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| lainwir3d | yay ! Unofficial build of recent ytplayer in openrepos | 10:34 |
| lainwir3d | for phone and tablet :D | 10:34 |
| lainwir3d | this was my most missed app on the tablet | 10:34 |
| phlixi_o | at least you got a reason to brag with your tab :D | 10:35 |
| lainwir3d | :D | 10:36 |
| lainwir3d | for once :P | 10:36 |
| tango_ | 8-P | 10:37 |
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| lainwir3d | well, I still had to update youtube-dl script in /usr/share/harbour-ytplayer/bin | 11:01 |
| lainwir3d | or lots of videos didn't work | 11:01 |
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| Coolgeek | just got my phone back from reapair \o/ | 11:28 |
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| coderus | Coolgeek: how long? | 11:47 |
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| Coolgeek | the repair itself, like 10 days | 11:55 |
| Coolgeek | but it took 1 month to ask me to send them my phone | 11:55 |
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| Helle | LambdaSix: can we make that illegal on a 3 strikes basis ?: | 14:50 |
| Helle | oops | 14:51 |
| Helle | mischan | 14:51 |
| * ggabriel curious now | 14:52 | |
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| baffer | I've made some funky customizations to my desktop inspired by jolla ambiences. Wallpaper is changed according to used VPN service and the wallpapers tint goes toward blue according to volume | 15:47 |
| Yaniel | sounds cool | 15:51 |
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| HtheB | Guys | 17:09 |
| HtheB | The Fairphone people will do a live stream in 50 minutes | 17:09 |
| HtheB | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ldWiyqDBuU | 17:09 |
| HtheB | we could ask some sailfish related questions to them | 17:09 |
| locusf | yeah | 17:14 |
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| phlixi_o | surprise surprise, | 17:30 |
| phlixi_o | as usual youtube does not stream to germany -.- | 17:30 |
| phlixi_o | Live Streaming ist wegen Rechteproblemen in Deutschland leider nicht möglich. Das tut uns leid. | 17:30 |
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| phlixi_o | i especially like the "Das tut uns leid." thats to english, "we are sorry"... its like an insult in german | 17:31 |
| HtheB | phlixi_o: use a proxy | 17:32 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the whole content regions thing is terrible | 17:32 |
| HtheB | just install "Tunnle Bear" | 17:32 |
| HtheB | easiest vpn | 17:32 |
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| phlixi_o | oh, i wasnt begging for help, i just amuse myself | 17:33 |
| phlixi_o | but thanks :-) | 17:33 |
| HtheB | ...? | 17:33 |
| phlixi_o | i was just amused. | 17:34 |
| HtheB | no one is begging for something | 17:34 |
| HtheB | we're a community | 17:34 |
| HtheB | we dont beg for each other ^^ | 17:34 |
| HtheB | but I would like to discuss some things with you | 17:34 |
| HtheB | like, what could we ask them | 17:34 |
| phlixi_o | and i know how to circumvent those terrible geo blocking BS | 17:34 |
| phlixi_o | yeah, begging was the wrong word :-) | 17:34 |
| r0kk3rz | the joys of multiple translation | 17:35 |
| phlixi_o | honestly i have nothign to ask them | 17:35 |
| r0kk3rz | thanks HtheB ill check out this tunnelbear thing, ive been looking for a good vpn solution | 17:36 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz there is 1 down side | 17:36 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: which is? | 17:36 |
| HtheB | free version is limited to 500MB or something | 17:36 |
| phlixi_o | in the current situation it seems ridicoulis to me to ask them about sailfish, because they already blogged about it, and i doubt jolla will (can) do anything regarding fairphone at the moment | 17:37 |
| HtheB | a month | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: oh, well that makes it useless for my intended purpose | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | i should really just get one of my friends to set up a VPN for me | 17:37 |
| HtheB | its just handy for somethings | 17:37 |
| phlixi_o | r0kk3rz: got money? | 17:37 |
| HtheB | like if you want to visit some website thats been blocked for some reasonm | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: paying money so i can access a normally free resource thanks to a region blocker? | 17:38 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i dont need it that badly | 17:38 |
| phlixi_o | https://www.shellfire.de/start/?iSwitchLanguageId=1 | 17:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | specifically i need a server in australia | 17:39 |
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| phlixi_o | well, one could argue (not in this case of course), that geoblocking might be fair (emphasising again in some cases) | 17:40 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: it is fair, as its a resource paid for by australian residents | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | its like the BBC blocking things outside of the UK | 17:41 |
| phlixi_o | exactly | 17:42 |
| r0kk3rz | but as an australian, it would be nice if they allowed me a way around the region blocker | 17:43 |
| r0kk3rz | and anyway, i have no major problem with giving away australian content to the world as it is | 17:43 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: everybody loves kangeroos | 17:44 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: i have no idea why, horrible bloody things they are :P | 17:44 |
| locusf | dropbears too | 17:44 |
| locusf | damn vampire koalas | 17:44 |
| HtheB | haha | 17:44 |
| r0kk3rz | koalas are bad enough as it is, and they make people cuddle them | 17:45 |
| r0kk3rz | oh tunnelbear doesnt have an australian server anyway, nevermind | 17:46 |
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| phlixi_o | from the top of your mind, which one is the best media player for sailfish? | 17:57 |
| phlixi_o | (for music) | 17:57 |
| phlixi_o | ...music player :D | 17:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: what do you want from it? | 17:59 |
| r0kk3rz | as there is a bunch, but they all kinda cover different usage patterns really | 17:59 |
| phlixi_o | playing music | 17:59 |
| phlixi_o | i just wanted to have a look at those where some one said "thats the best one" | 17:59 |
| phlixi_o | or "thats my favorite music player" | 18:00 |
| r0kk3rz | do you want silica? do you want a file manager interface? do you want an equaliser? | 18:00 |
| r0kk3rz | is your music reasonably tagged an accessable though jolla-media | 18:01 |
| r0kk3rz | 'playing music' is a surprisingly wide activity | 18:01 |
| phlixi_o | i just wanted to look at players where others said "thats my favorite player on sailfish" | 18:01 |
| phlixi_o | but as you seem to be not willing to answer my question :D | 18:02 |
| phlixi_o | ...i would prefer to select albums, which are folders with flacs | 18:03 |
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| phlixi_o | pretty simple i guessed, but the build in player seems to have problems, because i have a lot of albums with "0 tracks" in the list and then when i click on them there are sometime one track, sometimes more | 18:04 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: im biased because i wrote my own, thus i am trying to be a little bit objective | 18:04 |
| phlixi_o | and right now i listen to aq live thingy, and the not gapless playback is annoying, | 18:04 |
| phlixi_o | well, is it in harbour or openrepos? i will let you know if it sucks if its your favorite player :)) | 18:05 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: well it sucks if you have a usecase different to mine | 18:05 |
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| phlixi_o | i can respect that | 18:06 |
| phlixi_o | i know others have different usecases | 18:06 |
| phlixi_o | otherwise it would be not usefull to have multiple players at all | 18:06 |
| r0kk3rz | sirensong on openrepos, its reasonably limited but suits my needs | 18:06 |
| r0kk3rz | quasarmx isnt a silica app, but it is the most fully featured by far | 18:07 |
| r0kk3rz | and works well with badly tagged music | 18:07 |
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| phlixi_o | i guess it works without the patch, right? | 18:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | patch? | 18:09 |
| HtheB | Fairphone livestream has been started | 18:10 |
| HtheB | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ldWiyqDBuU | 18:10 |
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| phlixi_o | r0kk3rz: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-lockscreen-mediaplayer-controls ...in warehouse searching it looked more related to me | 18:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: that patch is for sfos1.0, if you're running sfos2.0 its not required anymore | 18:12 |
| r0kk3rz | as lockscreen controls come as standard | 18:12 |
| phlixi_o | oh, if yi sort by artist, there seems to be something broken | 18:14 |
| phlixi_o | -y | 18:14 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the tracker queries thats based on is a little bit experimental | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | it really doesnt like compilation albums | 18:15 |
| phlixi_o | i assume you are using some built in fuctions about what media i have, because "everythign is already there" just right after install | 18:16 |
| phlixi_o | ...is that "tracker"? | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | yes, i thought it was dumb to have another 'figure out whats on the phone' service | 18:16 |
| phlixi_o | is there a way to tell the tracker to ignore certain folders? | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | there is | 18:17 |
| phlixi_o | on n9 (or n900 i dont remember... maybe both) i just put a file noindexhere in the folder and that was enought (of course the actual filename was different) | 18:17 |
| r0kk3rz | https://together.jolla.com/question/5935/how-to-blacklist-directories-from-being-indexed-by-tracker/ | 18:17 |
| r0kk3rz | a .nomedia file in the folder should do it | 18:18 |
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| tj____ | ki | 18:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: if you dont like my infinite playlist idea, you can turn it off in the settings | 18:21 |
| phlixi_o | right now i am searching for how to reset the tracker :D | 18:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | tracker -se will drop and reindex | 18:22 |
| r0kk3rz | tracker-control -se sorry | 18:22 |
| r0kk3rz | and you can watch progress with tracker-control | 18:22 |
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| HtheB | yay! | 18:25 |
| HtheB | my question! | 18:25 |
| locusf | HtheB: as said, its a community port | 18:26 |
| locusf | join #sailfishos-porters to find out more as more info comes on that | 18:26 |
| HtheB | I wish Jolla could do some licensing for Android dalvik | 18:27 |
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| HtheB | so we could use the dalvik with some payment or something like that | 18:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | HtheB: i get the idea that its more than *just* licencing | 18:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | HtheB: they would also have to have a specific alien dalvik package for each android version | 18:30 |
| r0kk3rz | which might be non-trivial | 18:30 |
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| coderus | or they can announce "goodbye jolla" any time in near future, who knows | 18:31 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: why is that so? | 18:32 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: i believe it specifically relates to the BSP of the device in question | 18:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | but since its a proprietary solution, we dont really know exactly how it works | 18:33 |
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| locusf | its made by Myriad | 18:34 |
| locusf | another company | 18:35 |
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| locusf | Myriad already made a solution in MeeGo times | 18:37 |
| phlixi_o | r0kk3rz: ok tracker is "fixed" and your player is running... | 18:37 |
| phlixi_o | ...so far i like it | 18:37 |
| phlixi_o | :-) | 18:37 |
| phlixi_o | is there an option to enque albums? | 18:37 |
| HtheB | locusf: yes, and they showed a middle finger to us :P | 18:37 |
| HtheB | and told us to go f*ck ourselfs :( | 18:38 |
| locusf | http://mynokiablog.com/2011/02/08/myriad-announces-%E2%80%98alien-dalvik%E2%80%99-android-apps-to-run-on-our-nokias/ | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: thats a glaring omission at this stage | 18:38 |
| HtheB | locusf: i know that.... the problem is that they never shared it, nor Nokia did a license | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | theres probably a bunch of things like that, i mostly use the alpha menu and just random-all | 18:38 |
| HtheB | nor they did a license thing for private users | 18:38 |
| locusf | HtheB: SOL I guess | 18:40 |
| phlixi_o | r0kk3rz: and it seems to add two tracks when i tap at one | 18:40 |
| phlixi_o | r0kk3rz: just let me know if you are not interested into feedback :-) | 18:40 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: thats my special feature | 18:41 |
| r0kk3rz | when you reach the end of the play queue, it will queue more | 18:41 |
| phlixi_o | ah ok, now thats funny, try tracks with multiple artists, it gets listed a few times now :-) | 18:42 |
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| HtheB | Jolla should do some webinar aswell | 18:44 |
| HtheB | to answer all kinds of questions about the situation as well | 18:44 |
| HtheB | kudos to Fairphone! | 18:45 |
| phlixi_o | well, thats #mer-meeting isnt it? | 18:45 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi_o: yeah the artist view needs attention | 18:45 |
| dirkvl | ¨we will give updates on deliver three times a week¨ | 18:45 |
| HtheB | phlixi_o: A live video is much more appreciated :) | 18:45 |
| dirkvl | thats maybe even too much | 18:45 |
| phlixi_o | if there is no money to waste i prefer the cheap chat and focus the money where neede :D | 18:46 |
| HtheB | phlixi_o: it wouldn't cost anything if they leave the office once 30-40 minutes later... | 18:47 |
| phlixi_o | nothing is free, and video is mopre expensive than video | 18:47 |
| phlixi_o | ... no matter what :D | 18:47 |
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| HtheB | phlixi what the f are you talking about?... | 20:51 |
| HtheB | just put on a webcam and have a live stream... | 20:52 |
| HtheB | not big-a deal | 20:52 |
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| Raim | HtheB: and show what? a single person in the office reading questions from IRC aloud? | 20:59 |
| Raim | I am unable to understand how that is supposed to be better | 21:00 |
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| HtheB | raim | 21:00 |
| HtheB | not everyone uses IRC ¬¬ | 21:00 |
| Raim | then point them to the freenode webchat | 21:01 |
| HtheB | seriously, people should stop thinking that everyone should be like themselfs.... | 21:01 |
| HtheB | that includes you as well Raim | 21:01 |
| Raim | I don't, but you still have not explained what your proposal is. | 21:02 |
| Raim | what do you want to stream? what is the expected benefit? | 21:02 |
| HtheB | The Fairphone guys just made some simple Q&A a couple hours ago on YouTube | 21:02 |
| HtheB | a simple QA on YouTube would be enough | 21:02 |
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| HtheB | seeing someone in person while answering some questions is much more appreciated | 21:03 |
| Stskeeps | HtheB: yeah, but you have to remember that at the current rage level, people would run lie detectors and facial tic analysis on the feed.. | 21:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:03 |
| HtheB | :D | 21:03 |
| HtheB | This is why the internet was invented for :P | 21:04 |
| pdanek | For anyone interested: "Live Q&A. Ask us anything about the Fairphone 2" https://youtu.be/0ldWiyqDBuU | 21:04 |
| HtheB | pdanek: https://youtu.be/0ldWiyqDBuU?t=20m45s | 21:06 |
| HtheB | ;) | 21:06 |
| pdanek | Is that guy really keeping all those stones and cat on his daily desk? | 21:06 |
| pdanek | Or he just put it there for making this video? If so.... WHY? | 21:07 |
| pdanek | :D | 21:07 |
| HtheB | pdanek: neh, just a decoration | 21:07 |
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| HtheB | so it won't be too dull :P | 21:07 |
| pdanek | :D | 21:07 |
| HtheB | decoration for the video * | 21:07 |
| pdanek | HtheB: much more interesting question would be if AlienDalvik will be supported on Sailfish in Fairphone | 21:09 |
| pdanek | I'm afraid it will be "no"? | 21:12 |
| pdanek | So it could be nogo for majority of Sailfish users. | 21:12 |
| cehteh | means no android support on fairphone with SFOS at all? | 21:14 |
| pdanek | cehteh: well, Android Support is licensed per device | 21:15 |
| pdanek | cehteh: so I don't think Android Support in SFOS will be on Fairphone | 21:15 |
| pdanek | it's a community port after all | 21:16 |
| pdanek | Same as port to Nexus 5 etc. | 21:16 |
| cehteh | yeah but thats really a deathpin .. i'd like native apps but there are not enough | 21:16 |
| pdanek | cehteh: yes, it's deathpin for me too | 21:16 |
| cehteh | so far i considered SFOS on other devices a tech-demo | 21:17 |
| cehteh | but i had hopes for fairphone to become something serious | 21:17 |
| pdanek | cehteh: that's why I don't care much about Fairphone but waiting for new Intex device as soon as possible, because Intex will come with Android Support for sure | 21:17 |
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| cehteh | doh | 21:17 |
| pdanek | cehteh: I might be wrong | 21:17 |
| cehteh | well the fairphone is too expensive for a lot people anyway | 21:17 |
| pdanek | true | 21:18 |
| pdanek | although I'm sure a lot of people from community are willing to pay a lot | 21:19 |
| pdanek | just because there is just no other phone available | 21:19 |
| cehteh | i like the idea, but i wont spend *that* much money on it | 21:19 |
| pdanek | I still have hopes for Sailfish revival and Intex | 21:20 |
| pdanek | Intex was selling Android, Firefox OS and planning Sailfish | 21:20 |
| pdanek | now FFOS is out of the game | 21:20 |
| cehteh | firefox os is dead | 21:20 |
| pdanek | so Sailfish is only "other" platform they have in hands | 21:20 |
| cehteh | did u missed the news? | 21:20 |
| cehteh | ah ok | 21:21 |
| pdanek | I didn't, just slow writing :) | 21:21 |
| pdanek | :D | 21:21 |
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| pdanek | cehteh: but it's not dead | 21:21 |
| cehteh | i had some hopes that ffos would sustain as just another player, prolly wont like it but its existence would be good | 21:21 |
| pdanek | it's dead on smartphones, supposedly it should continue on internet of things devices | 21:22 |
| cehteh | well now it may be a lil better chance for sfos to get some traction .. but that might be 0.1% better only | 21:22 |
| cehteh | iot needs far less than ffbloatware :D | 21:22 |
| cehteh | firefox on arduino ... lol :D | 21:22 |
| pdanek | Sailfish toaster! the hype! | 21:23 |
| cehteh | moment what was yesterdays bug of the day ... *search* | 21:23 |
| HtheB | pdanek: it is indeed No | 21:24 |
| HtheB | because it's a community port, and there is no license | 21:24 |
| pdanek | HtheB: thanks! | 21:24 |
| HtheB | :( | 21:24 |
| pdanek | cehteh: so here ya go, no android support on Fairphone | 21:24 |
| cehteh | https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/calendar/UhfpcwO0X0c/paA4iQNen9IJ | 21:24 |
| HtheB | Myriad is the one who makes the Android support | 21:24 |
| cehteh | would be nice if fairphone could support sfos officially .. but they are a startup with rather tight (but openly communicated) budget as well | 21:25 |
| cehteh | so for now i just with they have success and sustain | 21:26 |
| pdanek | Should we make new crowdfunding campaign for Sailfish powered toasters? | 21:26 |
| cehteh | with some success a fairphone3 (or even the fairphone2) could be cheaper when there is more demand | 21:26 |
| pdanek | I think it can save Jolla! | 21:27 |
| cehteh | lol | 21:27 |
| cehteh | sfos kettle :D | 21:27 |
| pdanek | At least everyone who's seen Red Dwarf would buy it. | 21:27 |
| cehteh | we dont need a toaster here but kettle might be useful | 21:28 |
| cehteh | the current one has some microcontroller and sometimes stucks and beeps | 21:28 |
| cehteh | i hate this .. i'd like some open sourced kettle where i can ssh to | 21:29 |
| cehteh | turn it on from the desk the water is hot when i go to the kitchen | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | cehteh: and who delivers the water to the kettle? | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | the IoT faucet of course | 21:29 |
| cehteh | we allways keep it filled here | 21:29 |
| cehteh | because the tap water is chalky here .. so one fills up the kettle and boils it once to let the chalk fall out | 21:30 |
| pdanek | cehteh: or it could transform... now kettle, in 5 min toaster, then rice cooker, then shark with lasers and finally back into Jolla form when finished breakfast and leaving house | 21:30 |
| cehteh | also on another channel i just talked about pimping a kettle for sousvide cooking .. that needs exact temperature control | 21:31 |
| pdanek | cehteh: I have seen people to cook sausages in kettle | 21:31 |
| cehteh | yes sure | 21:32 |
| cehteh | but 'normal' kettles dont have good temperature control | 21:32 |
| cehteh | even if they are adjustable as a few .. they have +/- 2-5° | 21:32 |
| cehteh | C | 21:32 |
| pdanek | Stskeeps: You can try to contact some of the big refridgerator brands if they're interested in using Mer in it. | 21:34 |
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| Stskeeps | pdanek: https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/calendar/UhfpcwO0X0c/paA4iQNen9IJ | 21:38 |
| cehteh | Stskeeps: i just posted that :) | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:38 |
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| Ezko | http://www.jollausers.com/2015/02/mobile-internet-via-usb-tethering/ has anyone done this? usb connection tethering from phone | 23:37 |
| Ezko | says file not found | 23:37 |
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| phdeswer | Ezko: should work. There is also an alternative option with connman | 23:40 |
| Ezko | file not found :( | 23:41 |
| phdeswer | pkcon search name internet (should show you at least two usb-moded config packages) | 23:41 |
| Ezko | ah | 23:41 |
| phdeswer | Maybe you should also do a pkcon refresh first? | 23:41 |
| Ezko | found connman | 23:42 |
| Ezko | i'll do that | 23:42 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Ezko: I'm using the tethered USB version. Works like a charm. | 23:42 |
| phdeswer | Well they both work, just slightly different under the hood. | 23:43 |
| Ezko | AmadeusXNet_: using what? the one in those instructions? | 23:43 |
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| AmadeusXNet_ | Ezko: http://www.jollausers.com/2015/02/mobile-internet-via-usb-tethering/ | 23:43 |
| Ezko | umm wtf, i can actually find the file with search but it won't install | 23:44 |
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| phdeswer | pkcon refresh. Probably outdated repo information | 23:44 |
| Ezko | ty | 23:45 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Remember to be devel-su | 23:46 |
| Ezko | yea i've done it | 23:47 |
| Ezko | pkcon refresh said authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?) | 23:47 |
| phdeswer | sounds like a repository issue | 23:49 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Ezko: https://together.jolla.com/question/3944/fatal-error-authentication-failed-is-ssu-set-up-correctly/ | 23:50 |
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| phdeswer | Ezko: Anyway if you want it installed now without messing with packages. You need to add this file ( https://github.com/philippedeswert/usb-moded/blob/master/config/dyn-modes/connection_sharing-android-connman.ini )to /etc/usb-moded/dyn-modes and then systemctl restart usb-moded | 23:53 |
| Ezko | ah | 23:55 |
| pdanek | H5OS, hmmmm | 23:55 |
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| pdanek | http://www.cnet.com/news/startup-acadine-picks-up-the-torch-for-mozillas-troubled-firefox-os/ | 23:56 |
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