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| sobukus | Did anyone successfully record videos over 4 GiB in size with the Jolla Phone? I copied one with 5.8 GiB size from the phone and it's corrupt around 70 % of the runtime … | 06:25 |
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| sobukus | This is a bit frustrating, as I also cannot influcence quality settings to ensure that I can record an hour of video. | 06:25 |
| Bysmyyr | did you recorded it directly to memorycard? | 06:27 |
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| sobukus | Bysmyyr: No, I only found hacks people had to employ to be able to do that. | 06:58 |
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| sobukus | Bysmyyr: I didn't tinker yet with formatting the sd card with something else than fat32, which of course also would have problems with long videos. | 06:59 |
| pp_ | hmn, doesn't fat32 have a 4G maximum file size | 06:59 |
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| sobukus | I am now wondering if this is a general issue or only my test recording got corrupted during transfer. But the error is too close to the omnious 4 GiB … | 06:59 |
| sobukus | pp_: Yes, that's because I wouldn't be surprised if this failed on the sd card. | 07:00 |
| sobukus | But this is internal phone memory (btrfs?). | 07:00 |
| sobukus | Meh, and I cannot tell the camera to just record 720p to safe space. | 07:01 |
| sobukus | save space | 07:01 |
| Bysmyyr | try again if it happens every time | 07:01 |
| sobukus | I feared that. But since there is something important to record very soon, I may not have time for trial runs … | 07:02 |
| sobukus | Sucks that my proper camera is not allowe to record more than 25 minutes straight because of customs rules. | 07:02 |
| Armadillo | maybe you have a btrfs issue because running out of disk space if you record such a large video? | 07:02 |
| sobukus | There was still 1.1 GiB free. | 07:03 |
| Armadillo | well, that's no guarantee | 07:03 |
| sobukus | Huh? | 07:03 |
| Armadillo | I had 3GB left and already had major issues | 07:03 |
| Armadillo | btrfs-calander allocation could give you further information | 07:04 |
| Armadillo | admn | 07:04 |
| Armadillo | btrfs-balancer allocation | 07:04 |
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| Armadillo | this is the correct one, sorry | 07:04 |
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| sobukus | Total: 14763950080 bytes | 07:08 |
| sobukus | Used: 14763950080 bytes | 07:08 |
| sobukus | Allocated: 100 % | 07:08 |
| sobukus | Hm. | 07:08 |
| sobukus | Is that good? | 07:08 |
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| sobukus | Does this just mean that all space is allocated to partitions/file systems/volumes? | 07:08 |
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| sobukus | Armadillo: Seems like I got random data from the disk/flash at the end. The last bytes: | 07:11 |
| sobukus | 16ecf7eb8 2f 72 64 66 3a 52 44 46 3e 0a 3c 2f 78 3a 78 6d |/rdf:RDF>.</x:xm| | 07:11 |
| sobukus | 16ecf7ec8 70 6d 65 74 61 3e 0a 3c 3f 78 70 61 63 6b 65 74 |pmeta>.<?xpacket| | 07:12 |
| sobukus | 16ecf7ed8 20 65 6e 64 3d 22 72 22 3f 3e | end="r"?>| | 07:12 |
| Armadillo | this is not good | 07:12 |
| sobukus | That ain't video. | 07:12 |
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| Armadillo | try btrfs-balancer balance | 07:12 |
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| sobukus | Hm, I tried that and my phone disconnected (USB network connection). | 07:12 |
| sobukus | It turned off. | 07:13 |
| Armadillo | whoops^^ | 07:13 |
| Armadillo | although I had major issues that never happened to mine :D | 07:14 |
| sobukus | What would a sane output of the balancer allocation be? | 07:14 |
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| sobukus | Armadillo: OK, not that I blame you … but got any tips on un-bricking my Jolla phone now? | 07:16 |
| * sobukus tries to start up a second time | 07:17 | |
| Armadillo | something like that: http://pastebin.com/3vCb06Xa | 07:17 |
| Armadillo | Oo | 07:17 |
| sobukus | Hm, I only have black screen and white status LED | 07:18 |
| Armadillo | maybe remove the battery for some seconds | 07:18 |
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| Armadillo | and disconnect usb | 07:18 |
| sobukus | Thing is, it tries to boot. I see the jolla logo screen. Then black. | 07:18 |
| sobukus | USB is disconnected:-/ | 07:19 |
| Armadillo | :( | 07:19 |
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| Armadillo | that's really strange as the allocation only is a lookup command | 07:19 |
| sobukus | Well, the balance command is not. | 07:20 |
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| sobukus | Hm, I got a backup from a month ago. A bunch of ini and sql files. I hope I can recover using them. | 07:22 |
| * sobukus trying btrfs recovery | 07:24 | |
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| Armadillo | hm | 07:26 |
| Armadillo | the btrfs thing really is a mess :/ | 07:27 |
| sobukus | I don't see any reaction after pressing '5' for btrfs recovery … wondering if it's stuck right there? | 07:29 |
| sobukus | Trying to moint /dev/mmcblk0p28 hangs. | 07:33 |
| sobukus | mount | 07:33 |
| Armadillo | not good | 07:33 |
| sobukus | And why the heck are there 28 partitions? | 07:33 |
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| Armadillo | https://together.jolla.com/question/73206/solved-bricked-11127-unable-to-mount-mmcblk0p28-for-backup/ | 07:35 |
| Armadillo | maybe this helps | 07:35 |
| sobukus | Yeah, I was aiming for btrfs check now. | 07:37 |
| sobukus | cache and super generation don't match, space cache will be invalidated | 07:38 |
| sobukus | Counts for qgroup id: 264 are different | 07:38 |
| sobukus | Check worked, I can mount now. But it still claims 12.2 GiB used, but I deleted the video and should have > 6 GiB free. | 07:39 |
| * sobukus notes that it sucks that user data craps on the system partition. | 07:39 | |
| Armadillo | :) | 07:41 |
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| sobukus | Hm, selecting reboot has it hanging with red LED. Meh. | 07:44 |
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| sobukus | mv: can't rename '/mnt/rec-20160527_075542_@': Read-only file system | 07:56 |
| sobukus | [WARNING] Could not restore rootfs subvolume! | 07:56 |
| sobukus | mv: can't rename '/mnt/rec-20160527_075542_@home': Read-only file system | 07:56 |
| sobukus | [WARNING] Could not restore home subvolume! | 07:56 |
| sobukus | I sense that this is not good. | 07:56 |
| Armadillo | I think you dhould contact Jolla support :/ | 08:01 |
| sobukus | [ 63.861315] WARNING: at fs/btrfs/super.c:221 __btrfs_abort_transaction+0x38/0x98() | 08:04 |
| sobukus | [ 63.861834] BTRFS error (device mmcblk0p28) in find_free_extent:5803: error 28 | 08:04 |
| sobukus | [ 63.874011] kernel BUG at fs/btrfs/relocation.c:2278! | 08:05 |
| sobukus | This is sweet. | 08:05 |
| sobukus | Not sure if this points to hardware issues, but the filesystem is borked. | 08:05 |
| tbr | back up your data if you haven't yet, procure a copy of a clean btrfs, inject through recovery | 08:08 |
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| sobukus | tbr: Those are some interesting tasks … I guess I have a project for the weekend:-( | 08:11 |
| tbr | there are people™ in here who have such copies and could provide them to you AFAIU | 08:12 |
| sobukus | tbr: I'll make sure to ask when I'm back with the time … and also ask about how I should shove the data onto the device. | 08:12 |
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| sobukus | tbr: About those people with system images … any chance I can get one from an official (perhaps even trusted) source? I found a download link, but it's a random site on the webs and I don't feel like putting that onto my personal phone … | 10:50 |
| pp_ | redundant array of users can sha1sum their recovery partition (which should be identical?) | 10:52 |
| tbr | sobukus: I don't have one, but someone here might. | 10:52 |
| tbr | note that the factory reset partition will depend on the base version of the firmware it contains, obviously. So there probably are several | 10:53 |
| sobukus | So the proper way to deal with this would be to send the phone to Jolla for repair? | 10:54 |
| pp_ | yup | 10:54 |
| sobukus | Would I have to pay for that, given that warranty period might be over? | 10:54 |
| pp_ | ... and wait | 10:55 |
| sobukus | I wonder if the recovery snapshot volume (or whatever, not that accustomed to btrfs) might be salvage from my device. | 10:55 |
| sobukus | I'd then have to recreate a fresh btrfs and extract into this. | 10:56 |
| sobukus | Would that possibly work? | 10:56 |
| sobukus | … if only the "normal" filesystem data written since last recovery/update is broken … | 10:57 |
| pp_ | hmn, if you get a shell and your recovery volume is fine, you should be able to use that? | 11:00 |
| pp_ | mmcblk0p28 | 11:00 |
| M4rtinK | I think it would be good idea to ask some questions: does "Jolla C use btrfs" ? and "Will flashable images be available?" | 11:00 |
| pp_ | mine seems to be 1.0.0.5 (most are), the recovery image mostly found on the internet is 1.0.8.19 | 11:01 |
| M4rtinK | any takers or should I do that (on Together) ? | 11:01 |
| TMavica | Can the ambience installed in Jolla 1, use in Jolla C? | 11:01 |
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| cvp | TMavica: why not, on ported sfos phone works too | 11:03 |
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| * sobukus wonders what Jolla C is | 11:05 | |
| sobukus | pp_: You mean restore the recovery volume directly? I guess that is what the recovery routine tries … it fails in preparation, though, trying to delete things. | 11:06 |
| sobukus | As the fs drops into read-only mode because of errors, the normal recovery fails. | 11:06 |
| sobukus | So I wonder that I might be able to _extract_ the recovery in a tar file. | 11:06 |
| Skooz | The intex aqua fish released in Europe in a batch of 1000 as a community developer phone. | 11:06 |
| Skooz | sold out yesterday within a few hours. | 11:07 |
| Skooz | (the Jolla C that is) | 11:08 |
| sobukus | Hm, doesn't look like a necessary upgrade hardware-wise. I hope support for the old phone is not ending so quickly. | 11:08 |
| TMavica | cvp: I mean the wallpaper can fit the 5' display | 11:09 |
| TMavica | Lower resolution ? | 11:09 |
| phlixi_o | sobukus you will not find an "official image" from an "trusted" or "official" server. i think common understanding why there is no official download is license of some blobs, which seem to not allow jolla to offer an image for download | 11:10 |
| cvp | TMavica: i know what you mean. i use Oneplus X with SFOS and dont think that the porter change the resolution from the wallpapers. | 11:10 |
| cvp | it haves 5" | 11:10 |
| phlixi_o | either send it to jolla for "repair", then they will flash it, or download one of the "shady" images (well, check the checksums^) | 11:11 |
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| sobukus | phlixi_o: There are non-shady checksums someplace? | 11:12 |
| cvp | TMavica: if you like, i can install the Black Ambient from my jolla to the Oneplusx and we will se what hapen. The OPX has FullHD Display | 11:12 |
| cvp | more than the Jolla C Display :) | 11:12 |
| phlixi_o | sobukus: let m eknow once you found them :) | 11:12 |
| sobukus | Ah, good. | 11:12 |
| TMavica | 👍 | 11:12 |
| Skooz | pictures just get scaled. I'm using an ambience with a 50x50 pixel image. | 11:13 |
| Skooz | (just to try it - it looks awful) | 11:13 |
| Helle | I want the old scrolling ambiance thing, I had awesome "too tall" images | 11:14 |
| Skooz | Oh yea, this is on a 1920x1080 nexus 5 display | 11:15 |
| phlixi_o | and there is some logic which part is shown in case the aspect ratio does not match, i guess its related to rotation... took a while until i had the image i wanted as background... | 11:15 |
| Skooz | I gried a few before realising it needs to be a square of side equal to the longest axis pixel count. | 11:16 |
| cvp | TMavica: so i install now the Kaira Black into OPX, no problems with the resolutions :) | 11:16 |
| Skooz | triex* | 11:16 |
| Skooz | tried** | 11:16 |
| cvp | only the colors looks much better than on jolla :D | 11:17 |
| Skooz | hehe | 11:17 |
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| ced117 | Hello there, maybe someone can answer my questions | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | you can try | 19:28 |
| ced117 | does the Jolla C have a NFC chip ? And what about an extension port ? | 19:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | i dont see anything in the specs to indicate such a thing | 19:29 |
| ced117 | yes, already checked also, but we never know ;) | 19:30 |
| ced117 | i love the TOHs too much... damn. | 19:31 |
| ced117 | :) | 19:31 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah it will be interesting to see what happens with the fp2 | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | usb expansion port offers a lot more possibillities than i2c | 19:32 |
| attah | yeah.. just slightly too much hassle for average joe | 19:33 |
| ced117 | i really hope there is some port like this on the jolla c | 19:33 |
| ced117 | sadly... | 19:34 |
| attah | i'd have been soo happy with an UART | 19:34 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah there isnt | 19:34 |
| r0kk3rz | we've seen pictures of the outside and behind battery cover, so mysterious ports | 19:34 |
| r0kk3rz | *no | 19:34 |
| attah | otg/host mode might be there, or? | 19:36 |
| ced117 | you saw pictures from behind the battery cover of the jolla c ? | 19:36 |
| ced117 | good question also | 19:36 |
| r0kk3rz | ced117: jolla c is intex phone in disguise | 19:36 |
| r0kk3rz | although its a fairly thin disguise | 19:36 |
| ced117 | maybe, but we dont know exactly if they changed something in it or not | 19:37 |
| r0kk3rz | not for 170€ they didnt | 19:37 |
| ced117 | we never know | 19:37 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah keep dreaming :) | 19:39 |
| nh1402 | I asked about NFC in tjc but no answer | 19:39 |
| ced117 | yep saw a question about that ! | 19:39 |
| ced117 | i'm "following" it already | 19:40 |
| kimmoli | well, we know on 17th | 19:40 |
| nh1402 | fm radio isn't in the spec sheet but it does come with one, which is my reasoning for the question. | 19:41 |
| ced117 | :-) | 19:41 |
| r0kk3rz | that might be because the software doesnt yet support it | 19:42 |
| r0kk3rz | like the whole BLE thing | 19:43 |
| nh1402 | the fm radio?, there's an fm radio app cover in screenshots | 19:43 |
| r0kk3rz | yes its clearly in the works | 19:44 |
| r0kk3rz | but who knows how finished it is | 19:44 |
| attah | do we know the criteria for being invited for the event? | 19:45 |
| r0kk3rz | first 50 wasnt it? | 19:45 |
| r0kk3rz | you know the date, if you want to go just turn up and flash the jphone at the door | 19:46 |
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| attah | I'm invited.. but SWE->FIN is much more of a hassle than it should be | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | attah: they question you at the border for being a spy? | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:48 |
| attah | attah: Not even when i went to china for work with a motorola c123 (osmcomm-bb) with misc cables soldered on | 19:49 |
| jaywalk | attah: I'm in Sweden too and haven't decided if I should try to show up or not | 19:49 |
| jaywalk | would probably be a nice trip! | 19:50 |
| speactra_ | attah, jaywalk same here, would be fun though | 19:50 |
| attah | definitely! | 19:50 |
| r0kk3rz | do other swedes look at you funny if you say you want to go to finland? | 19:50 |
| jaywalk | r0kk3rz: nope! but they do when I tell them I'm half-finnish :) | 19:51 |
| attah | apparently i forgot how to irc: Stskeeps isn't me :S | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | the plot thickens | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:52 |
| attah | haha | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | jaywalk: heh fair enough | 19:52 |
| jaywalk | attah: atleast you know who you are, that's always a good start!;) | 19:52 |
| attah | jaywalk: on a good day ;) | 19:52 |
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| attah | one problem though.. i don't have a laptop worth bringing.. and I imagine that it's kinda recommended | 19:57 |
| jaywalk | attah: quick fingers and a tohkbd works too.:) | 20:01 |
| attah | jaywalk: tablet and external keyboard ^^ | 20:02 |
| jaywalk | or as i am currently on: a jolla tablet and a frogpad (duckduckgo it:)! | 20:02 |
| jaywalk | attah: ^ | 20:02 |
| attah | not bad | 20:02 |
| jaywalk | its starting to show its age but was a very good design and idea for its time | 20:03 |
| jaywalk | pondering if i should design my own copy as this one is bound to break down and they don't make new ones | 20:04 |
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| jaywalk | ... and possibly add dedicated åäö keys in the process:) | 20:05 |
| r0kk3rz | ah doug englebarts dream | 20:06 |
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| jaywalk | attah: a very good choice! that's a keybord i'll always miss. | 20:10 |
| jaywalk | s/bord/board/ | 20:10 |
| attah | yup | 20:12 |
| attah | it's this or a macbook air 2010 that i'd need to update/linuxify | 20:12 |
| jaywalk | I know which one I would've picked:) | 20:13 |
| attah | too bad worksation and 32'' display is not something you take in a backpack | 20:15 |
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| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: there is also piratefm which works :D | 20:23 |
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| r0kk3rz | will be cool to have a phone with fm radio again | 20:51 |
| r0kk3rz | useful for when i go to races | 20:51 |
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| nh1402 | r0kk3rz: formula 1? | 21:23 |
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| pdanek | whattttttttttttttt | 21:37 |
| pdanek | Jolla C? | 21:37 |
| pdanek | where do I preorder? | 21:37 |
| phlixi_ | to late | 21:37 |
| pdanek | ohhhhhhh | 21:38 |
| pdanek | noooooo | 21:38 |
| phlixi_ | :/ | 21:38 |
| pdanek | shit | 21:38 |
| altker128 | Yeah, sucks. | 21:38 |
| phlixi_ | but hey, you wouldnt be happy with only 2gb ram, wouldnt you? | 21:38 |
| pdanek | :D | 21:39 |
| pdanek | good point | 21:39 |
| pdanek | but 2 is better than 1 | 21:39 |
| phlixi_ | true | 21:39 |
| altker128 | Galaxy S4 only has 2GB | 21:39 |
| pdanek | is that going to be different from Aqua Fish? | 21:39 |
| pdanek | or exactly same hardware? | 21:39 |
| speactra | pdanek: probably exactly the same | 21:40 |
| phlixi_ | afaik nothing official, but pretty sure its identical hardware except a sticker on the back or something like that | 21:40 |
| pdanek | what will be sooner | 21:41 |
| pdanek | Jolla C or Aqua Fish? | 21:41 |
| speactra | pdanek: jolla c will ship in july so problably it | 21:41 |
| phlixi_ | but would be silly to not "just get 1k from 'your oem'" and instead make something different AND then limit to 1k | 21:41 |
| altker128 | Anyone looked at getting SailfishOS on the Ubuntu Touch variant of the MeizuPro5 ? I would expect that to be reasonable since Touch uses libhybris | 21:42 |
| phlixi_ | you can get one in 2 weeks if you show up in person | 21:42 |
| phlixi_ | Time: Friday June 17, 2016, 3pm. | 21:43 |
| phlixi_ | ...helsinki | 21:43 |
| Milo- | shame about the bigger display on C-type :/ | 21:43 |
| pdanek | so you think Aqua Fish will start selling later than Jolla C? | 21:43 |
| Milo- | a smaller would have been nicer. | 21:43 |
| speactra | phlixi_: i think that is only for those who managed to order the phone. if you didn't buy it you wont get one there either | 21:43 |
| pdanek | I need whatever is soonest | 21:43 |
| pdanek | I'm now few months with Android | 21:43 |
| pdanek | and it's pain | 21:43 |
| phlixi_ | speactra: yes of course, but if you ordered, it is possible to get it in 2 weeks, instead of getting it shipped in july | 21:44 |
| pdanek | btw | 21:44 |
| pdanek | why would they get just 1000? | 21:44 |
| phlixi_ | pdanek maybe i have a jolla1 for sale, including unused first one toh and barly used kbdtoh2 (well, maybe in july) | 21:45 |
| pdanek | Jolla 1 has 1GB ram | 21:45 |
| pdanek | can't use it anymore | 21:45 |
| pdanek | just can't | 21:45 |
| phlixi_ | i knew you dont want it.. | 21:45 |
| pdanek | my health is just one | 21:45 |
| pdanek | 1GB ram had impact on my health | 21:46 |
| pdanek | :D | 21:46 |
| phlixi_ | ^^ | 21:46 |
| pdanek | whyyyyyyyyy did I miss Jolla C | 21:46 |
| pdanek | no email from jolla.com, nothing | 21:46 |
| phlixi_ | didnt read your mail? | 21:46 |
| pdanek | nothing in mail | 21:46 |
| phlixi_ | it was anounced last week | 21:46 |
| pdanek | last email I have from jolla.com is: Sailfish OS update Taalojärvi available now! | 21:47 |
| pdanek | was it only for The First Ones? | 21:47 |
| phlixi_ | it was probably from community@jolla.com to devel@lists.sailfishos.org | 21:48 |
| phlixi_ | no for devel@lists.sailfishos.org | 21:48 |
| pdanek | right! | 21:49 |
| pdanek | what do I do now | 21:49 |
| phlixi_ | if you really want one, maybe someone on this channel who ordered one doesnt want it any longer and you might get it from him or her; thus keep your eyes open? | 21:50 |
| phlixi_ | check ebay in july? | 21:50 |
| pdanek | MESSAGE TO CITIZENS OF THIS CHANNEL | 21:51 |
| phlixi_ | i am sure someone is looking for bargain and ordered one for guys like you :-) | 21:51 |
| pdanek | hmm | 21:51 |
| pdanek | will it have Android support? | 21:52 |
| phlixi_ | have a short dial for this one... | 21:52 |
| phlixi_ | There is https://jolla.com/jollac and the first thing mentioned there on the spec sheet is: "Operating system Pure Sailfish OS 2.0 compatible with Android™ apps" I think this leaves no doubt, that "pure" means "no third party vendor crap preinstalled" in contrast to "no androd support" | 21:52 |
| pdanek | oh ok :D | 21:52 |
| phlixi_ | :) | 21:52 |
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| pdanek | What's your guess on Aqua Fish availability? | 21:53 |
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| phlixi_ | i think its the only reason to currently buy a device with sailfish on it (besides supporting jolla, but they said they wont profit from the device sales), because of ports to nice other devices | 21:54 |
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| phlixi_ | i am pretty sure it will come soon, to india, since i bet its manufactured in the same run. but there is a theory, that jollac is the first batch, and maybe next batch (probably more fixes) is aquafish | 21:55 |
| phlixi_ | ...but i think its unlikely to have a beta batch of 1000. on the other hand i am not in that business. | 21:55 |
| pdanek | I need alpha batch! | 21:55 |
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| pdanek | whatever they have | 21:55 |
| pdanek | throw it at me | 21:55 |
| pdanek | I buy two | 21:55 |
| pdanek | I can get shipping from India too | 21:56 |
| phlixi_ | then i guess you wont have no bad sideeffects from geting an aquafish instead of a jollac | 21:56 |
| phlixi_ | i asume the intex one comes with snapdeal extra software or whatever similar stuff one probably does not want on it, but there might be ways to get rid of it? | 21:57 |
| pdanek | yes, it will come with something they call "superapps" | 21:58 |
| pdanek | it will be accessed by swiping to sides | 21:58 |
| phlixi_ | yep, that i meant | 21:58 |
| pdanek | and integrated to the system | 21:58 |
| phlixi_ | silly name "superapps" i think | 21:59 |
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| pdanek | WTB Jolla C, please PM me, anyone | 22:05 |
| pdanek | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96779 | 22:05 |
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| pdanek | seriously | 22:14 |
| pdanek | I need it | 22:14 |
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