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TMavicaHong Kong is falling down with PokemonGo...07:01
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temmi_hooTMavica: the rhythm doesn't match up to london bridge melody08:57
r0kk3rzpokemon go, the app that triggered the downfall of civilisation08:59
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Nicd-wish I had Pokémon…09:03
r0kk3rzit works on Jolla C09:04
jaywalkr0kk3rz: it actually makes people walk out on the street and meet other people face to face, it may as well be the savour of civilisation!:)09:04
tadzikso aqua fish turns out to actually be cheaper, eh?09:04
Nicd-I don't have a Jolla C09:04
Nicd-and won't :P09:04
tadzikto me it feels a lot like geocaching but with virtual rewards :o09:05
ninnnuGeocaching with a lot less sticking your hand to weird places09:05
Nicd-and looking a lot less suspicious09:05
tadzik:)09:05
r0kk3rzand its really really popular straight away09:06
r0kk3rzwhich honestly helps the weirdness factor09:06
tigeliI would not be surprised if Niantic would start banning people playing Pokemon Go with non-supported devices (ios/android) as they did with Ingress09:06
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tadziklike a flash mob, eh09:06
r0kk3rztigeli: you'd think we would have seen that already...09:07
r0kk3rzbut maybe they're too busy trying to keep their servers from melting09:07
tigelir0kk3rz: it took few months with Jolla1 too09:07
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Hartzitigeli: ban permanently?09:08
r0kk3rztigeli: yeah it might take time to develop the signature, but i would have thought a Jolla C would appear much in the same way as a jphone09:08
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ppwasn't there some difference in LTE frequencies jolla c vs intex?09:10
ppif so, it might not be that much fun in Europe, despite being cheaper09:10
Nicd-Jolla C and Aqua Fish have provided a small boost in chatting for this channel: http://www.jottacloud.com/p/nicd/9f703711184f4cd7b3b6992f89e0138209:10
Nicd-well, estimated09:11
r0kk3rzNicd-: helps to actually have something to talk about09:11
Nicd-ggabriel still leading as the all time top chatter09:11
jaywalkanyone tried to install pokemon go on the jolla tablet?09:11
r0kk3rzpp: yeah it was said that jollac has different modem, but i guess check freqs with your carrier09:12
tigeliHartzi: well..until you contacted the support and promised that you play only with the supported devices09:12
Hartzitigeli: what's the point ban people like that?09:12
r0kk3rzHartzi: they think you're spoofing GPS and cheating09:13
tigeliHartzi: you would have to ask from Niantic.. however I would assume that they saw it as cheating09:13
Hartzilol :P09:13
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the_mgti wonder when hardware gps cheating devices become a thing09:13
tigeliand it does not help when you try to assure them that it's "100%" android vm where it is running09:13
the_mgtlike a small gps override unite, with more powerful signal than that from satelites09:14
the_mgtI should patent and mass market that, maybe09:14
r0kk3rzthe_mgt: pretty sure thats illegal09:14
tigeliand Niantic also banned Android-users which used to mock location through the developer mode api's ;)09:14
lainwir3do/09:15
r0kk3rzi would guess there is a similarity between 'mock locations' and the way sailfish feeds dalvik gps coords09:15
Dotti_the_mgt: http://www.rtl-sdr.com/cheating-at-pokemon-go-with-a-hackrf-and-09:16
Dotti_gps-spoofing/09:16
Dotti_http://www.rtl-sdr.com/cheating-at-pokemon-go-with-a-hackrf-and-gps-spoofing/09:16
Renaultdo you install APK though Google Play?09:16
Renaultmy wife has a Galaxy Note 2, Android KitKat and other requirements valid09:17
Renaultbut Google Play say: device not compatible09:17
Renaultno problem with manual APK09:17
tigeliRenault: does it have 2GB memory?09:17
Renaultyes09:18
the_mgtDotti_: damn, too late to the party09:18
Renaultmany people complaints about that on the Internet09:18
tigeliRenault: get a new device ;)09:19
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Renaultit's planned the next year, for the moment, manual APK09:21
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ggabrielNicd-: I haven't said much here for a while :P09:27
ggabrielalso, I'm quite busy lately with boring stuff :'(09:27
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Nicd-ggabriel: but you did before! and that's what counts :)09:36
Nicd-gan and r0kk3rz are the talkers of the last 30 days09:36
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r0kk3rzunsurprisingly, gan doesnt like to have more than 4 words per line09:38
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Nicd-here you go: http://ircstats.nytsoi.net/jollamobile.html10:01
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kimmoli19 kimmoli 3887 "i definetily dont know what i'm doing"10:17
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sakustar:D accurate quote10:23
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eugenioouch. Got my Jolla C but the italian customs made me pay VAT another time >.<10:27
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SQUelchereugenio: German customs were satisfied with the vat receipt from the Jolla store10:32
SQUelcherI've ranted about them too early ;)10:32
eugenioprobably they overlooked mine, I forwarded the receipt as asked via SMS10:37
eugeniobut then they recalculated VAT on the already taxed amount10:37
Armadilloand you payed it?10:45
Armadilloon my TNT delivery sheet there was a "Sender pays" mark10:45
Armadillomaybe you can refer to something like that, too10:45
eugenioyes, had to pay it10:48
eugenioVAT + customs fee10:48
eugenio75€ total10:48
eugeniocould have bought an aqua fish with that10:48
eugenio:D10:49
Armadilloyour government will appreciate it :P10:49
eugenioit sure does10:50
eugenioI hope to at least recover the wrongly applied VAT10:50
Armadillogood luck ;)10:52
eugeniothanks, given that we are talking about the italian customs I guess I really need it.10:53
eugeniothe device seems nice though :)10:54
Armadillo:)10:57
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phlixi_oseems everybody gets the jolla c11:20
phlixi_o...i wonder when i will getr mine :-(11:20
phlixi_oiirc they said "will be in your hands in july" (or similar)11:21
tbrand you made the mistake of believing a notorious liar? ;-þ11:25
jaywalkI got my Jolla C about a week ago, I haven't gotten my hands on it though, it arrived in Stockholm about 1.5 hours after I left and won't get back for another week or two11:29
jaywalkso will have to do without for a bit longer.:) was only planning on using it as a sailfish testing platform anyway so no big rush!11:29
phlixi_oat least you got one, and you know it will be there once you get back :-=)11:30
jaywalkis the price of the aquafish really what it seem to be like on ebay.in from intex? I calculate it to ~75 EUR with xe.com - even with vat and customs that's cheaper than I expected11:30
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Yanielafaik yes11:33
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phlixi_onote that the bands are different from jolla c11:36
r0kk3rzplus its stamped with an ugly intex logo rather than a super cool limited edition logo11:36
coderuswhat? phlixi_o>note that the bands are different from jolla c11:38
coderusdifferent hw or fw?11:38
TMavicacoderus: have u got JollaC?11:39
Yanieldidn't james say something about jollac and aqua fish actually supporting the same bands11:41
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r0kk3rzcarsten said they were different11:42
NaranekI tried to order the aqua fish, but ebay/paisapay wants me to email them additional docs as verification that I actually own the card :/11:43
temmi_hooi like led zeppelin a lot, is it among the supported bands?11:43
tadzikayy!11:44
Stskeepstemmi_hoo: only nine inch nails and britney spears11:45
kimmolihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow11:45
temmi_hoonin are occasionally tolerable11:45
r0kk3rzStskeeps: at the same time? i mean there have been some weird mashups...11:46
Nicd-weird mashups remind me of: https://soundcloud.com/professorkliq/the-cha-cha-hast11:47
r0kk3rzNicd-: i was more thinking of this one https://soundcloud.com/scottrek/call-me-a-hole-pomdeter11:48
r0kk3rzNIN with "Call Me Maybe"11:48
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coderusTMavica: tomorrow :)12:12
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taaemCan I change my account.jolla.com username? I don't want to recreate my account...12:34
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TMavicacoderus: good13:50
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sakustarNicd-: wat.. could have lived without clicking that link14:48
sakustar:'D14:48
Nicd-cha cha hast?14:49
Nicd-but it's the best14:49
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sakustarwhere can i get a 32gb mem card for >=15 eur? :(20:53
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sakustarisnt 32 max for jolla joh20:53
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ppyou need to format as non-fat for bigger cards, that's all20:54
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kimmolisakustar: >15e ? i found one for 23,90€21:07
pavisakustar: format with other filesystem it would be supported by Linux21:07
paviThe 32 was a limit for eFat which is windows junk21:08
pavisakustar: There is a nice guide for which cards to buy at https://together.jolla.com/question/34087/wiki-microsd-microsdhc-microsdxc-card/21:09
pavi^^ It also includes how to format tips.21:10
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r0kk3rzsakustar: id beware the cheap ones, theres a lot of counterfeit sd cards around these days21:23
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sakustaridk if they have those at stores in finland yet :p23:32
sakustarcounterfeits23:33
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