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Stskeeps|laptopphdeswer: when is the usual deadline for main track talks on fosdem?05:08
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phdeswerStskeeps|laptop: should check, but if you have an idea let me know and I'll pass it on to the people doing it06:22
Stskeeps|laptopoki06:22
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Coolgeekhey06:40
Coolgeekyesterday I used waze (GPS + data enable. bluetooth disable) and got into issue : lost GPS signal with a clear sky, phone rebooted in the middle of the trip, asked me twice to input my pin code, ...06:41
Coolgeekis there some known issue ?06:41
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Stskeeps|laptopCoolgeek: waze takes huuuge amounts of energy so may cause the battery issue, contact care regarding your reboot issues06:45
tbrthe-issue™ - best treated by carefully cleaning the contact surfaces06:46
CoolgeekI even with power cord pluged in ?06:50
Stskeeps|laptopok, that may be more like total stall of system and watchdogging06:52
Stskeeps|laptopi have same problem with waze fwiw06:52
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Coolgeekhmmm, is this a problem in the android compatibility layer ?06:53
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Stskeeps|laptopmore like that waze is a i/o and cpu hog06:56
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CoolgeekDo I have to use something else ?06:58
Coolgeekdo you have suggestions ?06:59
Stskeeps|laptopwell, waze is a fantastic app .. but here maps perhaps?06:59
mcfrisksigh, releaf. update worked. Now I guess need to apply patches again to make music player usable for me.06:59
pp_certified duct tape too07:00
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CoolgeekI thought it was a heat problem, making hardware going crazy07:05
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Stskeeps|laptopmorn rigo08:26
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rigomoin Stskeeps|laptop08:32
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tabaskoso, whatsup client is also now obsolote?08:39
tabaskoyesterday it disconnected and cant get to connect back08:39
tabaskotime to ditch whatsapp then08:39
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Nicd-tabasko: whatsup was abandoned after legal threats afaik08:47
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tabaskoNicd-: nice08:51
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pp_hmn, looks like my "new" jolla needs certified duct tape09:08
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Stskeeps|laptopmoo faenil09:18
faenilStskeeps|laptop: o/09:18
faenilhow you doing09:18
Stskeeps|laptopforgot the key for my irssi server LUKS..09:19
Stskeeps|laptop:P09:19
faenilooouch09:20
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Lipevakala_F**k, folders gone. All icons re-arranged.10:48
Lipevakala_Happened all the time with N9, first time now with Jolla...10:49
Stskeeps|laptoppossibly the same code10:50
SfietKonstantinWpossibly btrfs too ?10:51
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Lipevakala_Yeah, phone was in my pocet and i was runnin back and fort to the elevator and unfergrpund garage.... so phone lost singnal often...11:00
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Laxtlojou11:19
Laxtlotäällähän on porukkaa kuin meren mutaa11:19
Stskeeps|laptoptry english?11:19
Laxtlojust saying hi :)11:20
Yanielthere's #jollasuomi too11:20
Laxtlolots of people here11:20
ggabrielhard to say hi en suomi11:20
Laxtlosmall talk ;)11:20
ggabriels/en/in11:20
Laxtlookey good to know11:20
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adherryI have a question13:03
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adherryis it illegal to kill people that commit smtp passwords to github?13:03
Nicd-sadly yes13:03
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adherrydarn13:03
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dr_gogeta86adherry, illegal ... but sometime necessary :-D13:18
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Nicd-there was just an article about some guy who put his AWS credentials in a private repo... then a visual studio git plugin bug made the repo public on github and he lost $6500 when bots started using his account13:20
WntI really like the more flat appearance of pulley menus in Sailfis OS 2! http://upload.egarden.fi/eineheminlampi.mp413:23
adherrywhen will sailfish 2 come out?13:25
adherryNicd- I see the problem there, he used visual studio13:29
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Nicd-adherry: 2.0 will be in EA next week13:35
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Nicd-assuming Finnish journalists got the info correctly (would not surprise me if they were wrong)13:35
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coderusadherry: only if commit YOURS password14:03
coderusWnt: actually new pulley menus are awful for me :(14:04
coderusthere is a delay before action executes also, which is very WTF for me14:04
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adherrywell I gave some other students a mail address and pw for an app that we develop for a lecture14:05
adherryand some idiot committed the pw14:05
adherryand my provider came like “hey, you seem to be spamming”14:05
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Coolg33khey14:23
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Coolg33kis it possible to launch an app with a value of nice = 1 ?14:24
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Coolg33kI want to launch waze but with a nive value that it don't hurt to much the CPU / data chip / GPS chip, allowing them to not heat to much, preventing issue15:01
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Coolg33kis there a way to do this ?15:01
Coolg33knice*15:01
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Coolg33kright now, it is running with a value of -8. Modifying the .desktop to add "nice -n 1" before the command line does nothing15:03
Coolg33kI would like it to run with -5 or even 015:04
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Nicd-maybe make a shell script that runs it with your desired nice level18:16
Nicd-Coolg33k: and then make the desktop run that shell script18:16
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Coolg33kNicd-: I tried to modify the command line into the .desktop (I think it's the same as launching it from the command line)18:17
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Coolg33kit's an android software, so it use apkd-launch (or something like that) to actually launch the software18:18
Coolg33kI think it fork to waze and quit after,18:18
Coolg33klaunching the launcher with nice doesn't seems to work then18:18
Coolg33kand didn't find any option or config file for this launcher to play with18:19
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silver_hookI tried to copy the backups to the SD (on u16), but I get an error saying “Problem with copying to memory card”18:20
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silver_hookThe SD card is ext4 and otherwise works just fine.18:20
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silver_hookWhat ownership do I have to put on the card for it to be RW on both Jolla and my (GNU/Linux) laptop?18:20
Coolg33kthe user on jolla is "nemo"18:21
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Coolg33kif you have dev mode activated, you could launch a terminal and type 'id nemo' to find the id18:21
r0kk3rzjust 777 it and it shouldnt worry about the owner18:22
Nicd-Coolg33k: sometimes launchers don't run command line stuff like you would expect them to, it's simpler to make the launcher launch a script and set the options there18:22
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silver_hookr0kk3rz: I was thinking about that …I mean it’s just a bleedin’ SD card.18:22
r0kk3rzexactly18:22
silver_hookUnless it’s encrypted, it’s meant to be passed around.18:22
Coolg33khmmm18:22
Coolg33kwill try to launch it from command line to check, but little hope18:23
r0kk3rzsilver_hook: the fact that its ext should be encryption enough for most purposes18:25
silver_hookTeehee18:25
silver_hookBTW, `su -` should work, right? Or is it like on MeeGo where there was a special command for that?18:26
r0kk3rzdevel-su18:26
silver_hookr0kk3rz: Thanks18:27
silver_hookIs there a default pass?18:27
r0kk3rzits your developer mode password18:27
Coolg33kdoesn't work as well via command line18:28
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silver_hookr0kk3rz: The number code that I had to type into to open up the dev mode doesn’t work.18:31
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r0kk3rzsilver_hook: not the lock screen code18:33
r0kk3rzsilver_hook: the same as your ssh password18:33
silver_hook…the internet sharing one?18:34
r0kk3rzno18:34
silver_hookI’m sorry, I just factory-resetted my device and am a bit lost.18:35
r0kk3rzin settings, in developer mode18:35
r0kk3rztheres a box for a password18:35
Coolg33kwhen you enable dev mode, you can type a password to access your phone via ssh18:35
Coolg33kit's that password18:35
r0kk3rzits whatever you set in there18:35
silver_hookr0kk3rz: Found it. Sorry, I’m very stupid.18:36
r0kk3rzall good18:36
Venemo_tbjhey18:36
r0kk3rzmoo Venemo_tbj18:40
Venemo_tbjmoo r0kk3rz what's up?18:41
r0kk3rznot much, procrastinating cooking dinner and listening to the new sword album18:41
r0kk3rzyou?18:41
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Venemo_tbjsitting on the sofa ircing on the jolla18:49
Venemo_tbjfeeling a bit lazy18:49
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TemeVwhat is a good android store?20:28
TemeVIs there some store which as some level of qa? To prevent at least some of the malware20:29
TemeV*has20:29
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attahTeme: aptoide?20:36
attahalso probably amazon20:36
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r0kk3rzf-secure20:37
TemeVattah: isn't aptoide considered non-secure?20:38
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r0kk3rznot f-secure, f-droid20:39
attahTemeV: i read som egood stuff about it on TJC and some other place to.. but i can't claim to *know*.. it does have some scanning of apps that is shown for each20:39
TemeVr0kk3rz: I was almost googling that does f-secure have android store also :)20:42
r0kk3rznot sure, but i was thinking of f-droid20:43
r0kk3rzbut the wrong name came out20:43
TemeV:)20:43
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r0kk3rzbut depending on what apps you're after, you might just be better off ripping the APKs out of the play store20:45
TemeVwell, at the moment I only need whatsapp and telegram20:46
TemeVOn the other hand, Whatsapp is malware anyway so doesn't really matter where I download it...20:47
r0kk3rzyou could always try whatsup or mitakuuluuv320:47
TemeVI'll wait for them to mature,20:48
TemeVI guess if I block the access to contacts whatsapp can't do much harm in Jolla20:49
r0kk3rzbut, how can it work otherwise?20:50
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TemeVit has the contacts already20:50
r0kk3rzgive it a go anyway, but i wouldnt be surprised if it just dies20:50
TemeVand I only use it for a couple of group chats anyway20:50
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TemeVand now waiting for 5 minutes for whatsapp to call me20:54
TemeVit seems there is now "enter the code manually" thing anymore20:54
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TemeVyeah, doesn't work without access to contacts21:00
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r0kk3rzjollas method of denying contacts isnt particularly great or useful21:05
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r0kk3rzseems to kill the operation, rather than returning an empty contact list, or fake information21:06
TemeVyeah, empy list would be nice21:07
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mcfriskhavd u seen colin?? he's a short australian dude with long hair and beard..23:04
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