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| ender| | ...so, when will the Sailfish X sales start? | 09:39 |
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| raa700 | soon(tm) | 09:39 |
| phlixi_o | my crystal ball told me we will hear something preeeetyyyy soon (like, this week, proably today) | 09:44 |
| phlixi_o | given jolla just pushed 2.1.3 and late night activity on the twitter, makes me think they are sprinting | 09:46 |
| phlixi_o | i dont think they would be sprinting into late night, if its not realistic to launch as planned. then a blog post "another delay" would be enough, then it does not matter if its 1 or 2 weeks.. and you dont need to work at night for such blog post | 09:47 |
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| inte[m] | Hello again:) | 12:01 |
| inte[m] | Its been a while | 12:01 |
| inte[m] | Getting interested in sf x | 12:01 |
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| inte[m] | However, just wanted to ask: I totally spoiled my current jolla phone. I tried to upgrade to the most recent release but the upgrade progress was terminated due to lack of free space | 12:04 |
| inte[m] | I cannot start ir again even though i keep getting the update available message | 12:04 |
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| inte[m] | I tried to manually trigger the update through pkcon update and it installed some packages | 12:06 |
| inte[m] | However, the message did not disappear and my camera stopped working | 12:06 |
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| inte[m] | So, its totally messed up and i dare i will have to go through factory reset | 12:06 |
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| inte[m] | Or is there any other way to trigger the update now after I made some space? | 12:07 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah dont ever do pkcon update | 12:07 |
| r0kk3rz | ever | 12:07 |
| inte[m] | Hehe | 12:07 |
| inte[m] | Hehe | 12:07 |
| inte[m] | Too late, unfortunately | 12:07 |
| inte[m] | Is pkcon update the same as developer updates in settings? | 12:08 |
| r0kk3rz | no | 12:08 |
| inte[m] | Just curious | 12:08 |
| inte[m] | Oh ok | 12:08 |
| inte[m] | Anyways, i will not try that again for sure :) | 12:09 |
| *** Malinux- is now known as Malinux | 12:10 | |
| inte[m] | So, is there any possibility to initiate the firmware upgrade manually or is a factory reset my only way out of this mess? :) | 12:10 |
| r0kk3rz | you can try `ssu re 2.1.2.3` and `version --dup` | 12:12 |
| r0kk3rz | but do a backup first | 12:12 |
| inte[m] | Sure thx | 12:12 |
| inte[m] | Will try that @home | 12:12 |
| inte[m] | Don't want to run out of power to complete the mess ;) | 12:13 |
| jakibaki | inte[m]: and free up some space. If it failed before because of that it could fail again. | 12:13 |
| inte[m] | Jakibaki i removed the vids already, should be fine now | 12:13 |
| inte[m] | Btw i downloaded the matriksi matrix client from a dropbox link i found somewhere in the depth of the jolla forums | 12:15 |
| inte[m] | However, the github page is empty | 12:16 |
| inte[m] | Is this project also dead and are there other matrix-clients applicable at present? | 12:16 |
| inte[m] | Doesn't work too bad though | 12:17 |
| r0kk3rz | i didnt think we had a matrix client | 12:17 |
| inte[m] | Well there used to be tensor which is also linked from matrix.org but the repo shows no activity in the recent year(s) | 12:19 |
| inte[m] | And matriksi appears to share some code | 12:19 |
| r0kk3rz | got a link to it? | 12:20 |
| inte[m] | And least, this is what they say | 12:20 |
| r0kk3rz | i did some work on tensor for sfos, but i got over matrix | 12:20 |
| inte[m] | Sorry not current but ypu could easliy google it | 12:20 |
| inte[m] | Currently in the ubahn :) | 12:21 |
| r0kk3rz | i tried, google came up with nothing | 12:21 |
| inte[m] | Woops wait | 12:21 |
| r0kk3rz | at least on the english intrawebs | 12:22 |
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| inte[m] | https://together.jolla.com/question/127769/tensor-matrix-client/ | 12:23 |
| inte[m] | The links are hidden in the comments | 12:23 |
| inte[m] | Ill be afk for an hour or so | 12:24 |
| r0kk3rz | ah just binaries | 12:24 |
| inte[m] | Yes and the matriksi repo is empty | 12:24 |
| inte[m] | https://github.com/anttsam/matriksi | 12:25 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, thats no use then | 12:28 |
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| inte[m] | Well but still the client is not too bad | 13:11 |
| inte[m] | Dont know about security though | 13:12 |
| inte[m] | Maybe the whole world can read my messages now:) | 13:13 |
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| inte[m] | Ok tried the dup command from above but it fails due to an undefined symbol | 13:17 |
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| phlixi_o | i thought matrix is flat broke anyways? | 13:32 |
| inte[m] | the release notes of the upcoming konversation client (KDE irc) pointed me to matrix since it will support matrix then | 13:33 |
| inte[m] | i have now installed it and while somewhat similar to slack i really tend to like it | 13:33 |
| inte[m] | even the client (riot) is similar to the slack client since both are built with electron :) | 13:35 |
| inte[m] | I only wonder if it is feasible to run electron apps on sailfishos as well | 13:36 |
| inte[m] | ist webkit/nodejs so probably it can be done | 13:36 |
| inte[m] | it's | 13:36 |
| phlixi_o | https://matrix.org/blog/2017/07/07/a-call-to-arms-supporting-matrix/ | 13:40 |
| phlixi_o | on a first naive thought: probably makes more sense to use qt and webview, which is kind of the same as electron etc | 13:41 |
| phlixi_o | that does not help to run existing electron apps, i understand that :-) | 13:42 |
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| inte[m] | jey, i agree | 13:46 |
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| * cb400f looks around for anyone with inside infoz on sailfish X download release | 14:00 | |
| r0kk3rz | whats that? never heard of it | 14:01 |
| cb400f | :-) | 14:01 |
| cb400f | I guess if no e-mail was received during normal working hrs the release won't happen today :-( | 14:02 |
| jakibaki | cb400f they seem to be updating shop.jolla.com right now :) (a credential pop-up comes now, it was the same way when they prepared the pre-order) | 14:05 |
| cb400f | ah, maybe they were just waiting until I got home from workz ;-) | 14:06 |
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| ender| | ...nice, shop.jolla.com is now asking for username/password before loading | 14:07 |
| pketo | we are doing some testing, stay tuned | 14:07 |
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| * ender| mashes F5 furiously | 14:11 | |
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| r0kk3rz | ender|: play nice, let them work :P | 14:12 |
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| ggabriel | well done jolla peeps for delivering on time ;) | 15:32 |
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| phlixi_o | https://shop.jolla.com/ is accessable again | 15:33 |
| phlixi_o | (without credentials) | 15:33 |
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| n9mx | "At this moment there are no payment methods available for this combination of amount, currency and account." | 15:38 |
| friese | humm, my credit card seems to get accepted by jolla, however i get redirected to my bank telling my i need to enable "verified by visa" which takes a couple tdays - oh yay, more waiting :-) | 15:46 |
| friese | unfortunately credit card seems to be the only payment option ??? | 15:46 |
| ggabriel | friese: what you are describing is pretty standard - vbv in my case takes minutes... but you should take that up with visa/your bank | 15:47 |
| friese | yep, my bank is offering registration for that, however that's gonna take a few days... | 15:48 |
| friese | i don't use my credit card very often - so maybe i should have prepared better (hoped that paypal would be available though, at least it always was before...) | 15:49 |
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| Coolgeek | https://blog.jolla.com/purchase-download-install-sailfish-x-now/ | 15:55 |
| pketo | n9mx: may I ask where are you from? | 15:55 |
| phlixi_o | n9mx on other channels i read no paypal, have you tried credid card? | 15:55 |
| pketo | that affects the available payment methods, and I just want to make sure we haven't missed something, as naturally is quite difficult for us to test from all locations :) | 15:57 |
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| n9mx | phlixi_o: "Thank you for your purchase" | 16:00 |
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| phlixi_o | that was easy :-) | 16:01 |
| friese | pketo: for Germany at least, American Express, Mastercard or Visa are the only supported options, so no paypal? | 16:02 |
| pketo | no paypal | 16:02 |
| pketo | in germany there should be some e-bank option available | 16:03 |
| friese | e-bank? don't have that either i think (if it's sofortüberweisung or sth. like that). Well, unfortunately I'd have to wait till my Bank enables my verified by visa then, which should take 1 or 2 days, well I guess i should've checked beforehand.... | 16:05 |
| ggabriel | friese: look at the bright side: there are no stock restrictions here | 16:09 |
| sailfishmods | Credit cards are used in Germany, but many do not have any. Is not the standard pay | 16:10 |
| friese | yup, that's true :) | 16:10 |
| phlixi_o | google image search suggests to me that "ebanking.com" (which gives nginx error to me) might be internationalisation of sofort-überweisung (which is to avoid at all costs) | 16:10 |
| friese | i think i got my credit card only for some kickstarter project which didn't have any other payment option and basically haven't used it since... | 16:11 |
| phlixi_o | iirc "sofort überweisung" is kinda professional fishing | 16:11 |
| friese | exactly - though they seem to (unfortunately) have good marketing | 16:12 |
| phlixi_o | its absurd... | 16:12 |
| phlixi_o | and even some absurd court rulings | 16:13 |
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| friese | humm, that's interesting. I've even gotten a few cents of interest on my credit card since the kickstart project i funded failed and i got my money back - seems tohe investment in pebble payed of after all ;) | 16:14 |
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| friese | well, i'm afk for now, checking back alter to hear the first reports of successfull installs hopefully :) | 16:16 |
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| phlixi_o | friese: https://teleirc.mikaela.info//file_873.jpg | 16:18 |
| phlixi_o | (not mine though) | 16:18 |
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| jakibaki | phlixi_o: yay, that's mine :) | 16:20 |
| phlixi_o | :) | 16:20 |
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| * phlixi_o is also a fan of thinkpad niples and hates touchpads | 16:21 | |
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| useretail | hey guys, can anyone test bluetooth on sfosx? | 16:58 |
| useretail | *sailfish x | 16:59 |
| useretail | i mean on official one, not community | 16:59 |
| jakibaki | useretail: works for me :) Not sure if audio works as I don't have a bluetooth speaker near me but it worked at least in the community-build. | 17:04 |
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| pawky2 | finally, got the Xperia image downloaded :-) Anyone having the Linux install procedure? | 17:33 |
| jakibaki | pawky2 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1536424 | 17:34 |
| pawky2 | or is it just like flashing the phone with another image (which is already done? | 17:34 |
| pawky2 | I noticed the Sony binary pointed to, is older than another one I have, I presume it really NEEDS to be the older version right? | 17:34 |
| pawky2 | jakibaki: thanks for the instructions :-) | 17:35 |
| FashyGoy | can someone help with unlocking the bootloader | 17:43 |
| jakibaki | FashyGoy what step doesn't work? | 17:44 |
| FashyGoy | "a. Windows users: When asked for a driver, open the Devices and Printers directory, click on the fastboot driver and press Update. Browse and point towards the location of the new android_winbus.inf file." | 17:44 |
| jakibaki | FashyGoy: oh, can't help you with windows :/ | 17:45 |
| FashyGoy | :( | 17:46 |
| FashyGoy | problem is i wasn't asked for a driver but i assume its the same driver that was already updated with the sailfish x driver since there is nothing else | 17:47 |
| r0kk3rz | FashyGoy: you probably dont need it then, its nothing special | 17:48 |
| FashyGoy | right | 17:48 |
| FashyGoy | well i tried continuing with the instructions with | 17:48 |
| FashyGoy | 4. When your device is connected, open a command window on your computer and go to the platform-tools folder within the Android SDK folder. | 17:49 |
| FashyGoy | 5. Enter the following command: | 17:49 |
| FashyGoy | fastboot devices | 17:49 |
| FashyGoy | only to get a line saying | 17:49 |
| FashyGoy | 'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. | 17:50 |
| r0kk3rz | you do have a fastboot executable in that folder? | 17:50 |
| jakibaki | FashyGoy you need cd to the folder where you unpacked the image. | 17:50 |
| FashyGoy | oh right cd | 17:51 |
| FashyGoy | i forgot that :D | 17:51 |
| FashyGoy | its a loong time i used command prompt in windows | 17:51 |
| FashyGoy | thanks jakibaki | 17:57 |
| FashyGoy | its happening! | 17:57 |
| jakibaki | FashyGoy yay :) | 17:58 |
| ender| | FashyGoy: www.farmanager.com makes command line more bearable :) | 18:04 |
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| ender| | let's see if i can restore backup from my original Jolla to Xperia | 18:42 |
| * cb400f swipez his xperia | 18:54 | |
| ender| | ...it's been restoring Gallery for a while now - i wonder if it's stuck | 18:58 |
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| ender| | oh, it finished | 19:21 |
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| ender| | hmm, no more HereWeGo in the store? | 19:45 |
| cb400f | noticed that here too.. guess you can get it from yalp or 1mobilemarket instead | 19:46 |
| cb400f | if you install those stores manually first of course, since they aren't in Market either ;-) | 19:47 |
| pawky2 | Am i the only one who's noticed the flashtool file to be downloaded from jakibaki's flash instructions, actually don't mach with the MD5 sum provided on the website where to download it from? | 19:47 |
| pawky2 | this is what it should be: 3C70AF72F9B9E45C195F9192409E0C0F and this is what I get: a68d331f710b78f7eaf4350e70d3e693 | 19:49 |
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| pawky2 | Has anyone else trusted this flashtool version without any problems? | 19:53 |
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| jakibaki | pawky2: The flashtool works perfectly and the domain is linked in the official xda thread of the tool. The wrong md5sums are most likely just a mistake by whomever maintains the website. (especially since if someone with malicious purposes changed the links they could also change the md5sum to represent the new malicious files) | 19:58 |
| pawky2 | ok... it just feels a bit schetchy, software needs root... it connects to the internet "fetching things..." huh... | 19:59 |
| pawky2 | jakibaki: while at it... I'm already having the phone unlocked, rooted and with a different image, will this make any difference installwise, you think? | 20:01 |
| ender| | noticed first problem with SailfishX: CodeReader is having trouble focusing the camera, and apparently can't turn on the flash | 20:08 |
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| pawky2 | isnt this Jolla X image business just about installing another image on the phone, just like putting a custom ROM upon it? | 21:25 |
| pawky2 | It seems the install procedures assumes the person has an unrooted stock F5121, but min has been rooted since the time of dawn, and if its just about replacing the ROM I could be up in notime.. | 21:27 |
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| ender| | according to the readme, you have to install the latest android version first before you can install sailfish | 21:38 |
| ender| | if your is already rooted, you probably just need the latest stock image, let it boot once, then install sailfish | 21:38 |
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| ender| | i wish there was a separate volume setting for system sounds and ringtones - the sounds are a bit too loud | 22:02 |
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| pawky2 | when using windows to flash, runing the flash-on-windows.bat only takes a few seconds, afterwards the device just boot loops :-( | 22:27 |
| pawky2 | hould the total flash time only take like 25 seconds? | 22:28 |
| pawky2 | or am I just misinterpreting the Finished, message? | 22:29 |
| pawky2 | ok.. maybe I was just a bit to trigger happy, and the finished message not really meaning like totally finished, but.. somewhat finished... duh.. | 22:32 |
| pawky2 | I hope all will go well, or else I will not have any alarm clock to wake me up tomorrow... :-/ | 22:33 |
| pawky2 | yee... its booting :-) | 22:34 |
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| tiwake | how is the new sailfishOS device? | 23:58 |
| tiwake | :3 | 23:58 |
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