| sebsebseb | hi | 11:03 |
|---|---|---|
| sebsebseb | anyone | 11:03 |
| sebsebseb | around | 11:03 |
| sebsebseb | ? | 11:04 |
| kid | o/ | 11:20 |
| kid | Just ask and hang around for a response :) | 11:21 |
| sebsebseb | whos got the xa2 | 11:43 |
| sebsebseb | and really only still a trial of sailifsh x for it still ? no full | 11:43 |
| sebsebseb | kid: are you really a kid, how old :D | 11:43 |
| kid | sebsebseb: it's my initials, not an indication of my age :-P | 11:46 |
| Oni^ | just the mental age? | 12:00 |
| coderus | sebsebseb: full X license for XA2 soon | 12:02 |
| sebsebseb | roboro: when and do you have one ? the xa2 ? | 12:24 |
| sebsebseb | also why din't it have a full to begin with | 12:24 |
| coderus | do you know what the difference between full and trial? | 12:25 |
| sebsebseb | roboro: kind of | 12:25 |
| sebsebseb | no android support in trial | 12:25 |
| sebsebseb | app support | 12:25 |
| sebsebseb | no ms exchange etc, what it says on site | 12:25 |
| sebsebseb | trial is just some sucky cut down version it seems, like the old propritary sofware model | 12:26 |
| sebsebseb | free trial / shareware | 12:26 |
| sebsebseb | pay and get access to more features | 12:26 |
| sebsebseb | put a code in | 12:26 |
| sebsebseb | I know Salifish is good, but honestly, Jolla really is doing things like propritary software ! | 12:26 |
| sebsebseb | and I know the GUI is actsually closd source software :D | 12:27 |
| coderus | trial - no paid 3rd party components. full sfos you can use with no limitations, update to new version with no problems. when licensing issues will be solved, you will be able to buy it and install paid components on your device.s | 12:27 |
| sebsebseb | but I meant with the releases | 12:27 |
| sebsebseb | what are the licensing issues ? | 12:27 |
| coderus | who knows, big companies like licenses | 12:28 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | 12:28 |
| sebsebseb | roboro: I will get a XA2 soon on another deal, getting a free PS4 even, however since I already got a sim and more recently a phone too from that network, I will have to get another sim | 12:29 |
| sebsebseb | but got lots of smartp hones anyway | 12:29 |
| coderus | sebsebseb: why you highlight roboro? | 12:30 |
| sebsebseb | whoops | 12:30 |
| sebsebseb | can't see, properly, bad light etcv | 12:30 |
| sebsebseb | also r and c is close on the keyboard :D | 12:31 |
| sebsebseb | seems too me though thaat the trial will be a bit sucky | 12:31 |
| coderus | why? | 12:32 |
| coderus | no exchange, xt9, aliendalvik. | 12:32 |
| * sebsebseb may actsaully re flash the Sony Xperai X finally, this weekend, still on Android for certain reasons, after all this time | 12:32 | |
| sebsebseb | I don't care about exchange, but Android app support is nice | 12:32 |
| sebsebseb | also I assume like the X, the camera won't work as well on the XA2 once Salifish is on it ? | 12:32 |
| coderus | if you need paid stuff - you buy license. this is the only difference between trial and full. | 12:33 |
| sebsebseb | its the propritary software approach though, selling android support and such | 12:33 |
| sebsebseb | things that could have been in for free, like with the original salifish 1 etc | 12:33 |
| coderus | licenses are only for non-jolla devices | 12:34 |
| sebsebseb | coderus: thing is now, since they can't sell hardware anymore that they made | 12:34 |
| sebsebseb | they got to do something like this | 12:34 |
| coderus | when you buy jolla phone you already paid for all licenses | 12:34 |
| sebsebseb | or Jolla geos bank rupt again | 12:34 |
| coderus | jolla not producing devices anymore | 12:34 |
| sebsebseb | yes what I just put | 12:34 |
| sebsebseb | so they do this instead | 12:34 |
| coderus | so yoou have to pay for stuff jolla not developing itself | 12:35 |
| coderus | because it costs money! | 12:35 |
| sebsebseb | android support is something else though i think | 12:35 |
| r0kk3rz | they have a decent revenue stream coming from russia these days | 12:35 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: yeah maybe so, but yet no one has got their full tablet refund yet | 12:35 |
| sebsebseb | I was asking sledges about that in person the other week :D | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah... they should really finish that off | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | once and for all | 12:36 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: sounded like, when they get spare money | 12:36 |
| sebsebseb | they spend it on other things like getting a sailfish 3 out | 12:36 |
| coderus | like paying salaries for peoples? :D | 12:37 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: then since the jolla tablet mess up, some of us crowd funded a Yougota tablet, that now won't get it seems, so lost money on that too | 12:38 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: I have lost on three campaigins, assuming I don't get this vega pluss too, and issues with one, and yeah did the yougota | 12:38 |
| sebsebseb | but others been ok | 12:39 |
| sebsebseb | done a few | 12:39 |
| sebsebseb | coderus well yeah it's stuff like that too, so sledges and so on can do their thing, and get paid for it | 12:39 |
| sebsebseb | but regardless of all that, the general appraoche, is still like well the classic style of propritary software, with trial ware and so on | 12:40 |
| coderus | oh, enough for me, bye | 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | coderus: I understand the reasons why, but the approahce is like the 90's | 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | where as take something like ubports for example, totally open source and volunteer, :) | 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | forked from something that was commercial eevn | 12:41 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: yes and then I read that Salifish X owners with it for Xperia X, should get some kind of discount on it for the XA2, but then hang on a min, they owe lots of these people money still, since the tablet :D | 12:43 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe like before, use the owed money on the thing for that, for that as well some of it | 12:43 |
| r0kk3rz | its much easier to give people discounts than to give them money i think | 13:00 |
| tbr | especially discounts on fictional MSRP… | 13:10 |
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