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| Stskeeps | lbt / Sage : http://212.110.185.213/wiki/Test_process | 08:25 |
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| Stskeeps | let's extend on that - also, if it seems plausible to you | 08:25 |
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| smoku | hi | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | lo smoku | 08:28 |
| smoku | good to see you Stskeeps | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: think it would be possible to make automatic image installation and booting for cordiatab? | 08:29 |
| smoku | please elaborate | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok, first off, you saw http://monster.tspre.org:8080 ? (check "All" -> "Merged")? | 08:30 |
| smoku | nope | 08:31 |
| smoku | opening | 08:31 |
| smoku | (be patient - GPRS here) | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | k | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | it's a google web toolkit app so may not work on mobile browser at least | 08:32 |
| smoku | I'm at my laptop. | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 08:32 |
| smoku | but my parents-in-law do not have a wire ;-) | 08:33 |
| smoku | so I'm tethering via n900 | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | point ;) | 08:33 |
| smoku | BTW, I'm very pleased how the mobile networks support progressed in latest linux distributions. it just works | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | when you've seen that.. the idea is that when a proposed merge comes in, we run tests as in http://212.110.185.213/wiki/Test_process which in the end gives a repository that vendors can use to make an image and test if the merge breaks their things | 08:34 |
| smoku | ok. I have "Search for status:merged" | 08:34 |
| smoku | what to look at there | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | and then hopefully be able to install automatically to a device and test it, reporting back if this change is good or bad | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | well, anything, could try Add no-timestamps patch | 08:35 |
| smoku | oh. | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | all mer packages are in git now so | 08:36 |
| smoku | so it should be possible with the i586 image I'm working on ATM | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | for example yes | 08:36 |
| smoku | as for ARM image... we don't have cordia arm hardware yet, so ... | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | just pondering if this seems to be a sane method to QA the core | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | we'll of course help with tools to make it easier to automatically build images/flash them | 08:37 |
| smoku | any ideas how to do this automated testing, yet? | 08:37 |
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| smoku | or is it up to the vendor? | 08:37 |
| dm8tbr | I'd guess boards like Beagle, panda, snowball might be better suited | 08:37 |
| dm8tbr | for on device testing, as they have a lot of helpful things exposed like reset, serial, etc | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: we hope to help with some kind of standardized methods with a tiny part for hardware adaptation | 08:38 |
| smoku | yup. booting an image via nfs without flashing makes things a lot easier | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:38 |
| dm8tbr | IIRC meego developed frameworks for automated testing, probably from the nokia side | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwCdiEkfsSo | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | (n900 automatic installation) | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | basically a initrd and usb networking | 08:39 |
| smoku | even booting an image to the point it starts UX and an "report-boot-ok" script from ux autostart is a good test | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 08:40 |
| dm8tbr | bonuspoints if you dump a screenshot or two | 08:41 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: morning ... | 08:41 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/2240 | 08:41 |
| lbt | reading test stuff too | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | k | 08:41 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: BTW, should i build for Mer:Trunk:Core or Core:i586 ? | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: on my OBS, Core:i586 | 08:42 |
| smoku | k | 08:42 |
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| Stskeeps | on COBS, the stuff in topic | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | i hope we can set up some test rigs so we can do automated testing on various boards and move the checks ahead faster | 08:43 |
| * dm8tbr has spare beagles | 08:44 | |
| dm8tbr | could also probably get a snowball | 08:44 |
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| Stskeeps | and well, since we have a i486 port we can utilize old crap too | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:48 |
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| araujo | morning | 08:48 |
| araujo | (early one for me) | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | morn araujo | 08:48 |
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| araujo | Stskeeps, hello there o/ | 08:49 |
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| Mordae[n900] | Morning. | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:09 |
| Mordae[n900] | I love weekends. | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | hrm | 09:11 |
| lbt | so Stskeeps can yo look at and approve https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/2240 | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, i see BOSS doesn't interpret the RPM spec files | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | (Version: thing) | 09:12 |
| lbt | mmm | 09:12 |
| lbt | have you seen the spec file? | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | yes i have | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | approved | 09:12 |
| lbt | to work it would have to run rpm on it - I'm interested in how we'd do that | 09:12 |
| lbt | maybe that's the answer.... | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | weell | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:13 |
| lbt | they guys who wrote that check are ex-debian | 09:13 |
| lbt | no macros .... WYSIWYG | 09:13 |
| lbt | rpm is more .... ethereal | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | macros make life so much easer | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | ie | 09:14 |
| * Stskeeps goes check something on his exopc | 09:14 | |
| lbt | I consdidered parsing the yaml ... grep beta1 qt.yaml | 09:16 |
| lbt | so the yaml doesn't even mention the 'beta1' | 09:16 |
| lbt | grep beta1 qt.spec | 09:16 |
| lbt | %define upstream_extra_version beta1 | 09:16 |
| lbt | the spec has it in by magic | 09:16 |
| lbt | and the version is in a magical value that's not used in other spec files | 09:17 |
| lbt | so.... hmm | 09:17 |
| smoku | lbt: and "rpm --showrc" is not scripting friendly ;-) | 09:18 |
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| lbt | smoku: Ideally I'd like to run pre-check stuff without a full checkout | 09:19 |
| lbt | the idea is simple sanity checks ... "did you add a changelog" | 09:19 |
| lbt | things that RE should not need to do | 09:20 |
| smoku | osc does a lot of this magic with osc-validators | 09:20 |
| lbt | so ... you'd think ... "look in the spec file"... :) | 09:20 |
| smoku | but it has a working rpm and full checkout though | 09:20 |
| lbt | *nod* | 09:20 |
| lbt | and can't be 'enforced' | 09:21 |
| * lbt knows of a commercial place where the subcontract team just remove all the tests to make it build | 09:21 | |
| lbt | then ship to RE | 09:21 |
| dm8tbr | :D | 09:21 |
| smoku | i guess it's easier to just bite the bullet and do it in minimal working env :/ | 09:21 |
| lbt | the yaml thing could address a lot of this | 09:22 |
| lbt | and so could policy | 09:22 |
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| lbt | lets be honest .. Debian actually did *some* things quite well :) | 09:22 |
| lbt | like the changelog file being the master of certain data | 09:23 |
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| lbt | smoku: ROFL : https://gitorious.org/opensuse/osc-source_validator/blobs/master/50-spec-version#line32 | 09:27 |
| lbt | and Stskeeps ^^ | 09:27 |
| cxl000 | Is there a way to see what packages Mer_Core_armvhl on COBS provides? | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | cxl000: osc ls Mer:fake:armv7hl | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: hah | 09:28 |
| smoku | lbt: uechecheche | 09:28 |
| smoku | :D | 09:28 |
| smoku | aw crap... osc copypac between two OBS instances is actually pulling stuff through my PC. poor GPRS | 09:29 |
| lbt | smoku: yeah | 09:30 |
| lbt | is there a remote link ? | 09:30 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: you don't have link to COBS, right? | 09:30 |
| lbt | a copypac from remote:PRJ pkg local:PRJ is OK | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | correct, i don't | 09:30 |
| smoku | I will do it later then | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, does testing logic seem sane? | 09:31 |
| lbt | it seems like a significant change to what we do now | 09:31 |
| lbt | you know I think the mastering in git is "the right way" - so I'm good with that | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | it is, but it's also more in line with how the releases are structured in git now and the ability to follow mer change-by-change | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | there's a part i haven't written about how we check the changesets in the git repo that includes packages.xml | 09:33 |
| lbt | I feel like we're 99% to having some automation done and I don't want to change direction again without finishing it | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | sure, finish that in CE | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine with me, the Mer stuff can run semi-manually for a bit | 09:33 |
| lbt | OK | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | it's just to scope out what we need to do in order to have quality core :) | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | and some of the stuff/checks from CE can be reused easily in this | 09:34 |
| lbt | the mechanisms are new | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | still | 09:35 |
| lbt | what's a test? | 09:35 |
| lbt | build? boot? | 09:35 |
| lbt | make image? | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | very good question too | 09:36 |
| lbt | especially if HW gets involved | 09:36 |
| lbt | then "what platforms must pass?" | 09:36 |
| lbt | what if 4/5 pass | 09:36 |
| lbt | so I kinda know the answers in the process around OBS | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | well, there'll be a manual step for approving so we'll set up criteria - it's feedback to the contributor and the approver | 09:37 |
| lbt | and how do we handle the funnel effect? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | funnel? | 09:37 |
| lbt | where patches build up in a couple of upstreams and then finally come to 'trunk' | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | right | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | and combined they break? | 09:38 |
| lbt | yes | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | that's one of the steps i haven't made yet :) | 09:38 |
| lbt | or a place for a couple of dependent things to be integrated | 09:38 |
| lbt | "Team areas" | 09:38 |
| lbt | yeah - it's something I want to introduce conceptually without getting too bogged down in | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | i basically would like simple testing to get working fairly soon, ie, localdep and single-build | 09:39 |
| lbt | the main thing is so we don't get all "I never thought about threading" | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | gerrit also has "depends on change" feature | 09:39 |
| lbt | I am thinking we should assume multiple gerrits | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | i guess also possible | 09:40 |
| lbt | I have another suggestion .... | 09:41 |
| lbt | can you help me nail CE | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | sure, what can i do? | 09:41 |
| lbt | and then we can both work on Mer? | 09:41 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: how is meego snapshot linked in your OBS? | 09:41 |
| lbt | get all Sage's commits fixed | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: fakeobs:Trunk | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | mmkay, which is..? | 09:41 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: thx | 09:41 |
| lbt | and fix/decide on the criteria like Version | 09:41 |
| lbt | sage wants home:sage | 09:42 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AMW%3AShared | 09:42 |
| lbt | promoted to CE:MW:Shared | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | right | 09:42 |
| lbt | 2 down :) | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | so, am i supposed to see some SR requests anywhere? | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | for review | 09:43 |
| lbt | well, that one this morning | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | right, approved that one | 09:44 |
| lbt | so that's just finished the trial build | 09:44 |
| lbt | the 30m timeout was too short.... the process went into error/call admin | 09:44 |
| lbt | which is kinda cool | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 09:44 |
| lbt | so I just said "oontinue process" | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | i'll probably have to use the process too as i'll rebase N900/N950 hw adaptation for CE/Mer | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | which is my list tomorrow | 09:45 |
| lbt | and boss just promoted qt | 09:45 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=CE:MW:Shared | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | k | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i get the mails | 09:46 |
| lbt | I *love* the whole "restart and manage process thing" | 09:46 |
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| lbt | imagine having all your scripts running in a gdb :) | 09:46 |
| lbt | it's kinda like that | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully better | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:47 |
| lbt | hehe | 09:47 |
| lbt | pdb then :) | 09:47 |
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| dm8tbr | http://mer.bfst.de/logs/%23mer/%23mer.2011-10-16.log.html - still have to add it to a cron job and figure out how to make it process things to enable indexing etc | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | adding to topic | 09:59 |
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| *** Stskeeps changes topic to "Mer is back! - http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-October/484215.html - http://www.merproject.org | Temporary location for wiki: http://212.110.185.213/wiki/ | Contribution to packages: http://212.110.185.213/wiki/Contribution | Building against Mer in COBS: http://212.110.185.213/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS | This channel is logged, http://mer.bfst.de/logs/%23mer/" | 10:00 | |
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| dm8tbr | bugzilla module is loaded and waiting for bugs.pmc to activate | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:01 |
| dm8tbr | and if we can get a full mail feed it will also do announcements of new bugs, state changes etc | 10:01 |
| dm8tbr | btw: my mind just wandered a bit further. did I already ask if we care about security/vulnerabilities? or is that something the vendor needs to track if they productize and we just use 'close to upstream'? | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | we care about security/vulnerabilities and if you have some thoughts on handling, write them up on wiki | 10:03 |
| dm8tbr | 'not such a screw up like meego' - does that count? | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | a little more elaborate | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | perhapshow other distros handle it | 10:05 |
| dm8tbr | they do have some scripts to import CVE which seemed like not a bad idea, but execution sucked | 10:06 |
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| smoku | will we be signing Mer packages? | 10:21 |
| smoku | since dm8tbr mentioned security | 10:22 |
| smoku | if so, it needs defining who has access to the signing key and signing procedure | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | that's another funny issue - especially considering that Mer is fairly made for being-able-to-build-entire-stack yourself | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | ie, should the security be on the packages in git instead | 10:25 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: I'd take the same approach every other distro does - security patches are indeed patches, and they are dropped as newer releases come along where the fixes are already in | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | in practice, i think that each OBS that does a port will have own signing key, ie, just as an example, signing with "Mer armv7l port build, hosted by Nomovok" | 10:27 |
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| dm8tbr | yay, found the right way to run log conversion. last step add to cron :) | 10:38 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/pastes/2705176/text -ish for single package build check | 11:19 |
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| lbt | it's feeling a bit like a rewrite of osc build | 11:30 |
| lbt | obs | 11:31 |
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| lbt | https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-infrastructure-tools/boss-standard-workflow/blobs/master/participants/do_build_trial.py | 11:33 |
| lbt | https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-infrastructure-tools/boss-standard-workflow/blobs/master/processes/SRCSRV_REQUEST_CREATE.BOSS_handle_SR.pdef#line402 | 11:34 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:37 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: so Mer is going to provide only git repo with .specs? no pre-built .rpms? | 12:07 |
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| cxl000 | Stskeeps I get 404 Not Found for osc ls Mer:fake:armv7h | 12:12 |
| cxl000 | +l | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | cxl000: Mer:fake:Core:armv7l | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | cxl000: Mer:fake:Core:armv7hl | 12:12 |
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| faenil | good sunday afternoon everyone! :) | 13:25 |
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| Stskeeps | afternoon | 13:27 |
| t73 | \o | 13:27 |
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| Stskeeps | http://212.110.185.213/wiki/Governance_draft <- some draft ideas - comments more than welcome | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is technically driven and that contribution creates influence | 14:39 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I wonder where Mer IT fits into this | 14:54 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, good question | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | where do you think it should be? | 14:59 |
| dm8tbr | I can't put my finger on it. at least not in the way of getting things done like certain RE | 15:01 |
| Jucato | MerIT? | 15:02 |
| dm8tbr | Jucato: there are a few things that need to be run, like OBS/fakeOBS, mailing lists, irc bots, ... | 15:03 |
| dm8tbr | BOSS instance | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: technically you can see it as a subproject | 15:03 |
| dm8tbr | OTS instance | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | ie, technical leaders, maintainers, contributors.. | 15:03 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | technically each of the functions like BOSS/etc would belong under different projects | 15:04 |
| dm8tbr | subsubprojects? ;) | 15:04 |
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| Jucato | dm8tbr: more like wondering what the IT stands for. now I'm guessing "Infrastructure Team"? | 15:07 |
| dm8tbr | yes you can read it that way ;) | 15:08 |
| dm8tbr | http://mer.bfst.de/logs/%23mer/latest.log.html - now auto-updates every minute | 15:12 |
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| Stskeeps | cool | 15:16 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: no no, i'm not that crazy (no rpms) | 16:48 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: just that it's not centrally built :) | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | that it can be either from official codelines (ie, published repos) or built in your own obs | 16:48 |
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| vgrade | afternoon | 16:59 |
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| Stskeeps | afternoon vgrade | 17:01 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, hi | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | it can't be true that programmable power strips are so expensive.. | 17:04 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: hm? | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: trying to find a way to control power plug through usb | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: ie, for netbook testing for instance | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | ideally one with a linux driver ;) | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | rs232 is okay too | 17:10 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: there is one, I'm looking for it. it used to be sold by european versions of 'dealextreme' | 17:10 |
| * dm8tbr checks | 17:10 | |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:10 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: 'Silvershield Power Manager Modell: SIS-PMS' | 17:12 |
| dm8tbr | http://sispmctl.sourceforge.net/ | 17:12 |
| dm8tbr | random deal: http://www.amazon.de/Unbekannt-SIS-PM-GEMBIRD-SilverShield/dp/B000K695PA - 30EUR | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | looks quite good | 17:13 |
| dm8tbr | double-check though that it's the USB version before you buy it :) | 17:15 |
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| dm8tbr | btw: the DIY version: printer port and 8 230V relays ;) | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i am not good with electronics :P | 17:16 |
| dm8tbr | and the deluxe version: look into RF remote controlled power sockets, there are linux interfaces to the transmitter | 17:16 |
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| Stskeeps | hrm, is getting sold in a shop in my old uni city | 17:17 |
| dm8tbr | check that polish ebay thing ;) | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | i think as a start we can do testing with vm's and perhaps get some n900's set up | 17:20 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* | 17:21 |
| dm8tbr | I also have BBc4 and an snowball | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:21 |
| Sage | lbt: I think I can fix all of those MW:Shared packages tomorrow and probably some others as well. | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: hrm, so you flash the emmc or how does it work? | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: on snowball | 17:26 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: that's one of the options, need to check if you can usb-boot it too | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:27 |
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| lbt | Sage: I did qt - see the boss.conf file | 18:04 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I use a velleman usb controlled i/o board and 240v relays | 18:05 |
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| lbt | it doesn't class as 'electronics' ... more switches and wiring | 18:06 |
| Sage | lbt: the qt will be removed once we get the mer core updated. Just FYI :) | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | what's missing in the core one we have atm | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 18:16 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: well, the core that we are building against is old AFAIK | 18:16 |
| Sage | i.e., my repos are not building against the fake thing | 18:16 |
| Sage | my repos are compiling against Mer:Trunk:Base and AFAIK that is the old one | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ah | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: makes sense | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i'll work on HW adaptation side for n900 tomorrow | 18:18 |
| Sage | CE:Adaptation:N900 ? | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, getting it to run on top of mer core | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | btw, there's a new qt 4.8 out | 18:19 |
| Sage | ok, cool. I was wondering if we should put packages to CE:Adaptation that are common between the adaptations but are not in mer:core | 18:19 |
| Sage | but not sure if we have any such packages though | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | i think some of the stuff can reasonably go into core | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | like newt | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | possibly linux-firmware | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | or some kind of dummy for it, not sure why kernel needs firmware | 18:21 |
| smoku | any idea what provides xml-common in meego? | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | i'd recommend to simply hack the packages and remove the deps on whatever needs docbook and such, tbh | 18:35 |
| smoku | that was the first idea | 18:35 |
| smoku | but I would like a full gnome development env, and that needs gtk-doc support | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: sgml-common | 18:37 |
| smoku | Sage: how reliable is COBS? maybe I could move my i586 adaptation effort and cordia UX there? we could share the work then | 18:38 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: thx | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: lot more reliable after they ditched the build.meego.com link | 18:38 |
| smoku | do they keep a local snapshot to copy from? | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes, check topic | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | well | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | not of build.meego.com | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | but of mer :P | 18:39 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: and my concern is more in reliable as 'will not shut down tomorrow' | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 18:39 |
| smoku | mer is cool. but I'm doing a lot of copypac from MeeGo:Trunk :) | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:40 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: how did you find this sgml-common? do you have a meego installation to query? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | 18:46 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | "packagename" site:build.meego.com | 18:46 |
| smoku | your google-fu is stronger tham mine :) | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | i once had an idea i could do a phd by just being good at googling | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | of course they wouldn't let me even try.. | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:47 |
| smoku | LOL | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | so, here i am | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | : | 18:52 |
| smoku | the package that provides 'scrollkeeper' dependency is called rarian | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | P | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that too.. | 18:52 |
| smoku | it's a replacement for scrollkeeper | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | the gnome stack is really fucked at some points | 18:52 |
| smoku | i wonder, whether they called it 'rarian' to have librarian.so :) | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | probably | 18:52 |
| smoku | cute :) | 18:53 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: your obs is freakin' fast :D | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | tmpfs++ | 18:59 |
| smoku | how much of RAM do you have there? | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | 12gb | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | i run 4 workers with that | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | i could probably do a lot more with 24g | 19:03 |
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| smoku | nice | 19:09 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps: have you considered building arm* using linaro compiler? | 20:11 |
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| jrayhawk | Stskeeps: Would you be interested in a vserver on a severely underutilized dual E5260 system with 24GB of RAM, and, if so, what distribution would you want on it and how much disk space? | 20:33 |
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| jrayhawk | errr Dual E5620 system | 20:34 |
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| cxl000 | Stskeeps: linux-firmware probaling included to allow compiling bits in. I removed it as a build dep ok. | 21:13 |
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| jrayhawk | I assume you'd want reliable storage for build products and source packages, and several gigabytes worth of tmpfs for unpacking and building? I'm not all that familiar with typical OBS setups. | 21:43 |
| ali1234 | pretty much | 21:54 |
| ali1234 | OBS uses build inside chroot or VM | 21:55 |
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| lbt | actually you don't need reliable storage or persistence - you need raw speed. | 22:08 |
| lbt | You also need trust - a distributed/contributed build environment is very untrustworthy | 22:08 |
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| berndhs | you might also want a commitment to uptime > 5 days a week :) | 22:11 |
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| gprade | hello | 22:24 |
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| smoku | http://cordiahd.org/download/HD/ | 23:43 |
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| berndhs | only 154M, nice | 23:46 |
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| ali1234 | smoku: is that x86? | 23:50 |
| ali1234 | oh nvm, derp | 23:50 |
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