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| stephg | (also store updates aren't deletetable from the homescreen | 10:32 |
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| stephg | my internets go wibble, ignore me | 10:33 |
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| lainwir3d | :o | 12:07 |
| lainwir3d | mail for the tablet received | 12:07 |
| TMavica | Test | 12:08 |
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| ggabriel | lainwir3d: really? more detail? | 12:09 |
| lainwir3d | ggabriel: wait | 12:09 |
| lainwir3d | i'm completing the details | 12:09 |
| lainwir3d | i want it FIRST ! :P | 12:09 |
| ggabriel | lainwir3d: go for it, then tell us :) | 12:10 |
| lainwir3d | hehe | 12:10 |
| lainwir3d | i'm hesitating for the powerbank usb | 12:10 |
| lainwir3d | how much does that cost usually ? it's at 35,50$ | 12:11 |
| lainwir3d | 2xusb travel charger at 18.50$ | 12:11 |
| tbr | tends to depend on capacity and brand | 12:11 |
| lainwir3d | insmat screen protector at 18.50$ | 12:11 |
| lainwir3d | "Insmat 9000 mAh Power Bank" 35.50$ | 12:11 |
| lainwir3d | seems to be a 39€ usually. And on jolla store at 31€ | 12:12 |
| * tbr is not a good reference for those things, builds his powerbanks himself and stuff | 12:13 | |
| tbr | and used some kits that were nice and cheap without cells, as I had a lot of spare cells from old laptop packs | 12:13 |
| lainwir3d | usb charger is 2xUSB 3.1 | 12:14 |
| lainwir3d | nice, i'm taking one | 12:14 |
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| tbr | the tablet isn't 3.1 nor type C, so no fast charging :/ | 12:14 |
| lardman | I see a comment by Juhani: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-differences-old-new-hardware/ | 12:14 |
| coderus | is fast charging depends on usb type? o_O | 12:15 |
| lainwir3d | tax for tablet + latsu + mapbagrag is 61$ USD | 12:15 |
| ggabriel | lainwir3d: which country are you from if you don't mind saying? | 12:16 |
| lainwir3d | france | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | ok, not bad | 12:16 |
| lainwir3d | i'm hesitating on the insmat screen protector... | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | congratulations on being part of the testing team :) | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | don't you have a case? | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | why screen protector if you have a case? | 12:17 |
| lainwir3d | don't know. Paranoïa ? | 12:17 |
| lainwir3d | lol | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | just a piece of kit | 12:17 |
| meklu | aww yeah | 12:17 |
| coderus | need tempered glass for tablet | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | there will be other tablets | 12:17 |
| meklu | taxes paid | 12:17 |
| lainwir3d | testing team ? You mean the first people to get it ? :P | 12:17 |
| meklu | now we'll wait | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | lainwir3d: yup, _apparently_ they were going to start with a small subset | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | to test that everything works | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | then they'll unleash the hounds | 12:18 |
| lainwir3d | huuuuh. I hope that everything works then or I'm screwed. | 12:18 |
| entil | durr hurr, what's this with suddenly having to pay extra tax on the tablet? | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | lainwir3d: the idea is that they'll have the capacity to deal with you if you have a problem. if you paid already, mission accomplished i'd say | 12:18 |
| pp_ | it was communicated from the start, price doesn't include VAT | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | entil: read the campaign | 12:18 |
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| entil | ok | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | it's been said from day 1 | 12:18 |
| lainwir3d | well, i'm taking the screen protector just in case, i'll not be cheeky for 18$ after all that i paid lol | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | lainwir3d: lol | 12:19 |
| entil | actually I don't care about or mind paying, it's just the why | 12:19 |
| entil | maybe that's also in the campaign | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | entil: tl;dr you didn't pay tax when you contributed | 12:19 |
| pp_ | your government is greedy | 12:19 |
| meklu | it's hauled from asia | 12:19 |
| lainwir3d | and more money to jolla isn't entirely bad | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | and you have to pay tax | 12:19 |
| meklu | and tax rates vary | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | and you also have to die | 12:19 |
| meklu | yadda yadda | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | those 2 things, you can't avoid | 12:19 |
| pp_ | and the tablet is shipped from asia (you're paying jolla hong kong, not jolla oy, I believe) | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | pp_: that's unconfirmed though | 12:20 |
| entil | oh yeah, I probably expected to pay taxes when it hit customs or something, not online like this | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | lainwir3d: did you pay .fr tax? | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | entil: those are different :) vat != import taxes | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | so you still may have to pay more | 12:20 |
| lainwir3d | no, vat is just written for the moment on the shopping cart page | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | but what's the %age? | 12:22 |
| lardman | new blog post :) | 12:22 |
| * tbr expects this to be import-vat equivalent | 12:23 | |
| ggabriel | pp_: you may be right wrt shipped from hk directly | 12:24 |
| ggabriel | or maybe not, now that i read on | 12:24 |
| lainwir3d | difficult to evaluate tablet taxes 'cause of all the accesories i'm taking | 12:24 |
| lainwir3d | $75.50 of taxes | 12:25 |
| lainwir3d | at checking out | 12:25 |
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| lainwir3d | including tablet + screen protector + usb charger + power bank | 12:26 |
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| _inte_ | My tablet is shippig :-) | 12:27 |
| lardman | In France you pay VAT + import duty? | 12:27 |
| * lardman thinks the UK will only be VAT | 12:27 | |
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| _inte_ | 49$ VAT for case and tablet grr | 12:27 |
| _inte_ | strangly it was something like 61 before I changed my address | 12:28 |
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| ggabriel | uk should be the same as .fr | 12:28 |
| ggabriel | so, .fi vat really | 12:28 |
| lainwir3d | ok. Finished | 12:28 |
| ggabriel | assuming they are delievered from .fi | 12:28 |
| ggabriel | lainwir3d: \o/ | 12:28 |
| Helle | ggabriel: not anymore | 12:28 |
| ggabriel | now, up to 10 days | 12:29 |
| ggabriel | working days* | 12:29 |
| ggabriel | Helle: huh? | 12:29 |
| Helle | ggabriel: the new EU e-commerce regulations went into effect | 12:29 |
| ggabriel | Helle: interesting... source? | 12:29 |
| entil | haha that one | 12:29 |
| _inte_ | my order number is 14000000XX | 12:29 |
| Helle | which mean that VAT is now payable in the country of the person buying it and at that amount | 12:29 |
| entil | the business killer | 12:29 |
| _inte_ | does that mean im within the first 100 group? | 12:29 |
| entil | you need to know the country of the buyer and that country's vat percent | 12:29 |
| Helle | ah, looks like they may be able to dodge it | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | surely you need to implement all this in each country | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | but share a link if you have one | 12:30 |
| lardman | _inte_: I wonder if I should contact Jolla to say I mis-spelled my address, quoting my order #... ;) | 12:31 |
| ggabriel | don't get me wrong, i want to pay uk tax :) | 12:31 |
| ggabriel | lardman: you only need to try 9 times ;) | 12:31 |
| Helle | http://www.webretailer.com/lean-commerce/european-ecommerce-vat/ | 12:31 |
| _inte_ | lardman: depends pretty much on how worse you misspelled it and how well you know you postman :-) | 12:31 |
| Helle | note, it is a marketing blurby post | 12:31 |
| Helle | can't find something non-blurby right now | 12:31 |
| lardman | _inte_: :) | 12:31 |
| Helle | because I am busy beating up a coder | 12:31 |
| FireFly | Poor coder | 12:32 |
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| Helle | FireFly: then he shouldn't write a library I can remove 80% of the code from, keep the API compatible and run just as fast | 12:32 |
| pp_ | hmpf, nooo mail yet, paypal receipt is Nov 19 09:19:22 :P | 12:33 |
| lainwir3d | got my confirmation mail | 12:34 |
| lainwir3d | so happy | 12:34 |
| _inte_ | lainwir3d: jey! | 12:34 |
| lainwir3d | Now I hope I won't have too much trouble from being one of the first | 12:35 |
| _inte_ | well | 12:35 |
| _inte_ | should be fine | 12:35 |
| _inte_ | i got my phone in 2013 and it was ok | 12:36 |
| * lardman wonders what the per-order-week totals are, to project when one is likely to receive an invite | 12:36 | |
| pp_ | mine needed magic duct tape eventually | 12:36 |
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| lainwir3d | hehe, mine needed it too | 12:40 |
| lainwir3d | bought too much accessories >_> I don't know when to stop when it's about jolla | 12:41 |
| lainwir3d | "If your shipping address is in the European Union, Norway or Switzerland, taxes and customs fees will be calculated at checkout and they will be payable at the time of placing the order." | 12:42 |
| lainwir3d | So yeah, no more taxes for me it seems | 12:42 |
| tadzik | hmm, I'm pretty sure my "Humble Bundle" app is starting in the background even though it's not allowed to | 12:42 |
| lainwir3d | "For customers in the USA, Australia, Hong Kong, Canada, India or Russia: you will be required to pay applicable local tax and customs fees once the parcel reaches the destination country. " | 12:42 |
| tadzik | I haven't started it in the last month or so, but I do get bi-weekly notifications faom it | 12:43 |
| tbr | that might be the google push notification framework though | 12:44 |
| tadzik | argh | 12:44 |
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| ggabriel | Helle: that article is in line with my understanding | 12:45 |
| ggabriel | i doubt jolla exceeded any country's threshold :) | 12:46 |
| Helle | ggabriel: I wouldn't be surprised, but yeah they may be able to stay under it | 12:47 |
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| _inte_ | pp_: no sim card slot in the tablet, so this issue shouldnt appear :) | 12:47 |
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| ggabriel | lol, i've just tested that my email works, just in case | 12:49 |
| ggabriel | i'm like a teenager expecting a text from someone special | 12:50 |
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| pp_ | it could be in your spam folder too! | 12:50 |
| ggabriel | don't have one :) | 12:51 |
| lainwir3d | hehe | 12:51 |
| lainwir3d | now it can take up to 10 days apparently before shipping. | 12:52 |
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| lainwir3d | We'll see when someone gets the first "shipping email" | 12:52 |
| ggabriel | 10 working days | 12:52 |
| lainwir3d | yeah, working days. Even worse. | 12:52 |
| ggabriel | at least it isn't soon | 12:52 |
| ggabriel | and it says "up to" | 12:52 |
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| lainwir3d | :) | 12:53 |
| ggabriel | i see boxes in the photo too | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | so not sure any more hw tweaks are outstanding | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | unless they are empty boxen | 12:54 |
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| pp_ | heh, phones are now sold with SFOS 2.0 "may take 10-20 days for dispatch" | 13:00 |
| lainwir3d | I hope buying accessories won't delay the shipping lol :P | 13:00 |
| _inte_ | Mine should be delivered before 6th of october | 13:05 |
| _inte_ | lainwir3d: wich date did they give for you shipment? | 13:05 |
| lainwir3d | is it written somewhere ? | 13:05 |
| lainwir3d | must have missed it | 13:05 |
| lainwir3d | it's written 10working days before dispatch, and 5~7 for shipping so before 13th of october I guess, but I have no clearer dates | 13:08 |
| pp_ | heh, don't those boxes say "Manufactured 10 2015" in the picture? | 13:08 |
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| lainwir3d | pp_: are you actually suggesting that they have a working time machine ? | 13:09 |
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| _inte_ | Were all of you who received the invitation now in the first sailors perk? | 13:15 |
| _inte_ | Some first sailors appear to have not received an invitation yet, according to tjc | 13:16 |
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| RaYmAn | that custom thing is puzzling..Does it mean they import all the tablets into EU, pay taxes and ship them from there? | 13:20 |
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| chem|st | RaYmAn: you can presign imports, we do it for close to everything imported from non-eu | 13:29 |
| RaYmAn | chem|st: you mean like the eBay prepaid import tax programme? | 13:30 |
| chem|st | alike, that works different as it is an ebay service the resellers use | 13:31 |
| TheBootroo|home | hum | 13:31 |
| chem|st | they ship to a company that reships | 13:31 |
| chem|st | that company does the presign | 13:31 |
| TheBootroo|home | what about Aigo X86 tablet ? it looks to be the EXACT same look and specs as jolla tablet !!! Who copied who ? | 13:32 |
| TheBootroo|home | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umUOfIBX9HA | 13:32 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: specs? nope not even close | 13:32 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: it is a reference design it seems | 13:32 |
| chem|st | aigo isn't the first to show up | 13:32 |
| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: aigo copied Jolla design and changed colors ? | 13:32 |
| chem|st | but slightly different specs | 13:33 |
| RaYmAn | I'm not familiar with presigning, but I've seen a lot of cases with prepaid taxes, where the local tax agency charged tax anyways, meaning double tax. (mainly they refused to believe it was paid/never got any money) | 13:33 |
| chem|st | RaYmAn: bad shipping company | 13:33 |
| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: everything is identical : same shape, same position of camera, same buttons on the side... | 13:33 |
| chem|st | RaYmAn: and you have a receipt where you already paid taxes, don't you? | 13:33 |
| TheBootroo|home | chinese are strong when it comes to clone something | 13:34 |
| RaYmAn | chem|st: it's the national post service that has done it. | 13:34 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: which part of reference design didn't you understand? | 13:34 |
| TheBootroo|home | but i really hope jolla didn't use some premade intel tablet case | 13:34 |
| chem|st | RaYmAn: they do what they get charged with | 13:34 |
| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: 'reference' can mean Aigo use jolla as a reference, or jolla & aigo used intel reference platform | 13:35 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: the other device we spotted in (iirc) korea is just the same looks but plastic backcover, and the specs are 1/2 of Jolla | 13:35 |
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| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: so it's a clone | 13:36 |
| TheBootroo|home | just like they used to clone ipad, iphone, and any other sucessful device | 13:36 |
| chem|st | I don't know who owns the design, but by the looks it is not Jolla | 13:36 |
| TheBootroo|home | if it's the case, it's good news for jolla, it means it's seen as a good design | 13:36 |
| chem|st | that's true | 13:37 |
| TheBootroo|home | i'm trying to get clear about it, be jolla tablet website says "designed in finland" | 13:37 |
| TheBootroo|home | so if design is not from jolla, it's not designed in finland anymore | 13:37 |
| chem|st | if it is a genuine design, Jolla is gonna do something about it | 13:38 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: maybe it is designed in finland, just not by jolla | 13:38 |
| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: or maybe it's just generic chinese stuff customized in finland | 13:40 |
| TheBootroo|home | just like some tomato salsa is named "made in italia" but it's just chinese tomato that were put in a can by italian people | 13:42 |
| TheBootroo|home | anyway jolla won't be doing HW for long | 13:42 |
| TheBootroo|home | that at least is clear for anyone | 13:42 |
| RaYmAn | wasn't it pretty clear that was the case from the beginning? I thought it was. The hardware was OEM design with some hw decisions made by jolla and then they focus on what they do best: Software. | 13:42 |
| _inte_ | Hope they come up with a new phone shortly | 13:42 |
| TheBootroo|home | jolla will focus on sailfish only | 13:42 |
| _inte_ | hw seems a bit limited | 13:42 |
| _inte_ | in terms of ram | 13:42 |
| TheBootroo|home | _inte_: they probably won't | 13:42 |
| _inte_ | cpu power | 13:43 |
| _inte_ | ... | 13:43 |
| _inte_ | they have to | 13:43 |
| TheBootroo|home | they will more likely work hard on adapting sailfish on more and more android flaships | 13:43 |
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| _inte_ | or they need a partner | 13:43 |
| _inte_ | they should maybe talk to nokia for a collaboration | 13:43 |
| _inte_ | for instance | 13:43 |
| TheBootroo|home | and try to make some big manufacturer create a phone will sailfish instead of android | 13:43 |
| _inte_ | i like the phone but i need some more power | 13:43 |
| TheBootroo|home | _inte_: nokia is doomed | 13:44 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: you misunderstood, they branch out hardware into a new company, most probably to split investors and protect the core (SFOS) from companies interested in HW | 13:44 |
| _inte_ | nokia is just next door, so why not nock there? | 13:44 |
| _inte_ | chem|st: but isnt that new company focusing on encrypted/secure devices? | 13:44 |
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| chem|st | _inte_: I'd bet that they are working close together and the reason why there is no Jolla2 is that Nokia is releasing their first new flagship on 2016-01-01 with SFOS | 13:45 |
| TheBootroo|home | RaYmAn: at the begining, by OEM i understood "premade PCB", not the full tablet (i really thought that the rounded design was jolla-made) | 13:45 |
| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: sources ? | 13:46 |
| chem|st | _inte_: 3 companies but one isn't Jolla... SSH+Jolla is a joint venture to create SFsecure | 13:46 |
| Raim | chem|st: just *after* christmas would probably be the worst time to announce a new device... | 13:46 |
| TheBootroo|home | i wouldn't be surprised if nokia would output one more android non-sense | 13:46 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: for what? | 13:46 |
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| TheBootroo|home | Nokia HW + Jolla SW would be perfect, but it's really NOT gonna happen | 13:47 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: which part of "I'd bet" didn't you understand | 13:47 |
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| TheBootroo|home | stop dreaming alive y'all Nokia fans | 13:47 |
| TheBootroo|home | (i'm part of it, but i stopped dreaming) | 13:47 |
| Helle | TheBootroo|home: unless the Finnish goverment makes it so :P | 13:47 |
| chem|st | Raim: they are not allowed to earlier | 13:48 |
| Nicd- | what does the government have to do with iT? | 13:48 |
| TheBootroo|home | i had N95, 5800XM, N97mini, N900, N950, and now Jolla | 13:48 |
| PeperJohnny | Nokia cannot announce a new phone before 2016 because of contracts with microsoft | 13:48 |
| _inte_ | who cares about christmas | 13:48 |
| chem|st | and that :) | 13:48 |
| TheBootroo|home | nokia was bought any stolen by µsoft, and after this they did android tablet | 13:48 |
| Raim | chem|st: I know. my guess is Nokia will announce something at MWC in February. | 13:48 |
| _inte_ | was just a coincidence i received my jolla around christmas 2013 :) | 13:48 |
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| _inte_ | probably the only phone i bought around christmas | 13:49 |
| _inte_ | anyways | 13:49 |
| TheBootroo|home | if they would do SFOS phone i would definitely buy it, but i reall don't count on it | 13:49 |
| _inte_ | gtg | 13:49 |
| _inte_ | lets hope for new hardware! | 13:49 |
| _inte_ | bye | 13:49 |
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| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: they were not dumb at all, they sold all the old garbage to µsoft and licensed them everything else, with a non-compete till 2016 | 13:50 |
| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: yeah but now nokia doesn't have research center anymore | 13:50 |
| TheBootroo|home | (except for cellular technologies) | 13:51 |
| TheBootroo|home | all people designing phones re gone | 13:51 |
| TheBootroo|home | *are | 13:51 |
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| TheBootroo|home | i don't see how they would create a phone now, except by sub-contracting with some chinese company, which would probably create an android platform | 13:52 |
| TheBootroo|home | but then again, let's wait and see | 13:52 |
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| chem|st | TheBootroo|home: lets do another mindless guess, how about Jolla Mobile being a Nokia Jolla joint-venture | 13:52 |
| tbr | everyone uses ODMs nowadays, even Nokia did while they were still doing phones | 13:53 |
| TheBootroo|home | chem|st: that wouldn't be a good news for jolla | 13:53 |
| PeperJohnny | And to put the cherry on this guess. Marc dillon left because he didn't want to go back to Nokia or work with them^^ | 13:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: I don't expect this I guess | 13:54 |
| TheBootroo|home | µsoft now have trojans in nokia headquarters | 13:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Jolla cut the ropes with nokia | 13:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TheBootroo|home: they are gone | 13:54 |
| TheBootroo|home | so if jolla merges with jolla, µsoft will just kill it | 13:54 |
| TheBootroo|home | so if jolla merges with nokia | 13:54 |
| chem|st | PeperJohnny: another guess, he is the actual glue in between and people like marc, valerio and others that are in misterious relations to Jolla now are gonna popup as Jolla Mobile CEO CCO COO and so on | 13:55 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and thanks for using the only distinctive key on the french keyboard, => µ <= | 13:55 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: wishful thinking, I'd love to have Nokia hardware with Jolla software, actually I want a N900 like device with Jolla software... | 13:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: only blackberry is making sliders these days :( | 13:56 |
| TheBootroo|home | +1 | 13:56 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: or a BB passport with SFOS | 13:57 |
| TheBootroo|home | nokia flagship with mini hdmi video out, sliding kbd, pureview apn, and undestructible case | 13:57 |
| TheBootroo|home | and SFOS 2.x on it | 13:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: BB passeport is a nice HW | 13:57 |
| tbr | are we in wishful thinking again? | 13:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | too bad it's locked as hell | 13:57 |
| TheBootroo|home | even 650€ i would buy it (i bought N9 that price) | 13:57 |
| PeperJohnny | tbr: never left :D | 13:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (and too bad they are still using Qt4) | 13:58 |
| TheBootroo|home | SfietKonstantinW: rly ? | 13:58 |
| TheBootroo|home | after all thi time ? | 13:58 |
| chem|st | I want a hardware keyboard... it is just the same with cars and phones now as it was with TVs and Displays 10 years ago... industry decides what people have to want... | 13:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TheBootroo|home: well pureview went to MS I guess, and undestructible cases went to MS too | 13:58 |
| TheBootroo|home | SfietKonstantinW: fffffuuuuuuuuuu | 13:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but +1 for hdmi out, hw kbd | 13:58 |
| * SfietKonstantinW don't care about camera | 13:58 | |
| PeperJohnny | chem|st: they always do | 13:59 |
| TheBootroo|home | that's what i was sayin : nokia nowadays is just castrated | 13:59 |
| TheBootroo|home | 80% of their interesting stuff is now in Lumia | 13:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TheBootroo|home: their cascades thing is based on Qt 4, the Qt 5 port has been removed from upstream :/ | 13:59 |
| TheBootroo|home | and thus won't be in hypotetical Nokia Jolla Mobile | 13:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | IMO, if you want to have hw innovation, see chinese odms | 13:59 |
| chem|st | PeperJohnny: but I do not want a limousine just as much as I do not want 16:9 displays just as I do not want touch only devices | 14:00 |
| TheBootroo|home | SfietKonstantinW: yeah, dreaming awake of an Oppo or Meizu with SFOS | 14:00 |
| PeperJohnny | chem|st: me neither, but apparently we're not to decide :/ | 14:00 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I want the tablet ... | 14:01 |
| TheBootroo|home | also want the Nokia Clear Black display for legibility in sunlight and really dark black pixels | 14:02 |
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| PeperJohnny | Well if we had the same modular design for smartphones like for pcs, everything would look a lot better imho | 14:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | PeperJohnny: sadly we are still waiting for project Ara to deliver something | 14:04 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | HAHA, got my mail | 14:05 |
| PeperJohnny | yep it get's postponed and postponed | 14:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it was filtered to my TJC folder | 14:05 |
| PeperJohnny | congrats | 14:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :/ | 14:06 |
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| chem|st | BBerry24: on ported devices? | 14:50 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: I want a bugatti ... | 14:51 |
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| BBerry24 | @ | 14:53 |
| BBerry24 | @chem on,,one blackberryplaybook | 14:54 |
| chem|st | ok you just been referrencing... and that it still is 2.3.3... | 14:55 |
| chem|st | so we can actually be glad to have 4.2 runtime | 14:56 |
| Smar | it also works :P | 14:56 |
| chem|st | hehe | 14:56 |
| BBerry24 | what.ABOUT5.0 | 15:03 |
| Smar | I wanna sf 3 ~ | 15:03 |
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| BBerry24 | playbook isnicenote | 15:05 |
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| attah | Why is it that the jolla store is always full of weird brokenness? | 15:54 |
| ggabriel | worked fine for me today... | 15:55 |
| attah | It works.. it's just a pita to guess the bugs that you have to work around | 15:55 |
| attah | It requires a phone number.. but it can't be in a "shipping address", it has to be in the regular address | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | works fine=no bugs | 15:56 |
| attah | :P | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | oh, you mean shop.jolla.com | 15:56 |
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| attah | ah, yes.. sorry for abiguity | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | 1234567890 | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | that one works | 15:56 |
| attah | i prefer to receive my stuff though ;) | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | you won't receive it by phone ;) | 15:57 |
| attah | the shipping company might call | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | loll | 15:57 |
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| ggabriel | sorry, had to laugh a bit | 15:57 |
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| attah | why? | 15:58 |
| ggabriel | esp if it continues to be fedex | 15:58 |
| attah | they work fine for me (and call) | 15:58 |
| ggabriel | because they normally gently touch your door with their fingertips, wait 10ns, leave a "sorry, couldn't reach you" slip | 15:58 |
| ggabriel | they must like you :) | 15:58 |
| attah | haha.. they can't even get in that far where i live | 15:58 |
| attah | although to be fair that's only because i live close to work | 15:59 |
| ggabriel | tablet should fit the letter slot though | 15:59 |
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| attah | as i said.. they can't get that far here | 16:00 |
| attah | it's just the regular mail that has the code | 16:00 |
| ggabriel | oic | 16:00 |
| attah | and as always there is no option to provide it, but still they are pissed that you don't | 16:00 |
| attah | well, not fedex.. they call | 16:01 |
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| zebbiz_pi | My Jolla phone is here! | 16:14 |
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| zebbiz_pi | But why can I only download update 11 and not 16? | 16:15 |
| Coolgeek | you have to do through progressive update | 16:16 |
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| v2px | I wish I had the money for a new phone. My Jolla died a month ago and now I'm lost in the dumbphone world. And can't even use mobile internet with my new, soon to be shipped tablet :( | 16:24 |
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| zebbiz_pi | Coolgeek: Yeah, I had to get 11 first, then 16 | 16:30 |
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| FireFly | v2px: :\ died how? | 16:43 |
| v2px | I dropped it | 16:43 |
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| sea-gull | hello! During the buying procedure I noticed that there's a discount for the jolla phone, does anybody know how to get it? | 17:04 |
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| pp_ | hmpf, indiegogo has me listed as "united states" and my email vas "unverified" | 17:22 |
| pp_ | fixed but hopefully nothing to do with me missing any invite :D | 17:23 |
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| zebbiz_pi | How is the IRC app? | 17:28 |
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| v2px | I liked it | 17:30 |
| zebbiz_pi | RIP v2px's Jolla :'( | 17:33 |
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| zebbiz_pi | Anyone know how to set the camera to rotate but not the rest of the system? | 20:40 |
| phlixi | i htink this does not make sense, since its a physical sensor... | 20:44 |
| phlixi | ..but maybe i get you wrong | 20:44 |
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| zebbiz_pi | phlixi: On my old phone I could turn off auto-rotate, but the pictures taken with the camera would still be affected by the way I held my phone | 20:46 |
| zebbiz_pi | When I turn off auto-rotate with the Jolla, everything is in portrait mode | 20:47 |
| zebbiz_pi | Even the camera when I hold it in landscape | 20:47 |
| zebbiz_pi | phlixi: Do you get my problem? | 20:50 |
| zebbiz_pi | Youtube works fine, that rotates correctly | 20:52 |
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| zebbiz_pi | wait | 20:53 |
| zebbiz_pi | no it doesn't | 20:54 |
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| phlixi | zebbiz_pi: ok, makes more sense now, but you could still mean two different things: 1.) the UI of the camera app to rotate (while everything else should not rotate) or 2.) the format how the pictures taken are saved | 21:48 |
| phlixi | for 1.) there might be a patch on openrepos, for 2.) i have no idea.... | 21:49 |
| phlixi | (actually i have no idea regarding 1.) as well, but there are some patches to make apps rotate...) | 21:49 |
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