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| arvut | anyone awake and eager to problemsolve why I can't re-download developer tools? | 01:00 |
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| arvut | I need advice on what to do next | 01:00 |
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| arvut | all the screen click vibration in the world cannot match the tactileness of a mechanical keyboard, I need to ssh back into my phone with my desktop keyboard | 01:15 |
| arvut | plz help me regain developer-mode, I miss it so much | 01:16 |
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| chriadam | arvut: do you have fingerterm installed? | 03:37 |
| chriadam | arvut: what does `ssu s` and `ssu lr` tell you? | 03:38 |
| chriadam | arvut: you probably need a jolla account on the device, as a precondition. | 03:38 |
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| arvut | chriadam: not separatly, didn't find it in store either | 04:32 |
| arvut | chriadam: I had it, previously | 04:32 |
| arvut | I disabled dev-mode and now I can't reenable it | 04:32 |
| arvut | I've cleared app-cache, relogged in with account, and still get error that "jolla-developer-mode could not be found in store" when I try to enable it from settings | 04:33 |
| arvut | I will reset device if so need be | 04:33 |
| arvut | I have nothing important on it | 04:33 |
| kimmoli | arvut: you can't ssh in over usb? did you try that shellex thing? can you run those ssu commands with it? | 04:44 |
| arvut | kimmoli: I have not tried that, can you give brief starting directions? | 04:44 |
| arvut | I can connect it as pc-mode | 04:45 |
| arvut | and it is recognized as xhci usb device | 04:45 |
| arvut | I can mount it with jmtpfs as well | 04:45 |
| arvut | but atm I have no working desktop system either, I'm rebuilding it due to filesystem issues | 04:45 |
| arvut | working from livecd for a bit | 04:45 |
| kimmoli | ah.this then? https://openrepos.net/content/acce/shellex | 04:46 |
| arvut | how do I install it? | 04:47 |
| arvut | I have yet not used openrepos, I've heard of it though | 04:47 |
| arvut | kimmoli: do I add the repo to store in some way? or is there a separate application for this? | 04:48 |
| arvut | kimmoli: I can install programs just fine from store atm | 04:48 |
| arvut | irc app installed just fine the other day | 04:48 |
| kimmoli | if that is in store? | 04:48 |
| arvut | shellex? | 04:48 |
| kimmoli | yep | 04:48 |
| * arvut having a look | 04:49 | |
| kimmoli | otherwise enable untrusted from settings, and just click the link on that webpage | 04:49 |
| arvut | ok, installing | 04:49 |
| arvut | ahh | 04:49 |
| arvut | so that's how you do it | 04:49 |
| arvut | does that site work as a off-store repo for dev pkgs? (unstable) | 04:50 |
| arvut | I'm on unstable gentoo, so I'm used to buggy programs (they are not awfully common though) | 04:50 |
| arvut | not 100% unstable ofcourse | 04:51 |
| arvut | that would probably be a mess | 04:51 |
| kimmoli | mostly stuff that is not allowed in store | 04:52 |
| arvut | right | 04:53 |
| arvut | so dev stuff more or less | 04:53 |
| arvut | that's fine with me, I've considered putting gentoo in dualboot on my jolla | 04:53 |
| arvut | would be cool if it runs | 04:53 |
| arvut | btw, do you know anything about f2fs? | 04:54 |
| kimmoli | one thing at time | 04:55 |
| arvut | ok fine, I had two double espressos already, excuse my haste ;) | 04:56 |
| arvut | and I'm home and back at my keyboard, which is awesome and epicly sweet | 04:56 |
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| kimmoli | i'm at pre-coffee time still... dripping still | 04:56 |
| arvut | classic drip coffee? | 04:57 |
| arvut | per machine or manual? | 04:57 |
| kimmoli | machine. did you got shellex running? | 05:00 |
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| arvut | right, I got it installed, running now | 05:06 |
| arvut | what do I run? | 05:06 |
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| arvut | per machine, what kind of machine are we speaking? | 05:06 |
| arvut | can we have two discussions at the same time? | 05:06 |
| arvut | or is coffee totally offtopic here | 05:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's not | 05:07 |
| Stskeeps | i'm into cold brew | 05:07 |
| arvut | you extract caffeine from coffee with lack of heat? | 05:07 |
| arvut | what method? | 05:07 |
| arvut | kimmoli: what do I run in shellex? /etc/init.d/sshd start? | 05:09 |
| kimmoli | chriadam commands ^ | 05:10 |
| arvut | ahh thx | 05:10 |
| Stskeeps | basically i take a pitcher of cold water and put coffee powder in it (i'm too lazy to grind it coarse myself), stuff it in a fridge for 12 hours , filter out the powder, dilute with water or milk, it kicks like a mule, tastes fantastic, lasts me whole day and is not acidic | 05:10 |
| Stskeeps | also it doesn't spoil, so i just keep it in fridge for whole week | 05:11 |
| Stskeeps | since acidic comes from the burning part/boiling water | 05:11 |
| Stskeeps | so very good for my stomach :) | 05:11 |
| arvut | chriadam: not registered, and ; enabled, then disabled repos global and user | 05:12 |
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| arvut | kimmoli: that was also for you, and anyone else listening to this problem | 05:13 |
| kimmoli | what was Domain? | 05:15 |
| arvut | store-repository.jolla.com and releases.jolla.com | 05:15 |
| kimmoli | ssu domain | 05:16 |
| arvut | sales | 05:16 |
| arvut | this needs to change, doesn't it? | 05:16 |
| arvut | to a dev value | 05:16 |
| kimmoli | no | 05:17 |
| kimmoli | "sales" is good | 05:17 |
| arvut | ok, what next? | 05:17 |
| kimmoli | pkcon search name developer | 05:17 |
| arvut | I can take a printscreen and upload to imgur if that's helpful | 05:17 |
| kimmoli | and you are on 2.0.1.11 ? | 05:18 |
| kimmoli | or 2.0.0.10 ? | 05:18 |
| arvut | shellex keeps restarting itself after each typed command (when starting to type the next), is this normal? | 05:18 |
| arvut | 0.10 | 05:18 |
| kimmoli | the above pkcon command, did you see Available jolla-developer-mode... in results | 05:19 |
| arvut | kimmoli: I've changed account on device, this phone used to belong to my sister, she now has my old (which is not in use) | 05:20 |
| arvut | does this affect it? | 05:20 |
| arvut | I enabled dev-mode on her phone, with her account | 05:20 |
| arvut | and I've relogged with my account, which I used to enable devmode on my old phone (the unused one) | 05:21 |
| kimmoli | afaiu it shouldnt have effect. unless store tracks it somehow for warranty causes? (?) | 05:21 |
| arvut | maybe it does | 05:21 |
| arvut | if I can get her login details, I can check if relogging as her allows for re-installing devmode | 05:22 |
| arvut | I'll ask her for them later on this evening I suppose | 05:22 |
| arvut | and she will hate me for having to bother with it xD | 05:22 |
| kimmoli | :) | 05:23 |
| kimmoli | but... did you see something like this? | 05:23 |
| kimmoli | Installed jolla-developer-mode-0.3.24-10.25.1.jolla.armv7hl Developer mode for Jolla devices | 05:23 |
| arvut | is there anything I can do from shellex to enable fingerterm or even whole devmode? | 05:24 |
| arvut | I'll check, which command would output it? | 05:24 |
| kimmoli | pkcon search name developer | 05:24 |
| arvut | oh yeah, I did | 05:24 |
| arvut | its available | 05:24 |
| arvut | 0.3.22 | 05:24 |
| arvut | -10 | 05:25 |
| arvut | Available usb-jolla-developer-mode-0.82.3-1.19.1.armv7h1 is there as well | 05:26 |
| kimmoli | hmm.. afaiu 0.3.22 is valid for 2.0.0.10 | 05:27 |
| arvut | how would I update to 2.0.1.11? | 05:27 |
| arvut | does it need dev permission? | 05:27 |
| kimmoli | the repository refresh needs | 05:29 |
| kimmoli | hmm. | 05:29 |
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| kimmoli | https://openrepos.net/content/lourens/fingerterm | 05:30 |
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| kimmoli | there was a fork of fingerterm in OR. install that | 05:30 |
| arvut | is it unmodified? | 05:30 |
| kimmoli | it has some small fixies | 05:31 |
| arvut | that's ok | 05:31 |
| arvut | is it more like fingterm for n9? | 05:31 |
| * arvut has lost his n9 somewhere in his appartment | 05:31 | |
| kimmoli | fingerterm is fingerterm | 05:32 |
| kimmoli | i'm just worried, that there is "Categories=X-SailfishDeveloperMode;" in desktop file. hope it doesnt hide it if no developer mode. | 05:32 |
| arvut | kimmoli: can I cat it? | 05:33 |
| arvut | with shellex | 05:33 |
| kimmoli | urf, i need to go. to real work. if it does not appear, /usr/share/applications/fingerterm.desktop is the file | 05:34 |
| arvut | what is desktop file called? | 05:34 |
| arvut | k | 05:34 |
| arvut | thx for help, I will get to the root with this | 05:34 |
| kimmoli | aa the change was for nemo | 05:34 |
| kimmoli | ok, bbl | 05:35 |
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| Lieke | 2016-05-09: 2.0.1.11 Roll-out to all users. | 12:39 |
| Lieke | progress! | 12:40 |
| mdxth | uu | 12:41 |
| pp_ | ooh | 12:41 |
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| kimmoli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpXN8BvGp_o | 12:52 |
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| Mirv | uuh | 13:20 |
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| jaywalk | Splendid! my broken jolla tablet is now being repaired, hopefully not many days off from being back in my hands in working condition. | 14:27 |
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| Ingvix | splendid is a funny word | 14:30 |
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| trusiad | Hi. | 14:36 |
| trusiad | I just installed sailfish OS on my ZTE OPEN C, but the jolla store seems not to be working. | 14:36 |
| trusiad | Many areas are empty, and I can't install anything... | 14:37 |
| trusiad | Is it everyone or just me new user ? | 14:37 |
| ggabriel | trusiad: maybe take this to the porters channel? #sailfishos-porters | 14:40 |
| ggabriel | also, check if things are meant to work with that device first, etc. | 14:41 |
| trusiad | Does the store work for you ? | 14:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | trusiad: #sailfishos-porters is what you need, maybe the store hasnt been configured on that port yet | 14:44 |
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| ggabriel | store works ok for jolla1, yes | 14:46 |
| ggabriel | and tablet | 14:46 |
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| trusiad | Is there any way to install webapps on sailfish ? | 14:59 |
| ggabriel | you mean like the ones for chrome/chromium? | 15:00 |
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| trusiad | nope. i mean html5 apps, like the ones for firefox OS. | 15:01 |
| trusiad | which are supposed to be cross-platform | 15:01 |
| ggabriel | i don't know... check tjc? maybe there's a request for that | 15:01 |
| ggabriel | java is supposed to be cross platform but they bundle some software with .BAT to install so go figure | 15:02 |
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| trusiad | So I can have sailfish on my phone but no apps... | 15:03 |
| ggabriel | you can side load applications | 15:04 |
| trusiad | ah... how ? | 15:04 |
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| ggabriel | get rpm, open terminal, pkcon install_local /paht/to/rpm | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | I think | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | there's openrepos too | 15:06 |
| trusiad | ok... | 15:06 |
| ggabriel | also, if you download an rpm from the phone itself you can just tap on it | 15:06 |
| ggabriel | and it intsalls | 15:06 |
| trusiad | Thanks. I'll try that... | 15:06 |
| ggabriel | just a word of warning: you don't get maps, android or anything that's closed | 15:07 |
| trusiad | Yeap. I don't have the android compatibility, it seems. | 15:11 |
| trusiad | On oepnrepos there's debs... I can install that too ? | 15:12 |
| trusiad | Where do I get the rpms of which I am sure they will work ? | 15:12 |
| Yaniel | no | 15:12 |
| Yaniel | make sure you are looking at sailfish apps | 15:12 |
| Yaniel | not meego apps | 15:13 |
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| trusiad | ok. Yes, it was a meego app. | 15:15 |
| trusiad | Is there a way to sort apps for sailfish ? | 15:16 |
| trusiad | Just found it. | 15:17 |
| phlixi_o | i recommend warehouse for openrepos (some other may not agree with me on that one) | 15:19 |
| trusiad | yeap, I understood that. | 15:21 |
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| trusiad | Trying to install an app, it complains about a missing 'libtcl'. But I can't find it anywhere ... ? | 15:43 |
| kid | from the store or openrepos? | 15:44 |
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| trusiad | both | 15:46 |
| kid | and which app? | 15:47 |
| trusiad | expect | 15:47 |
| trusiad | it's the name of the app | 15:47 |
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| baffer | the latest update sent my jolla to the bootloop hell. I managed to telnet into the phone, and I'm trying to use the btrfs recovery. Does anyone have any idea how long it's supposed to take? It's been like 15 minutes now. :-) | 19:45 |
| cehteh | it may take longer, iirc you can query its status and/or look at dmesg | 19:48 |
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| baffer | okay, thanks | 19:48 |
| Ingvix | oh, there's a new stable release | 19:48 |
| baffer | yeah, real stable... :) | 19:49 |
| Ingvix | uh, yes | 19:50 |
| cehteh | since when? | 19:57 |
| Ingvix | hmm, was there anything else I should do before installing the new update other than remove patches? | 19:58 |
| Ingvix | and backup | 19:59 |
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| baffer | I can't telnet to the phone anymore... I thought that btrfs should be pretty fail safe | 21:50 |
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| Stskeeps | /g 19 | 22:03 |
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| phlixi_ | telnet | 22:19 |
| phlixi_ | cant remember when the string "telnet" was used the last time not within a joke... | 22:19 |
| baffer | ha | 22:21 |
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