Saturday, 2011-11-05

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cxl000n810 video botting into QtDesktop
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vgradecxl000, nice03:13
vgradelife in the old hardware03:14
cxl000Just refreshed with the current mer release03:34
cxl000rpm database works.03:35
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Stskeepscxl000: how are you with xorg driver hacking?06:47
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cxl000Stskeeps not done it before bit I expect I could pick it up.07:37
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Stskeepscxl000: ok, so, the N8x0s, each time you modify the framebuffer you need to poke it with a ioctl to make it send it to a ioctl07:48
Stskeepscxl000: Nemo's xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx has code that shows how it can be done07:48
Stskeepssend it to the LCD, i mean07:49
Stskeepsthat's why it looks choppy atm07:49
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cxl000I'll have a look at how its done.07:59
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Stskeepsit will help perceived performance a lot08:00
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Jucatomourn, and moan08:30
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Stskeepsmorn vgrade08:51
vgradeStskeeps, morning,08:53
vgradeI've been trying to reproduce a N950 fs from the ks files posted08:53
Stskeepsjust use same method as for n900 i think08:54
vgradegetting some weird mic errors, scriplets not running , permissions on /dev/null08:54
vgradeimage boot loops08:55
vgradedid a diff on good fs and mine and had differnces, in gfx libs and gfx links08:56
vgradeyes sudo, newly created bootstrap08:56
vgradewill give it another go later , bowling now08:56
Jucatocxl000: nice job on the n810.  just have to say, the entrance of the stylus at the beginning was somewhat creepy :)09:01
cxl000Stskeeps How do I create a project linked to fakeobs for xserver-xorg-video-fbdev09:02
cxl000Jucato I thought I would through that in to show that the touchscreen was calibrated09:03
Jucatocxl000: yeah that's good. the entrance just looked a bit spooky. slowly coming in from the side :)09:04
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Stskeepscxl000: osc branch Mer:fake:Core:armv6l[D[D[D[D packagename09:20
Stskeepscxl000: and add repos as in topic09:21
Stskeepscxl000: osc branch Mer:fake:Core:armv6l packagename09:21
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Stskeepsmorn lbt10:18
lbtADSL went down :(10:18
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_Thomas <- If any of you're interested in working with the next big thing :)     (running it through google translet Norwegian -> english works well for those who don't read norwegian)10:39
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phaeronlbt: mine too for half and hour yesterday ,  sunspots?10:48
phaeronthere was a huge sunspot :D10:48
lbt4am ?10:48
phaeronno around 1am10:50
lbtI guess they last a while though10:51
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dm8tbr_Thomas: this sounds like drivers for an EGL core, closed source usually, yuck11:03
_Thomasdm8tbr: Huh?11:04
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_Thomasdm8tbr: It's for a small (tiny) plugin computer that is using the Exynos 4210 as it's AP11:07
_ThomasPerfect to use as a devkit for Android, mer or Ubuntu-ARM, for instance11:08
ali1234what does it plug in to?11:10
_ThomasIt's got HDMI in one end, and USB in the other end11:12
_ThomasAnd is capable of transmitting the framebuffer both ways11:12
dm8tbr_Thomas: mh, maybe I misunderstood their concept then it sounded like yet-another IP-core for 3d11:12
_Thomas(and sound)11:12
_Thomasdm8tbr: We're done with that ;)11:12
_Thomasdm8tbr: Three of us worked with Mali in Falanx and ARM, so no point in doing it once more, now it's on to the next thing :)11:14
_Thomas(which happens to be using Mali)11:14
dm8tbrah, ok11:15
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ali1234ok, by "memory devices" you mean USB/SD cards11:18
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ali1234an interesting idea, but i don't see how you will convince ODMs to write the necessary drivers for their legacy products11:21
dm8tbrthat's what I see as a problem too, how would that hardware have the universal compatibility while retaining the intended functionality?11:22
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_Thomasali1234: What we have right now is the USB-product, the sd-card needs too much funding (to produce the chip), so we put that on hold a few months ago12:04
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_Thomasali1234: And, if your screen supports HDMI, there's no need for any drivers12:05
_Thomasali1234: If you want to use the USB-end as to provide framebuffer, you need a client (Which we already have for linux, mac and windows)12:05
_Thomasali1234: And the communication is done through usb mass storage (the host where you insert the usb device sees this as an usb mass storage unit)12:06
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dm8tbr_Thomas: so it's a hw accelerated video decoder in a USB/HDMI form-factor?12:32
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_Thomasdm8tbr: It does that too, yes :)13:27
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: application processor/SoC it seems rather like13:29
Stskeepsthink raspberry pi first prototype ish, maybe,
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* Stskeeps tries to write an abstract for FOSDEM13:45
* slonopotamus runs linux-3.1 on n80013:46
_av500_Stskeeps: about mer compliance? :)13:48
slonopotamusStskeeps: that's the difference between us: you produce binaries and videos, i produce patches and instructions :P13:48
Stskeepsslonopotamus: i don't produce anything13:48
Stskeeps_av500_: "we don't have any compliance"13:49
_av500_Stskeeps: i will complain about that fact loudly!13:49
Stskeeps_av500_: this time around i'm taking an approach that's more likely to offend conservative linux users13:49
berndhscompliance with what ?13:50
* Jucato wonders what Stskeeps means ... too sleepy to infer13:53
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StskeepsJucato: Beyond Mobile Linux: abstract, The last few years has seen many different Mobile Linux projects come and go, both big and small, commercial and open source. This talk seeks to present about the current state of Mobile Linux and future challenges of the platforms that drive our mobile devices. The angle of attack is to identify and explain tendencies in technology about moving beyond Mobile Linux as defined by Linux handsets, ...13:56
Stskeeps... netbooks and tablets - towards more unified and more connected experiences of interaction. The talk will center around the problems and challenges that open source efforts will have in such a world of connected experiences and describe what current efforts exist within the open source community that recognise this shift beyond traditional Mobile Linux.13:56
Stskeeps.. ish13:56
Jucatoah I see13:57
Stskeepssounds good/bad?>13:57
Jucatoyes, "mobile linux" is quite offensive to conservative linux users13:57
Stskeepsi was more thinking about a potential quote of "i don't give a rats ass about that your motif app probably doesn't work"13:57
Jucatowell, that's the reason it's offensive to them ;)13:58
leinirStskeeps: you need to put that on the first slide behind your "this is me" slide ;)13:59
Stskeepsleinir: true, they have to have time to locate some rotten tomatoes14:00
ali1234wait, wht is QtDesktop??14:00
Stskeepsali1234: some qt based desktop environment we found14:00
leinirSomething like "Anybody with a UNIX beard and wearing sandals, you might want to leave the room now" ;)14:00
ali1234it looks like exactly what i am looking for14:00
Jucato(the name is actually "Razor" afaik)14:08
Stskeeps"Conservative views will be challenged and holy cows of traditional open source will be touched as entirely new approaches to a Linux experience - both in software, distributions and UI toolkits is needed to face these new challenges."14:14
Stskeepslet's see if this one works14:14
_ThomasStskeeps: What are you writing on?14:15
_Thomas(I've been out for a bit :)14:15
Stskeeps_Thomas: FOSDEM main track presentation proposal14:15
Stskeepson Beyond mobile linux14:15
_ThomasTypicall, how many people attend this event?14:16
_ThomasAh, reading pages usually helps14:16
_Thomasaround a few thousands?14:16
Stskeepsabout 4000 supposedly14:17
Stskeepsa lot of devroom, etc14:17
Stskeepswe'll hopefully have one on open mobile linux this year14:17
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Stskeepslbt: ping15:24
Stskeepslbt: i've seen wi.result be True and False.. can it be something else?15:24
cxl000Stskeeps: Do you know what the distribution status is for the n8x0 bluetooth firmware bc4fw.bin?15:24
lbtit can be - it's just a convention15:25
Stskeepslbt: as in, if i wanted to return, let's say a tuple or similar15:25
Stskeepscxl000: assume 'can't distribute'15:25
lbtrather than 'return' something, add information to the fields area15:25
lbtits more meaningful I think15:25
* lbt just having some local niggles:15:26
lbt$ ssh mer15:26
lbtYou don't exist, go away!15:26
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Stskeepsi wonder if we should somehow set up a IP tunnel between mer-hetzner machines15:42
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Bostikin response to backlog highlight: yes, working on qtwebkit 2.2 packaging and as soon as I have a voodoo batch that works, I'll make the spec and patches public15:45
Bostikqt and out-of-tree seem be two things that rarely meet...15:46
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vgradeBostik, ok, I found this as well,
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Bostikoh cool, I'll have a look tomorrow when I have a real computer to work with15:47
Bostike71 is not quite the thing for development15:47
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xruxaOBS being down all day is no news, is it?17:15
berndhsah finally, the weekend is here !17:17 no17:17, more surprised17:17
xruxaStskeeps: all I see all day is slowness and those 400 remote error: unexpected EOF errors :(17:20
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xruxaFor something completely different - how does one use our repos in Fedora? I tried to add and yum just gives up on that ...17:21
Stskeepsadding them to a fedora install might not be good for your health :P17:22
xruxaI mean, this one - just wanted RPM packaged meegotouch and such ;)17:23
Stskeepsok, something is definately still amatter17:24
Stskeepsi'm getting 5kb/s from my rsync17:24
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vgradegreen block on;button=Redraw;mib=ifInOctets%3AifOutOctets%3AtransitOctets%3AtransitRate;cfunc=Avg;size=Normal;limit=100000000000;period=day;period=week again17:44
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berndhswhat's with all that traffic? DOS? Tizen ramping up? someone builing QtWebkit2 ?18:16
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Venemodoes Mer's X have the multitouch XInput hacks?20:24
Stskeepsit supports xinput2 but i think it's part of upstream20:25
Venemoafaik multitouch in X is not part of upstream yet.20:25
Venemoand according to thiago and a couple of peope in #meego it won't be for some time20:26
Stskeepslook for xinput2, i don't have any specific patches i think20:26
Venemowell, MeeGo had them, so if you used the package from MeeGo, you probably have them too20:26
Venemootherwise not.20:26
Stskeepsfeel free to check;a=tree20:27
Stskeepsthat's the one from meego20:27
Stskeepsbbl sleep20:27
Venemogood night.20:28
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