| Smar | mal: I’ve taken one or two pictures | 09:26 |
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| svuorela | hmm.. osmand wont do internet on jollaxa | 10:09 |
| Smar | some android programs seems to only work with wlan | 10:11 |
| Smar | this is totally unrelated, but these strict mode warnings are still so unclear :X | 10:28 |
| tadzik | "currently we are not planning to deploy this solution (android 8) backwards to older Xperia X models" | 11:25 |
| tadzik | well that sends an interesting message | 11:25 |
| tadzik | "buy XA2, but when something newer comes out you will become the second-class user" | 11:26 |
| Smar | I thought android support is more of complementary piece and not the whole point of the os.... | 11:27 |
| Smar | anyway, give them infinite resources and you can get whatever you want :P | 11:27 |
| tadzik | well, it'd be fine with a completely android-free OS, but that would require competent native counterparts | 11:30 |
| tadzik | to absolutely basic things, like a web browser | 11:30 |
| r0kk3rz | tadzik: at fosdem? | 11:31 |
| tadzik | and Jolla itself clearly doesn't treat it as a mere addon, since it's decomissioning native solutions like Maps in favour of basically-supporting the android alternatives | 11:31 |
| tadzik | r0kk3rz: nah, skipped it this year :/ | 11:31 |
| tadzik | but yeah, I get the resources point, fair enough | 11:31 |
| r0kk3rz | tadzik: lame, maybe next time! | 11:32 |
| tadzik | I kept thinking that I can convince one of my clients to send me so I don't have to spend money myself | 11:33 |
| tadzik | see how that went, heh | 11:33 |
| Smar | mal, attah: I think I found out the reason why it failed for me: Google account’s sync of contacts | 12:03 |
| Smar | the jolla integration to google I mean | 12:03 |
| r0kk3rz | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ17tWlxCiA <-- FOSDEM community meeting live stream | 13:01 |
| mal | Smar: interesting | 13:39 |
| mal | Smar: does disabling that help with the issue? | 13:45 |
| mal | Smar: do you have a lot of contacts? | 14:02 |
| attah | Smar: mhmm, what part of it is problematic? | 14:05 |
| mal | attah: some sync could cause the memory issue | 14:07 |
| attah | ...like if a sync starts, or does it request a sync, or what? | 14:08 |
| mal | well it will always sync at startup | 14:09 |
| attah | so what do i do? disable the google account? | 14:10 |
| attah | it's not like i have a whole lot of contacts there anyway | 14:10 |
| mal | attah: did you test the picture moving yet? | 14:11 |
| attah | ah, right.. will try now | 14:12 |
| mal | I find it unlikely contacts could cause that | 14:12 |
| mal | because those should be small even if there are a lot of those | 14:12 |
| attah | well, so should pictures... as i guess it only really tracks information about that they *exist*, no? | 14:13 |
| mal | it should yes | 14:14 |
| attah | okay, now i'm down to the stock photos, and a dozen downloads | 14:15 |
| attah | Im not even getting the apps to show up in their prior unusable state... but that's the same as earlier today... -> reboot | 14:17 |
| attah | F-Droid launched but is empty... and now button animations seized | 14:20 |
| attah | I should try another app | 14:20 |
| attah | When switching app it managed to emit a notification... and then Aliendalvik crashed | 14:21 |
| attah | or maybe not | 14:21 |
| attah | Not having any luck with the installs now | 14:33 |
| mal | so still the same memory issues in logcat? | 14:37 |
| attah | no | 14:37 |
| mal | what then? | 14:38 |
| attah | a whole lot of nothing... i'll paste you the last run | 14:38 |
| mal | anything in journalctl about alien or apkd? | 14:39 |
| attah | https://pastebin.com/fiteGwFz | 14:40 |
| attah | That's an installation not really happening | 14:41 |
| Tegu | blah, this swipe from corner to close app is a bit annoying at times. again I accidentally closed an app | 14:44 |
| attah | I thought the annoyance almost always was the other way around.. getting that pesky curtain menu instead of closing :) | 14:44 |
| attah | A crash: https://pastebin.com/P23Mib8X | 14:48 |
| attah | the latter part at least, i could have possibly included an intentional restart... but i think it starts at that start | 14:49 |
| mal | logcat is more useful | 14:52 |
| mal | journal only tell alien is crashing | 14:53 |
| attah | yeah... hmm, current log cat doesn't cover a crash | 14:56 |
| mal | just leave it on and it should | 14:58 |
| attah | tee mangles stuff so i more'd the file i was saving to | 15:01 |
| attah | thought that messed up the pipe, but it was a crash... however i managed to lose the file before i realized | 15:02 |
| attah | But from the crap output i can see a OOM | 15:02 |
| attah | https://pastebin.com/Kx93csny | 15:05 |
| attah | There, got one | 15:05 |
| mal | the question is why does that happen to you and not others | 15:18 |
| attah | Indeed | 15:18 |
| attah | I should probably just reflash and hope it goes away | 15:21 |
| attah | I do have some extra and very lightly modified gstreamer packages, and a utility or two from mer-tool | 15:22 |
| attah | but that's about it /methinks | 15:22 |
| mal | hmm, odd why those would affect it, unless those have prevented some packages from updating | 15:25 |
| attah | I don't think they would... but that's all the even remotely "poweruser" stuff that i've done really | 15:27 |
| Smar | mal: yes, I have a lot of contacts | 15:39 |
| Smar | mal: and yes, it works | 15:39 |
| Smar | (now) | 15:39 |
| Smar | anyway, I removed whole google account syncronization; the logcat showed something related to contacts, so I suppose for me it was related to that | 15:40 |
| Smar | if there is something specific someone wants to me to test, I can do it (probably tomorrow though) | 15:41 |
| mal | Smar: good to hear, still very odd issue | 15:41 |
| Smar | yes | 15:42 |
| mal | Smar: would be interesting to know if you can now add the sync back and will it start failing again or is the issue only during initial sync | 15:42 |
| Smar | just a theory, but it may start after rebooting alien dalvik, not instantly after adding google account | 15:43 |
| Smar | but I can test it tomorrow | 15:43 |
| mal | thanks | 15:45 |
| Smar | no problems | 15:45 |
| mal | it shouldn't be related to google account sync but instead to amount of contacts | 15:45 |
| Smar | or some special contact, bad character or something like that | 15:47 |
| Smar | like you said, contacts itself shouldn’t take much memory after all | 15:48 |
| mal | yes, those should be small unless something would be leaking memory or something | 15:49 |
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