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| Marzanna[m] | Anyone got Fiskarsinjoki update on AquaFish? | 17:45 |
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| Riotela | I would imagine those #freenode_#jollafanclub:matrix.org people have as there was some script for making it think it's JollaC | 18:18 |
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| kimmoli | there are instructions in tjc | 18:23 |
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| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/148893/how-to-make-aqua-fish-to-think-its-jolla-c-not-modem/ | 19:26 |
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| cehteh | yes .. root .. shell .. curl .. YES | 20:21 |
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| coderus | cehteh: ? | 21:27 |
| cehteh | i think its alway a bad idea to instruct users to execute things this way, let them download the script locally, inspect it, then execute | 21:29 |
| cehteh | and possibly add a gpg signature to that script | 21:29 |
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| coderus | cehteh: why? if you smart enough you can do that by opening link in browser, if not - even if you download script you can't even understand what it doing :) | 21:39 |
| cehteh | the point is that it show the one giving this instruction is careless, of course some skilled user may be more cautionous, but recommening executing scripts this way is malpractice imo | 21:41 |
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| coderus | why? | 21:42 |
| coderus | same if i do an app doing that by suid process, no difference | 21:42 |
| coderus | script is easier to make | 21:42 |
| cehteh | a app (installable by openrepos) would be signed or? | 21:44 |
| coderus | nothing is signed | 21:44 |
| cehteh | woot they are not? | 21:44 |
| coderus | sure | 21:44 |
| cehteh | wtf | 21:45 |
| coderus | not even official ones | 21:45 |
| cehteh | i never checked that, just expected it to be | 21:45 |
| coderus | i expected to have less paranoid peoples around me, but, eh.. | 21:45 |
| cehteh | its not just about paranoia, but good practice to leave no attack surface open would make things safer by default. | 21:46 |
| coderus | what attack surface with executing bash script from curl in root shell? | 21:47 |
| cehteh | do you trust github 100%, i mean even if they are not evil minded, they might get compromised, or maybe only your accout could get compromised and in turn be used to spread malware to other people | 21:49 |
| cehteh | ideally one wants to have some trust chain to the author of a script/app/whatever | 21:53 |
| cehteh | if i install apps from you of course i need to trust you in some extend, but there are so much things inbetween which could be fucked up | 21:53 |
| cehteh | well thats a different topic, i started with one should just publish some sane (as in not racy) way when giving instructions about executing shell scripts | 21:53 |
| cehteh | curl https://.... >script.sh; less script.sh; sh script.sh | 21:54 |
| cehteh | or even put a implicit gpg signed script up then one has to gpg verify it, but arguably that could complicate things too much | 21:55 |
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| coderus | thats why i say: paranoid | 22:04 |
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| coderus | i can upload script to my server, but i dont want | 22:05 |
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