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| cristi | coderus: it worked, the device booted up | 00:02 |
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| cristi | now the problem is it doesn't have networking, it keeps asking me to reboot it, but that doesn't help | 00:03 |
| coderus | install update via mobile network | 00:04 |
| coderus | or try depmod modules, probably it doesnt loaded because you changed kernel version non traditional way :D | 00:05 |
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| cristi | I don't have developer support enabled | 00:15 |
| cristi | since for some reasons that needs the jolla account, which can't be set up without network | 00:16 |
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| cristi | is there a way to install the developer mode while from the recovery shell? | 00:28 |
| cristi | I have networking but there's no zypper | 00:28 |
| cristi | and indeed, the kernel version is not matching | 00:29 |
| TemeV | AFAIK, you need to install FingerTerm etc packages from the internet | 00:29 |
| cristi | uname -r | 00:29 |
| cristi | 3.4.106.20150416.1 | 00:29 |
| cristi | bash-3.2# ls /lib/modules/ | 00:29 |
| cristi | 3.4.91.20140612.1 | 00:29 |
| cristi | I need a way to update | 00:30 |
| cristi | the kernel modules | 00:30 |
| TemeV | sorry, I didn't read backlog, what version are you updating? | 00:31 |
| cristi | I tried to update to 2.0, but that completely corrupted the filesystem (most libraries went south) and I had to reflash it | 00:31 |
| cristi | after I reflashed the wireless network won't start | 00:32 |
| TemeV | do you have any internet connection? | 00:32 |
| cristi | it seems the modules are older than the kernel I have running | 00:32 |
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| cristi | yes, I am connected via the USB cable | 00:33 |
| cristi | and I'm in the recovery shell, I have it mounted and I'm in the chroot | 00:33 |
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| cristi | I guess I need a way to trigger an OS upgrade | 00:34 |
| cristi | I expect that to change the kernel version and/or the modules | 00:34 |
| cristi | or I can recover the modules from my backup | 00:35 |
| cristi | I did a full FS dump before I had it reflashed | 00:35 |
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| TemeV | what does "ssu re" say? | 00:36 |
| TemeV | (as root) | 00:36 |
| cristi | ssu re | 00:36 |
| cristi | connman not AVAILABLE | 00:36 |
| cristi | Device release is currently: 1.0.8.19 | 00:36 |
| TemeV | ok, that's unexpected | 00:36 |
| TemeV | if you're brave try "version --dup" but I don't take any responsibility if you convert your phone to a brick | 00:38 |
| cristi | it's fresh | 00:38 |
| cristi | I mean freshly reflashed | 00:38 |
| cristi | can it completely get bricked? | 00:38 |
| TemeV | I think I should also mention that I'm "a bit" drunk so any instruction from me is unreliable :p | 00:39 |
| cristi | :) | 00:39 |
| cristi | the thing is a lot of things are not working from the chroot | 00:39 |
| TemeV | have you gone the factory reset way already= | 00:39 |
| TemeV | ? | 00:39 |
| cristi | yes | 00:39 |
| cristi | I think I just need to get my kernel version in sync with the modules | 00:40 |
| cristi | or the other way round | 00:40 |
| TemeV | if you factory reset everything should be "in sync" | 00:40 |
| cristi | I did a dd over netcat, flashing the storage partition | 00:41 |
| cristi | but that didn't change the kernel I was running | 00:42 |
| cristi | I'll do a factory reset now | 00:42 |
| TemeV | oh, hardcore factory reset | 00:42 |
| TemeV | I'd suggest factory reset from recovery mode | 00:42 |
| coderus | cristi: mobile network not working too? | 00:42 |
| coderus | you need to reinstall kernel-adaptation-sbj | 00:45 |
| cristi | I don't have SIM for it | 00:46 |
| coderus | oh :D | 00:46 |
| cristi | I had it reset | 00:47 |
| cristi | fingers crossed :) | 00:47 |
| TemeV | cristi: but you are connected to internet, right? | 00:48 |
| cristi | I can chat in here, therefore I am :) | 00:48 |
| TemeV | :p | 00:49 |
| TemeV | What I mean is your phone is connected... | 00:49 |
| cristi | we'll see soon :) | 00:49 |
| TemeV | anyway, save all the logs you can, if something goes wrong, it is possible to find something useful from the logs | 00:50 |
| cristi | it worked | 00:51 |
| cristi | :D | 00:51 |
| TemeV | what did? | 00:51 |
| cristi | I needed to reset it properly, dd didn't change the kernel to match what was in the disk image | 00:51 |
| cristi | I think the kernel is imaged somewhere else | 00:51 |
| TemeV | So your phone is working now? | 00:53 |
| cristi | yes, at least I have network :) | 00:53 |
| TemeV | well, that's a start | 00:54 |
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| TemeV | cristi: please tell us if you problem is solved or if there is still some issues | 00:57 |
| cristi | it's all good, now just I need to apply all the 20 updates one by one and restore from my backups | 00:57 |
| cristi | thanks guys, you helped me a lot | 00:57 |
| coderus | cristi: coderus.openrepos.net/jollarecovery/kernel-adaptation-sbj-3.4.91.20140612.1-10.22.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 00:57 |
| coderus | next time install this package after dd image | 00:58 |
| TemeV | what? You should only need like three steps to update to current version | 00:58 |
| cristi | thanks, I'll keep in mind | 00:58 |
| TemeV | not 20 | 00:58 |
| cristi | now downloading Yliaanan.... | 00:59 |
| cristi | fuck, who comes up with these impossible names ? :) | 00:59 |
| TemeV | some stupid finns | 00:59 |
| TemeV | If you're downloading Yliaavanlampi there is only a couple of versions after that | 01:00 |
| fennekki | cristi: they're all names of actual lakes in Finland | 01:01 |
| fennekki | lots to choose from | 01:01 |
| cristi | hmm, the download exits prematurely | 01:01 |
| fennekki | I recall Finland having a few hundred thousand lakes | 01:01 |
| TemeV | there is like 100k "registered" lakes | 01:02 |
| cristi | almost more than people, I reckon :) | 01:02 |
| fennekki | "There are 187,888 lakes in Finland larger than 5 ares (500 square metres)." | 01:03 |
| TemeV | a lake for every 50 person or something like that | 01:03 |
| TemeV | If you count every puddle I'm sure there is more lakes than people in Finland :) | 01:04 |
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| Nicd- | somehow we are known for our lakes even though sweden and norway have more than we do | 07:19 |
| Nicd- | whoops, was responding to some hours old chat :P | 07:19 |
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| jaacoppi | finland has way more water area compared to land area than sweden or norway | 08:19 |
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| Nicd- | does the jolla phone have exfat support? | 08:58 |
| coderus | jolla phone? hm. i think memory module can be repartitioned as exfat with no problems. | 09:02 |
| Helle | Nicd-: officially no, exFAT is a patent encumbered piece of crap | 09:03 |
| Helle | in practice, sure, but you'll have to compile it yourself | 09:03 |
| Nicd- | ah | 09:03 |
| Nicd- | so fat32 it is then | 09:03 |
| Helle | Nicd-: or ext/{2..4} | 09:04 |
| Helle | depending on what you plan on doing exactly | 09:04 |
| Nicd- | just using my memory card to store stuff | 09:04 |
| Nicd- | no huge files | 09:04 |
| Helle | Nicd-: I'm using ext/4 for it myself, but I have some files over 4GB, so yeah | 09:04 |
| Nicd- | guess I might as well format it as ext4 | 09:05 |
| Nicd- | just need to install ext4 drivers for my mac | 09:05 |
| Helle | for the tablet there was a discussion of SDXC support, but SDXC support requires exFAT and hence licensing a rather toxic patent, so officially the tablet also only supports SDHC, though you can reformat a 128GB card just fine | 09:05 |
| Nicd- | actually I think they went for SDXC | 09:05 |
| Helle | Nicd-: no, they dropped that | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | "MicroSD slot (up to 128 GB*)" | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | in the specs | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | you can't say that without SDXC and exfat support | 09:06 |
| Helle | Nicd-: note the * | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | "* Support for this feature coming in SW update during 2015" | 09:06 |
| Helle | Nicd-: oh, it before said depending on filesystem | 09:06 |
| Helle | anyway :) | 09:07 |
| Helle | that's the rough deal of it | 09:07 |
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| Nicd- | oh damn it | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | my backups from before restoring the phone don't have .config for some reason | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | I lost all my carbudget history :( | 09:18 |
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| M4rtinK | ...and that's why I rsync the whole /home/nemo folder somewhere safe | 09:19 |
| M4rtinK | the built-in backup functionality unfortunately does not cover even all official apps | 09:19 |
| M4rtinK | and has zero support for backing-up third party apps | 09:20 |
| M4rtinK | even though all of them store data in quite specifif location, so it would not be that difficult to add | 09:21 |
| Nicd- | I did backup with rsync | 09:21 |
| Nicd- | but apparently I failed :( | 09:21 |
| M4rtinK | oops :P | 09:21 |
| * Stskeeps hands out pitchforsks | 09:21 | |
| Stskeeps | -s | 09:21 |
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| pp_ | :-) | 09:26 |
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| pp_ | oh right, I still need to recover some android app settings (well, game progress) from my nemo backup tarball :P | 09:27 |
| pp_ | don't want to replay hill climb racing | 09:27 |
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| coderus | pp_: you think your android games settings are in nemo partition? :D | 09:56 |
| coderus | Nicd-: using memory card and reattach it every time to device is very bad strategy imho | 09:57 |
| Nicd- | coderus: what? | 09:58 |
| Nicd- | reattach when? | 09:58 |
| coderus | to connect it to pc or other devices | 09:58 |
| coderus | i think memory card should be always formatted in native device filesystem, and when you connect device to pc it should provide compatible protocols to access your data | 09:59 |
| coderus | your sdcard filesystem can be not directly compatible on pc | 09:59 |
| pp_ | coderus: argggg :D I think got the right dirs tho | 09:59 |
| coderus | but phone should provide you a way to read/write on it | 09:59 |
| coderus | pp_: i think everything saves in /data/data/packagename | 10:00 |
| Nicd- | coderus: thing is at some point the phone will die or be reset and I will want the stuff from the memory card | 10:00 |
| Nicd- | so I have to be able to read it | 10:00 |
| Nicd- | but as I said I can install ext read drivers on OS X | 10:01 |
| pp_ | then again, I haven't actually needed it for > 6 months :-) | 10:01 |
| coderus | Nicd-: well :D | 10:02 |
| coderus | "everybody dies" | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | hmmm | 10:11 |
| Nicd- | I repartitioned the memory card with fdisk and rebooted the phone but it still has the old partition table | 10:11 |
| Nicd- | (and no, I didn't repartition the phone my accident :P) | 10:11 |
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| Nicd- | no matter what I do to it it is still shown as W95 FAT32 | 10:22 |
| Nicd- | in fdisk | 10:22 |
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| Victor | hi | 11:15 |
| tadzik | hi Victor | 11:19 |
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| Helle | j/wi52 | 11:37 |
| Helle | oops | 11:37 |
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| tadzik | <shameless tjc advertising> https://together.jolla.com/question/109366/calendar-and-the-definition-of-upcoming/ | 12:06 |
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| tadzik | hah! tjc is constant gratification: http://imgur.com/CXbJS34 | 12:19 |
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| Tofe | tadzik: oh, I wasn't aware this item wasn't already created. +1. | 14:15 |
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| Tegu | does anybody know how to install a root certificate so that the android apps use it? atm only native apps seem to use it | 15:16 |
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| coderus | using some android filemanager/browser? :) | 15:18 |
| Tegu | I tried android firefox but apparently it uses its own certificatse | 15:18 |
| Tegu | but a filemanager, hm.. any recommendations? | 15:19 |
| coderus | no, i didn;t tried, just suggesting | 15:25 |
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| Tegu | opera just does nothing when trying to access the certificate :/ firefox installed it but only uses it internally | 16:14 |
| coderus | so what do you need cert in android for? | 16:15 |
| Tegu | just for the lulz. that is, intercepting https traffic :D nothing strictly needed | 16:16 |
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| coderus | i can intercept traffic with no certificates | 16:18 |
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| coderus | installing iptables rule | 16:18 |
| Tegu | I managed to intercept https traffic of native apps already, but apparently android apps don't use the same certificates | 16:18 |
| Tegu | coderus: HTTPS traffic as well? | 16:19 |
| Tegu | if yes, please tell how | 16:19 |
| coderus | to charles or mitmproxy | 16:19 |
| Tegu | without installing certificates? | 16:19 |
| coderus | ah no, there was some android app installing root certificates for mitm | 16:20 |
| coderus | even in play store i think | 16:20 |
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| Tegu | on android it's apparently via settings (or not sure if that's root cert..), but that doesn't work on dalvik | 16:22 |
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| coderus | yeah it will be great to have working android settings on jolla :) | 16:29 |
| Tegu | you do have them? :o | 16:30 |
| coderus | no | 16:30 |
| Tegu | or wait nvm. "will" | 16:30 |
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| Tegu | you mean they are coming? is it confirmed? | 16:32 |
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| Tegu | because "will" wasn't really conditional :P | 16:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | s/will/would | 16:35 |
| Tegu | :) | 16:35 |
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| Tegu | phew, found this finally: http://patrick.vande-walle.eu/software/adding-ssl-root-certificates-to-android-ics-and-jellybean/ | 17:03 |
| Tegu | I followed that and now it works | 17:04 |
| coderus | so, works? | 17:04 |
| coderus | cool :) | 17:04 |
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| Tegu | or I mainly checked the cert location and that openssl command. earlier I tried the openssl command in here but it apparently had wrong parameters (and openssl 1.0) https://together.jolla.com/question/2949/where-can-i-add-a-system-ca-certificate/ | 17:06 |
| niaou | coderus any news for mazelock for 1.9 ? | 17:06 |
| coderus | niaou: no | 17:07 |
| coderus | what news you want? | 17:07 |
| Tegu | on jolla the location was /opt/alien/.. instead of those, though | 17:07 |
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| niaou | working version? | 17:07 |
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| coderus | niaou: i will make it when i have time | 17:10 |
| niaou | ok that news i want ty :) | 17:10 |
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