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| pawky2 | any news regarding teh Sony Xperia phone? | 11:51 |
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| pawky2 | is it delayed? | 11:51 |
| ^7heo | we should have a bot answering that question on /join | 11:51 |
| ^7heo | -!- XXX ~xxx@IP has joined #jollamobile | 11:52 |
| ^7heo | XXX: We do not have news about the Sony Xperia SailfishOS support. Stay tuned! | 11:52 |
| ^7heo | best would be a notice actually | 11:52 |
| ^7heo | or that's gonna make a LOT of noise. | 11:52 |
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| silje | topic? | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | nobody ever reads the topic :P | 11:59 |
| silje | point :p | 11:59 |
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| ^7heo | silje: here is what I can read from the topic: Official sites: http://www.jolla.com , http://twitter.com/JollaHQ - for customer care, https://jolla.zendesk.com | Co-cre | 12:01 |
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| ^7heo | there's *nothing* about the Xperia in there. | 12:01 |
| Jope | no, the idea was to add something about the xperia port to the topic | 12:02 |
| ^7heo | also Nicd- is right. even if it would be appended, people would not read it. | 12:02 |
| Jope | it might help.. most clients print it out on screen during join.. | 12:02 |
| ^7heo | it has to jump to their faces. | 12:02 |
| ^7heo | or they don't read. | 12:02 |
| ^7heo | blame the interwebz | 12:03 |
| Jope | reading sure is hard | 12:03 |
| ^7heo | especially reading perl. | 12:03 |
| * ^7heo hides | 12:03 | |
| silje | <blink>We do not have news about the Sony Xperia SailfishOS support. Stay tuned! </blink> | 12:04 |
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| pawky2 | but isn't it weird there is no news what so ever since the press release? nada enchiladas | 12:25 |
| pawky2 | that gives me a feeling the cooperation isn't going that well... | 12:25 |
| pawky2 | If not remembering wrongly the phone is to be launched at the end of the second quarter, like ... now | 12:26 |
| pawky2 | and if it is to be launced but delayed one would expect some news note mentioning this.. | 12:27 |
| pawky2 | but we hear exactly nothing, and thats usually a very bad sign. | 12:27 |
| ^7heo | pawky2: maybe it's just an understaffed dev team that has to accomodate both for bug fixing, optimizations, and new features? | 12:35 |
| ^7heo | pawky2: all at the same time, ofc. | 12:35 |
| ^7heo | otherwise it's not fun. | 12:35 |
| pawky2 | i am not following... | 12:36 |
| ^7heo | As a certain president would put it, "Sad". | 12:36 |
| pawky2 | yes, of course things can be delayed, if so I believe the marketing team would probably like to anounce the product will come soon, right? | 12:36 |
| ^7heo | tjat | 12:36 |
| ^7heo | grr | 12:37 |
| ^7heo | that's assuming there is a marketing team. | 12:37 |
| ^7heo | for all I know it could be a contractor. | 12:37 |
| ^7heo | Plus that would be the role of PR imho. | 12:37 |
| pawky2 | are you trying to say they have fired the marketing team??? | 12:37 |
| ^7heo | I have no idea. | 12:37 |
| pawky2 | then jolla is in real trouble.. | 12:37 |
| ^7heo | if they have or had any marketing team ever. | 12:37 |
| pawky2 | of course they had | 12:37 |
| ^7heo | "of course", not to me. | 12:38 |
| ^7heo | it's very possible for companies to use contractors for that kind of thing. | 12:38 |
| pawky2 | who did anounce the joint venture with Sony? the development team? | 12:38 |
| ^7heo | all I'm saying is, I wouldn't assume it's anyone's job to do that at that precise moment. | 12:39 |
| ^7heo | when you're firefighting, you don't care that people see it or not, you care about the fire. | 12:39 |
| pawky2 | well... that can be, but still they want to put forward what happens with something that will potentially lead to sales. | 12:39 |
| ^7heo | < pawky2> who did anounce the joint venture with Sony? the development team? | 12:39 |
| ^7heo | Maybe? | 12:39 |
| ^7heo | I wouldn't know. It's possible tho. | 12:39 |
| r0kk3rz | pawky2: then you havent been paying attention. sony has been mentioned at every meeting since announcement | 12:39 |
| pawky2 | you want to put forward progress that increases the market value of the company, or else share holders might jump ship | 12:40 |
| pawky2 | r0kk3rz: oh.. | 12:40 |
| pawky2 | r0kk3rz: so whats the news? | 12:40 |
| r0kk3rz | nothing much. xperia x is being worked on | 12:41 |
| ^7heo | That much hasn't changed ;') | 12:41 |
| pawky2 | any news wether one will be able to buy the phone now and put sailfish (including android emulator) on it when released? | 12:41 |
| r0kk3rz | no | 12:42 |
| r0kk3rz | but i expect that is how it will work | 12:42 |
| pawky2 | and I suppose this 2nd quarter release is thrown out the window? | 12:43 |
| pawky2 | (the release date) | 12:43 |
| ^7heo | There's still 10 days... | 12:43 |
| pawky2 | sounds ok.. I hope Jolla do understand silence is usually not a good thing when it comes to developing new stuff... | 12:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | pawky2: what do you want them to say? | 12:55 |
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| pawky2 | r0kk3rz: The progress I would say. | 13:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | pawky2: right, and they have in basic terms | 13:57 |
| pawky2 | not on Jollas official site | 13:58 |
| r0kk3rz | you want a blog post for "yes this thing we said was happening is still happening"? | 14:00 |
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| tbr | you can read the community meeting logs. There are official jolla statements. | 14:14 |
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| phlixi_ | just stumbled upon this: | 18:41 |
| phlixi_ | http://www.chip.de/artikel/Aldi-verkauft-Sony-Smartphones-Ein-messerscharfes-Angebot_116757331.html | 18:42 |
| phlixi_ | and | 18:42 |
| phlixi_ | https://www.netzwelt.de/news/161241-aldi-angebot-sony-xperia-x-halben-preis.html | 18:42 |
| phlixi_ | funnily one "news" item for aldi süd qand one for aldi nord | 18:43 |
| phlixi_ | ... just in case some german fellows like to buy a new xperia x for 300EUR in the local super market this week | 18:44 |
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| cehteh | mhm | 18:58 |
| cehteh | any official news on the sfos port for the xperia yet? | 18:59 |
| phlixi_ | lol | 18:59 |
| phlixi_ | no | 18:59 |
| phlixi_ | nothing besides "more news end q2" | 18:59 |
| cehteh | which means end of q2 was some marketing wet dream .. as usual | 19:00 |
| phlixi_ | well | 19:00 |
| phlixi_ | the experienced delaying professionals explititly said "expect news end q2" | 19:01 |
| cehteh | i'll stay with my jolla1 for the time coming, and hope it wont breal | 19:01 |
| cehteh | k | 19:01 |
| phlixi_ | i am pretty sure there will be a news item until end q2 | 19:01 |
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| phlixi_ | wel, actually i was wrong | 20:32 |
| phlixi_ | The target is to offer the first release to Jolla’s customers and community members by the end of Q2/2017. | 20:33 |
| phlixi_ | ...according to https://jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Sony_Jolla_press_release_MWC2017_FINAL.pdf?x12599 | 20:33 |
| phlixi_ | cehteh | 20:33 |
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| cehteh | yes, thats the first and only press release | 21:08 |
| phlixi_ | if i tell my customers in february "we aim to release this or that end of q2", then the keyword is "aim" and it practically means " i will look into this maybe at some later time" :D | 21:10 |
| phlixi_ | on the other hand i am not in the business of releasing oses | 21:11 |
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