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citylight2so, in case anyone has a development eviroment up, and tried to build VLC 3.0 from source , please let me know13:06
citylight2it supports wayland13:06
stephgcitylight2: cool13:08
stephgcitylight2: may have more folks with the sdk if you chat in #sailfishos13:08
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pdanekMy Jolla came back from service.13:54
coderuswow, how long?13:54
pdanekquite quick, about 2 weeks and that was it christmas time13:55
pdanekDue to faulty loudspeaker, I received new Jolla.13:55
pdanekbox and accessories and other half are old, but the phone (without TOH) is new13:55
pdanekI just can't buy new other half on shop.jolla.com13:56
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pdanekwhy all of them are out of stock? anybody knows? it's just piece of polycarbonate13:56
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ln-i guess it's because they are out of stock.13:58
Jopeand no more have been ordered, as a logical deduction14:03
Jopehad they ordered more, they'd have stock :-D14:03
ln-surely they would order more if pdanek placed an order big enough, and paid in advance.14:07
ln-let's say 5000 pieces.14:07
Jopewhatever the moq is .. but didn't the toh spec pdf have the drawing + measurements14:08
Jopeanyone can start churning them out14:08
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pdanekso the other half campaign failed14:09
pdanekthey were unavailable in the beginning, when Jolla sales begun14:09
pdaneknow Jolla continues to sell phones but TOH are unavailable again14:09
pdanekanyway, I'm grateful for quick fix (replacement) of phone :)14:10
pdanekalthough I'm looking at getting Intex as soon as possible, so doesn't really matter that it was replaced for new piece :D14:10
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ln-well, if you think selling TOHs would be a profitable business, why not start a company and sell them yourself.14:12
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pdanekln-: I was against the whole TOH idea from the very beginning when Jolla was released, so I don't14:17
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pdanekbut Jolla did their market research and decided to be "unlike" with TOH14:17
pdanekwhich didn't go well14:17
pdanekso I stand behind my opinion that TOH campaign failed :D14:18
ln-it was and is a good idea14:18
pdanekyes14:18
pdanekbut it failed14:18
ln-good ideas tend to fail14:18
pdanektrue :)14:18
rigoit hasn't failed. You're just impatient14:19
rigoCSS took 12 years to take off14:19
Stskeepsrigo: happy new year14:22
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rigoStskeeps: happy new year to you too!! :)15:29
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Stskeepsrigo: do you by chance have any good writeups/links on how apps, even android apps, should be sandboxed/privacy protecting etc? working on this topic atm re sailfish15:30
Stskeepsprotecting individuals' data15:31
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pdanekStskeeps: So Sailfish Secure finally moving forward? Great to hear!15:56
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chem|stpdanek: sandboxing apps isn't really sailfish secure...16:06
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rigoStskeeps: yes, I have done 3 years of research on it: see http://www.strews.eu/16:18
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rigo ... but I think we should phone, because it is more a usability and interface issue16:18
Stskeepsok, we can do that one of the days16:19
* Stskeeps adds strews to his reading list16:19
rigolet me give you a more concrete URI. It mainly should prevent phoning home.16:20
rigo or at least phone home under user control16:20
rigothere is also a study by the french CNIL16:21
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* rigo will try to make a reading list16:21
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citylight2is it just me or did anyone else who uses google account saw it stop syncing16:58
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ppprobably apis for giving them fake info unless you want something else :-)17:55
ppgetIMEI() -> random()17:55
ppand yup, UI problem :-)17:56
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ppStskeeps: http://herkules.oulu.fi/thesis/nbnfioulu-201505301752.pdf may be interesting btw, tho we didn't actually do all the bits we wanted to :-)18:00
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taaemStskeeps: you work again at Jolla?18:25
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Stskeepspp: adding to reading list18:40
Stskeepstaaem: just consulting18:40
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rigoStskeeps: reading list sent18:41
rigohave to go now, CU :)18:42
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Stskeepsthanks18:42
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sakustardid here maps work on jolla?20:34
HtheBsakustar yes why?20:35
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sakustarnoticed none of my phones get gps except this one :p20:36
HtheBjolla gps sux20:37
sakustarbet its better than android20:37
HtheB...20:37
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HtheBmy N950 is litterally instant find20:38
HtheBturn on navigationm and BOOM20:38
HtheBeven inside my home20:38
HtheBhouse20:38
sakustarmy android only gets network based location20:38
sakustar:^)20:38
HtheBwhy?20:39
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comradekinguWould you be interested in a Norwegian bokmål translator?22:45
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sakustarHtheB: idk, it broke? :)23:49
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