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| chem|st | for all who like, I'd like to call a storm https://twitter.com/dostortugas/status/733245688524443648 | 11:00 |
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| Venemo_j | oh my | 11:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | chem|st: is this even possible for them to do? | 11:16 |
| ggabriel | anything is possible | 11:17 |
| ggabriel | if you apply an agile methodology :P | 11:17 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: nokia did neither sell Maemo codebase nor anything attached, just the brand has been transfered to Maemo Community e.V. | 11:20 |
| pp_ | we want GTK and .deb back! | 11:22 |
| Jope | harmattan without aegis! ;-) | 11:22 |
| r0kk3rz | chem|st: "didnt sell" isnt the same as "still has", as well as things like the people to continue developing + modernising | 11:23 |
| Helle | pp_: I mostly want a balanced keyboard back | 11:24 |
| Helle | pp_: my N900 I used a ton for just typing out stuff | 11:24 |
| Helle | the keyboard TOH is nice, but it is unbalanced as hell | 11:25 |
| Helle | and with my tiny hands, that really limits how much I can use it | 11:25 |
| ballock | and xorg! :p | 11:26 |
| ggabriel | you can still buy an n900 in amazon btw | 11:27 |
| Helle | ballock: which I actually used sometimes amazingly | 11:28 |
| Helle | ggabriel: kind of tempted to buy a used one, as a mobile terminal, more so then a phone | 11:28 |
| Helle | my old one needs a lot of work to be usable again | 11:28 |
| ggabriel | but used one will have all the tx/rx components used out | 11:29 |
| ggabriel | well, the modem tends to break | 11:29 |
| ggabriel | wlan related functions tend to last a lot longer | 11:29 |
| ggabriel | https://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronics-Nokia-N900-Mobile-Computer-Software/dp/B002QEBX5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1463657393&sr=8-1&keywords=nokia+n900 | 11:30 |
| ggabriel | the price never ceases to amaze me | 11:30 |
| r0kk3rz | imo it would be more likely for them to release sailfish phone than maemo/meego phone | 11:30 |
| ggabriel | never goes down... like good old nintendo games | 11:30 |
| chem|st | Jope: +1 | 11:30 |
| tadzik | oh wow | 11:31 |
| Helle | I wish I did what I was originally planning for a Keyboard TOH design and move the battery into the keyboard and use robust sliders, I mean it would have added design difficulty | 11:31 |
| tadzik | looking at the screenshots on amazon almost makes me want to buy another one of these | 11:31 |
| Helle | but right now, I rarely use it.... | 11:32 |
| ggabriel | tadzik: the first line of the description <3 | 11:32 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: lots of M5 stuff is reverseengineered by maemo devs foss stuff got updated or is even still getting updated | 11:32 |
| tadzik | ggabriel: yeah :D | 11:33 |
| ballock | other topic: some android devs claim my Jolla/Alien Dalvik improperly advertises that it answers to market:// links, while I don't have Google Play, just F-Droid. | 11:33 |
| chem|st | Helle: you can get those flex-ribbons quiet cheap | 11:33 |
| Helle | chem|st: the main issue is the sliders | 11:34 |
| Helle | chem|st: and my mechanical engineering skills are on the weak side | 11:34 |
| Helle | kind of waiting for a newer phone to do it to now | 11:34 |
| Helle | either Jolla, or something I can put SailfishOS on atleast | 11:34 |
| chem|st | Helle: I think you can get the N900 mechanics as spares still, that would be screw in and done | 11:35 |
| Helle | chem|st: oh, you mean that, no, my N900's (plural) have USB connector issues like most | 11:35 |
| chem|st | Helle: that is easy to fix | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | unfortunately another phone with TOH or TOH like feature seems unlikely | 11:35 |
| chem|st | the µUSB in n900 can be soldered by hand | 11:35 |
| Helle | chem|st: well, not for me :( | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | fp2 being the only exception | 11:35 |
| chem|st | Helle: send them to me and I will fix em up when I got time | 11:36 |
| Helle | r0kk3rz: yeah, custom case for a FP2 or something | 11:36 |
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| Helle | chem|st: Germany right ? that is actually something I need to consider then | 11:36 |
| chem|st | I have one of the rare n900 where the port never broke | 11:36 |
| chem|st | Helle: yes | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | Helle: if size is your concern then fp2 probably isnt the best, its a big brick | 11:36 |
| chem|st | Helle: where are you at? | 11:36 |
| Helle | chem|st: Die Niederlande | 11:37 |
| Helle | r0kk3rz: heck, my basic thought was to just take any random phone that runs SailfishOS community port and just completely replace the case | 11:37 |
| Helle | r0kk3rz: the N900 was fine size-wise, I can deal with a brick, it lives in my purse anyway | 11:37 |
| chem|st | Helle: maybe someone closer to you can help, check with dirkvl for example | 11:37 |
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| dirkvl | que? | 11:38 |
| chem|st | Helle: you think of doing your own case but you are unable to solder your µUSBs? | 11:38 |
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| chem|st | dirkvl: broken µUSB on n900s for a beer in view | 11:39 |
| r0kk3rz | Helle: fp2 is probably best if you want to replace the whole case, other things tend to be glued together these days | 11:39 |
| chem|st | *fixing | 11:39 |
| Helle | chem|st: more, for some reason I fail at the micro-USB on N900s, I've replaced bunches of them on other stuff | 11:39 |
| Helle | chem|st: idk, might be bad luck or something | 11:39 |
| chem|st | Helle: did you destroy the solderpads? | 11:39 |
| Helle | chem|st: on one and then I stopped trying | 11:39 |
| Helle | chem|st: still have two other broken ones | 11:40 |
| chem|st | ok, maybe the second can be repaired then | 11:40 |
| Helle | (yeah, I am one of those people) | 11:40 |
| chem|st | a two others... | 11:40 |
| chem|st | well I got a bunch of hardware just at my desk... but not so many n900s :) | 11:40 |
| chem|st | but my n900 is alive and now got a simcard to be reused! | 11:41 |
| chem|st | and hell do I miss that keyboard in daily usage | 11:42 |
| Helle | quite | 11:43 |
| tadzik | reminds me to write that t9 keyboard for jolla, heh | 11:44 |
| tadzik | but yeah, that n900 keyboard was kickass | 11:44 |
| chem|st | *is | 11:45 |
| Helle | tadzik: well, not just the keyboard, the problem the TOH keyboard has, is that it is unbalanced | 11:45 |
| chem|st | tadzik: and yes, t9 kbd and stuff would at least cover the one-hand cornercase | 11:45 |
| Helle | so you need big hands (which I lack) to keep it steady, or else the lever effect will make it a pain | 11:45 |
| tadzik | chem|st: without the proper hardware qwerty keyboard, one-hand is not my cornercase :) | 11:46 |
| chem|st | Helle: put some weight on? | 11:46 |
| tadzik | Helle: ah, I see. I never got to use the tohmbd | 11:46 |
| chem|st | tadzik: true | 11:46 |
| tadzik | hnng | 11:46 |
| tadzik | kdbdnd | 11:46 |
| chem|st | "&§$? | 11:46 |
| tadzik | tyinp is hardo tay | 11:46 |
| tadzik | god dmanit | 11:46 |
| ggabriel | tadzik: do you need a tohkbd? :P | 11:47 |
| tadzik | I clearly need a stronger tea | 11:47 |
| tadzik | (plot twist: I'm actually at my laptop) | 11:47 |
| tadzik | you'd know that I'm typing on a jolla if.every.space.was.a.dot.instead | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:47 |
| Helle | tadzik: yes.... | 11:47 |
| tadzik | this is such a nice trademark | 11:48 |
| tadzik | "Sent.from.my.Jolla" | 11:48 |
| r0kk3rz | tadzik: yep i do that too | 11:48 |
| ggabriel | happens sometimes, hence tohkbd | 11:48 |
| ggabriel | apple fixed that by hiding it under the symbols key | 11:48 |
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| tadzik | hehe, it's working https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3nIL03NItU | 18:36 |
| tadzik | now "just" to write a maliit plugin :P | 18:36 |
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| kimmoli | heh | 18:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | tadzik: :D | 18:59 |
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