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| Aciid | Which comes first Jolla tablet or the repoman? | 01:01 |
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| Lieke_ | oh look, more spam | 06:04 |
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| Aciid | https://twitter.com/AciidXOR/status/663598504930123776 | 06:08 |
| Aciid | cast your votes | 06:08 |
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| pp_ | ooh, jolla has a slot at slush | 06:25 |
| pp_ | "Jolla: the impossible story continues", Jolla shares the next chapter in their journey. | 06:25 |
| Aciid | probably a story about manufacturing plant in china | 06:26 |
| Aciid | and a few hundred kids castin this tablet that was gonna ship back in may | 06:27 |
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| Laxtlo | jolla will release batterys for jolla phone in slush ;) | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | Laxtlo: powered by tears? | 06:58 |
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| Laxtlo | Stskeeps : just joking i dont need battery anymore | 07:11 |
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| flux | I wonder if they are going to release another batch of them. ever :) | 07:18 |
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| flux | btw, does the tablet have a replaceable battery?-o I guess no? | 07:18 |
| flux | well, easily replaceable that is :) | 07:18 |
| Laxtlo | wast of time to release batterys anymore | 07:20 |
| Laxtlo | that train went already | 07:20 |
| * pp_ now has 3 :-) | 07:20 | |
| pp_ | one unused, one somewhat used and one totally usable | 07:21 |
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| entil | what in the name of balls is this shit, android whatsapp quit starting up, so I rebooted the phone thinking memory issues and now it - tadah - still does not start up | 08:06 |
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| entil | aaand clearing the app cache through settings made it start up - totally unresponsive | 08:19 |
| Nicd- | talking about whatsapp, I set it up in my IRC client :P | 08:25 |
| Nicd- | now just need to set up notifications to my phone | 08:25 |
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| entil | how supported is that? | 08:27 |
| entil | I've been blocked already once for using an unauthorized client so I'm not exactly excited about going that way | 08:28 |
| entil | and irc on the phone is not my thing | 08:28 |
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| cehteh | just dont use whatsapp .. get some xmpp account and fine | 08:29 |
| entil | oh yeah, the freetard approach, "magically change the world" | 08:30 |
| entil | got whatsapp going now though, so no worries, but got me scared for a while | 08:30 |
| entil | I'm proud enough of the fact that I got my girlfriend using my owncloud setup | 08:31 |
| Lieke_ | there's nothing magic about it, you just have to start changing the world | 08:31 |
| entil | not exclusively tho :/ | 08:31 |
| TemeV | cehteh: the latter part your line is not necessary. I mean, I don't need to get xmpp account to be not able to reach my friends | 08:31 |
| entil | change the world by jerking off alone on a chat no one else cares about :P | 08:31 |
| Lieke_ | if people care about you, you won't be alone ;) | 08:32 |
| entil | "honey, if you love me, install signal" | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't it strike you that in a massive peer to peer age, we can't just communicate person to person directly, instead of this federated mess? | 08:33 |
| TemeV | Lieke_: yes, but xmpp is not a solution there | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:33 |
| cehteh | :D | 08:33 |
| fennekki | a good XMPP client just doesn't exist | 08:34 |
| the_mgt | people only use xmpp when they do not know they are using it | 08:34 |
| Nicd- | entil: not supported at all. but one friend left facebook and is still on whatsapp so I thought I would use it until I got blocked | 08:35 |
| fennekki | something with the look-and-feel and ease of use of whatsapp and on every major platform is needed for that | 08:35 |
| Mikaela | I use Communi Sailfish connected to ZNC connected to BitlBee | 08:35 |
| fennekki | and that idea is pretty much dead ever since google killed their XMPP thingy | 08:35 |
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| the_mgt | I have openfire and spark installed at some clients sites. they love it. although spark is so ugly it smells | 08:35 |
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| the_mgt | but that is only locally, at work, none of them would consider using it for private stuff | 08:36 |
| entil | I use signal and whatsapp, both for android, because no one ever gave a shit about textsecure/signal on sailfish (except the guy who wrote a go client for ubuntuphone, suggested I figure out how to compile go for sailfish and try it out) and mitakuuluu3 seems kinda dead | 08:36 |
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| TemeV | Biggest problem with XMPP is that I can only send messages when both are online | 08:36 |
| fennekki | compiling go for sailfish isn't actually a real issue | 08:36 |
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| entil | fennekki: I am interested in tips | 08:37 |
| fennekki | like | 08:37 |
| fennekki | I'D ASSUME I mean | 08:37 |
| cehteh | there are extensions for servers to buffer messages | 08:37 |
| entil | as interested in tips as I'm disillusioned about this thing with chats | 08:37 |
| fennekki | most things seem to Just Work if you target the right EABI | 08:37 |
| Helle | yep and they are now starting to be commonly deployed on the server side | 08:37 |
| Helle | just not on all clients | 08:37 |
| entil | I don't know anything about go | 08:37 |
| fennekki | me neither but I'd assume cross-compilers are a thing. Or, hell, I guess you could compile the go compiler for a Jolla | 08:38 |
| fennekki | hmm | 08:38 |
| entil | https://github.com/janimo/textsecure-qml | 08:38 |
| the_mgt | TemeV: buffering works fine on openfire. but I would not use a java based xmpp server as my main communication channel. also I can't get my head around installing an ssl cert. they started blocking self signed certs with a new release | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | fennekki: you don't bother to, go makes static binaries | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | fennekki: you can http://dave.cheney.net/2015/08/22/cross-compilation-with-go-1-5 | 08:39 |
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| fennekki | hmmh | 08:39 |
| entil | Stskeeps: is GOARCH=arm and GOOS=linux all it'd take for that? | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | as far as i can tell | 08:40 |
| entil | Stskeeps: then of course the rpm | 08:40 |
| entil | and the qml files | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know about the qml part | 08:40 |
| fennekki | it's in QML so if it works with the QT version on Sailfish | 08:40 |
| fennekki | hm | 08:40 |
| fennekki | it MIGHT work | 08:40 |
| entil | ubuntu phone uses qml but obviously the base pages are different | 08:40 |
| cehteh | btw .. whatsapp uses xmpp internall iirc .. they only build their propietary island around | 08:40 |
| fennekki | oh, and I guess you could get the x86 sailfish emulator and compile it there? | 08:40 |
| TemeV | the_mgt: oh well, if that is solved then it has a chance. Though, I doubt I could convince too many people to change away from something everyone else uses | 08:40 |
| fennekki | cehteh: that's extremely shit | 08:40 |
| fennekki | god dammit | 08:41 |
| fennekki | if they DO use xmpp why not epxose it | 08:41 |
| entil | I do not want to compile in an emulator because then I'd have to install the go compiler and stuff | 08:41 |
| cehteh | binding customers? | 08:41 |
| entil | not sure that xmpp thing is true by a long shot but of course you want vendor lock-in | 08:41 |
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| entil | so you can hide spyware in your client | 08:41 |
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| entil | and you don't have to support the shittiest xmpp in the world someone just whipped up the day before yesterday and insists on using it | 08:42 |
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| the_mgt | TemeV: that "changing people to use something else" is the problem. usually sheeple run to a new service and were the masses are, there is the new chatting service. | 08:42 |
| TemeV | yeah | 08:44 |
| entil | the problem with whatsapp is that it's really damned convenient | 08:44 |
| fennekki | you don't really have to support nonstandard implementations anyway unless they're dominant | 08:44 |
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| AmadeusXNet | Anyone who knows how to fix evdev mice? The pointer disappears by moving around. | 11:05 |
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| coderus | disappears? pointer? | 12:14 |
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| AmadeusXNet | coderus I sent you a PM (instead of spamming here) | 12:22 |
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| GRnet | any news about j2 ? | 13:49 |
| Yaniel | guess | 13:50 |
| GRnet | we stay with j1 ? :P | 13:51 |
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| TemeV | My phone has started to nag me about "problem with store" every once and a while | 14:04 |
| TemeV | even if I don't have store open | 14:04 |
| TemeV | funny thing is that the store works | 14:04 |
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| coderus | stop using zypper | 14:30 |
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| TemeV | I don't use zypper | 14:32 |
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| coderus | then go to utilities and recreate packages cache | 14:59 |
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| TemeV | oh yeah, I should have thought of that, thanks coderus | 15:13 |
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| baum | just updated my phone - now i got an option "take a selfie" - trolls... | 20:46 |
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| noume | baum: One of the first shortcuts i removed | 21:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | i removed all of them | 21:12 |
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| fennekki | hey | 23:17 |
| fennekki | does anyone know of a way to change the default directory for an email account from inbox to something else? | 23:18 |
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