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| N-Mi | hello | 10:43 |
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| N-Mi | my phone (Jolla 1) rebooted unexpectedly during a btrfs balance, and went into boot loop | 10:44 |
| N-Mi | tried to repair filesystem in recovery mode, did'nt work | 10:44 |
| sobukus | N-Mi: Hm, if all fails, you may have to flash a recovery image. | 10:44 |
| N-Mi | tried factory reset, stuck at "Mounting /dev/mmcblk0p28 on /mnt" step | 10:45 |
| sobukus | I had to do that after the camera app trashed my system partition. | 10:45 |
| N-Mi | sobukus: where do I find the recovery image ? | 10:45 |
| sobukus | N-Mi: That's the hard part … you don't officially. Someone in this very channel pointed me to a download … | 10:45 |
| N-Mi | ok, that's what I partly understood after doing a search on TJC | 10:46 |
| sobukus | Important is to only deal with partition 28 and not to screw the numerous other ones. | 10:47 |
| N-Mi | yep, didn't mess with other partitions | 10:47 |
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| cehteh | i frequently dont get a connection to the jolla store, is that a local problem or does anyone of you see that too? | 11:08 |
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| cehteh | local problem | 11:15 |
| sobukus | think so | 11:17 |
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| N-Mi | yesterday evening, I was unable to download last early access update (it was not able to connect to remote server, tried also to restart the network from utility menu, other devices on my LAN were working fine). But then I crashed my phone because of a BTRFS issue, so maybe the issue was also on my side | 11:23 |
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| cehteh | warehouse hangs massively here. is there some way to speed it up, database maintenance or such? | 11:34 |
| r0kk3rz | cehteh: thats normal these days | 11:38 |
| r0kk3rz | it does that from a clean install | 11:38 |
| cehteh | fuu | 11:38 |
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| N-Mi | seems there is a known bug in warehouse related to a library that has been updated a few releases ago. Not sure if the fix has to happen on the library or on warehouse side | 11:49 |
| N-Mi | lately warehouse was almost unusable for me (many apps and repos installed) | 11:49 |
| cehteh | yes | 11:51 |
| sobukus | Eh. Can someone please confirm that the Jolla 1 really produces (close to) 30 fps video? | 11:52 |
| sobukus | Kdenlive keeps telling me that the video is 25.214 fps. | 11:52 |
| sobukus | MPlayer says 29.917 fps. | 11:52 |
| sobukus | FFplay says 25.21. | 11:53 |
| sobukus | So, who's correct? | 11:53 |
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| sobukus | WTF? Mediainfo says this: Frame rate mode Variable, Frame rate 25.214, Minimum frame rate 0.305, Maximum frame rate 750.000/ | 12:14 |
| sobukus | How to deal with _such_ a video? Frame rate spread between 0.305 and 750. I guess that is a result of the choppy recording. | 12:15 |
| sobukus | Does anyone have a Jolla-recorded (old) video that has a proper frame rate? | 12:15 |
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| fennekki | I mean | 12:18 |
| fennekki | it says it's variable frame rate | 12:18 |
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| fennekki | the minimum frame rate suggests the longest frame that spans 3.3 seconds and the shortest frame spans 40 milliseconds | 12:19 |
| fennekki | it's the same concept as variable bitrate which you might have encountered in audio encoding. If the data doesn't change for three seconds encoding more than one frame is a waste of space | 12:20 |
| fennekki | oh no sorry I read that wrong. The maximum frame rate seems like a weird value | 12:20 |
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| Nicd- | fennekki: but when does the data not change for 3.3 seconds? sensor noise makes that impossible | 12:23 |
| larstiq | Nicd-: broken sensor | 12:24 |
| fennekki | unless there was no sensor input for 3 seconds | 12:24 |
| Nicd- | larstiq: you'd see that clearly in the video though. nothing like that was mentioned | 12:25 |
| fennekki | it's also possible that just straight up shows wrong values | 12:25 |
| fennekki | it's kinda hard to tell what logic mediainfo uses to pick up those numbers especially with that absurd maximum frame rate | 12:25 |
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| sobukus | Nicd-: That video is related to https://together.jolla.com/question/152267/camera-video-recording-choppy-with-big-pauses-in-video-and-skips-in-audio/ | 12:57 |
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| Nicd- | my guess is some part of the pipeline just can't keep up (maybe new gstreamer?) and it drops frames | 12:59 |
| sobukus | Maybe that is a major symptom already … I dug out an old Russian demo video of the Jolla from Youtube … that seems to have straight 30 fps. | 12:59 |
| Nicd- | my N900 used to have the same feature | 13:00 |
| sobukus | Nicd-: My question now was what frame rate I have to force it to to be able to _somehow_ use at least pieces of that video. | 13:00 |
| sobukus | And it seems that 30 fps is what the Jolla aimed for. | 13:00 |
| Nicd- | Jolla is proudly carrying the trend of its forefathers :D | 13:01 |
| sobukus | Wonderful. | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | sobukus: if the video is broken I don't know if you can do anything in the viewer | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | but I don't have too much knowledge about that | 13:01 |
| sobukus | Nicd-: I'm trying to cut scenes of that video together with another one that has proper fps (well, 29.997) … right now I was only wondering if I have to interpolate frames or can just force 30 fps and make the right cuts. | 13:02 |
| Nicd- | if there really are no frames you'd have to interpolate to make it look smooth | 13:02 |
| sobukus | That being said … perhaps I'd have to write a program that detects abnormal fps and extracts the scenes that are somewhat smooth. | 13:03 |
| sobukus | I'll cut out the really bad parts. | 13:03 |
| Nicd- | ever thought of switching phones? :P | 13:03 |
| sobukus | My plan for the future, if this really embarrassing thing cannot be resolved, is to purchase another Raspberry pi with the camera. That one does smooth h264 in hardware. | 13:04 |
| sobukus | Doesn't record audio, though. | 13:04 |
| Nicd- | why not buy a video camera? | 13:05 |
| Nicd- | what are you doing? | 13:05 |
| sobukus | "proper" camcorders can have other issues … will I get one that properly splits video files on FAT32 SD card? | 13:05 |
| sobukus | Nicd-: I'm recording live performance of a band … without a budget. | 13:06 |
| Nicd- | why do you want a FAT32 SD card btw? | 13:06 |
| sobukus | Thought I got that 300 € camera in my pocket. | 13:06 |
| sobukus | Nicd-: I don't. That is why I was relieved once the Jolla supported writing video to ext4-formatted SD card. | 13:06 |
| sobukus | But if I buy a video camera, that will defintely not support ext4 SD cards. | 13:06 |
| Nicd- | you can read NTFS and ExFAT on linux too | 13:07 |
| sobukus | I actually have a camera that can do nice videos … but is limited to 25 minutes a piece! | 13:07 |
| sobukus | Is exfat allowed nowadays? I though it was patent-infested and didn't bother investigating anything further. | 13:07 |
| sobukus | The Jolla also can work while connected to a powerbank. My Casio camera can either charge via USB _or_ record video. | 13:08 |
| sobukus | I wanted to stay clear of that crap. Hence, a small computer like the Raspi is my next choice. | 13:09 |
| larstiq | sobukus: is your 0.305-750.000 fps video shareable? | 13:09 |
| sobukus | I might be game for an action cam that _doesn't_ have 170 degree fisheye lens. | 13:09 |
| sobukus | larstiq: I can make a really dull uninteresting shareable video right on teh spot. Any small test video "features" the variable fps. | 13:10 |
| larstiq | sobukus: sure | 13:10 |
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| sobukus | larstiq: I added a link to https://together.jolla.com/question/152267/camera-video-recording-choppy-with-big-pauses-in-video-and-skips-in-audio/ | 13:21 |
| larstiq | sobukus: cheers | 13:23 |
| sobukus | I have to wonder … is this a misguided feature? Not in this extreme way, but generally the option of variable frame rate at all? | 13:30 |
| sobukus | I'm reading someplace that smartphones do that in low light conditions to get more exposure. | 13:30 |
| sobukus | Horrible idea! | 13:30 |
| sobukus | Please give me a fixed fps and fixed audio sampling rate! | 13:30 |
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| cehteh | meh .. after upgrade, sdcard doesnt mount, f2fs | 13:35 |
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| coderus | f2fs builtin in 2.0.5 afaik, remove modules from v10lator | 13:57 |
| cehteh | ah .. tryin | 14:01 |
| cehteh | mount: unknown filesystem type 'f2fs' | 14:09 |
| cehteh | fuu | 14:09 |
| cehteh | modprobe: FATAL: Module f2fs not found. | 14:11 |
| larstiq | cehteh: jolla c? | 14:16 |
| cehteh | nope phone | 14:16 |
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| cehteh | btw why does my phone boot into a 3.4.108... kernel when some 3.10... kernels are installed | 14:18 |
| cehteh | anyway no f2fs in the new kernel | 14:19 |
| larstiq | cehteh: looks like the f2fs changes are only for l500d | 14:19 |
| cehteh | l500d is? jolla C? | 14:20 |
| larstiq | ballock: ^^ correct? | 14:20 |
| larstiq | cehteh: yes | 14:20 |
| cehteh | thanks jolla | 14:20 |
| * cehteh thinks his next phone will be an android :/ | 14:21 | |
| larstiq | cehteh: so reinstall v10lators modules for now | 14:21 |
| cehteh | that doesnt help | 14:21 |
| cehteh | because there isnt a kernel module for the most recent kernel | 14:21 |
| larstiq | it's a first step to figuring out why the sdcard doesn't mount | 14:21 |
| cehteh | well its clear to me, it doesnt mount because there is no kernel module | 14:22 |
| larstiq | cehteh: right, so flog v10lator or build it yourself | 14:22 |
| cehteh | fuu | 14:24 |
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| jayaura | Thank you Mikaela for inviting | 14:59 |
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| larstiq | cehteh: I'm sorry it got left out | 15:37 |
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| AL13N | i kinda need some help with my first sailfishos app: https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme ; when browing the second plugin, i get segfault, also, it seems qmlscene shows more functionality than using sailfish-qml | 22:30 |
| AL13N | any pointers are appreciated | 22:30 |
| tadzik | segfault in a python app, that's something | 22:31 |
| tadzik | ...also, there's sailfish-qml, as in, qmlscene that supports silica? | 22:31 |
| AL13N | well, it's more qml with some python inside | 22:32 |
| AL13N | well, basically, i see that modrana was started with "Exec=sailfish-qml harbour-modrana" , since i have no main thing in c or python, i figured this approach was better | 22:33 |
| AL13N | but i've been testing normally with qmlscene; and that seemed to do more than starting it via an icon on the device itself | 22:33 |
| AL13N | "though still segfault" | 22:34 |
| AL13N | the segfault comes after some QThread resources warning... so | 22:34 |
| tadzik | ah, I guess that is what you do when you write python apps, that makes sense | 22:34 |
| AL13N | tadzik: i figure i do alot of stuff in a roundabout way probably, any app developer can probably tell me where i've done some stupid things | 22:34 |
| tadzik | I should try that, I don't like python but I hate JS :) | 22:35 |
| AL13N | tadzik: actually, the only python i use is for local file IO | 22:35 |
| AL13N | it's mostly qml | 22:35 |
| tadzik | nodnod | 22:35 |
| r0kk3rz | AL13N: any idea where the issue might be? | 22:35 |
| tadzik | so when in QML does the segfault occur? | 22:36 |
| tadzik | entering a particular page? | 22:36 |
| ballock | cehteh: larstiq: weird, I am 100% sure f2fs went into l500d/jollac/aquafish. Which sfos release is that? | 22:36 |
| AL13N | r0kk3rz: well, at start pulldown, choose browse | 22:36 |
| AL13N | then you get 2 plugins | 22:36 |
| AL13N | one of them click and it works (after some time) and the other not and crashes | 22:36 |
| AL13N | i suspect the one is slightly larger in file response (i'm using xhr to fetch stuff) | 22:37 |
| * tadzik guesses https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme/blob/master/qml/pages/ProviderPage.qml#L39 | 22:37 | |
| tadzik | where is SearchProviderPage.qml? | 22:37 |
| AL13N | been exclusively developing on jolla phone | 22:37 |
| AL13N | tadzik: not there yet | 22:37 |
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| tadzik | oh, so that | 22:38 |
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| tadzik | that's not the point in the program where the crash occurs? | 22:38 |
| AL13N | no | 22:38 |
| tadzik | https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme/blob/master/qml/pages/AddEntryPage.qml#L37 then, I assume | 22:39 |
| AL13N | not Search, choose Browse in pulldown | 22:39 |
| AL13N | well, this is the page and it works and should give you 2 entries | 22:39 |
| tadzik | right. Sorry, not running it yet, just trying to follow the code :) | 22:39 |
| AL13N | clicking on 1 works, the 2nd doesn't | 22:39 |
| AL13N | both are going to ProviderPage.qml | 22:39 |
| AL13N | somewhere in the components/Fetch it probably goes wrong | 22:40 |
| AL13N | if you exec on a jolla you'll probably see what i mean | 22:40 |
| r0kk3rz | AL13N: im not sure the way you access the model on the delegate is right | 22:40 |
| * AL13N neither | 22:41 | |
| r0kk3rz | you shouldnt need to bind it to a property like that | 22:41 |
| AL13N | r0kk3rz: first app, so i donno what the hell i'm doing | 22:41 |
| r0kk3rz | its a delegate | 22:41 |
| AL13N | i've not been using ListModel (but just regular Array of Object) as model, because ListModel seems to do weird crap wrt regular Objects as properties, it doesn't like it. downside is that i need to do the sync, which i do by resetting the model to the Array, which triggers the change... :-S | 22:43 |
| tadzik | heh, updating the model I've found to always be a PITA | 22:43 |
| tadzik | unless you're doing something trivial | 22:43 |
| AL13N | i didn't want to just for model purposes do some C++ Model classes | 22:44 |
| tadzik | nah, shouldn't be necessary | 22:44 |
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| AL13N | anyway, for the most part the app already works, now i can follow my comics and read the next chapter etc... | 22:45 |
| AL13N | predownload X chapters and such | 22:45 |
| AL13N | and check updates | 22:45 |
| tadzik | sweet | 22:45 |
| tadzik | I should get around to fixing my geocaching app | 22:46 |
| AL13N | in regards to the segfault, i added (manually) a comic from the second plugin and now i can follow that one too, i just cannot browse the comic list from the second plugin... | 22:46 |
| AL13N | plan was to do way more comic plugins and manga too, etc... | 22:46 |
| AL13N | i suspect it's some kind of resource drain i'm doing | 22:47 |
| AL13N | r0kk3rz: i donno what the hell i'm doing, so any pointers are cool | 22:47 |
| AL13N | (i just hope no other application exists that's called FollowMe) | 22:48 |
| r0kk3rz | your provider property in the listview delegate, i think thats probably doing it, some array reference error or something | 22:48 |
| AL13N | you mean https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme/blob/master/qml/pages/ProviderPage.qml#L39 ? | 22:50 |
| AL13N | cause that can't be it, i'm not doing Search yet | 22:50 |
| r0kk3rz | https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme/blob/master/qml/pages/AddEntryPage.qml#L26 | 22:51 |
| AL13N | it's probably more something like this: https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme/blob/master/qml/pages/ProviderPage.qml#L100 | 22:52 |
| AL13N | r0kk3rz: ok | 22:52 |
| AL13N | r0kk3rz: so what do i need to do here? | 22:52 |
| ballock | cehteh: just checked on 2.0.5.4, jollaC, f2fs is in there | 22:53 |
| r0kk3rz | AL13N: im not sure of the contents of your model, but you should have direct access to the item without doing that in the delegate | 22:54 |
| AL13N | hmm, ok, i found it, if in the Fetch on https://github.com/alien999999999/harbour-followme/blob/master/qml/pages/ProviderPage.qml#L100 i removed the onReceived and instead fill the model only once in the onFinished, then it works... | 22:56 |
| AL13N | i think the constant switching/updating of the model is crapping stuff out | 22:56 |
| Lieke | ballock: i think they were talking about jolla1 | 22:56 |
| AL13N | r0kk3rz: i guess i'm sort of using it like a shortcut... | 22:57 |
| r0kk3rz | AL13N: yeah i get what you're doing, its just kinda weird | 22:57 |
| AL13N | ok, in any case, i fixed the biggest problem (and committed) | 22:59 |
| AL13N | but still, this app is not good at all (yet) | 23:00 |
| AL13N | so any pointers or pull-requests or whatnot is ok | 23:00 |
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| AL13N | it's still some ways off from being put into harbour though | 23:00 |
| ballock | Lieke: oh, that might explain it | 23:01 |
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