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r0kk3rzwow, fedora 25 is using wayland as default display server09:54
Yanielwith custom patches to make nvidia drivers work09:55
r0kk3rzyeah, but hopefully other distros will follow suit, and then people like nvidia will target it properly09:56
Yanielapparently there is a collaborative effort going on to specify a new allocator to replace both eglstreams and gbm09:57
Yanielso there's still hope09:58
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r0kk3rzwow this gstreamer exploit sounds like a good one12:47
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r0kk3rz" If you reworked this exploit to work in the context of the unsandboxed /usr/libexec/tracker-extract process, by fiddling with a few heap offsets etc., youโ€™d have an unpatched drive by download exploit against Chrome + Fedora."12:50
r0kk3rz:/12:50
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mornfallsounds like old news to me13:08
r0kk3rz2 days old13:10
Yanielpretty sure I saw that one two weeks ago13:13
mornfallI mean, running an unconstrained process that parses everything that lands on your disk sounds like awesome idea.13:17
mornfallPresumably, sfos does the same thing.13:17
mornfallWho wouldn't. :-)13:17
r0kk3rzsfos has tracker, so yeah13:18
mornfallwe all laughed at outlook express way back when didn't we13:18
mornfallall the hardening work undone by a single program playing a rough game :) move fast and break things, wasn't it?13:20
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the_mgtbut the tracker in sfos is stupid as a can of baked beans, luckily18:49
the_mgtso, we probably do not suffer so much from that bug. (wrt to a chat 4,5h ago)18:49
r0kk3rzthe_mgt: the bug wasnt in tracker though, but gstreamer18:58
the_mgtr0kk3rz yes, but the example states, that tracker could be used as a means to exploit the bug18:59
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the_mgtand then someone said sfos uses tracker too. I read that... the thing is, tracker in sfos is a lazy donkey and only works when properly whipped and carrotted19:00
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r0kk3rzworks fine for me :P19:02
the_mgthow often do you add new tracks? how many tracks are in the "unkown artist" category? do you issue commands manually on terminal?19:06
r0kk3rznot often, i use my own media player so none, and rarely19:07
the_mgtI added two albums to the sd card today. maybe 30-40 tracks. took a combination of 3 commands to get them showing properly in media player19:09
YanielI have long since given up on the media player19:10
the_mgt1. nuke the tracker db. 2. tell the stupid thing to index. 3. kill it so songs are moved out of "unknown artist" category19:10
r0kk3rzYaniel: thats why i wrote my own19:12
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the_mgtthis is incredibly stupid. linux is only free if your time has no value19:12
Yanielwhich one is that?19:12
Liekethe stock media player works mostly fine for me, it's just missing album art for like half the albums19:13
the_mgtfollowing this logic, the buying price for the phone increases everytime i have to do stupid stuff like petting a linux service.19:13
r0kk3rzYaniel: SirenSong, its on open repos, it probably wont suit your needs because its somewhat basic19:14
Yanielah19:15
r0kk3rzi quite selfishly wrote it for my own use case19:15
Yanielyeah I've been using quasarmx19:15
the_mgtalbum art is a luxury good. i just want to be able to actually play music when i add it, Lieke19:15
Yanielit's done most of the things I want it to so far19:15
Liekeyeah, that's no problem in my case19:15
the_mgtthe thing is, there are two bug reports on tjc, i needed to combine both. and one of them was quite old19:15
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r0kk3rzi wonder if their combination of tracker + grillo isnt causing half the problems19:16
r0kk3rzi use tracker directly, and it works well enough19:16
the_mgtwell it seems that one bug actually is somehow a fault of tracker. it does not even start to index the added directories on the sdcard. or not fast enough.19:18
the_mgtafter forcing it to index them, both were added as "unknown". closing media player app, issuing a "tracker-whatsthecommand -k" and starting media player again displays them properly as unique albums19:20
r0kk3rzgive it time to work19:20
the_mgtwhy? because i use linux and am not allowed to have comfort?19:22
the_mgtbecause i did not buy one of the big players and need to be tortured for that decision?19:22
r0kk3rzbasically, yes19:23
the_mgtlook, the thing is, it works instantly, *when* you kick and punch tracker19:23
the_mgti even nuked the whole db completely, so it had to start from scratch. and it finds all albums in like 10 seconds. and if it wasn't stupid as a dead hedgehog on the street, it would have shown them properly as unique and correct albums19:24
the_mgtI used tracker on my desktop (ok, that has more horsepower) and it worked like a charm. that it does not work on the phone is what annoys me19:25
r0kk3rzyeah its a two step process, first is discovery, then it actually processes the files for metadata19:25
r0kk3rziirc tracker-control will show status on what its doing19:26
the_mgtah, yeah. tracker-control it was. 1. tracker-control -r (to drop the db) 2. tracker-control -es (to start indexing) 3. tracker-control -k (to kill it)19:29
the_mgtmy guess is, that the metadata extraction is the most faulty part. if you leave it alone, it will find stuff in waves19:29
the_mgtstarting with the oldest files. at least it seems so to me19:30
r0kk3rzyeah possibly, and it will also depend on whether the media player is open most likely19:32
r0kk3rzsince it parses the tracker output into a thing called grillo, which is its own kinda media metadata model thing19:33
the_mgtthere is a faw somewhere in that chain19:37
r0kk3rzprobably, tracker isnt known for being an excellent piece of software19:45
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abransonthe_mgt, r0kk3rz: i just fixed a big source of missing artist/album metadata and album covers21:59
abransonturned out some audio files store their album covers as single frame video streams, and that was confusing the libav extractor22:00
abransonbut it's fixed now. the trouble is that sfos is about the only thing that uses libav instead of gstreamer as the fallback media extractor, so it's not been kept up to date22:01
abransonbut tracker's now been upgraded to a more recent version, and it's doing a lot better22:02
r0kk3rzabranson: why not using gstreamer then?22:03
r0kk3rzits on the device...22:03
abransonr0kk3rz: i was told that gstreamer on these sorts of devices used the media hw quite extensively22:04
r0kk3rzoh right22:04
abransonQtMultimedia etc use a resource policy thing to make sure two processes don't interrupt each other. it's quite a job to add that to tracker apparently22:05
abransonplus you don't want your video pausing because tracker finds a new track22:05
r0kk3rzaha, yes that makes sense22:05
abransonbut i might have a look into that - i think the worst bit is that the resource thingy is Qt, and tracker is very very gnome22:05
abransonit'd feel dirty putting a QObject into the middle of all that G22:05
abransonbut seeing as all the media playback is gstreamer, it's a bit weird that the indexing is done with libav.22:06
abransonhard to guarantee that you can play what you find22:07
abransonbut if anyone wants to test the new tracker and tell me about bugs, i'd be very happy22:07
abransoncarlos has been very nice about accepting my patches upstream too22:07
abransonit's all here and very open: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/tracker22:08
r0kk3rzabranson: is that somehting i would need to build myself?22:09
abransonyeah but it's really easy. just an 'mb2 -s rpm/tracker-libav.spec' build from an sdk22:10
abransonthe other spec is the rotten gstreamer version22:10
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r0kk3rzi'll just build it on obs, just making sure thats what i need to do22:14
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abransonr0kk3rz: oh yes, it's probably on there already22:41
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