron | hefee: look at uname -a | 17:22 |
| phaeron | or -r | 17:22 |
| hefee | Linux tabin 3.1-6.slh.1-aptosid-amd64 | 17:22 |
| phaeron | that would be the problem . no .0 | 17:23 |
| phaeron | annoying | 17:23 |
| phaeron | ok -> food | 17:23 |
| phaeron | see you later | 17:23 |
| hefee | rebooting :) | 17:23 |
| hefee | see ya | 17:24 |
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| hefee | jeahey - it works many thanx Stskeeps and peavey | 18:17 |
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| Texrat | hey Venemo | 18:57 |
| * w00t eyes Texrat | 18:58 | |
| Stskeeps | welcome Texrat :) | 18:58 |
| Texrat | eyes? lol | 18:59 |
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| Texrat | hey stskeeps | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | had a good xmas? | 18:59 |
| Texrat | pretty much, you? | 18:59 |
| w00t | i'm watching you, rat-man ;) | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: so-so, usual family drama but i'm happy to be back to hack :P | 19:00 |
| Venemo | hey Texrat, how're you doing? :) | 19:00 |
| Texrat | stskeeps we managed to mostly avoid family drama this year (whew) | 19:02 |
| Texrat | doing ok Venemo, you? | 19:02 |
| Venemo | Texrat, I'm fine, thank you. well, I've had a weird evening yesterday, but I'm feeling much better now, thanks for asking :) | 19:02 |
| Texrat | yeah my sinuses had me going nuts yesterday but better today | 19:03 |
| Venemo | I hanged out with two girls (an old acquintance and her roommate) and they made me drink a lot. I'll skip the details about what happened after the drinking... | 19:05 |
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| Stskeeps | and you call that a bad evening | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:05 |
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| Venemo | I didn't say bad, I said weird. that's only because I'm not used to having a hangover | 19:06 |
| Texrat | Venemo I can only imagine, and I salue you :D | 19:06 |
| Texrat | salute* | 19:06 |
| w00t | occasional hangovers are fun | 19:06 |
| Venemo | :D | 19:07 |
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| Stskeeps | anyway, Texrat - good to see you here :) have you done any thoughts where you'd perhaps like to contribute? | 19:08 |
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| Texrat | well, stskeeps, that depends on what you need :D | 19:08 |
| Venemo | w00t, have you ever used QFileSystemModel? | 19:08 |
| Texrat | right now I am making a LOT of changes to my personal ecosystem... | 19:08 |
| Texrat | finding new focus | 19:09 |
| w00t | Venemo: not really.. I've poked at the internals of it once or twice :) | 19:09 |
| w00t | why? | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: well, perhaps it'd good to start with a intro of what is going on in the project | 19:09 |
| Venemo | w00t, I simply can't figure out how to use it as a model for my QML GridView | 19:09 |
| Texrat | mer will be *some* part of that, in blogging if nothing else | 19:09 |
| Texrat | my new blog site will follow mer | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: we're very task-oriented in this project, ie, we store things people could be doing in bugzilla | 19:10 |
| Texrat | good idea | 19:10 |
| w00t | Venemo: ah.. it may have a few roadblocks for that that may make life hard, like a lack of setRoleNames | 19:10 |
| Texrat | there are actually good project management tools that plug right into bugzilla | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: we try to incorporate transparency into the fabric of the project, including our processes being formally defined/executed by a computer | 19:10 |
| w00t | Venemo: what issues are there? | 19:10 |
| Texrat | if you like | 19:10 |
| Venemo | w00t, no specific issues, but nothing ever appears in there. | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: http://review.merproject.org -> All, Merged gives a good impression of what i mean by transparency | 19:11 |
| w00t | and no cli output? | 19:11 |
| Venemo | nope | 19:11 |
| w00t | interesting | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: in terms of inclusion, everyone can contribute, off the street, at least on code level | 19:12 |
| Venemo | w00t, I may be doing it wrong. | 19:12 |
| Texrat | ok | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: .. and suggested governance is along lines of http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Governance_draft | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | with me currently acting as intermin(sp) architect | 19:12 |
| w00t | rolenames was apparenly addressed at least (https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-7479), so i guess someone has tried to use it | 19:12 |
| Texrat | Stskeeps in case you had not noticed I have plugged into Qt marketing as I did Maemo and MeeGo... | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | Texrat: yes, i noticed | 19:13 |
| Texrat | I can work for Mer in the same way | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | we're big Qt lovers here too :) | 19:13 |
| Texrat | right | 19:13 |
| Texrat | so at the very least I will volunteer as Yet Another Evangelist ;) | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:13 |
| Texrat | my new blog venture will be more professional BUT at the same time embrace open source and community | 19:14 |
| Texrat | Mer will get attention there | 19:14 |
| * w00t had a nice surprise to be nominated for approver rights to Qt today | 19:14 | |
| Texrat | and there will be multiple writers, so more eyeballs | 19:14 |
| Texrat | you go w00t | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | what i really wouldn't mind is someone to help on the community side of things as well, ie, kickstarting our governance, making sure 'customers' (vendors) and contributors of Mer are represented in the governance properly | 19:15 |
| Venemo | w00t, shall I pm you about this? it's kinda offtopic in this channel | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | i've been driving that a bit myself but i must say i'm better at tech :) | 19:15 |
| w00t | Venemo: sure | 19:15 |
| Texrat | Oh! I can help there Stskeeps | 19:15 |
| Texrat | and something that may help: I am converting the MeeGo device program to a generic model for ANYone's use | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:15 |
| Texrat | that includes designs for data model, process, web forms, etc | 19:16 |
| Texrat | there was interest from Ubuntu | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's useful in many different circumstances | 19:16 |
| Texrat | I will gladly work with vendors/Mer as I was doing for MeeGo | 19:16 |
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| Texrat | when I was a product designer I got a lot of useful experience with material requirements management, vendor management, etc | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | http://ruote.rubyforge.org/ is what we use for formally defining processes, btw - the idea is that if people are unsatisfied with the mer process, they can send a patch instead of complaining | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:18 |
| Texrat | beautiful | 19:18 |
| Texrat | I *hate* complaining that is done without intent to help solve the issue | 19:18 |
| Texrat | useless | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway, just wanted to give some links so you know where we're going.. Mer is likely the center of many interesting open source and commercial projects in the time to come | 19:19 |
| Texrat | thanks | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | some thought that has been as well is that Mer is more like a co-operative than a community, ie, an organisation owned and operated by a group of individuals for mutual benefit | 19:20 |
| Texrat | good definition | 19:21 |
| Texrat | it would be awesome if I could get sponsorship for you to present at @DFWMakerFest next year, ststkeeps | 19:21 |
| Texrat | www.dfwmakerfest.org | 19:21 |
| Texrat | I'm one of the founders/organizers | 19:22 |
| Texrat | Mer would be a great project to represent | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully we can adapt old Mer's principles.. that anyone can present and we'll help provide slides and material to talk about it | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | people visited various US linux fests etc | 19:23 |
| Texrat | agreed | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | regarding co-operative: we're just a bunch of people from various companies working together to share the burden of maintaining a linux core -- we explicitly leave out UIs and hardware adaptations, so we can avoid the big politics that usually comes with that | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | the remaining issues are more of a technical and process nature | 19:24 |
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| Stskeeps | i want to make a core that's ideal for a world like in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38 :) | 19:25 |
| Texrat | sounds good stskeeps, I will follow up. Gotta get back to work now | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | see you | 19:25 |
| Texrat | later all! | 19:25 |
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| hefee | how do i mount root partition p1 and add copy bluetooth and WiFi firmware to firmware directory ? | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | it's ext3/4 | 20:02 |
| hefee | mount -t ext3 n810-armv6-testing-20111229-1.2.90.20111229.1856-mmcblk0p.raw /mnt | 20:02 |
| hefee | or what is ment by root partion? | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. kpartx -a n810-armv6-testing-20111229-1.2.90.20111229.1856-mmcblk0p.raw | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | then you can mount /dev/mapper/loop0p1 | 20:06 |
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| Stskeeps | afterwards, umount, then kpartx -d n810-armv6-testing-20111229-1.2.90.20111229.1856-mmcblk0p.raw | 20:06 |
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| hefee | and where i can get the wireless libs? | 20:11 |
| hefee | from an old image? | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | they're in the maemo file system usually | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | if you mean the firmware | 20:12 |
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| hefee | okay found | 20:52 |
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| alien_ | hi Stskeeps, I just read your answer to my email | 22:25 |
| alien_ | I've been away from the internets lately | 22:26 |
| alien_ | I understand that you don't want to force the mer infrastructure into other projects, such as the UXes, but I don't see any reasons why they should be blocked from using it | 22:30 |
| alien_ | as long as they're clearly separated into their own projects in there | 22:30 |
| alien_ | in case they would want to use it in the first place | 22:31 |
| alien_ | another project besides the UXes that could benefit from a shared infrastructure would be some Mer equivalent to the Maemo extras repos where anyone could work | 22:33 |
| phaeron | alien_: you on #obs too ? :D | 22:35 |
| alien_ | yes | 22:35 |
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