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| chriadam|windows | r0kk3rz: Pawky: updated https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1641 with information. Pawky are you able to provide log files from connection attempts which fail, so we can track down the cause of the CRAM-MD5 failure? (instructions in the bug) | 06:20 |
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| merbot | Mer bug 1641 in messagingframework "QMF defaults to CRAM-MD5 for PLAIN auth email accounts" [Task,New] | 06:20 |
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| Pawky | chriadam|windows: well... fail and fail.. when you create a new "general account" it will by default choose CRAM-MD5, and you cannot change it.. unluckily I haven configured my mail server to support CRAM-MD5 so it will fail, earlier it used PLAIN when configuring. | 07:23 |
| Pawky | chriadam|windows: I am therefore a bit unsure what logs you want. Nothing is going wrong to my knowledge, or do you mean the client should be testing several different authentication methods and fails? | 07:25 |
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| chriadam|windows | Pawky: no, it doesn't | 07:28 |
| chriadam|windows | it chooses nothing | 07:28 |
| chriadam|windows | it then queries the server for what's supported | 07:29 |
| chriadam|windows | if your server is reporting that it supports CRAM-MD5 and then fails to support CRAM-MD5 connections, that's a server side issue - but yes, one which we should work around in our plugin. | 07:29 |
| Pawky | ok.. so that's where things go wrong... | 07:29 |
| chriadam|windows | (that's our assumption - but we need the qmf logs to be sure) | 07:29 |
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| chriadam|windows | enabled via /home/nemo/.config/QtProject/Messageserver.conf | 07:29 |
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| Pawky | chriadam|windows: syslog i suppose? | 07:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | chriadam|windows: thanks. so that authentication class was a bit of a red herring then | 07:37 |
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| chriadam|windows | r0kk3rz: we believe so - there are ifdefs in there for USE_ACCOUNTS_QT (which uses accounts&sso), so I think that one wasn't used in practice | 07:41 |
| r0kk3rz | cool, its good to get the merbug started anyway | 07:42 |
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| Pawky | chriadam|windows: is this what you want? http://pastebin.com/zpvCWBVP | 07:43 |
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| Pawky | chriadam|windows: that was from the syslog when creating an account having syslog=1 enabled in that file.. | 07:47 |
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| chriadam|windows | Pawky: I think you need to try to send an email (I assume it was SMTP you had issues with) to see the logs from QMF / messageserver5 | 07:52 |
| Pawky | no.. when creating the account :-/ | 07:52 |
| Pawky | But maybe its my server that needs som configuration as well, I will have to check it later on tonight. It could be the server actually anounses the client can use CRAM--MD5 but something goes wrong when later on doing so... | 07:54 |
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| chriadam|windows | ah. I'll ask matt about that flow | 07:54 |
| chriadam|windows | going to be a little while, meeting atm | 07:54 |
| Venemo | hey | 07:58 |
| Venemo | my Jolla C is unable to download the profile pics of my contacts from google | 07:59 |
| Venemo | is there a way to help that? | 07:59 |
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| chriadam|windows | Venemo: hrm, can you get MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=8 logs? | 08:33 |
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| chriadam|windows | Venemo: note that if you have a lot of contacts, it will download small numbers of avatars (about 50, IIRC) over subsequent sync cycles | 08:34 |
| chriadam|windows | because Google throttles applications which perform too many requests within a short period of time | 08:34 |
| Venemo | chriadam|windows: well, none of my favourite contacts have avatars yet since ISCE | 08:35 |
| Venemo | okay, two or three of them have | 08:35 |
| Venemo | chriadam|windows: sure, can you please tell me how to get those logs? | 08:35 |
| chriadam|windows | Venemo: 1) modify /etc/systemd/journald.conf and set RateLimitBurst=5000 and RateLimitInterval=5s then reboot device | 08:42 |
| Venemo | ok | 08:43 |
| chriadam|windows | 2) ssh into device, restart msyncd with extra debug logging enabled: systemctl --user stop msyncd, then MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=8 devel-su -p msyncd | 08:43 |
| chriadam|windows | 3) leave that running, ssh in again, collect logs via devel-su journalctl -af | grep google-con | 08:43 |
| chriadam|windows | 4) trigger sync via longpress in settings/accounts -> Sync | 08:43 |
| * chriadam|windows afk for lunch | 08:43 | |
| Venemo | okay | 08:44 |
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| Helle | I wish I could continously sync my Jolla 1 and Jolla C | 08:45 |
| Helle | like sync contacts, messages, etc | 08:45 |
| LarstiQ | Helle: two views of the same state? Or some independence? | 08:45 |
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| Helle | two views of the same state | 08:46 |
| Helle | possibly with either one temporarily being behind because of being offline | 08:46 |
| Helle | but like a peer to peer sync of that | 08:46 |
| Helle | (I already have that for files) | 08:46 |
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| Venemo | chriadam|windows: here: http://pastebin.com/ryuyyks2 | 08:52 |
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| chopix | hello guys | 09:23 |
| chopix | im new to sailfish | 09:23 |
| chopix | how to manually set the IP for wifi without DHCP? | 09:23 |
| till | i guess via ifconfig | 09:24 |
| chopix | no way through the interface? | 09:25 |
| chopix | i seem even enable to connect using the interface hmm | 09:25 |
| Nicd- | go to settings -> wlan | 09:25 |
| Nicd- | long press on your network (must be withing listening range unfortunately) -> edit | 09:25 |
| chopix | I am there | 09:26 |
| chopix | but | 09:26 |
| chopix | all i see is "connect to internet" | 09:26 |
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| chopix | i mean it seems i couldnt connect | 09:26 |
| Nicd- | what are you long pressing on? | 09:26 |
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| Nicd- | I don't mean pull down | 09:27 |
| chopix | i dont have any connection | 09:27 |
| chopix | so i pull down | 09:27 |
| chopix | nothing in the list | 09:27 |
| Nicd- | ah, you have to connect first, then it will be added to the list. if you are unable to connect and it won't appear in the list, you need to use the command line I guess | 09:27 |
| chopix | I guess i can ssh to the phone through usb | 09:28 |
| chopix | hmm? | 09:28 |
| chopix | so i can use putty? | 09:28 |
| till | if you enable dev mode yes | 09:28 |
| lpotter | I am kind of suprised that is not fixed... | 09:28 |
| chopix | cool doing this | 09:28 |
| till | (and set a password) | 09:28 |
| chopix | what ip the phone gets through USB? | 09:29 |
| lpotter | I had a patch that fixed that, but it never got finished :( | 09:29 |
| chopix | u mean connecting to a WLAN without DHCP? | 09:29 |
| chopix | seems a big issue | 09:30 |
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| till | chopix: the one you set in dev mode config :) | 09:30 |
| lpotter | ya. and being able to sey DNS while using dhcp | 09:30 |
| lpotter | using even | 09:31 |
| chopix | dev mode requires a jolla account | 09:31 |
| chopix | O_o | 09:31 |
| chriadam|windows | Venemo: according to the log, there are no outstanding avatars | 09:31 |
| till | doesn't the phone require a jolla account at all? | 09:31 |
| chriadam|windows | Venemo: "queued 0 avatars for download" | 09:31 |
| chopix | so am I in a loop? unable to connect to internet | 09:31 |
| chopix | to get a jolla account | 09:31 |
| chriadam|windows | Venemo: can you check under /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/avatars | 09:31 |
| till | chopix you may use fingerterm to set up your ip | 09:32 |
| chriadam|windows | to see if the files exist? if they do, but don't appear in the People app, then there is some issue with the field value (i.e., file path) being formatted incorrectly, perhaps | 09:32 |
| chopix | is it installed by default? | 09:32 |
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| chopix | fingerterm | 09:32 |
| till | phew, maybe that's why you need the jolla account, to install dev-mode and fingerterm | 09:32 |
| chopix | hahah omg | 09:33 |
| chopix | how to get jolla account without internet | 09:33 |
| till | you can create it using your pc | 09:33 |
| till | it's the same as for jolla.com, the shop and tjc | 09:33 |
| chopix | then I can insert it manually? | 09:33 |
| Nicd- | you cannot enable dev mode without internet connection anyway | 09:33 |
| Nicd- | it needs to download stuff | 09:34 |
| Nicd- | afaik | 09:34 |
| till | well, that's tricky | 09:34 |
| till | you could try to get the packages manually | 09:34 |
| chopix | well I am using sailfish since 10 mins and I am already frustrated | 09:34 |
| till | can't you enable a dhcp server? | 09:34 |
| chopix | till : NO INTERNET | 09:34 |
| chopix | yeah seems like i must | 09:34 |
| chopix | enable dhcp on my router | 09:34 |
| till | but how are you using irc without internet? | 09:35 |
| chopix | how to transfer the packages to the phone | 09:35 |
| chopix | explain | 09:35 |
| chopix | if i donwload them on my pc | 09:35 |
| till | usb/mtp should work | 09:35 |
| till | maybe bluetooth or sd card | 09:35 |
| chopix | then how to install? is there a file manager? | 09:35 |
| Nicd- | yes... you need to download it :D | 09:36 |
| till | right... that's another ponit :) | 09:36 |
| chopix | enabling DHCP | 09:36 |
| till | I guess the easiest way is to get a wifi with dhcp | 09:36 |
| chopix | this is quite bad btw | 09:36 |
| till | or a sim card with mobile data contract | 09:36 |
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| Nicd- | welcome to the sailfish experience | 09:39 |
| till | indeed, shipping a unix device without a terminal is bad :D | 09:39 |
| Nicd- | till: like Apple does? :P | 09:39 |
| chopix | they should just allow ppl to use WLAN without dhcp | 09:40 |
| chopix | nothing "extreme" | 09:40 |
| till | as any phone company does afaik | 09:40 |
| till | chopix I guess very few people are doing so and it got overlooked | 09:40 |
| chopix | seems something very basic | 09:41 |
| Nicd- | do we even have enterprise wlan support yet? | 09:41 |
| Nicd- | enterprise wpa2 I mean | 09:41 |
| till | using a terminal yes :D | 09:41 |
| Nicd- | so no :P | 09:41 |
| till | well there is the app "roamer" | 09:42 |
| till | but for me it never worked right, plus I had already configured my wifi | 09:42 |
| chopix | why do ppl need DHCP for | 09:43 |
| chopix | do they run 200 internet enabled devices in their home? | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | because they don't want to configure things manually? | 09:43 |
| Nicd- | I don't care about my IP, I just want to connect easily | 09:43 |
| till | because they got guests sometimes, which just want to get "internet" | 09:44 |
| leinir | people need dhcp because people don't need to be able to hot wire a car they built themselves to get from a to b | 09:44 |
| till | i've configured static dhcp leases for my main devices, the rest is dynamic | 09:45 |
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| Nicd- | not even my printer has a static IP | 09:45 |
| leinir | Nicd-: indeed... super long lease, but not static | 09:46 |
| till | and at university manual configuration would just be impossible | 09:46 |
| Nicd- | leinir: autodiscovery | 09:46 |
| leinir | Nicd-: which is great when it works... our printer's a hp laserjet 2300n... needs a bit of hand holding ;) | 09:47 |
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| Nicd- | I've yet to have a problem with my printer. guess I'm lucky | 09:48 |
| chopix | guys at home i have 2 pcs, 1 printer, 1 tablet, and some cellphones, since I dont run any dns server, i would like to have the same ip | 09:48 |
| Nicd- | chopix: I have 2 pcs, 2 laptops, 2 phones, printer, tablet, tv, receiver, blu-ray player, digital set top box. all work fine with DHCP :P | 09:49 |
| chopix | why do u need internet connection on a blu ray player hmm? | 09:50 |
| till | 1 dual boot pc, 1 raspberry pi, 1 dual boot notebook, 1 jolla, 1 old nokia, 1 media pc. and several devices from my flatmates | 09:50 |
| leinir | we're three people, and have... eight devices just in the media centre which require network... somewhere around eight (i think) laptops between us, a tablet and a phone each, plus a couple of other random tablets, printer and various other things | 09:50 |
| till | forgot my 2 tablets | 09:50 |
| leinir | our airwaves are so congested we had to get a semi-pro level access point for it to not fall over when we have guests :P | 09:51 |
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| Nicd- | chopix: updates, watch youtube / other streaming stuff (though I use my TV for that nowadays) | 09:51 |
| chopix | is the root pass | 09:53 |
| chopix | the user nemo? | 09:54 |
| chopix | *the same | 09:54 |
| Nicd- | devel-su pass is what you set in developer mode settings | 09:54 |
| chopix | i see like the n9 | 09:54 |
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| chopix | is there any cmd line package manager | 09:57 |
| chopix | ? | 09:57 |
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| Nicd- | pkcon is installed by default | 09:58 |
| Nicd- | most used commands: pkcon refresh, pkcon update, pkcon install, pkcon install-local | 09:58 |
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| locusf | pkcon search name | 10:03 |
| chopix | the mail client seems quite...crude | 10:05 |
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| Venemo | chriadam|windows: looking at it now | 10:21 |
| Venemo | chriadam|windows: 'nemo' does not have permissions for that place | 10:22 |
| Venemo | chriadam|windows: otherwise it seems to have a lot of jpegs organized into folders | 10:22 |
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| chriadam|windows | hrm, that's what I'd expect. I wonder if the field mapping got messed up somehow..? | 11:06 |
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| Venemo | chriadam|windows: I dunno. I also tried deleting and re-adding the google account, but that didn't help | 11:28 |
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| chriadam|windows | curious, according to the MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=8 log, were the avatars downloaded by the sync plugin when you re-added the account? | 11:29 |
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| Venemo | chriadam|windows: http://pastebin.com/F6PSjc0M | 11:33 |
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| chopix | Is there a better terminal | 11:54 |
| chopix | for sailfish than fingerterm | 11:54 |
| chopix | with let's say pinch to zoom | 11:55 |
| chopix | anyone managed to transfer SMS from the nokia n9 to a sailfish device? | 12:00 |
| ln- | i think there is a guide for doing that somewhere | 12:01 |
| r0kk3rz | android almost gets multitasking http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/08/android-7-0-nougat-review/4/#h1 | 12:01 |
| chopix | i guess http://somewhere.com/guide/ :p | 12:02 |
| r0kk3rz | chopix: searching TJC is a good start | 12:03 |
| chopix | doing that | 12:03 |
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| HtheB | ok I've had enough with Jolla C and problems with the Dalvik :( | 12:09 |
| HtheB | somehow, 90% of when I reboot or even restart the homescreen, some of my apps says that the device information has been changed | 12:09 |
| HtheB | and that I need to re-register it again | 12:10 |
| r0kk3rz | i hear JollaCs in good condition go for like 1000€ | 12:10 |
| tadzik | wow | 12:12 |
| chopix | hey hitb | 12:12 |
| chopix | im ciapas from the forums | 12:13 |
| HtheB | hi | 12:17 |
| HtheB | it's HtheB | 12:18 |
| Nicd- | chopix: there is some sort of terminal app on openrepos but I don't think it has zoom | 12:18 |
| chopix | im listening to super chill hindi music on my gaana app HtheB | 12:18 |
| chopix | sup? | 12:18 |
| HtheB | Im getting insane because of the problems that Jolla C has | 12:18 |
| chopix | I am afraid I can't help | 12:19 |
| chopix | by I can sell you my intex for 500 euro | 12:19 |
| chopix | s/by/but | 12:20 |
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| tadzik | so aliendalvik's drm is fucking up legitimate users? | 12:22 |
| tadzik | how could this happen %) | 12:22 |
| Nicd- | tadzik: ? | 12:22 |
| r0kk3rz | probably playstore drm, but yeah | 12:23 |
| Nicd- | oh, backlog | 12:23 |
| tadzik | ah | 12:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | chopix: why would someone pay 500€ for an aqua fish? they're available new for like 80€ | 12:25 |
| LarstiQ | HtheB: which device information, which apps? | 12:25 |
| HtheB | chopix: I already have Jolla C :P | 12:25 |
| HtheB | LarstiQ: It happens 99% with KakaoTalk | 12:26 |
| HtheB | I can provide the APK if needed | 12:26 |
| LarstiQ | HtheB: and what is the issue? | 12:26 |
| chopix | HtheB: but you miss the hindi hits :p | 12:26 |
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| chopix | r0kk3rz: I am just joking :D | 12:27 |
| HtheB | LarstiQ: everytime when you reboot or restart homescreen | 12:30 |
| HtheB | it asks to re-register it | 12:31 |
| HtheB | because the device information has been changed | 12:31 |
| HtheB | I never had this issue with Jolla 1 | 12:31 |
| HtheB | chopix: lol | 12:32 |
| LarstiQ | HtheB: what does that mean, you need to register the specific device with KakaoTalk for syncing purposes? | 12:32 |
| HtheB | LarstiQ: I need to enter my phone number again, wait for verification | 12:33 |
| HtheB | its like registering again | 12:33 |
| HtheB | you can try it out by yourself to see what I mean :( | 12:33 |
| HtheB | my banking app also gives errors because of the same problem | 12:34 |
| HtheB | need to re-register it | 12:34 |
| HtheB | and it's really annoying :( | 12:34 |
| LarstiQ | HtheB: personally I'll pass, but can maybe turn it into a bug | 12:34 |
| tadzik | ah, so it's just specific apps, I thought it's the entirety of aliendalvik | 12:34 |
| LarstiQ | HtheB: do they say what is missing/different? | 12:34 |
| HtheB | tadzik: no WhatsApp works fine | 12:34 |
| LarstiQ | or just an opaque "reregister naow!" | 12:34 |
| HtheB | let me show you a screenshot | 12:38 |
| HtheB | although, its just a message showing: | 12:39 |
| HtheB | Re-verification is required as your device information has changed. | 12:39 |
| LarstiQ | hrmpf | 12:40 |
| chriadam|windows | Venemo: `devel-su journalctl -b | grep google-con` ? | 12:47 |
| Venemo | chriadam|windows: http://pastebin.com/mRq8PegC | 12:48 |
| chriadam|windows | Aug 23 10:51:22 Sailfish google-contacts-client[7647]: [D] GoogleTwoWayContactSyncAdaptor::queueOutstandingAvatars:651 - debug: queued 0 avatars for download for account 11 | 12:50 |
| chriadam|windows | so it seems like Google is not reporting any avatars... | 12:50 |
| chriadam|windows | I wonder if the Google API changed? | 12:50 |
| HtheB | LarstiQ: https://together.jolla.com/question/142516/some-android-apps-need-repeated-re-verification/ | 12:52 |
| LarstiQ | HtheB: are you in a position to provide apks? | 12:53 |
| HtheB | LarstiQ: yeah | 12:54 |
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| HtheB | LarstiQ: uploading | 12:56 |
| Venemo | chriadam|windows: I dunno, maybe they are downloaded (there are pics in the place you mentioned) but Contacts app doesn't find them? | 12:58 |
| chriadam|windows | Venemo: if you do: devel-su -p sqlite3 /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db "SELECT * from Avatars;" | 12:59 |
| chriadam|windows | do you see the correct paths? | 12:59 |
| Venemo | chriadam|windows: http://pastebin.com/kLbjfiaR | 13:00 |
| Venemo | this is what I see | 13:00 |
| Venemo | looks okay to me | 13:00 |
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| HtheB | LarstiQ: done | 13:07 |
| HtheB | LarstiQ: http://htheb.com/list/droid/Apps/KakaoTalk_com.kakao.talk.apk | 13:08 |
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| chriadam|windows | indeed... looks fine to me... I wonder if bug in People app... | 13:14 |
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| arvut | hey, I've started to experience some weird problems with my jolla | 13:27 |
| arvut | when I add a new contact, and the phone shuts down due to empty battery, the contact I added isn't there when I boot it up again | 13:28 |
| arvut | I've also had a "critical problem with app registry", rebuilt it ofcourse and no more errors after that | 13:29 |
| arvut | is it dying? | 13:29 |
| coderus | Balance btrfs? Jolla1? | 13:29 |
| arvut | its a jolla1, yes | 13:29 |
| arvut | is the jolla2 out yet? | 13:29 |
| Nicd- | there is jolla c | 13:30 |
| temmi_hoo | same thing happens if the phone shuts down due to making a ringtone and oomph runs out | 13:30 |
| Nicd- | so people have started calling the first one jolla 1 | 13:30 |
| temmi_hoo | it didn't write the record that someone tried to call when the ringing started | 13:30 |
| temmi_hoo | it records it when you did or didn't answer | 13:30 |
| temmi_hoo | arvut: if you did however manage to save the new added contact and quit people app before accidental shutdown THEN indeed there might be something to the effect coderus said | 13:31 |
| arvut | I added a contact with 30% battery though, then rebuilt registry due to that critical error, used the phone until it ran out of juice and charged it the day after | 13:32 |
| temmi_hoo | ah | 13:32 |
| temmi_hoo | dunno about it then | 13:32 |
| temmi_hoo | i thought the phone died out of power in middle of the procedure of adding a contact | 13:32 |
| arvut | I also couldn't transfer my contacts from my old jolla to this one (took over my sisters phone about 8 months ago when she migrated to iphone 5) | 13:33 |
| arvut | mine had a cracked display, but worked fine apart from that | 13:33 |
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| arvut | what's new in the jolla c btw? is it more powerful or mainly bugfixes? | 13:35 |
| LarstiQ | arvut: https://jolla.com/jollac/ | 13:36 |
| r0kk3rz | arvut: its completely different | 13:36 |
| arvut | checking it out now, looks like twice the performance, no? | 13:37 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe not twice, but its pretty zippy | 13:37 |
| r0kk3rz | but you're too late if you want one | 13:37 |
| arvut | ahh darn | 13:37 |
| arvut | so are there plans for a jolla2 then? | 13:38 |
| r0kk3rz | not as such | 13:38 |
| r0kk3rz | partner devices are the future | 13:38 |
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| arvut | k, what about the tablet? will it be reproduced or is that history by now? | 13:39 |
| LarstiQ | arvut: Intex's AquaFish is pretty close to a JollaC if you're happy with Indian bands | 13:39 |
| LarstiQ | arvut: history | 13:39 |
| arvut | k | 13:39 |
| LarstiQ | arvut: unless a third company comes up with a tablet and gets a Sailfish license | 13:39 |
| arvut | how would I go about to get a new battery for my jolla phone? | 13:40 |
| arvut | the life of the one I got is rather short by now | 13:41 |
| r0kk3rz | you dont | 13:41 |
| arvut | hmm | 13:41 |
| arvut | thought the whole idea of a replacable battery was to be able to buy new ones when the old ones ran out.. | 13:41 |
| LarstiQ | arvut: stock is out, essentially | 13:43 |
| arvut | and no new ones will be produced I suppose | 13:44 |
| r0kk3rz | there are similar ones avavilable, but its 'thar be dragons, not our fault if it explodes on you' kinda thing | 13:44 |
| arvut | heh, I see | 13:44 |
| arvut | might be worth a try then when this one is dry | 13:44 |
| arvut | anything you can "recommend"? (inofficially ofcourse) | 13:45 |
| r0kk3rz | there are rumours you might be able to find yourself on tjc | 13:45 |
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| temmi_hoo | LarstiQ: are there any comparison tables to the indian bands as to whether they work at all in northern europe? | 13:46 |
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| LarstiQ | temmi_hoo: works in southern Finland | 13:47 |
| arvut | r0kk3rz: The Jewellery Channel? | 13:47 |
| r0kk3rz | arvut: yes exactly | 13:47 |
| temmi_hoo | LarstiQ: that's pretty much my main area of interest, how'd you guess? | 13:47 |
| LarstiQ | temmi_hoo: that's where I live ;) | 13:47 |
| temmi_hoo | also, some jolla meetups have been arranged in helsinki hacklab if you're interested in any of that | 13:47 |
| r0kk3rz | temmi_hoo: its only the LTE bands that are different | 13:49 |
| temmi_hoo | coincidentally i got to stop ircing for a while right now as i start driving towards said lab for the weekly club meeting every tue 17-> | 13:50 |
| temmi_hoo | o/ | 13:50 |
| chopix | I guess ssoon or later we would be able to flash jolla c firmware on the intex | 13:50 |
| chopix | trying to have my phone number unbanned by whatsapp urgh | 13:54 |
| chopix | guys whats the best offline navigation app on jolla at the moment? | 13:57 |
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| Venemo | chriadam|windows: does it work for you properly? | 14:26 |
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| chopix | back | 14:48 |
| chopix | guys do you remember the app vicar for n9? | 14:48 |
| chopix | is there anything similar for sailfish? | 14:49 |
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| chopix | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81799 | 14:51 |
| chopix | if you never used it | 14:51 |
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| chriadam|windows | Venemo: yes, works for me, with Google. | 14:53 |
| chopix | i need an alien harmattan emulator | 14:56 |
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| r0kk3rz | chopix: port the app | 14:59 |
| chopix | im no developer | 15:00 |
| chopix | im a sad sysadmin | 15:00 |
| r0kk3rz | so learn | 15:00 |
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| chopix | r0kk3rz | 15:12 |
| chopix | i saw your update of 2015 on the question | 15:12 |
| chopix | about a sip support on sailfish | 15:12 |
| chopix | on tjc | 15:13 |
| chopix | any news about that? | 15:13 |
| r0kk3rz | nope | 15:13 |
| chopix | its in the roadmap | 15:15 |
| chopix | of more than a year ago | 15:15 |
| chopix | hmmm | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah it never made it | 15:18 |
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| chopix | at least the betamax android app works flawlessy | 15:32 |
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| Venemo | chriadam|windows: so it is a problem on my C? | 15:51 |
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| chopix | ughhh openrepo freeze my phone | 16:54 |
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| pdanek | Hey guys, | 17:05 |
| pdanek | Is there any rumor of new phone with Sailfish OS? Or nothing at all? | 17:05 |
| pdanek | I mean except Intex Aqua Fish and Turing phone, they're released, not rumors anymore :) | 17:05 |
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| cb400f | the Oyster thingy .... and Fairphone2 keep teasing | 17:06 |
| cb400f | dunno if anything is happening with that african mi-fone stuff | 17:07 |
| cb400f | soon we'll be swimming in phones, we need more tablets ;-) | 17:07 |
| * cb400f luckily has the Jolla tablet of course, but still | 17:07 | |
| Venemo | I just would like to see a bugfix release of SFOS, that's all | 17:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | bugs are fixed in every release | 17:17 |
| pdanek | Will the releases for Intex Aqua Fish be at the same time with Sailfish releases for Jolla? | 17:19 |
| pdanek | Or it will have delay? If, how long? Couple days? A month? More? | 17:20 |
| pdanek | And are the updates for Aqua Fish still from official Jolla repositories, or updates are managed by Intex? | 17:20 |
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| coderus | Intex it seems | 17:25 |
| Venemo | r0kk3rz: nope | 17:26 |
| pdanek | That's bad | 17:27 |
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| Venemo | at least, they don't get fixed if I reported them | 17:29 |
| Venemo | huh. | 17:29 |
| r0kk3rz | Venemo: maybe you should stop reporting them, and then they'll get fixed :D | 17:32 |
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| Venemo | r0kk3rz: tried that. didn't work | 17:32 |
| r0kk3rz | lame | 17:32 |
| Venemo | yeah | 17:33 |
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| pdanek | got my intex today | 18:50 |
| pdanek | it feels cheaper than Jolla | 18:50 |
| pdanek | in hands | 18:50 |
| suosaaski | so not the same device? | 18:50 |
| pdanek | cheaper than Jolla 1 | 18:50 |
| pdanek | not Jolla C | 18:50 |
| pdanek | Jolla C is the same | 18:50 |
| suosaaski | ah, right | 18:50 |
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| chopix | it surely feels cheaper than the n9 | 19:00 |
| suosaaski | that's no surprise | 19:00 |
| chopix | i also miss some key features software wise | 19:02 |
| chopix | well nothing tracig so far | 19:03 |
| chopix | still not totally happy to have to use android apps to get to n9 usability | 19:08 |
| tadzik | what are you missing that the n9 had? | 19:14 |
| chopix | voip/sip | 19:15 |
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| chopix | local access dialiang rule | 19:15 |
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| chopix | I had my first sailfish device since few hours so maybe its too early to judge | 19:16 |
| chopix | but the n9 interface was more "fluid" | 19:17 |
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| Venemo | chopix +1 | 19:21 |
| chopix | still better than android though | 19:22 |
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| ln- | what i'd miss from n9 is the always visible clock on screen. among other things. | 19:33 |
| chopix | i guess u need an oled display | 19:34 |
| chopix | for that | 19:34 |
| chopix | or goodbye battery | 19:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | chopix: sailfish is behind n9 in many ways, but its also not a dead end either | 19:40 |
| phlixi_ | right now i only see one actual advantage sailfish over n9, sailfish devices have properly working wlan ap | 19:42 |
| phlixi_ | that was really crappy on n9/00 (but was fine for me using bluetooth to get my laptop on the interwebs back then) | 19:43 |
| phlixi_ | of course, sailfish has a plus on the "potential" side :-) | 19:43 |
| phlixi_ | ...and even the wlan ap on the jp1301 has a nasty bug, once i deactivate it, every once in a while the phone just instantly reboots | 19:44 |
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