| schmittlauch[m] | lachs0r: No, it's not happening under Android. The suspicion is that the (analog) amplifier is always at 100%, always amplifying some noise as well. Volume is then just controlled digitally by scaling the amplitude of PCM audio. | 00:17 |
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| schmittlauch[m] | r0kk3rz (@r0kk3rz:matrix.org), pingutux: It's a bit more difficult than that: The best messagin experience would be integrating XMPP via telepathy into the main messaging app. But that one is closed. | 00:20 |
| schmittlauch[m] | The typical argument "just improve the middleware" also doesn't count here: While there is much to do in the backend, some functions are already present there and just lack integration into the proprietary frontend (example: accept contact requests, add contacts) | 00:20 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure someone somewhere has made a qml xmpp program | 00:21 |
| schmittlauch[m] | the constant lack of caring from Jolla is still very demotivating | 00:21 |
| r0kk3rz | its going to be waaaay down their list of priorities | 00:22 |
| r0kk3rz | since its not really an enterprisy one | 00:22 |
| r0kk3rz | and most users want shit like whatsapp | 00:22 |
| schmittlauch[m] | then open it up! | 00:22 |
| tadzik | that's giving away assets :P | 00:22 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah they wont | 00:22 |
| schmittlauch[m] | assets that are broken in many ways 'cause they cannot maintain them, wonderful | 00:23 |
| schmittlauch[m] | > someone somewhere has made a qml xmpp program | 00:24 |
| schmittlauch[m] | all the ones I'm aware of are programs on their own, not integrated into the messaging framework | 00:24 |
| r0kk3rz | yes thats what im talking about | 00:24 |
| r0kk3rz | you cant do integrated stuff because of the reasons you just listed | 00:24 |
| *** Snoras_ is now known as Snoras | 11:10 | |
| pingutux[m] | r0kk3rz: I do not want shit like whatsapp. I am looking for a mostly secure, open source, decentral instant messenger like conversations with xmpp jabber. Matrix is 2. choice - threma, wire, signal, telegram - nothing for me to think about. If anybody could port gajim to SFOS I would be happy. Also a profanity would maybe be easy and good too. I am not a developer or programmer, but a Sailfish user since 2014. SFOS | 21:42 |
| pingutux[m] | is my edc cellphone - I love it and do not miss something, except xmpp/jabber instant messenger... | 21:42 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i think you're in the minority there though | 22:26 |
| pingutux[m] | Is the minority something to shame for? I am allways in the minority - thats why I use SFOS...nobody around me uses that! I also use ubuntu touch - nobody around me uses ubuntu touch - no one around me does understand me in using different things (please excuse my english it is not so good and I am old) | 23:06 |
| tadzik | you're lucky then: you're in the community for minorities :) | 23:11 |
| pingutux[m] | Sailfis is an opportunity to make things more privat without tracking - I hope and believe. And I want to get my kids and there kids to think about not to use google android - zuckerberg damn stuff and also iPhone stuff not to use. a fight that is not to win... | 23:14 |
| pingutux[m] | tadzik: THANKS I am glad to be here!!!! | 23:14 |
| r0kk3rz | i am not shaming anyone, it appears you misunderstoof the point i was making | 23:18 |
| pingutux[m] | I do not want to misunderstand you. what do you mean? | 23:20 |
| pingutux[m] | r0kk3rz: Am I allowed to ask you which instant mesenger do you use and why? | 23:25 |
| pingutux[m] | r0kk3rz: You do not need to answer. | 23:26 |
| pingutux[m] | tadzik: Do you have an idea for my problem about xmpp? I use conversations as android app on F-Droid in Sailfish, works fine! But I really want to get far away from android and I am looking for native SFOS Apps. xmpp built in is nothing!!! | 23:36 |
| r0kk3rz | im not sure there is a native alternative | 23:42 |
| pketo | being in minority does not work that well with messaging services :) | 23:42 |
| pingutux[m] | r0kk3rz: lets talk about the misunderstanding - my english is worse! I want to be one off yours. And I am not to much in to computing. | 23:43 |
| r0kk3rz | https://openrepos.net/content/schorsch/shmoose | 23:43 |
| r0kk3rz | this could be interesting to try | 23:43 |
| pingutux[m] | Thanks but I tried not worth it! | 23:45 |
| r0kk3rz | then you're out of luck | 23:48 |
| pingutux[m] | I know | 23:48 |
| pingutux[m] | how do you comunitate with friends? | 23:49 |
| r0kk3rz | in a myriad of ways | 23:50 |
| r0kk3rz | mostly fb messenger | 23:50 |
| pingutux[m] | face book messenger? WHY? sorry I wish you all the best but Facebook for me it is a no go! | 23:53 |
| r0kk3rz | because thats what people use | 23:55 |
| pingutux[m] | Do what ever you want but think about privacy | 23:55 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, i shouldnt have said anything :P | 23:55 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont need a lecture about the merits of facebook | 23:56 |
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