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| temmi_hoo | now that pdanek mentioned razor thin phones, are there any THICK modernish phones that are of reasonable size? ideally around 129 × 47 × 21 mm (dimensions of 6310i i just copypasted over) | 05:31 |
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| temmi_hoo | i hate it when the devices are wide and thin and bend broken in pockets AND when not doing that will cut into your fingers when using | 05:32 |
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| sakustar | temmi_hoo: ottercase will fix that (other brands may also, otter is just the bulkiest ive seen) :D | 08:03 |
| sakustar | and google tells me its otterbox, oh well | 08:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | its funny, how phone manufacturers have outsourced structrual integrity to case makers | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | externalising costs to the user | 08:53 |
| Nicd- | temmi_hoo: doesn't match your screen size requirements but Moto Z Play | 08:54 |
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| mornfall | r0kk3rz: yeah, it has to be really thin if you are going to slap an external case on it anyway :P | 09:13 |
| r0kk3rz | but then they make it so thin that you have to | 09:18 |
| mornfall | vicious cycle | 09:19 |
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| sakustar | cracked my screen for the last time :-( | 09:57 |
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| mornfall | sakustar: no more phones? | 10:05 |
| sakustar | ah, i wish :-) | 10:06 |
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| sobukus | Oh, no … is this real? Finally the Jolla phone can record videos to sd card. I happily format a 32 GiB card with ext4 and test things … videos get stored there. But then: Recording 2.5 hours results in a 12 GiB file where stuff after about the first 4 GiB seems to be junk. | 21:19 |
| sobukus | Is it known that the Jolla fails to record longer videos? | 21:20 |
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| tadzik | uh-oh :( | 21:21 |
| sobukus | Should I have to resort to hacking the firmware of my digicam to be able to store videos longer than 25 minutes? | 21:22 |
| sobukus | (not that I have any hope of achieving that) | 21:22 |
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| kimmoli | if you xan sacrifice some quality, you can reduce video bitrate | 21:34 |
| kimmoli | can* | 21:34 |
| mornfall | not sure how much more quality there is to sacrifice :P | 21:34 |
| sobukus | kimmoli: Well, so far my assumption is that it's the classic 4 GiB limit and reducing resolution may be a stop-gap measure. But it sucks. I got a 32 GiB sd card. Why not use it? | 21:36 |
| sobukus | If the Camera app would at least stop recording and throw an error instead of writing junk data. | 21:37 |
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| sobukus | At least I have to assume it's junk. I cannot seek past about 50 minutes on the Jolla itself nor on mplayer or avidemux. | 21:37 |
| phlixi | a lot of the time its about software beeing 32bit | 21:37 |
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| sobukus | phlixi: But large file support is so last century … and even then, I'd expect the header to be wrong, but the video stream should still work … | 21:38 |
| phlixi | sounds to mee as if you never had to actually make a software 64bit | 21:39 |
| sobukus | How's the state of open source with the Jolla apps? Perhaps one could fixup that one. | 21:39 |
| phlixi | but of course it might just be some tiny bug, that just waits for a fix | 21:39 |
| sobukus | phlixi: You're wrong. I suffered massive pain making the API of libmpg123 work in the field with and without largefile support, as I introduced off_t in it. | 21:40 |
| sobukus | I know too much about large file support. There are scars in my brain., | 21:40 |
| * sobukus reading up on MP4 container | 21:42 | |
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| sobukus | frame=84090 fps=1524 q=-1.0 size= 4105741kB time=00:50:55.68 bitrate=11007.1kbits/s speed=55.4x [NULL @ 0x1db69e0] Failed to open bitstream filter h264_mp4toannexb for stream 0 with codec copy: Invalid argument | 21:46 |
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| sobukus | This is ffmpeg trying to get past the magic barrier of the video from the Jolla. | 21:46 |
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| sobukus | kimmoli: Where would I find a setting for the video quality (e.g. record in 720p)? | 21:54 |
| sobukus | I only see one for the still picture resolution. | 21:54 |
| kimmoli | you can install my camera-settings-plugin | 21:54 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/kimmoli/onyx-camera-settings-plugin | 21:55 |
| kimmoli | this is latest camres to make that json file https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-camres | 21:55 |
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| kimmoli | you can change resolution and bitrate then | 21:56 |
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| sobukus | kimmoli: OK, thanks … these are projects for the SDK, right? | 21:57 |
| kimmoli | those are prebuilt in mer obs too | 21:58 |
| kimmoli | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:kimmoli/onyx-camera-settings-plugin | 21:58 |
| sobukus | ah | 21:58 |
| sobukus | Well, I did build software on the Jolla before … but old-school in the terminal;-) | 21:59 |
| sobukus | Is the source code of the camera app avaiable so that one could fix it? Or perhaps a simple recorder program using exported API is in reach? | 21:59 |
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| kimmoli | there is cameraplus somewhere | 22:00 |
| kimmoli | dunno then is it gstreamer issue or what | 22:00 |
| sobukus | Ewh. | 22:00 |
| sobukus | But I would be a bit surprised if gstreamer is that stupid. | 22:01 |
| sobukus | I'll open an issue on tjc anyway … and investigate those settings as resort. | 22:01 |
| kimmoli | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29609708/record-with-gstreamer-h264-aac-in-mp4-produces-only-partially-playable-file | 22:01 |
| sobukus | Oh | 22:01 |
| sobukus | kimmoli: Hm, you happen to know which gstreamer version is active in Sailfish? | 22:02 |
| sobukus | That bug looks like a match. | 22:03 |
| kimmoli | eh. dunno is that in | 22:03 |
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| sobukus | kimmoli: Hm, gstreamer 0.10.36 … I wonder if that patch was backported to the old gstreamer series. | 22:06 |
| sobukus | kimmoli: Is the camera app using gstreamer? Then this would be an easy fix. | 22:07 |
| kimmoli | gstreamer is below there yes | 22:08 |
| * sobukus also wonders if the files would be repairable by fixing the chunk offset values | 22:08 | |
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| sobukus | I'm used to source distros … but just perhaps I could manage installing a fixed gstreamer package if that bug still applies. | 22:09 |
| kimmoli | it should be in gst-plugins-bad | 22:09 |
| sobukus | not good? | 22:10 |
| mal- | it's in -good | 22:22 |
| sobukus | kimmoli: Looking at https://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good/log/gst/isomp4/gstqtmux.c?h=0.10 … I do see guint64 being used for chunk_offset there, but the code differs sufficiently, so I don't know if that was simply a bug introduced in the 1.0 branch. | 22:23 |
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| mal- | sobukus: why do you have 0.10 gstreamer still? | 22:23 |
| kimmoli | freedesktop cgit is pita to browse | 22:23 |
| sobukus | mal-: It's what I see in my install of Sailish on the Jolla phone. | 22:23 |
| mal- | sobukus: do you have the latest release of sailfish on your device? | 22:23 |
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| sobukus | Yes. 2.0.4.14. Isn't that the latest? | 22:24 |
| mal- | that is | 22:24 |
| sobukus | There is gst-launch-0.10 … no gst-launch-1.0 | 22:25 |
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| sobukus | mal-: Are there packages for the current gstreamer for Sailfish? | 22:26 |
| pdanek | Can I ask Android question here? | 22:26 |
| sobukus | And would the camera use that? | 22:26 |
| pdanek | Somehow I trust Sailors more in mobile in general. :D | 22:26 |
| mal- | sobukus: there is also gstreamer1.0-plugins-good | 22:27 |
| sobukus | mal-: in openrepos? I don't see it listed in pkcon … so the official version for Sailfish is 0.10, I presume? | 22:28 |
| mal- | sobukus: I have that on sailfish | 22:28 |
| mal- | official version | 22:28 |
| pdanek | Problem: I don't have admin rights on my work laptop to install Google Drive and the web interface sucks when I need to organize a bit more. | 22:29 |
| pdanek | Idea of solution: I'm actually able to connect my phone and see the storage. Could I somehow browse G.Drive folder of my phone through the connected PC? If yes, how? Obviously I won't find Google Drive folder in MTP connected drive. | 22:30 |
| mal- | sobukus: on my 2.0.4.14 I have 1.4.5-git9 | 22:30 |
| sobukus | pdanek: I guess that question really is off-topic … (I didn't even use google services when using an Android phone). | 22:32 |
| sobukus | mal-: Did you install that in addition or is it actually part of the system (i.e. used by the Camera and Gallery apps)? | 22:33 |
| * sobukus confused | 22:33 | |
| mal- | hmm, actually that is a community port, that doesn't have gst-plugins-good installed and everything works | 22:35 |
| mal- | it only has gstreamer1.0-plugins-good | 22:35 |
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| sobukus | mal-: Well, could you tell me of your camera app is able to record a video file larger than 4 GiB properly? See you in about 1.5 hours;-) | 22:38 |
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| kimmoli | i could test that faster with 60MBit bitrate/4K video | 22:39 |
| mal- | sobukus: I'm just about to get some sleep | 22:39 |
| kimmoli | sobukus: what it says for you? pkcon search name good | 22:39 |
| kimmoli | Just pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/ck8XA8Zj | 22:40 |
| sobukus | Ah. I searched for gst-plugins | 22:41 |
| sobukus | mal-: Then let the phone record your dreams … | 22:42 |
| sobukus | mal-: Good night, anyway. | 22:42 |
| mal- | it's possible that 1.4.5 is too old, maybe kimmoli can test | 22:42 |
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| sobukus | kimmoli: Yes, thanks, I see it now, too. I got 1.4.5+git9.1-1.6.1 | 22:43 |
| mal- | the latest version in mer-project git is 1.8.3 | 22:43 |
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| kimmoli | not testing tonight. | 22:43 |
| sobukus | kimmoli: Is it easy to install the source rpm and build a local patched version of the package? | 22:43 |
| * sobukus not that experience with rpm distros | 22:43 | |
| kimmoli | dunno | 22:44 |
| kimmoli | i use obs or sdk usually | 22:44 |
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| sobukus | Well, if mer/sailfish is not too exotic, I might just be able to test that patch you found. | 22:45 |
| sobukus | I'm a bit scared of SDK, with all that Qtness. | 22:45 |
| sobukus | I'm used to text files and console. | 22:45 |
| mal- | I can build that new version quickly on obs, not sure if that will work with old gstreamer | 22:45 |
| sobukus | mal-: If it's not troublesome to replace the old one in my install with that one, I might test. | 22:46 |
| mal- | probably next sailfish release will have newer -good package | 22:49 |
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| sobukus | mal-: I don't suppose it will be out this friday … I need to record a live show somehow. And the Jolla would fit the bill technically. | 22:50 |
| mal- | sobukus: it seems all gstreamer packages need to be updated | 22:50 |
| sobukus | I wonder if I have to resort to soldering GPIO buttons to my raspi with it's PiNoIR camera | 22:51 |
| sobukus | mal-: I feared as much | 22:51 |
| sobukus | kimmoli: https://together.jolla.com/question/151757/camera-recording-broken-video-after-4-gib-file-size-sailfish-os-20414/ … at least it's documented now … | 22:53 |
| kimmoli | good | 22:54 |
| kimmoli | add your versions of installed gst* gstreamer* packages too? | 22:55 |
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| mal- | sobukus: I'm building those all, we'll see what happens | 22:55 |
| kimmoli | latestbleedingedgiest | 22:55 |
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| sobukus | kimmoli: I didn't change anything there … it's stock Sailfish. | 22:57 |
| kimmoli | still | 22:59 |
| sobukus | k | 23:02 |
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| * sobukus fails to get at the frikkin' source package | 23:07 | |
| sobukus | pkcon search shows it to me … how does one grab that src.rpm? | 23:08 |
| mal- | you don't want to build anything on the device, that would be slow | 23:12 |
| sobukus | mal-: If it needs an hour to build the stuff while I sleep, who cares? | 23:13 |
| sobukus | First thing was that I actually just want to look at the source corresponding to what I have installed to see if that bug applies. | 23:14 |
| sobukus | So far I am really embarrassed that I'm apparently too dumb to figure out how pkcon might install/download that source package it indicates in the search results/ | 23:15 |
| mal- | I'm building those packages on obs | 23:15 |
| sobukus | mal-: You're building the up-to-date gstreamer, right? | 23:15 |
| sobukus | I just want to check if that little bugfix would apply. If it is the problem I deal with. | 23:16 |
| sobukus | A whole update of gstreamer could have side-effects, too … | 23:16 |
| mal- | yes | 23:16 |
| mal- | sobukus: the other option is that you stop the recording for a second every hour or so | 23:17 |
| sobukus | mal-: I'm busy during that stage performanc the phone should record on video;-) | 23:18 |
| sobukus | If I'd have time to stop/restart recording, I could use my stupid "proper" camera that only records up to 25 minutes. | 23:18 |
| sobukus | Aha, I see https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:mal:testing/gst-plugins-good . | 23:19 |
| sobukus | I guess figuring out how to install obs packages properly is about as difficult as looking at that source rpm … | 23:21 |
| mal- | installing is trivial, I will tell the commands when that is ready | 23:23 |
| sobukus | mal-: anything specific about the ofono in your repo? | 23:23 |
| sobukus | I still am not sure what kind of issue I have with that one … it managed to loose the connection for good at least two times, needed service restart to phone again. | 23:23 |
| sobukus | (the stock ofono, that is) | 23:23 |
| mal- | nope, just a version I was using to test a patch | 23:24 |
| kimmoli | does zypper si --download-only work? | 23:25 |
| sobukus | Well, for that you need zypper, right? | 23:25 |
| kimmoli | it is there | 23:25 |
| sobukus | not on my phone, I presume | 23:25 |
| kimmoli | if not, pkcon install zypper :), as iirc afaik pkcon cant download source pkgs | 23:25 |
| sobukus | hm, pkcon can install zypper … isn't there any conflict? I'm a bit cautionous about several tools managing the package repos (what is doing the actualy work behind pkcon without zypper/yum?) | 23:27 |
| kimmoli | pkcon is preferred. but it uses zypper as backend | 23:27 |
| kimmoli | libzyp actually | 23:28 |
| mal- | sobukus: ssu ar testing http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/mal:/testing/sailfishos_latest_armv7hl/ | 23:28 |
| mal- | sobukus: pkcon refresh | 23:28 |
| kimmoli | pkcon repo-set-data testing refresh-now true | 23:29 |
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| kimmoli | faster :) | 23:29 |
| mal- | sobukus: pkcon install gstreamer1.0-plugins-good | 23:29 |
| mal- | then check that it updates the other stuff also | 23:29 |
| * sobukus tries to ignore him trusting random people on the internet with binaries | 23:29 | |
| kimmoli | we are not random | 23:30 |
| sobukus | Well, from you I could try to compare a hand-written signature with the backside of my phone;-) | 23:30 |
| kimmoli | you can go there in obs to check what it is built from | 23:30 |
| sobukus | otherwise, we are all just a bunch of characters in IRC here | 23:30 |
| kimmoli | indeed http://kimmoli.com/ | 23:31 |
| mal- | we are sailfish porters, I have done 11 devices so far and kimmoli has also done porting and many apps | 23:32 |
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| mal- | sobukus: did those install successfully? | 23:39 |
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| sobukus | mal-: I needed extra time because I mis-typed the URL on the TOHKBD2 | 23:41 |
| sobukus | I did not bother with ssh session yet. | 23:41 |
| sobukus | mal-: it just installed gstreamer1.0-plugins-good, the others are still old | 23:43 |
| sobukus | Should I force updates or try if just the plugin update indeed works? | 23:43 |
| mal- | then install those also | 23:43 |
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| sobukus | OK, gstreamer core and plugins updated; nemo interfaces and droid are still the same | 23:46 |
| mal- | yes, let's leave those | 23:48 |
| sobukus | OK, I still was able to record a video with the camera app. | 23:48 |
| mal- | now try is camera works after reboot of thedevice | 23:48 |
| sobukus | Heh, I wondered if a reboot is due. | 23:48 |
| sobukus | Just to be safe, I presume. | 23:48 |
| mal- | just to be sure | 23:48 |
| mal- | I also suggest testing video playback and various audio features to be sure everything works | 23:50 |
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| sobukus | mal-: Hm, after the reboot, I don't see my freshly recorded videos on the sd card in the gallery … can see them on the card (and play them on my desktop via sshfs over USB). | 23:56 |
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| sobukus | Oh, damn. And the camera app just crashed on stopping a video recording. | 23:57 |
| mal- | it's possible that the gstreamer droid is now incompatible, that I cannot build | 23:58 |
| sobukus | The video is stored fine, just the app crashes on finishing. | 23:58 |
| sobukus | Yeah, pictures, too. | 23:59 |
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