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| louisdk | How do I preform a btrfs filesystem check on a Jolla Phone via CLI? What command(s)? :) | 13:01 |
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| kimmoli | https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 13:12 |
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| kimmoli | start with e.g. btrfs fi show | 13:13 |
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| pdanek | Did anyone holded oneplus with the sandstone back/case? | 13:47 |
| pdanek | Do you think it's one of best materials for phone to have good grip? | 13:47 |
| pdanek | I still haven't tried it | 13:47 |
| Marzanna[m] | It has very good grip. I liked it. | 13:47 |
| Nicd- | I got my a battery cover for my phone \o/ | 13:49 |
| Nicd- | but verkkokauppa.com told me it has QI charging and it doesn't :| hopefully they'll give me a discount | 13:50 |
| pdanek | Nicd-: I didn't get that | 13:50 |
| pdanek | Can you rephrase please? | 13:50 |
| pdanek | You have sandstone on your battery cover? | 13:50 |
| pdanek | :D | 13:50 |
| Nicd- | no | 13:50 |
| Nicd- | it was unrelated | 13:50 |
| pdanek | Oh ok! :D | 13:50 |
| Nicd- | just related to back covers | 13:50 |
| pdanek | yep | 13:51 |
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| pdanek1 | Riotela: here? | 15:53 |
| Riotela | Mau | 15:54 |
| Riotela | pdanek1:? | 15:56 |
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| pdanek1 | oh, I think nothing anymore :D | 16:05 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: I was wondering on which security patch level is your OnePlus 3 | 16:05 |
| pdanek1 | if September one or already October one | 16:05 |
| Riotela | http://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/KeJTWgSScvybYltnBNdgAmqr - Screenshot_20161022-190638.png (102KB) | 16:06 |
| Riotela | http://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/WSrVYjHNOaKirJEZEelButcI - Screenshot_20161022-190616.png (108KB) | 16:06 |
| Riotela | pdanek1: | 16:06 |
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| pdanek1 | Riotela: that's bad | 16:17 |
| Riotela | So I thought, but it's Android so I don't have so high expectations. Mobile and security seem mutually exclusive. | 16:18 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: Unless you use Nexus or Pixel device | 16:23 |
| pdanek1 | they're most secure | 16:23 |
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| Riotela | And most expensive | 16:23 |
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| Marzanna[m] | Has anyone tried to compile kernel from sources to make usb host work? | 16:35 |
| Nicd- | Marzanna[m]: in which device? | 16:36 |
| Marzanna[m] | Nicd-: JollaC/AquaFish | 16:36 |
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| tbr | Marzanna[m]: we looked into it for SbJ and it was a clusterf*ck. I'd be surprised to hear Aquafish being easier. | 16:42 |
| tbr | ID pin not wired and otg state machine complicated and maybe even partly done in HW | 16:43 |
| coderus | why not recompile kernel to get magnetometer working? | 16:44 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: have you thought of switching to the beta releases? | 16:45 |
| kimmoli | C/fish has also no ID pin.. | 16:45 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: http://downloads.oneplus.net/oneplus-3/oneplus_3_oxygenos_3.5.4_community_build/ | 16:47 |
| pdanek1 | It should have security patches much more often. | 16:50 |
| pdanek1 | you flash your device with this community beta | 16:50 |
| pdanek1 | and then you will be receiving regular updates | 16:50 |
| pdanek1 | don't be fooled by the community in the name, it's simply beta update channel of official OxygenOS, | 16:51 |
| Riotela | pdanek1: no | 17:06 |
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| Riotela | I want to stay stock/stable/unrooted/etc. as long as officially supported | 17:13 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: rooting oneplus doesn't break warranty | 17:16 |
| pdanek1 | and installing this beta rom doesn't break warranty either | 17:16 |
| Riotela | but does break OTA updates AFAIK | 17:16 |
| pdanek1 | https://oneplus.net/uk/support/answer/will-rooting-or-unlocking-the-bootloader-void-my-warranty | 17:17 |
| pdanek1 | The technical process of rooting or unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty of a OnePlus device. | 17:17 |
| pdanek1 | rooting may break some OTA, true | 17:17 |
| pdanek1 | but if you install this beta OxygenOS | 17:17 |
| pdanek1 | you will be getting OTAs from OnePlus | 17:17 |
| pdanek1 | but instead of every 1-2 months | 17:17 |
| pdanek1 | you will be getting OTA every 2 weeks :) | 17:18 |
| Riotela | but this beta ROM probably won't be just upgrade and let everything stay in it's place | 17:18 |
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| pdanek1 | everything that's comming to the official OTA, will be sooner in beta rom | 17:18 |
| pdanek1 | they said that they have 3 update channels: | 17:19 |
| pdanek1 | closed beta | 17:19 |
| pdanek1 | open beta | 17:19 |
| pdanek1 | and official stable | 17:19 |
| pdanek1 | closed beta has maybe 4 releases per month | 17:19 |
| pdanek1 | open beta around 2 releases | 17:19 |
| pdanek1 | and official update every 1-2 months | 17:19 |
| Riotela | rewording: this ROM probably will remove everything from my device requiring me to go through the effort of installing and configuring everything the way I want it to be again? | 17:20 |
| pdanek1 | it's the same thing as early access releases on SailfishOS | 17:20 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: yes that's true, you will have to do this effort indeed | 17:21 |
| pdanek1 | but once you do it, you can stick to it and receive OTA updates on this beta rom | 17:21 |
| Riotela | nothing got removed with EA of SfOS as far as I can remember | 17:21 |
| pdanek1 | yes, because on SFOS you just enable it | 17:21 |
| pdanek1 | here you have to reflash with beta rom | 17:21 |
| pdanek1 | it's not perfect, but definitely nice option I would say | 17:22 |
| Riotela | I am not able to go through the process of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything currently. | 17:22 |
| pdanek1 | yep | 17:22 |
| pdanek1 | btw guys here, are you happy with early access releases? or do you find it unstable? | 17:22 |
| r0kk3rz | its no more or less stable than regular sfos updates | 17:27 |
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| Lieke | never had a serious problem with them since they introduced early access | 17:30 |
| Riotela | the instructions seem too simple and it's tempting, but I am on Windows which is worrying and the file downloads slowly and it's late and I am currently recovering from surgery and would appreciate things being stable and not needing too much configuration especially if they are my primary phone or ebook reader | 17:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | wtf, turing actually sent out 24k gold plated sailfish phones | 17:45 |
| Yaniel | wat? | 17:47 |
| Yaniel | they actually claim to have done something? | 17:47 |
| r0kk3rz | Yaniel: they've sent out 'evaluation' phones | 17:47 |
| Yaniel | 24k 'evaluation' phones? seems legit | 17:48 |
| r0kk3rz | one of which is this garish looking thing called gladr | 17:48 |
| r0kk3rz | i just assumed it was pretend gold, but apparently its actual gold | 17:48 |
| kimmoli | is the blinbling intended to fool the user? | 17:49 |
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| pdanek1 | Riotela: yes, in general rooting or flashing onepluses was always simple | 17:49 |
| r0kk3rz | Yaniel: regardless of the 'evaluation' status, these appear to be real phones really running sailfish | 17:49 |
| pdanek1 | and all onepluses, including those sold in carrier stores, have unlocked bootloader | 17:49 |
| Yaniel | well, that's something | 17:49 |
| pdanek1 | Turing phone :O | 17:50 |
| Riotela | pdanek: I mostly have experience with Samsung and that wasn't so fun. | 17:50 |
| Yaniel | do you have any sources on this? | 17:50 |
| pdanek1 | http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/24k-gold-turing-phones-start-shipping-taiwan.html | 17:51 |
| pdanek1 | "the user confirmed that the device does sport a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor paired up with 32GB of RAM" | 17:51 |
| pdanek1 | 32GB of RAM :D | 17:51 |
| pdanek1 | I guess it should be 3GB | 17:52 |
| pdanek1 | anyway snapdragon 820, nice | 17:52 |
| Yaniel | :D that's some sick specs | 17:52 |
| pdanek1 | so Turing may be legitimate company after all | 17:53 |
| pdanek1 | and they will be the true flagship of Sailfish OS | 17:54 |
| r0kk3rz | for some definitions of legitimate | 17:54 |
| pdanek1 | "A 5.5 -inch 1920 x 1080 panel on the front of the device does a fine job of balancing image quality and battery life, and makes the device just good enough for VR use." | 17:54 |
| pdanek1 | VR on Sailfish! | 17:54 |
| pdanek1 | "It’s plain to see that the device runs Sailfish OS 2.0, but a heavily modified version for security." | 17:55 |
| pdanek1 | so SailfishOS is pain for most, hmm | 17:55 |
| pdanek1 | oh, plain | 17:55 |
| pdanek1 | not pain :D | 17:55 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek1: 'plain to see' is another way of saying obvious | 17:57 |
| r0kk3rz | rather than 'oh how plain' | 17:57 |
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| pdanek1 | I know | 17:58 |
| pdanek1 | I just read pain before :) | 17:58 |
| pdanek1 | the Turing phone should be waterproof also | 17:59 |
| Riotela | Does it still feature the headphone jack? :P | 18:00 |
| pdanek1 | nope | 18:00 |
| pdanek1 | due to security | 18:00 |
| pdanek1 | although I don't understand how analog output can affect security | 18:01 |
| Riotela | it can affect waterproofness, no idea on security | 18:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | it was originally supposed to be an android super secure crypto cypher phone thing | 18:04 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure the random power connector and lack of headphone jack are supposed to lend credence to that | 18:04 |
| pdanek1 | r0kk3rz: and it isn't super secure crypto cypher phone thing? | 18:07 |
| r0kk3rz | its supposed to be | 18:08 |
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| Riotela | Either that community build is bloat or it didn't touch my apps & data | 19:02 |
| Riotela | http://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/dtawwHlBayWMQOiotdHuiwOI - VectorImage_2016-10-22_100230.jpg (76KB) | 19:02 |
| Riotela | Jolla1 camera + Riot is horrible combination | 19:03 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: you flashed it? | 19:03 |
| pdanek1 | that didn't take long :D | 19:03 |
| Riotela | pdanek1: yes, but Windows was Windows and I had to carry it to somekindofLinuxPrintServerThing from 2006 which actually worked unlike Windows that made me wait forever to complain about connection problem | 19:06 |
| Riotela | http://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/JTTyEnTZeQNkhZIxOfcfmqsY - VectorImage_2016-10-22_100638.jpg (255KB) | 19:06 |
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| pdanek1 | Riotela: lol | 19:16 |
| pdanek1 | so you flashed it and your apps and data are restored same as before? | 19:16 |
| Riotela | It downloaded that Android Studio thing for hour while apt took two minutes if even that for android-tools-adb | 19:17 |
| pdanek1 | :D | 19:17 |
| pdanek1 | but is it done now? | 19:17 |
| pdanek1 | all running? | 19:17 |
| pdanek1 | does it behave stable? | 19:17 |
| pdanek1 | or any bugs? | 19:17 |
| Riotela | pdanek1: I followed the instructions and FAQ said that in some situations data loss isn't neesed and I think this is thay case optimizing 155 of 185 | 19:17 |
| pdanek1 | yep | 19:18 |
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| pdanek1 | my nexus 5 is in bad state now | 19:18 |
| pdanek1 | it often breaks | 19:18 |
| pdanek1 | can't start | 19:18 |
| pdanek1 | and then it like automatically reovers the OS | 19:18 |
| pdanek1 | and starts the same thing: optimizing applications | 19:19 |
| pdanek1 | and I get everything back as before, but you need to wait long to get this finished | 19:19 |
| Riotela | :( | 19:19 |
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| Riotela | http://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/NlLAHmUUunhBtgTBhmrPrTAH - Screenshot_20161022-222413.png (107KB) | 19:25 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: everything works fine? | 19:30 |
| Riotela | pdanek1: only issue I can see is nltificaton bar being invisible in Settings (see screenshot) | 19:32 |
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| Riotela | Fixed by changing system theme to dark. It also changed notification sounds | 19:33 |
| pdanek1 | right | 19:34 |
| pdanek1 | Riotela: so for now you're gonna stick with beta ROM | 19:34 |
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| Riotela | http://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/IeVUspxnVaiUokQnwLeSasEb - Screenshot_20161022-223657.png (76KB) | 19:38 |
| Riotela | A new nice update screen. Now if I figured out how to stop complaining about data usage warning (I tethered the ROM download and macOS Sierra) | 19:38 |
| pdanek1 | hehe | 19:39 |
| Riotela | By swiping it to right -.- | 19:40 |
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| pdanek1 | gnight | 19:49 |
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| yrjo | hi, I just broke my jolla1 so I need a new sailfish phone but I live in France, what are my options? | 23:30 |
| cehteh | not much | 23:42 |
| Marzanna[m] | JollaC and Intex AquaFish. There are also community ports to another devices but lack android support and other things. | 23:44 |
| cehteh | you may find used jolla1 on ebay or so | 23:45 |
| cehteh | http://www.ebay.de/itm/Jolla-C-Smartphone-Jolla-Tablet-32GB-Latsu-Cover-/201682921918 | 23:45 |
| cehteh | wahaha | 23:45 |
| cehteh | i think for 400Eur i'd sell my jolla1 too :D | 23:46 |
| yrjo | this is sad :( | 23:50 |
| cehteh | there are no sailfish OS phones offically available in europe currently | 23:51 |
| cehteh | jolla C is sold out, maybe you can ebay one, Aquafish is only available in india, maybe you can import one | 23:52 |
| cehteh | the community ports lack android support and other features, otherwise Fairphone 2 would be nice but pretty expensive too | 23:52 |
| yrjo | I heard bad stories about importing aquafish since it lacks CE | 23:53 |
| cehteh | and FP2 is on backlog, sold out, they producing a new batch i tihnk | 23:53 |
| cehteh | jolla C is a rebranded aquafish | 23:53 |
| cehteh | that should have CE | 23:53 |
| Marzanna[m] | You can try to buy JollaC here https://buyon.ru/1285496/jolla-c-16gb-krasnyy-dual-sim-4g-lte-3g/ | 23:54 |
| cehteh | on german ebay are a few | 23:54 |
| yrjo | it says that it's unavailable | 23:55 |
| cehteh | but i totally agree, the lack of devices is very very sad | 23:55 |
| Marzanna[m] | yrjo: my gf bought it there despite unavailable status. | 23:56 |
| cehteh | what did it cost? | 23:57 |
| Marzanna[m] | Around 240 USD | 23:58 |
| * cehteh brought a moto X few days ago for his wife .. with marshmallow android improved a lot, actually i feel it is much more useable than it was years ago (coindidently the task switcher works a bit like SFOS etc) | 23:58 | |
| Marzanna[m] | I bought AquaFish from ebay.in It was much cheaper. | 23:58 |
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| cehteh | i hope my jolla1 will last, but in the current situation i would consider an android instead some crippled jolla device | 23:59 |
| cehteh | yes aquafish is cheao 180Eur or so | 23:59 |
| cehteh | but its specs are not that good either | 23:59 |
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