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pdanekHey guys18:04
pdanekWhat's happening now?18:04
pdanekI haven't seen any news after MWC18:04
coderuswhat kind of news? :D18:04
Stskeepsvacation after MWC, then people re-syncing, and that's the weekend we're on?18:06
Stskeeps:P18:06
cb400fpdanek: did you see this? https://jolla.com/jobs/18:09
cb400fand in other good news... /me should be picking up a 2nd hand jolla tablet tomorrow, so that is AWESOME!18:10
pdaneknew jobs, good news18:14
mornfallthere's a second hand market now and I still didn't even get an invite18:14
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coderusand russian offices will join sailfishos development soon :D18:22
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Hartzisounds terrible18:31
mornfallcoderus: offices or officers? :P18:33
coderusoffices with devs :)18:33
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the_mgtso we get kgb backdoors, instead of nsa ones, that is something different18:36
svuorelatime to break NSA's surveillance monopoly18:37
coderusthe_mgt: haha, no18:42
coderusnot in worlwide version at least :D18:42
mornfallwell, SFOS isn't exactly OSS, so we can't really know for sure18:43
the_mgtsounds fair to me. if the nsa would keep their surveillance to us territory/citizens, that would be nice18:44
coderusnobody will let em do that, even if they want it so hard18:44
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nh1402what does OSS actually stand for?19:05
svuorelaopen source software19:06
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pdanekFor some reason, I find Turing phone on either Indiegogo or Kickstarter anymore.19:24
nh1402if you can find it then whats the problem19:25
pdanekcan't find*19:25
nh1402does this count https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/qsalpha-quasar-iv#/19:26
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EyeAJolla  )01!@ )0h19:39
* mornfall still doesn't get the greeting19:41
* Mikaela still thinks that user is a bot19:41
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EyeAHey19:53
EyeANo not19:53
EyeAHow are you all19:53
EyeAAsk coderus19:54
nh1402AI has been advancing19:56
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coderusthis is really a person :D20:06
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EyeANice20:07
kimmolihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iJu9-8pjcQ20:08
phlixiJolla  )01!@ )0h20:11
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nh1402what's up with that "Jolla  )01!@ )0h"20:45
Yanieldaily ritual?20:46
Temppu-Temeby some weird logic Jolla in 'leetspeek' is )01!@20:47
Temppu-Teme.. the L:s arent even the same .__.20:48
Nicd-and )0h I think is joy by the same convoluted rules20:52
Yanielor just "joh"20:53
pdaneknh1402: no, Quasar IV is old.... there was Turing Phone campaign on both Indiegogo and Kickstarter, but it disappeared?!20:53
Yanielas in "fifteen men on the dead man's chest; joh-oh and a bottle of rum"20:53
pdanekthat whole Turing Phone thing is very mysterious20:54
nh1402yep sounds like vaporware to me20:54
Nicd-maybe it's like the Dragonfly Futurefön!20:55
Nicd-the gift that keeps on giving :D20:55
pdanekBut how can it disappear from Kickstarter and Indiegogo?20:55
Yanieloh turingri fixed their website at least20:55
Yaniel*at last20:55
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Nicd-pdanek: they deleted it?20:56
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pdanekNicd-: I didn't think it's legally possible20:57
pdaneksince they funded the project20:57
pdanekpeople pledged money20:57
pdanekhow can they just delete it?20:58
pdanekIndiegogo and Kickstarter must give some guarantees to people?20:58
Nicd-from what I've heard they are both quite shit20:59
Nicd-and will happily take your money and give it to scammers20:59
pdanekhttp://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/a145714683550921:03
pdanekIf someone has nothing to do and willing to translate for wider community, that would be amazing. :)21:03
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Nicd-basically the person behind turing phones has a series of failures previously21:05
Yanielreminds me of another recent company in the mobile phone business21:06
Nicd-and some old domain connected to an old project has been taken over to sell fake ugg boots and hentai porn21:06
Nicd-personally after reading reddit's /r/shittykickstarters and following some other failures I've decided not to take part in any crowdfunding21:07
Nicd-which sometimes hurts because I really like the look of this: https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ultimate-hacking-keyboard (but hopefully they will sell it normally after the campaign)21:07
Yanielthe UHK is probably the most promising crowdfunding project I've seen lately21:08
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Yanielre: the hs.fi article; the caption of the picture at the end says that according to TuringRI's CEO they are going to start delivering phones next month21:09
pdanekhmmmm21:10
pdanekthat's strong claim from CEO21:10
Yanielearlier in the post "The first phones are manufactured in China but according to Chao China is not suited as the manufacturing country for a security phone."21:11
Yaniel*first batch of phones21:11
pdanekWhat if we will really get supersecure phone that everyone was waiting for years and it will be amazing?21:12
pdanek:D21:12
Nicd-pdanek: you ordered?21:12
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Yanielif it actually makes it to the market that's great21:13
pdanekNicd-: I didn't21:13
Nicd-good21:13
Yaniel"TRI has started a sister company in Finland"21:14
Yaniel"which means they can apply for grants from <various government agencies>"21:15
Nicd-dat tekes money21:16
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Yanielthen there's stuff about the switch from android to sfos and about ex-microsoft (ex-nokia) employees in salo21:16
Yaniel"the know-how and facilities were already there"21:17
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Yaniel"It'd be great to have the option of TEKES money. If it's possible to apply for it, of course we'll do that."21:18
Yaniel^ Nicd- :^)21:18
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Yanielthe comments are not entirely digitoday-tier but they have potential :D21:24
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pdanekhmmm21:28
pdanekYaniel: So do you still have faith in Turing Phone?21:28
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YanielI didn't say that21:37
Yaniel"they have potential" was referring to the comments21:37
Nicd-oh no, I read digitoday comments and lost 10 points of IQ21:38
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test5353Is it ok to ask questions in this channel?22:52
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