#jollamobile log for Wednesday, 2016-03-23

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HtheBanyone know how to mount uSD using fstab?00:03
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Oni^HtheB: I've mount my rpi like this "/dev/mmcblk0p2  /               ext4    errors=remount-ro,noatime  0       1"00:15
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HtheBanyone still alive somehow? :P02:22
HtheBOni^ thanks for the advice02:22
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HtheBI would like to know if it's possible to remove the X icon for a specific app when you are in the edit mode to remove apps from the launcher02:23
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HtheBdoes Jolla mount the microSD automatically when inserted?11:41
HtheBor do I have to reboot?11:41
phlixi_ousually you do this only once for the lifetime of a phone, thus just reboot and your done...11:46
phlixi_ooh, wait, its you again11:46
phlixi_osorry this time i am trolling :D11:46
HtheB:(11:47
HtheByou got me there11:48
HtheB:P11:48
HtheBseems like its auto mounting when inserting the microSD11:50
HtheBno need for a reboot :P11:51
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r0kk3rzphlixi_o: ive removed and re-inserted my sdcard many times since owning the jolla :P11:54
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HtheBr0kk3rz: <insert THANK YOU.GIF here>12:01
HtheBhttps://media.giphy.com/media/1Z02vuppxP1Pa/giphy.gif12:02
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r0kk3rzsometimes if im out and about i might even take the sdcard from my SLR camera and put it into my jolla phone (woah crazy)12:03
citylight2is the jolla the only device that can run android apps?12:04
kimmoliofficial support only on jolla. sfdroid in works for some ported devices.12:04
HtheBsoon on Intex Aqua Fish12:05
HtheBand Turingphone ?12:05
citylight2is the aquafish out yet? I need to replace my jolla12:05
citylight2did the software eng that left jolla, not coming back?12:06
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HtheBcitylight2: no, and no12:08
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ggabrielcitylight2: buy another jolla? they're still on sale...12:11
ggabrielintex devices will be available only in india fwiw12:11
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HtheBI would love to be a distributor for the Intex phones12:11
HtheBwithout warranty though12:11
ggabrielHtheB: lol :) I don't think you can do that legally in the EU :P12:12
HtheBdo I care?12:12
HtheBI've already shipped a lot of Jolla's across the world :)12:12
ggabrielHtheB: well, if you make a profit/take money, you're liable12:13
ggabrielif you do it as a friend and money changes hands informally, then I don't think you are12:13
HtheBI've never said that I was going to make profit12:13
ggabrieldistributor suggests that12:13
HtheBdistribute as a person, not as a company :P12:13
ggabrieltbh, if I did it with people I know, no problem12:14
ggabrielbut if you do it with strangers, you should find out if you're liable for anything12:14
HtheBevery person who joins the Jolla family, is welcome for me12:14
ggabrielyou're too nice!12:14
HtheBbe nice, get nice12:15
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HtheBbe shit, get hit12:15
HtheB- HtheB12:15
HtheB:P someone should make a portrait/frame with this quote12:16
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r0kk3rzHtheB: i dont think the person/company distinction matters, but i guess it depends on your local laws12:19
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r0kk3rzbecause i dont think anyone will deport you for sending a few phones around12:19
Stskeepsyet12:20
Stskeeps:P12:20
HtheBwhy yet?12:20
HtheBwhy should someone know that I am sending phones around? :P12:20
r0kk3rzbecause according to obama they're 'swiss bank accounts'12:20
HtheBwho's obama?12:21
r0kk3rzidk, some guys, hes on the tv sometimes12:21
* HtheB shrugs12:21
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HtheBTime for true Multitasking: beat that Jolla16:14
HtheBarstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/03/this-is-android-ns-freeform-window-mode/16:14
ggabrielwow! they joined the future!16:15
ggabrielmultitasking... a feature that has been around for, erm, ever16:16
HtheBggabriel: sadly, Jolla isn't ;)16:16
ggabrieland in personal computing since the PC AT and to a greater/better exstent since the 386 cpu's16:16
ggabrielsfos multitasks ofc16:16
r0kk3rzggabriel: this is part of their android replacing chromeos plan16:17
ggabrielr0kk3rz: yup, could be16:17
dv_I'd rather see push-based notification, file type associations, and better copy/paste controls in the keyboard before this16:17
HtheB<ggabriel> sfos multitasks ofc <<< HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA16:17
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HtheBjoke of the year16:18
HtheBI can't watch a movie while im browsing16:18
dv_what's also missing from the file browser: cifs/smb support16:18
HtheBit even PAUSES the player when minimizing16:19
HtheBTHATS multitasking!?16:19
coderuswrite player with support of overlay window, that is easier than system windows multitsking16:19
dv_HtheB: how would you watch a minimized movie?16:19
dv_yeah, an overlay would make more sense perhaps16:20
HtheBcoderus: yeah, I'm using BS Player, works with Android apps16:21
HtheBsadly ofcourse, not when a native app is on front16:21
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HtheBI wish LLS player would have an overlay window :(16:26
coderuscontribute :D16:26
HtheBif I could, believe me, I would16:27
HtheBhappily!16:27
phlixi_obtw, soundcloud plays, youtube doesnt, they dont want to be played offscreen, its not the browser nor sailfish, its the javascript on youtube that causes that16:29
r0kk3rz'if i could', pfft, if you want to do something then learn :P16:29
phlixi_o(for the case someone wonders way its not polssible to play a youtube in background, e.g. to listen to the music)16:32
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tillI think ytplayer works in background16:34
tilljust checked, it does16:35
ggabrielHtheB: you don't know what multitasking is then ;)16:40
ggabrielof course you do, but you're talking about windows management16:40
ggabrielarguably, android has been able to do that for ages in samsung's version16:40
ggabrieland it's horrid of course16:40
phlixi_otill i was talking about the youtube website, it (tries to) detect whether it runs offscreen and stops playback16:52
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HtheBphlixi: Apperently, there is a way to play youtube in the background20:45
HtheB(using the official app)20:45
HtheBThere is an app called Xposed Framework, it's like the Patchmanager on Sailfish OS20:45
HtheBbut I couldn't get it to install :(20:45
HtheBit tries to mount some dirs, but it fails :(20:45
phlixisure, never said there are no ways araound it, its just the standard website, that does stuff to activly prevent what would work otherwise20:46
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HtheBhope someone can help me with this though20:49
fennekkixposed is useful for rootcloak20:57
nanderWhen will the next OS version be out? (Shouldn't it have been out already?)20:59
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HtheBfennekki: any idea how to get it to work on Jolla?21:08
fennekkiuh21:09
fennekkiI uh21:09
fennekkiwhaT?21:09
fennekkiAre you trying to install it on the Jolla phone21:10
nh1402Doesn't the latest SafetyNet API see through the root cloack21:12
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HtheBfennekki: yes21:13
HtheBTrying to get Xposed framework to work on Jolla21:14
fennekkiBut why21:14
HtheBpatches like:21:16
HtheBuse YouTube app on the background21:16
HtheBthere are few usefull patches on the Xposed Framework21:16
fennekkihave you considered21:16
HtheBit's like saying: why would you want Patchmanager on Jolla?21:16
fennekkithat maybe they edit features of the operating system that don't exist in aliendalvik21:16
HtheByes and no21:17
fennekkisomething like the youtube app not probably21:17
HtheBI'll find it out when its not working :P21:17
fennekkibut yknow, it might be that the xposed framework hooks into something that just doesn't exist21:17
fennekkiI don't know, I haven't looked into it21:17
HtheBit doesnt mount21:17
HtheBit doesnt LET it mount21:17
fennekkimount21:17
HtheBto install xposed framework21:17
fennekkimount what21:17
HtheBerm21:17
HtheBlet me check again21:17
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HtheBfennekki: mount: can't find /system in /proc/mounts21:22
HtheB?21:39
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HtheB:(22:34
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