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| tiwake | does sailfishOS have disk encryption yet? | 00:18 |
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| tiwake | https://together.jolla.com/question/2158/optional-encryption-of-the-device/ | 00:31 |
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| pdanek | Test test | 06:40 |
| pdanek | Wohooo | 06:40 |
| pdanek | Hello people | 06:40 |
| pdanek | How is life? | 06:40 |
| chriadam_ | life is ok | 06:44 |
| chriadam_ | how are you, pdanek? | 06:44 |
| pdanek | It's "ok" as you said | 06:47 |
| pdanek | Nothing extraordinary | 06:47 |
| pdanek | :D | 06:47 |
| chriadam_ | indeed :-) | 06:47 |
| pdanek | Question to everyone | 06:47 |
| pdanek | What was the best phone you ever had? | 06:48 |
| pdanek | I mean relative to the year you had it. | 06:48 |
| pdanek | Best at the time. | 06:48 |
| chriadam_ | what do you mean by "best"? highest build quality, best usability, best screen, best camera, open source (if that matters to you), etc etc are all separate and mostly orthogonal axes of measurement. | 06:52 |
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| pdanek | chriadam: subjectively best for you | 07:18 |
| pdanek | Not best compared to the market at the time | 07:18 |
| pdanek | Basically period of life when you thought, oh yeah, this phone is amazing, I want it forever | 07:18 |
| pdanek | For me it was definitely Nokia N900 | 07:18 |
| pdanek | In fact when it aged, I sold it on ebay and I bought Android... After 1 week I returned the Android phone and bought another N900 on ebay | 07:19 |
| pdanek | Then eventually I jumped to Jolla. Which was just to fill the gap, but not extraordinary like N900 | 07:20 |
| Nicd- | hehe, N900 was the best phone I had at that time and from it I went to the worst phone I've ever had (Lumia 900) | 07:20 |
| pdanek | :) | 07:20 |
| pdanek | Maybe I should buy one again | 07:22 |
| pdanek | When I still can | 07:22 |
| pdanek | In some nice condition | 07:22 |
| pdanek | And keep it as memory on shelf | 07:22 |
| pdanek | In 10 years it might be worth triple pricr | 07:23 |
| pdanek | I have this habbit of being minimalist, so of course every phone I don't use I sell, even for bargain | 07:23 |
| pdanek | I might make an exception | 07:23 |
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| phlixi | ill bet n900 is worth nothing at all in 10 years | 07:24 |
| phlixi | lieke, literally nothing. not worth shipping anywhere | 07:24 |
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| jankratochvil | pdanek: N9000i | 07:27 |
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| pdanek | jankratochvil: ahoj, are n9000? You mean n9000 or n9210i? | 07:29 |
| pdanek | are you sure* | 07:29 |
| Nicd- | a dude I know works at a university and they might or might not have a shelf full of unopened N900 phones just lying around :P | 07:29 |
| jankratochvil | pdanek: I mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_9000_Communicator . Later Communicators started lacking compared to the time of market. N9110 was also unrealiable etc. YMMV | 07:30 |
| pdanek | Ok, the i confused me :) | 07:30 |
| Nicd- | my mom used to have a 9210 communicator, it was so cool | 07:31 |
| jankratochvil | 9000 and 9000i were mostly the same, I had 9000i. | 07:31 |
| phlixi | chriadam_ i guess, you take each vektor, and say they lenght is >1 for good, longer for better, and shorter than 1 for bad... you multiply all of them and take the one with the longest vektor, then you are able to answer pdaneks question adequately ;) | 07:31 |
| chriadam_ | heh | 07:34 |
| chriadam_ | it's true. for me, it's the original Jolla phone, but yes definitely super subjective. | 07:35 |
| pdanek | Is the app store for Nokia N900 still online? | 07:39 |
| pdanek | But I doubt it is :D | 07:39 |
| pdanek | Any good alternative with mirror of all apps that existed? | 07:40 |
| phlixi | i am not into cross product calculations that early in the morning, therefore its undecided from n900, n9 and jp1301 :D once xperia gets some bugs fixed, it might join, or maybe win :-) for now its unusable for me | 07:40 |
| phlixi | pdanek search tmo for that | 07:41 |
| phlixi | i havent looked, but i guess they use openrepos | 07:41 |
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| Nicd- | I have to say my current Android phone is the best phone since N900 at least. and probably the most useful phone I've ever had | 07:42 |
| Nicd- | N900 was exciting due to the hacking I could do. but it was not stable or featureful. same for Jolla | 07:43 |
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| kimmoli | original jolla was fun, with the i2c interface, but oneplusX takes the win with working otg | 09:02 |
| kimmoli | (and sailfish on it) | 09:02 |
| Bysmyyr | was there working otg in xperiaX? | 09:04 |
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| kimmoli | afaik it works | 09:05 |
| kimmoli | at least mass storage, serial ports might need some kernel modules. i dont have xperiaX my self | 09:06 |
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| coderus | inoi have otg as well | 09:09 |
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| Tomin | my Jolla likes to reboot, it has the battery fix thingy (from service about two years ago), but now it reboots daily. I wonder if it could be fixed or should I consider Xperia X | 11:06 |
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| Tomin | (actually it could be three years since the warranty repair, I got my Jolla on spring 2014) | 11:07 |
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| pdanek | The only reason why i2c on Jolla was ever interesting to me was to attach keyboard | 11:39 |
| pdanek | And the keyboards made were cool, but not usable for daily use | 11:40 |
| pdanek | So N900 keyboard still best | 11:40 |
| pdanek | Sadly I didn't have chance to try N950, was it hardware build/keyboard much better than N90? | 11:40 |
| pdanek | N900* | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | n950 keyboard seemed very nice | 11:42 |
| pdanek | N900 sales were good weren't they? | 11:44 |
| pdanek | So do you guys know why nokia never released n950? | 11:44 |
| pdanek | Why only n9? | 11:45 |
| r0kk3rz | they only half heartedly released the n9... | 11:45 |
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| kid | N900 best keyboard and terminal combination. imho. | 11:50 |
| tadzik | were they good though? | 11:50 |
| tadzik | (n900 sales) | 11:50 |
| tadzik | perhaps good but not satisfactory | 11:51 |
| jankratochvil | Why N900 and not Jolla+TOHKBD? I have switched now to latter and - OK, maybe N900 keyboard was a bit better but otherwise Jolla+TOHKBD is a significantly more usable combo nowadays. | 11:51 |
| pdanek | jankratochvil: I had Jolla + tohkbd and also tohkbd2 | 11:54 |
| * jankratochvil means TOHKBD2. | 11:54 | |
| pdanek | But it just was too bulky, not polished enough and keyboard not nearly as good as n900 | 11:54 |
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| Nicd- | jankratochvil: tohkbd never worked well enough | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | even though it was a good attempt | 11:57 |
| jankratochvil | Nicd-: I have switched to it now from N900 and I am satisfied. But I still need to have a real Android with it (better camera, few more essential apps incompatible with Jolla, better GPS). Not sure which phone I should call primary but I would say Android was primary with N900 but now rather Jolla is the primary one. | 12:00 |
| Jope | what's the diff between tohkbd and tohkbd2 | 12:00 |
| Nicd- | tohkbd was a limited proto | 12:00 |
| Nicd- | tohkbd2 is the "tohkbd" everyone talks about | 12:00 |
| Jope | ah ok | 12:01 |
| jankratochvil | In some way TOHKBD2 is even better than N900 as they keys are larger + there is more of them (incl. numerical row). | 12:01 |
| * jankratochvil forgot about a better display of the Android phone, 540×960 is not competitive. | 12:02 | |
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| TMavica | Anyone ever have the phone calling problem in sailfishx? | 12:25 |
| TMavica | I mean no sound heard when dialing or receiver voice | 12:26 |
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| Tomin | hmmh, battery resistance test failed with beta = -3.369 | 14:27 |
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| Tomin | Jolla doesn't sell spare batteries (for original Jolla), right? | 14:58 |
| kid | They've only had one batch out for that. Which was sold out a long time ago. | 14:59 |
| * inte[m] bought one on ebay quite some time ago | 15:00 | |
| inte[m] | was ok | 15:00 |
| kid | Som tips for unoff. batts. van be foud in tjc | 15:00 |
| Tomin | yes, I know they did for a little while, I'm just checking, because I hate to throw away working devices | 15:00 |
| Tomin | Polarcell seems to be the best option, although Jolla doesn't seem to approve | 15:00 |
| inte[m] | Tomin why do you want to throw away your phone? | 15:01 |
| inte[m] | Because the battery is broken!? | 15:01 |
| Tomin | I don't want to, it keeps rebooting and battery resistance test fails (cleaning the contacts or adding more support doesn't help) | 15:01 |
| inte[m] | does it also reboot when connected to power? | 15:01 |
| Tomin | I don't think so, I mean it reboots somewhat randomly when using it and I don't remember it ever rebooting when charging, but then again I rarely use it while charging | 15:02 |
| inte[m] | i remember having had this issue with my jolla one but i guess i solved it by eather replacing the battery or putting a little sheet of paper on between battery and case. | 15:02 |
| inte[m] | or both | 15:02 |
| inte[m] | this is a know issue | 15:03 |
| Tomin | my phone has that kind of fix made by warranty service about three years ago | 15:03 |
| inte[m] | check tjc for that | 15:03 |
| Tomin | I know, I've searched through TJC and what I've found is that I can't get offical battery (just checking here if there is more current information) so 3rd party battery is the only thing left for me to do (besides getting a new phone) | 15:04 |
| inte[m] | sure but those are fine | 15:05 |
| r0kk3rz | Tomin: push the pins on the phone a few times | 15:07 |
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| Tomin | r0kk3rz: doesn't seem to help, at least the resistance test still fails, now with beta = -0.404 | 15:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | whats the good value for that? | 15:19 |
| Tomin | > -0.3 | 15:19 |
| inte[m] | beta? | 15:19 |
| Tomin | yes | 15:19 |
| r0kk3rz | thats a lot closer to spec than -3 :) | 15:20 |
| inte[m] | ah, beta | 15:20 |
| inte[m] | ;) | 15:20 |
| Tomin | good values beta > -0.3 and sigma^2 > 0.85 | 15:20 |
| Tomin | mine: beta = -0.404, alpha = 4.068 and sigma^2 = 0.970 | 15:20 |
| r0kk3rz | that might be ok, im sure you'll notice if you're still getting reboots all the time | 15:21 |
| Tomin | earlier today it was better than what it is now so I'm pretty sure I'll get another reboot at some point. probably tomorrow (they seem to occur at least every few days if not more often) | 15:24 |
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| phlixi_o | Tomin: a lot of the time the reboot problem is fixed very easily by gently pushing and releasing the 3 springs a few times | 15:54 |
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| Tomin | phlixi_o: r0kk3rz told me to do that already, I tried it and now I'm waiting for it to reboot at some point (I'm not convinced that it will help, but we'll see) | 16:00 |
| r0kk3rz | Tomin: presumably you charge the phone over night? so its worse on lower charge? | 16:02 |
| phlixi_o | if it is the problem that is solved with the "rocking the springs trick", then its pretty plausible... the contact from board to battery is bad, due to oxidation on the hinges. by moving the contacts, the oxidation gets removed, => resistance lowers, current goes up. | 16:05 |
| Tomin | r0kk3rz: I think it is, but also the percentage is not very reliable. Sometimes it can be 80% and after reboot it's more like 50% or it might go to from 50% to <10% (just examples from my head, I don't keep record what it really is). I usually charge my phone once the battery is less than 50% (read: when I notice it is <50%) which is something like every other night maybe (I don't keep a record of charging) | 16:05 |
| r0kk3rz | Tomin: that sounds like the contacts problem for sure, especially the suddenly dropping to zero part :) | 16:06 |
| r0kk3rz | anyway see how you go | 16:06 |
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