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| louisdk | Hi. Am I the only one who find the Jolla C to big and bulky? | 12:57 |
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| Yaniel | well I found the Jolla 1 a bit too big and bulky | 12:58 |
| Yaniel | (and sharp) | 12:58 |
| r0kk3rz | many discussions have been had on phone size | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | maaany | 12:59 |
| louisdk | My dream phone is still a 4" qwerty phone. | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | then make one | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | because nobody else is :P | 13:01 |
| suosaaski | louisdk: nokia e7 | 13:01 |
| mal- | I have a 3.7" qwerty phone with sailfish, a little old though | 13:01 |
| louisdk | suosaaski: outdated specs and closed bootloader. | 13:01 |
| louisdk | mal-: which one? :) | 13:02 |
| mal- | louisdk: xperia pro | 13:02 |
| suosaaski | louisdk: but it is 4" and qwerty :D | 13:02 |
| r0kk3rz | slap down €1000 for a neo900 | 13:03 |
| louisdk | r0kk3rz: doubt it's gonna run Sailfish :) | 13:04 |
| louisdk | mal-: impossible to find anywhere. How does it run with 512 mb ram? | 13:05 |
| r0kk3rz | it will if you make it? | 13:05 |
| tadzik | is it in a working state? | 13:05 |
| mal- | louisdk: reasonably ok, there are many people using it with sailfish, of course users must limit the number of apps they use so that it won't run out of memory | 13:07 |
| mal- | pretty much all features are supported but qwerty has some layout issues | 13:07 |
| * louisdk is considering swapping out his Jolla C for a Fairphone 2. | 13:08 | |
| r0kk3rz | you complain about size, and then think about an FP2? lol. | 13:09 |
| r0kk3rz | fp2 is bulkier than jolla c | 13:10 |
| mal- | fp2 is the same size as jolla c but thicker | 13:10 |
| louisdk | at least I don't need to protect the Fairphone with a case. And it has a better screen. | 13:11 |
| mal- | I'm the porter of sailfish for both the xperia pro and fp2 | 13:14 |
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| louisdk | If it breaks I can repair it myself unlike being screwed like with the Jolla C. | 13:15 |
| louisdk | mal-: does sfos run well on fp2? | 13:20 |
| abranson | i really want an fp2, but i think we really need a generally available sf phone in europe at a low price. for people to play with like raspberry pis. | 13:20 |
| abranson | i think each spare part for the fp2 costs more than a jolla C :) | 13:21 |
| tadzik | haha, probably :) | 13:21 |
| tadzik | fairphone sounds pretty cool, but is way above what I think is reasonable to pay for a phone | 13:21 |
| mal- | louisdk: in my opinion yes, still some bugs left | 13:22 |
| tadzik | I really had to fight myself to buy the original jolla | 13:22 |
| tadzik | the first new phone I ever bought too :P | 13:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | the price is reasonable, but doesnt mean you can afford it | 13:25 |
| tadzik | well, I can afford it, but I just wouldn't pay 500€ for a phone, even if it made me coffee, blowjobs and fried bacon | 13:27 |
| tadzik | every time I get a new mobile toy it just ends being my glorified alarm clock and a calendar | 13:27 |
| tadzik | and in recent years, car navigation | 13:28 |
| r0kk3rz | FP have released a full cost breakdown, saying why it costs what it does | 13:28 |
| abranson | i think it's a different level of interest. over 250 euros people are much less likely to buy a phone as something on a fancy, just to play with. | 13:29 |
| abranson | the price of the J1 meant you had to really want one to buy it | 13:29 |
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| tadzik | the cost breakdown is quite interesting indeed | 13:34 |
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| abranson | r0kk3rz: don't get me wrong, i think an fp2 is worth every penny. but we're not going to tempt hobbyists in with 600 euro phones. | 13:38 |
| mal- | abranson: so we need a raspberry phone :P | 13:39 |
| abranson | pretty much | 13:39 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: im using a very specific definition of 'reasonable', whether or not an individual wants to pay that much is entirely up to them | 13:39 |
| abranson | r0kk3rz: which will be different for a new long-term daily driver than for a casual foray to see what all this linux phone business is about. | 13:40 |
| r0kk3rz | the whole point of it, is that its a fair trade. if you're not on board with that then get something else | 13:41 |
| abranson | sure, i think it's marvellous | 13:41 |
| abranson | i think my point is really about the price of the jolla1, but it's just stressing a need for a cheap sailfish phone in the west. | 13:42 |
| evenfall | there isn't a SFOS option for FP2 is there? | 13:45 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: i guess we will see what this oysters device is like, if its sold outside russia | 13:46 |
| r0kk3rz | evenfall: theres a port for fp2 that works pretty good, first party support is pending | 13:48 |
| evenfall | r0kk3rz: the port is without aliendalvik, I presume | 13:49 |
| r0kk3rz | naturally | 13:49 |
| evenfall | yeah, well | 13:50 |
| mal- | a partially working sfdroid was made though for fp2 | 13:50 |
| tadzik | from what I heard they're planning for "full android support" in the fp2 port | 13:53 |
| tadzik | once it gets official, of course | 13:53 |
| tadzik | according to tweets :) | 13:53 |
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| mal- | tadzik: assuming it gets official | 13:54 |
| tadzik | I'd look up their tweet, but they spam too much and twitter search is garbage :) | 13:56 |
| tadzik | but it said something along of "we're looking to make android support available to all existing customers" or so | 13:57 |
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| coderus | !seen SfietKonstantin | 15:34 |
| merbot | coderus: SfietKonstantin was last seen in #jollamobile 7 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, 49 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <SfietKonstantin> or do you want to break your device ? :) | 15:34 |
| coderus | !seen SfietKonstantinW | 15:34 |
| merbot | coderus: SfietKonstantinW was last seen in #jollamobile 3 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 39 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <SfietKonstantinW> wings \o/ | 15:34 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: ? | 15:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | test | 15:37 |
| coderus | SfietKonstantinW: pplz want to update patchmanager with feature to unapply all patches, and master patch for calling this when pressing upgrade sfos button | 15:37 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: do you have a pull request ? | 15:38 |
| mal- | seems like patchmanager has some UI issues in 2.0.2, at least on fp2, I got some complain about that, the settings menu has incorrect icon sizes | 15:38 |
| coderus | no, but soon | 15:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah ? | 15:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 15:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I need to work on it again | 15:39 |
| coderus | you should be ready to build and release updated version :D | 15:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | mal-: will address this issue | 15:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: it is hooked on mer obs | 15:39 |
| SfietKonstantinW | will publish in openrepos if needed | 15:39 |
| coderus | oh cool, on tags as usual? | 15:39 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | yes | 15:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | basically all I need is accept MR | 15:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | tag | 15:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and done | 15:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 15:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and IIRC you have rights to accept mr and tag | 15:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | PR | 15:45 |
| coderus | yup | 15:45 |
| coderus | i can also update your package on openrepos :D | 15:46 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | ah ? | 15:52 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can ? | 15:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you have super mega admin righst ? | 15:53 |
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| coderus | kind of, i know a person who have :) | 16:01 |
| coderus | his number in my speed dial :D | 16:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :D | 16:01 |
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| phlixi_o | there is speed dial on irc? | 17:03 |
| phlixi_o | :D | 17:03 |
| phlixi_o | gn8^^ | 17:03 |
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