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Stskeepshttp://company.nokia.com/en/news/press-releases/2016/05/18/nokia-signs-strategic-brand-and-intellectual-property-licensing-agreement-enabling-hmd-global-to-create-new-generation-of-nokia-branded-mobile-phones-and-tablets09:24
sharpneliWasn't MS supposed to have exclusive right for that brand name? Did they give it up?09:27
Stskeepsread the article closer09:27
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sharpneliAh yeah. Indeed. MS sold it.09:28
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dr_gogeta86Stskeeps, so the f*boys dream of nokia mtk phones ?10:21
pp_ho-hum: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=HMD10:23
Stskeepspp_: implant time!10:24
dr_gogeta86:-D10:24
coderusanyone bought wireless charging circuits for jolla on ebay or aliexpress?10:25
pp_I got a funkyoh with wireless charging but never tried it (it cracked before I got the chance)10:26
pp_interesting10:27
pp_Nimi:HMD global Oy08.04.2016Historia10:27
pp_Special Purpose Vehicle No. 251 Oy17.11.201510:27
Stskeepspp_: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_purpose_entity10:28
coderusi saw some people bought circuits for htc or so, and it worked, but i need to know exact models10:28
pp_https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92059 ?10:29
pp_yea, I guess it was a parked company from a law firm10:30
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dr_gogeta86coderus, pay attention to temperature10:46
coderusdr_gogeta86: what you mean?10:47
dr_gogeta86My adapter yellowed the lcd10:48
dr_gogeta86I tell you ASAP the model10:48
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tadzikhrm, can you debug the CalDAV sync somehow?14:26
tadzikI get "Oops, problem with account creation", that's not very helpful14:26
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phlixi_oi asume that is some journal magic that could be done, but i have no idea about the details14:35
phlixi_ojournalctl14:35
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tadzikoh wow15:38
tadzikit meant "hey, your internet connection is down"15:38
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tadzikwait, nvm15:39
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tadzikhttps://gist.githubusercontent.com/tadzik/81caa9def70579152c2f68f6bba32fcf/raw/f96f429477a5609deecddf60a404781dbf03045f/gistfile1.txt that's what it says, with "grep caldav"15:40
tadzikinterestingly, the server actually notes PROPFIND request at /cal/tadzik/ received15:41
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tadzikokay, I dug up to some "internal sever erorr", I can work with that15:44
MilhouseI gave up on hoping there'd be a wireless charging circuit for Jolla (love my Panasonic QE-TM101 with Nexus 7) so eventually bought this as a compromise, works great with Jolla: https://www.amazon.co.uk/SweetLF-Magnetic-Charging-Display-Support/dp/B01ARL6ES815:45
MilhouseMy next phone, which probably won't be a Jolla of any description, will have wireless charging - it's a deal breaker for me now. Hoping HMD/Nokia don't drop the ball on that one...15:46
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Nicd-there were wireless charging OHs15:58
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loic_mWireless charging… reminds me my (now old) Palm Pre running webOS :)16:01
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sakustarwhy u wireless charging :o16:34
chem|sthttp://company.nokia.com/en/our-businesses/nokia-technologies/hello-again16:35
Stskeepschem|st: the longer version is more interesting16:36
toxipstill waiting for that "device related treat" from Jolla :P16:36
chem|styet expected but actually up their ass for not cutting a deal with Jolla16:36
chem|stStskeeps: people might be able to click that link :D16:36
toxipthat whole nokia thing is a bit meh16:39
toxipthey could've at least used Sailfish OS16:39
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sakustaror a new symbian16:40
sakustar:^)16:40
chem|sttoxip: and people not knowing the mobile world could have told the value of the Nokia brand, at least before they destroyed all left reputation with lumias16:40
r0kk3rzi find it hard to get excited about generic android phones with the nokia brand on them16:41
r0kk3rzlike "wooo" just what the market needs16:41
phlixi_oif they get traditional nokia hardware quality, i can understand16:41
chem|str0kk3rz: exactly16:42
r0kk3rzwill they though? its going to made in the same factories as everything else16:42
phlixi_omy 5130 was pretty sturdy :D16:42
sakustarwake me up when someone releases a qwerty slider16:43
r0kk3rzagreed back in the day nokia made some nice hardware, but that whole pipeline is gone16:43
chem|stphlixi_o: what company sold their hardware business and brand and got the same quality after 10 years? look at IBM Thinkpads, the prizetags are still on the roof but the value is down the drain16:43
phlixi_owell, everything is made by $foxcon (or similar) and they build the really high quality apple stuff as well as other trash... thus they build what you (nokia) order16:43
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phlixi_o..and in between, i really like the n9 hardware (not speaking about cpu or the linke, but the pastic, and haptics,,...) actually i think n9 is best phone "hardware" ever made, maybe iphone 5 is the same16:45
phlixi_oin contrqast e. g. the LG stuff etc sucks chepo wonky pastiks16:46
chem|stphlixi_o: I'd go with the N950, or N900 - just resurrected my n900 and know what I missed the most, the feel in your hand while talking and the keyboard16:46
chem|stthe N9 is nice though no kbd16:48
chem|stthe n97 was nice too16:48
sakustare7 has the weird option to share your sim card over bluetooth16:48
sakustarhavent seen it on other phones iirc16:49
phlixi_owell, i accepted that there will be no more hardware kbd :-) in that sense its hard to compare, ofc the n900 was really good16:49
chem|stStskeeps: what is exactly interesting about it?16:50
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chem|stphlixi_o: the nokia kbd mechanics are priceless, and looking at phones like e7 and n950, there was not even much of a problem with sizes16:52
chem|stthe n8 is about the same as the e716:52
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Milhouse@Nicd- yeah, I was really hoping Jolla would come out with an official Wireless Charging OH, but they blew that and did nothing with the concept. The third-party wireless charging OH's always looked poor quality to me.17:13
MilhouseThe N9 industrial design was pretty timeless, would still look good today17:17
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paMilhouse, it still does ;)17:41
nh1402such a stupid name for a messaging app, Allo17:41
nh1402they've also violently improved upon my text formatted messaging idea :(17:41
tadziknamed after something you don't ever say when you use a messaging app :)17:42
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pacoz you say ey? ;)17:42
paHow about contacts on jolla? is there an evolution of qtmobility.contacts or custom APIs?17:44
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nh1402who would like to make an open source p2p version of this app?17:45
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chem|stMilhouse: now that Jolla does not have official devices anymore... can we please have an ugly developer device with keyboard and all hardware built in to tinker with ;)18:07
Venemohow about... Neo900? :)18:08
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Armadillochem|st and half a year later everything is being sold to Microsoft?^^18:12
chem|stArmadillo: lol, the n9 oversold the first lumia on markets the n9 wasn't even distributed to officially^^ so guess what would be the right choice of nokia to go... sure sell to masakersoft18:14
Armadillo:)18:15
chem|steveryone knows that it was a bad decision18:15
chem|stand jolla is considered dead as there was no new device in 3 years18:15
chem|stI bet there is a market for a Jolla2 if Jolla releases all kinds of gadgets for TOH themselves18:17
r0kk3rzyeah intex needs to hurry up18:17
chem|stsame design new hardware....18:17
chem|str0kk3rz: intex has no toh18:17
r0kk3rzso?18:17
chem|stis another cheap phone18:17
r0kk3rzcorrect18:17
chem|stnot distributed18:17
r0kk3rzcheap enough to import and deal with the no warranty18:18
r0kk3rzbecause cheap18:18
chem|stnoone would care if the Jolla2 would cost 400eur if there were gadgets, guess even 500-600 is possible18:18
chem|str0kk3rz: yeah import from whom?18:18
chem|stit is sold online and not shipping to outside india18:19
r0kk3rzim sure there are ways18:19
r0kk3rzif not, then too bad i guess18:19
chem|styeah time will tell, but I guess we will see that african company ship to europe before intex does18:19
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r0kk3rzdoubt it18:20
chem|stI am waiting for the second round of turing phones now18:20
r0kk3rzlike intex they have no reason to enter the european market18:20
chem|stand FP2 might be supported some day18:20
Armadillosecond?18:20
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Armadillois the first out? Oo18:20
chem|stArmadillo: first is to be shipped starting june or something, end of june will be the second pre-order round iirc18:21
r0kk3rz"soon"18:21
r0kk3rzthey said april before...18:21
Armadilloand march18:22
Armadilloand even may in april I think18:22
Armadillo^^18:22
nh1402Q2 2016 for the African Mi-Phone no one has seen or been talking about18:22
nh1402so next month.18:22
nh1402if not this month18:22
chem|stmarch was with production in the us, that they wont make that was clear after they moved everything to .fi18:23
chem|stprobably impossible to export the phone to any other country^^18:23
r0kk3rzturing i will believe when it ships, and not a moment before18:24
nh1402if it's not vaporware18:24
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r0kk3rznh1402: this is exactly my point18:24
chem|stany sailors seen one in real? Stskeeps sledges?18:24
Stskeepsno comment18:25
nh1402r0kk3rz: yes I misread your message18:25
Stskeepsbut it looks handy in a fight18:25
chem|sthehe18:25
chem|stStskeeps: handy as a nokia 3210?18:25
nh1402Stskeeps: any thoughts on Android N?, other than all the features stolen from Cyanogenmod or Samsung18:25
Stskeepsnh1402: still waching18:25
chem|stuh name voting lets come up with something nasty18:26
chem|stsizzling-weasel-on-a-stick18:26
StskeepsAndroid No18:27
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nh1402600% performance improvement with the JIT compiler in some cases, yh and I can run to the moon in back in an hour18:27
nh1402Stskeeps: that's hilarious18:27
kimmolinext is Android Mo18:28
kimmoliMoo .. dmn18:28
r0kk3rzheh, "we fixed some really horrible corner case so we can claim 600% improvement!"18:28
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Venemoheh18:51
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pdanekAnother big news: http://jollacommunity.it/sailfish-os-russia-lenovo/20:00
pdanekLenovo speaking to Jolla about possible partnership.20:01
pdanekThat's big.20:01
Hartziis it just rumours?20:02
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nh1402this Lenovo isn't the same as the chinese Lenovo though is it?20:08
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tadzikwow20:23
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nh1402maybe it is20:49
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r0kk3rzmakes sense that the ruskis are going to need a hardware partner20:53
nh1402could mean proper Lenovo could follow suit20:54
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tux|dudeYo21:01
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pdanek!seen TMavica21:29
merbotpdanek: TMavica was last seen in #jollamobile 2 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 54 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <TMavica> tomorrow21:29
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