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| SfietKonstantinS | hello | 08:34 |
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| SfietKonstantinS | who is at Fosdem ? espcially in Jansen building ? | 08:35 |
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| SfietKonstantinS | o/ | 08:42 |
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| SfietKonstantinS | kimmoli: you might get a new padawan to mentor | 10:39 |
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| kimmoli | ? | 10:39 |
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| SfietKonstantinS | kimmoli: someone at fosdem wanted to do tohs | 10:44 |
| SfietKonstantinS | so he might ping you on irc | 10:44 |
| kimmoli | ah, ok. he will be padawan after 13 years of pre-training | 10:45 |
| SfietKonstantinS | lol | 10:46 |
| r0kk3rz | SfietKonstantinS: too old to begin the training he is | 10:46 |
| SfietKonstantinS | ooh | 10:47 |
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| JvD_ | o/ | 11:08 |
| kimmoli | o\ | 11:09 |
| locusf | yo | 11:16 |
| stephg_ | ohai! | 11:17 |
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| kimmoli | locusf: no problems on security-check with diy tablet? | 11:28 |
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| locusf | kimmoli: well not the tablet | 11:29 |
| locusf | just because of the mess of wires | 11:29 |
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| locusf | they wondered that I had two tablet | 11:30 |
| locusf | I should have said about the other 3 at home | 11:30 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | ahaha | 11:32 |
| locusf | and other 6 phones :p | 11:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, we need to do some kind what's in my bag mer/nemo/sf editions | 11:33 |
| locusf | aye | 11:33 |
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| locusf | hmm rpi mentioned | 11:36 |
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| sledges | FOSDEM PSA: BoF room H.3227 is from 17:00, and dinner at http://www.restaurantvincent.com/ from 19:00. .c u there!! https://together.jolla.com/question/126575/fosdem-2016-get-together/ | 11:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks sledges ! | 11:44 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin: it was massive team effort, thanks vgrade and stephg_, #peoplepowered:)) | 11:45 |
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| stephg_ | mostly vgrade :) | 11:45 |
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| sledges | who's not on here:))) | 11:46 |
| stephg_ | he has about 10 minutes of battery left, then he may need to come and sit next to you | 11:46 |
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| sledges | lol | 11:46 |
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| sledges | port quicker:D | 11:46 |
| sledges | no pressure:)) | 11:46 |
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| stephg_ | haha | 11:47 |
| sledges | does being on less channels save battery? | 11:48 |
| sledges | (ignore /me) | 11:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 11:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah, vgrade already wasted all his battery porting ? | 11:50 |
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| stephg_ | jaja | 11:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg_: + sledges + vgrade + javispedro where are you actually ? | 11:50 |
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| stephg_ | epic modem effort :P | 11:50 |
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| stephg_ | Sfiet_Konstantin where we were before! | 11:51 |
| stephg_ | two rows behind where you were | 11:51 |
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| stephg_ | (well not sledges any more, he's now down the side) | 11:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 11:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just missed your message | 11:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks fosdem wifi | 11:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ... | 11:51 |
| stephg_ | haha | 11:51 |
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| * pavi is watching the nemo mobile stream at https://meet.jit.si/fosdemnemorpi | 12:34 | |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | javispedro: around ? | 12:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | are there other interesting python talks afterwards ? | 12:40 |
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| javispedro_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: theres another cpython one soon but ill be going to the eda room instead (overlaps suck) | 12:47 |
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| mornfall | oh the conspiracy thread on tjc ... | 15:56 |
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| entil | mornfall: got a link? | 15:59 |
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| mornfall | https://together.jolla.com/question/123620/was-jolla-sabotaged-like-nokia/ | 16:04 |
| entil | mrw reading that url: "this gon be good" | 16:04 |
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| entil | R: Hi Jolla! Do you want some tea from samovar? We want you to make national operating system for us, with smarthphones, based on Sailfish. We have lot of roubles for you to do that, and our Yandex company could provide all necessary services for you. | 16:09 |
| entil | J: not interested. | 16:09 |
| entil | :DDD | 16:09 |
| SfietKonstantinS | lol | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | entil: that's ironically not what happened | 16:10 |
| entil | Stskeeps: I'm sure not, but there was a source for this '"It makes no sense to create a national operating system", - said Aarnio.' which probably does not mean exactly that :D | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | entil: yes, because it was misunderstood to hell in press | 16:10 |
| entil | yeah, I can imagine | 16:11 |
| entil | if the .ru government actually tried to buy the company and close it down etc, it'd make sense, but I doubt that was ever on the table | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | why would they close it down.. | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:12 |
| entil | because sojuz kholhoz production target must be met | 16:12 |
| entil | every cybereconomic input has output | 16:12 |
| entil | :P | 16:12 |
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| Stskeeps | entil: it doesn't make sense for any country to send a large amount of money to america across the borders | 16:13 |
| entil | yeah, I have really no idea about what's going on with the .ru deal, if it's even on the table anymore, but I just lol'd at that post because it's the most unlikely scenario of them all | 16:13 |
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| corvinux | what is going on with SSH and Secure Sailfish? | 16:25 |
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| EYeA | Jolla )01!@ )0h | 17:15 |
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| fzk | is it worth ordering jolla 1 or should i hope there will be a successor announced soon? | 19:13 |
| wmarone | who knows at this point | 19:14 |
| fzk | people have started speculating | 19:15 |
| kimmoli | really? | 19:15 |
| phlixi_ | intex | 19:16 |
| kimmoli | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 19:17 |
| wmarone | heh, who knows if intex is any good though | 19:18 |
| wmarone | they could be like every android vendor, ship one rev and you _might_ get an update | 19:18 |
| phlixi_ | i really really expect jolla to deliver the updates for the intex device... otherwise that would be really really bad | 19:19 |
| wmarone | why would you expect that? | 19:19 |
| phlixi_ | apple, not google style in this regard | 19:19 |
| wmarone | apple is entirely in control over their own handsets | 19:19 |
| phlixi_ | expect is probably the wrong word | 19:19 |
| wmarone | and jolla is like that only with their own handset | 19:19 |
| wmarone | I'd like it if Jolla had gone the apple-style route, and released a new handset each year | 19:20 |
| wmarone | and not spent time or money on 3rd party adoption | 19:21 |
| fzk | hmm, intex? | 19:22 |
| wmarone | Indian handset vendor | 19:23 |
| kimmoli | https://together.jolla.com/question/125804/intex-aqua-fish-running-sailfish-20-to-be-released-during-mwc-2016/ | 19:23 |
| fzk | well well, i think it is time to kill my n9, how is the jolla, is it fast and snappy? | 19:24 |
| wmarone | it's 2013 hardware I think | 19:24 |
| wmarone | N9 is positively ancient | 19:24 |
| phlixi_ | wmarone: i think one of the usps of jolla/sailfish is, that you get an update every 2 months | 19:28 |
| phlixi_ | jolla would damage that if they would not deliver the updates for the intex device | 19:28 |
| fzk | ooh, that intex device looks interesting if that is true | 19:29 |
| phlixi_ | of course i have nothing actually hinting they the actually will deliver the updates | 19:29 |
| phlixi_ | and there is another player that proved updates for 3thr party devices... ms | 19:29 |
| phlixi_ | provides* | 19:29 |
| fzk | i dont care much about the phone itself, if im gonna use a smartphone it has to come with a interface that is human friendly | 19:30 |
| phlixi_ | and while they f*cked up the older updates, i guess ms now does it the right way (updating devices) | 19:30 |
| fzk | ios and android fails that horribly | 19:30 |
| phlixi_ | i dont agree in terms of apple failing with updtes | 19:30 |
| wmarone | iOS wouldn't be where it is if it was unfriendly | 19:31 |
| wmarone | and MS pushed a compatibility layer requirement that essentially made ARM platforms somewhat PC like in terms of what was exposed to the kernel | 19:31 |
| wmarone | though there may be other features we don't know about | 19:31 |
| fzk | sure, perhaps not unfriendly, but imho there is too much finger movement to do stuff | 19:32 |
| wmarone | (it's amazing what happens when you push something like UEFI) | 19:32 |
| phlixi_ | however, if someone is STILL using an N9, if i was that one, i would wait for mwc before ordering a jolla1 | 19:32 |
| wmarone | fzk: ironic given how swipe centric Sailfish OS is | 19:32 |
| fzk | wmarone: what i meant was you gotta tap a million places to do a simple thing | 19:33 |
| fzk | gestures are nice | 19:33 |
| wmarone | beyond all of this, Jolla has to figure out how to survive as a severe niche | 19:33 |
| wmarone | particularly given how MS couldn't push a 3rd platform in mobile | 19:34 |
| wmarone | or just survive, period | 19:34 |
| * wmarone waits on the refund for his tablet that never came | 19:34 | |
| fzk | phlixi_: that sounds reasonable, exatclty what i was thinking(but.. i want it now!) | 19:34 |
| fzk | a friend of mine is also waiting for a refund | 19:35 |
| phlixi_ | fzk: i am happy if you buy a jolla now, (i assume jolla gets more money if they sell a jolla, then if once an intex device is sold...) | 19:35 |
| phlixi_ | but refund for tablet, not phone | 19:36 |
| fzk | phlixi_: stop brainf*cking me :) | 19:36 |
| phlixi_ | ^^ | 19:36 |
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| fzk | it will be a totally awesome feeling to buy the jolla1 and then if something is released: nooooo | 19:37 |
| phlixi_ | thats why i said, ...if you STILL use the n9, well, use it another month | 19:37 |
| phlixi_ | the jolla1 is now, 2jears? old? | 19:38 |
| wmarone | effectively 3 | 19:38 |
| phlixi_ | mine came 25months ago | 19:39 |
| phlixi_ | i mean using it | 19:39 |
| phlixi_ | hardware is older... | 19:39 |
| fzk | 8] | 19:40 |
| fzk | i broke my n9 screen a third time, i wont waste more money on repairing it | 19:40 |
| phlixi_ | what is the current price for an n9 on ebay? | 19:41 |
| fzk | seems to be around $80 | 19:42 |
| phlixi_ | and how much would you be willing to waste? | 19:43 |
| fzk | ok those were from china, $150-200 from eu countries | 19:43 |
| fzk | around the price of the jolla tbh | 19:43 |
| phlixi_ | thats way more than 80 | 19:44 |
| fzk | yeah, but if im getting something its better to not stay on old tech | 19:44 |
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| fzk | the interface really looks smooth in videos | 19:49 |
| phlixi_ | tbh, there are people complaining about too less ram | 19:51 |
| phlixi_ | i asume they have tons of apps open | 19:51 |
| phlixi_ | i never run in those problems | 19:51 |
| phlixi_ | but i mostly have only 4 apps open, email, browser, threema and gpodder | 19:51 |
| phlixi_ | of course sometimes more, but even then, i usually have no problems and everything is smooth | 19:52 |
| tiwake | when is the pintex or whatever cellphones with sailfishOS supposed to come out? | 19:52 |
| tiwake | "soon" probably | 19:52 |
| phlixi_ | of course SOON(tm) | 19:52 |
| tiwake | intex rather | 19:53 |
| tiwake | oh hey, jolla tablet blog update | 19:53 |
| * tiwake goes to read | 19:53 | |
| fzk | o.o | 19:54 |
| phlixi_ | i dont remember, right now i think it should have had been released already, according to the first anouncements.. got adelayed a few times. current thing afaik is, next news on mwc | 19:54 |
| tiwake | when is MWC? | 19:54 |
| phlixi_ | end of feb? | 19:54 |
| phlixi_ | usually | 19:54 |
| fzk | wonder what will happen to the tablets that are cancelled | 19:55 |
| phlixi_ | they recently wrote on the blog about it | 19:55 |
| phlixi_ | aiming for refunds and deliver 500 | 19:55 |
| phlixi_ | 540? | 19:55 |
| Lipevakala | MWC 22-25 feb.. | 19:56 |
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| fzk | i mean, will they sell those units? | 19:57 |
| tiwake | refund? meh, I want a device, not money back... | 19:57 |
| phlixi_ | i dont think you will be able to actually buy the intex aquafish or what is it called right away then | 19:57 |
| fzk | i want one so bad | 19:57 |
| phlixi_ | well then, just buy a jolla? | 20:00 |
| phlixi_ | if in april you think (and if the intex is actually avaiable then) you need one, you can still buy the intex then (if it is available in your country anyway) | 20:01 |
| phlixi_ | ...and sell the jolla on ebay | 20:01 |
| fzk | i guess. lets see what the woman in the kitchen thinks | 20:02 |
| phlixi_ | :) | 20:03 |
| cehteh | coderus: you are aware of a bug in your launcer combined patch in landscape mode, doesnt use the full width of the screen? | 20:12 |
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| chem|st | fzk: they said if one of the 540 turns down the tablet, contributer 541 will get the option | 23:44 |
| chem|st | .. and so on | 23:44 |
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| cehteh | kinda exclusive tablett ... but dead horse | 23:49 |
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