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| Lucky_luke | why we.dont have an.app for viber? | 01:05 |
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| HtheB | Lucky_luke: are there any API's available? | 01:21 |
| HtheB | and it's closed source | 01:21 |
| HtheB | Just use Android version | 01:21 |
| Lucky_luke | they ban me.from.wa | 01:22 |
| Lucky_luke | i.email the support yesterday | 01:22 |
| Lucky_luke | and.i wait | 01:22 |
| Lucky_luke | i pref to use native apps | 01:22 |
| Lucky_luke | android lag my phone | 01:22 |
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| andybranson1 | my jolla is poorly. sometimes the screen won't come on, and the LED flashes cyan. | 08:30 |
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| stephg | andybranson1: cyan not red? | 08:37 |
| andybranson1 | yup. cyan. | 08:37 |
| andybranson1 | i get red and green too at other times. sometimes it just freezes and i need to pull the battery. sometimes it reboots itself. seems like that power glitch thing, but the eraser and paper tricks haven't worked. | 08:39 |
| cehteh | sounds like you want to send it in for repairs | 08:40 |
| andybranson1 | it is more than two years old now though | 08:40 |
| andybranson1 | and i may or may not have got some ketchup down the side of the power button, which may now have gone a bit squishy :) | 08:42 |
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| cehteh | how self repairable is the jolla? | 09:04 |
| cehteh | i mean as in cleaning ketchup | 09:05 |
| * Stskeeps twitches | 09:05 | |
| chem|st | cehteh: most contact issues should be self repairable'ish | 09:05 |
| cehteh | mine is new, havent disassebled it yet | 09:05 |
| cehteh | comparable to the n900? | 09:05 |
| chem|st | cehteh: and you should not void your warranty | 09:05 |
| cehteh | i dont want to | 09:05 |
| chem|st | cehteh: there are no spare parts available | 09:06 |
| cehteh | but i am planning to use it for longer time than the warranty lasts, so eventually i may need to fix things | 09:06 |
| cehteh | ah | 09:06 |
| cehteh | well lets hope it will last 4 years and then an 'offically' supported fairphone with SFOS will be available for 300Eur ... *dream* :D | 09:07 |
| chem|st | cehteh: so the usual stuff you break like display are nonreplacable and sending it to optima will buy you a new phone (or close to it) | 09:07 |
| chem|st | cehteh: I make sure my devices last without repairs, both n900 and n9 are functional, even the batteries are still not that bad | 09:09 |
| cehteh | my n900 broke its usb port | 09:09 |
| cehteh | maybe fixable with some efforts | 09:09 |
| chem|st | well that is solderable by hand | 09:09 |
| cehteh | but i dont want to, it was nice for its time but never had enough horespower esp enough ram | 09:10 |
| chem|st | got lucky on that part | 09:10 |
| cehteh | i liked it, it worked, but it was always a bit sluggish | 09:10 |
| chem|st | cehteh: there is no such thing as enough ram (writing this sitting in front of a black beauty with 48GB...) | 09:11 |
| cehteh | haha | 09:11 |
| cehteh | there is a thing like 'waaaay to low ram'... n900 was that | 09:11 |
| cehteh | with 512MB or 1GB it should have been much much better even with the slow cpu | 09:12 |
| cehteh | jolla is okish, of course more ram would be nicer | 09:13 |
| cehteh | n900 was just not enough right from the start | 09:13 |
| kimmoli | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/538/Technologically-Impaired-Duck-Where-can-I-download--More-RAM8.jpg | 09:14 |
| cehteh | kimmoli: zram/zswap :) | 09:15 |
| cehteh | (jolla uses that iirc) | 09:15 |
| cehteh | hey you could remote mount some S3 storage and swap onto that :D | 09:15 |
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| narchi4 | when vat payment | 09:31 |
| narchi4 | og.... | 09:31 |
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| tiwake | not able to fill all tablet backers? | 09:36 |
| tiwake | I was rather looking forward to my first tablet | 09:37 |
| tiwake | though I suppose something else like a badass lintex cellphone would be nice too, with sailfishOS | 09:38 |
| tiwake | erm | 09:39 |
| tiwake | intex | 09:39 |
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| Antonino | hi all guys!! | 10:51 |
| Antonino | i want to ask you something to see if you can help me. There is something i don't like in SF menu, the scroll that is like full app view rows, i want to know if i can make it just like a scroll | 10:52 |
| Antonino | i don't if i cleared the point | 10:53 |
| coderus | mm no, i dont get :D | 10:54 |
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| jaacoppi | Antonino: you want to scroll one row of apps at a time, not one screen of apps at a time? | 11:09 |
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| Antonino | yup | 11:13 |
| Antonino | something like mmmmm windows phone | 11:13 |
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| corvinux | Hi, I'm very interested, what (IF anything), would come from the deal Jolla made with SSH .com | 11:21 |
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| Antonino | so? it isn't possible? | 11:51 |
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| till | Antonino try the "launcher combined patch" and enable "scroll without pages" in the new settings item | 12:01 |
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| JollaSailor_Simo | thanks | 12:09 |
| JollaSailor_Simo | i will find the launcher on wharehouse? | 12:09 |
| till | the patch yes | 12:10 |
| till | https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-launcher-combined-patch | 12:10 |
| JollaSailor_Simo | it fail the installation | 12:15 |
| JollaSailor_Simo | mmm maybe i have to add the repository | 12:15 |
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| * Morpog wonders what happened to that imminent sailfishos update.... | 14:44 | |
| tbr | obviously it will come soon™ | 14:45 |
| Smar | I guess work resumes after holidays :P | 14:45 |
| Morpog | soon :D | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | i think it got delayed by yet-another-libpng-exploit | 14:46 |
| Smar | unfortunate | 14:48 |
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| Morpog | I don't think you should postpone releases because of security risks. Nobody is going to attack such a small devicebase. | 15:34 |
| Morpog | Lots of Android devices never get any updates at all. | 15:35 |
| Smar | what was one branch of jolla, ”Jolla Secure (By Being Small OS)”... ;) | 15:36 |
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| Morpog | well, a branch which we cannot use on our devices :D | 15:40 |
| Smar | if the core OS is broken, I wouldn’t dare to call anything built on top of it ”secure” :P | 15:40 |
| Morpog | well, no one forces them to release that branch without the updates | 15:41 |
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| Smar | well, easier to maintain only one branch than two branches, especially with jolla’s resources | 15:44 |
| Smar | so I’d guess they don’t really backport everything to that ”branch”? | 15:44 |
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| Morpog | But they still can tag on a release of the branch, no need to wait for the latest one | 15:47 |
| Smar | I’d still rather release something that’s not known to be insecure if I wanted to give any kind of impression of caring about what I sell to my customers | 15:48 |
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| juiceme | hiya! | 17:53 |
| juiceme | Has anybody been trying to use BTLE devices on Jolla? | 17:54 |
| juiceme | I recently got a HRM belt thingy (made by MagellanGPS) and I'd like to integrate that to my system. | 17:55 |
| juiceme | I installed noble (https://github.com/sandeepmistry/noble) and did some experimenting. | 17:56 |
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| juiceme | it sems I can detect the device correctly when I do a LE scan, but cannot connect | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | juiceme: @javispedro did | 17:57 |
| juiceme | so I'm just wondering if I am doing it right... I am somewhat new to Bluetooth LE | 17:57 |
| juiceme | Stskeeps, yes, I looked over his post where he mentioned noble | 17:57 |
| juiceme | that's why I started trying it with noble first | 17:57 |
| juiceme | as I already had nodejs on my device | 17:58 |
| juiceme | My thought was to make a small jodejs script to connect and present the HRM data in a local socket | 17:59 |
| juiceme | s/jodejs/nodejs/ | 17:59 |
| juiceme | that way is could be easily used in a qt client :) | 18:00 |
| juiceme | so any pointers...? | 18:00 |
| juiceme | what I get when scanning is: | 18:00 |
| juiceme | [root@Jolla examples]# node advertisement-discovery.js | 18:01 |
| juiceme | peripheral discovered (eca6b680cd95 with address <ec:a6:b6:80:cd:95, random>, connectable true, RSSI -70: | 18:01 |
| juiceme | hello my local name is: | 18:01 |
| juiceme | HRM (Ver0.4) | 18:01 |
| juiceme | can I interest you in any of the following advertised services: | 18:01 |
| juiceme | ["180d"] | 18:01 |
| juiceme | so clearly the device is offering service 180d which most probably is the heartbeat monitoring | 18:01 |
| juiceme | however, I cannot connect to that service, the device stays in unconnected mode | 18:02 |
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| friese | http://intex.in/intex-sailfish-os/ strange... does that facebook screenshot look a bit like iOS to you too? | 18:50 |
| Nicd- | well seeing that Sailfish does not have a working Facebook app... :P | 18:51 |
| friese | true, but doesn't the android app work on sailfish (like whatsapp too)? | 18:52 |
| tadzik | it doesn't | 18:52 |
| tadzik | ? | 18:52 |
| tadzik | Facebook Lite works | 18:52 |
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| friese | facebook lite = website? the website would surely work on jolla too, theres no (at least official) dedicated app though | 18:52 |
| friese | just something i pondered onto while searching for info on the intex device - though not quite sure if i'll upgrade my jolla anytime soon | 18:53 |
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| coderus | friese: there are no screenshots on real device | 18:55 |
| coderus | just random pictures | 18:55 |
| friese | yeah sure, i get that, just thought it may be more fitting to show the version of an app that could actually work (at least if intex phone gets android support) | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | friese: intex has their own marketing | 18:56 |
| coderus | friese: oh dear, this page looks good enough, you didnt seen initial version with so ugly pictures :D | 18:57 |
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| pp | marketing dept loves photoshop | 18:57 |
| friese | yeah, it's the first time im actually looking into intex tbh | 18:58 |
| friese | i know, i know... company i work for once did an android app and printed a big app framing the app screenshot with an ipad.... | 18:58 |
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| friese | just find it funny sometimes ;) | 18:59 |
| coderus | btw, webarchive gives ssl error for you too? | 18:59 |
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| TemeV | well, it's marketing. Seems to be all lies to me | 18:59 |
| TemeV | no matter what is the product | 19:00 |
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| friese | coderus: actually, no, working perfectly fine, only snapshot i get though is from 10.12.2015 (and the site looked exactly the same back then) | 19:01 |
| friese | https://web.archive.org/web/20151210212422/http://intex.in/intex-sailfish-os/ | 19:01 |
| coderus | hm, i'm getting ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR on all my browsers, wtf | 19:02 |
| TemeV | works for me too | 19:02 |
| friese | Strange... you getting that when acessing archive.org or is that the content of the frame? | 19:02 |
| friese | looks fine to me though, opera/chrome/firefox/curl all working (on latest archlinux x64) | 19:03 |
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| friese | something special about your network? ssl proxy or sth. like that? | 19:04 |
| friese | or (damn, i looked days into that) accessing http over port 443 / https over port 80? | 19:05 |
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| friese | humm, anyone knows about the rumours the intex sailfish phone is based on the intex cloud flash? looking into it's specs, looking pretty decent (amoled ftw!!) | 19:07 |
| Nicd- | there are only rumors | 19:08 |
| friese | yeah, no denials though, so my hopes not crushed (yet) ;) | 19:09 |
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| friese | awh damn... now i'm hoping its not the cloud flash though (at least not its SoC) - not really a Fan of MediaTek... | 19:12 |
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| friese | well anyway, gotta go now... | 19:15 |
| friese | only way to be for sure is to wait until its out anyway... | 19:15 |
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| HarhaanJohtaja | http://i.imgur.com/hPsyYyG.gif this should be the intex device but you can't see much | 19:29 |
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| kimmoli | http://is13.snstatic.fi/img/658/1437022117874.jpg | 19:34 |
| kimmoli | what is this thing? | 19:34 |
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| kimmoli | sorry, old proto | 19:35 |
| laxtlo | Tuleva aqua varmaan | 19:36 |
| laxtlo | Ja edelleen jos tollasilla spekseillä mitä leakattiin niin huuto naurua saa vetää | 19:37 |
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| phlixi | the picture below "Up next is live multitasking" is quite badly shopped... however not the jolla phone | 19:40 |
| phlixi | ...but | 19:40 |
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| phlixi | the picture below "Up next is live multitasking" is obviously a Jolla Phone | 19:40 |
| phlixi | ...below "Sailfish : A step above" ... | 19:41 |
| phlixi | but both miss the status bar at top | 19:41 |
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| friese | yup, maybe with much fantasy that photoshoped rendering of an phone has some similarities to the pictures on http://www.intex.in/cloud-flash/ | 19:41 |
| friese | yup, looking like sfos1 screens to me too | 19:42 |
| kimmoli | http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/62415017.jpg | 19:42 |
| friese | Clock app too, it's been reduced to 1 Quick Action Icon in SFOS 2.0 | 19:42 |
| phlixi | and buttons at bottom | 19:43 |
| phlixi | ^^ | 19:43 |
| friese | now you're saying it, yeah... well thats clearly too obvious to me | 19:44 |
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| friese | btw, anyone else rocking their snow white toh/ambience today? fitting the weather here in germany quite nicely | 19:45 |
| Nicd- | well my tohkbd is slowly turning snow white from the corners... | 19:45 |
| friese | humm, my tohkbd is mostly sitting in the drawer these days, don't really like the feel of that 3d printing and the keys are a bit stiff for my taste | 19:46 |
| phlixi | since it took so long until the TOHKBD2 came (no offense!) i was used to virtual keyboard so much that i do not use it... since then, always black :D | 19:46 |
| Nicd- | I use it all the time | 19:46 |
| friese | nice layout though, i often take it with me for travelling when i don't wanna lug around my laptop and still have a practical ssh terminal available | 19:47 |
| phlixi | yes | 19:47 |
| phlixi | but "normal" dayly use i do not carry the bulky thing around^^ | 19:47 |
| friese | regular jolla tohs are quite nice to touch i think, got the whole pack (well, except for the angry bird one...) | 19:48 |
| phlixi | however, if the intex thingy has amoled that would be great (imho) i miss the billboard from n9 | 19:48 |
| Nicd- | I was supposed to sell my tohs to someone here | 19:48 |
| Nicd- | don't remember who | 19:48 |
| Nicd- | but they stopped responding :( | 19:49 |
| phlixi | ...i dont mind color acuracy at all ^^ | 19:49 |
| friese | thought about getting one of those lastucase covers with flip-style display cover, but think it's too late for that, my jolla took some pretty nasty scratches and falls the last 2 years... | 19:49 |
| friese | Nicd-: whatcha' got? | 19:49 |
| Nicd- | white and black | 19:50 |
| Nicd- | first one too but I don't know if I wanna sell it | 19:50 |
| friese | aw damn, exactly the one's im already having double as well... | 19:50 |
| friese | got the limited one also, though i'm keeping that in mint condition, i think i wore it just once | 19:52 |
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| friese | kinda got used to that toh-thing though... i can remember my school buddies all swapping their nokia phone covers while i had my palm treo without any swappable covers and never getting the craze | 19:53 |
| friese | now that everyone's got a black or white phone im changing my toh's almost daily | 19:53 |
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| friese | times change i guess | 19:53 |
| Nicd- | I would have changed my tohs if it would have also activated a custom ambience | 19:55 |
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| Nicd- | but that never happened so they were useless for me | 19:55 |
| phlixi | i think exactly as 20 years ago that those covers are crap... just bought it to keep jolla alive | 19:56 |
| phlixi | of course functionality is another thing, but the green cover of ma 5130 never had fuctionality besides color :) | 19:56 |
| * kimmoli <3 my wallnut toholed | 19:57 | |
| friese | humm, surprisingly though i'm a big toh fan i'm not changing ambiences that often - basically togglinh between the cutdown version of kde's breeze default wallpaper and some nice picture of the mer icon on a nice little jolla boat with the sailfish poking out of the water, god knows where i got that from, been my go-to picture since my first day with jolla | 19:58 |
| friese | toholed, nice :) thought about that too, though i'm a big fan of the kelo wood | 19:58 |
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| Nicd- | I would have loved to change background and ringtone to suit my mood | 20:02 |
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| Sailor5958 | hi | 20:03 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: silver is not shame | 21:15 |
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| Milo- | beautiful game | 21:17 |
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| pp | kimmoli: :D | 21:20 |
| locusf | hahahahha | 21:20 |
| locusf | kimmoli twist the knife some more lol | 21:21 |
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| Milo- | poor swedes though. 3-8 against usa. | 21:46 |
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