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| ottulo | here's the Digitoday article from yesterday in English, if anyone's interested http://pastebin.com/yUt5Bre5 | 07:09 |
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| Stskeeps | nod | 07:11 |
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| Nicd- | hope you didn't translate the comments | 07:43 |
| Nicd- | they're total digitoday quality | 07:44 |
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| ottulo | nah, I didn't even look at them | 09:59 |
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| mrx1 | hi, I'm considering buying jolla smartphone, but I have one question: Does it support disk encryption? | 12:03 |
| coderus | mrx1: "it" not support encryption, all partitions is btrfs. | 12:04 |
| coderus | mrx1: to do so you need to repartition things very carefully and make some ui loaded before os to ask your encryption password. so it's a lot of work and not worth it. | 12:06 |
| coderus | simple devicelock is useful and nobody except Jolla can ulnock your phone :) | 12:07 |
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| coderus | and when devicelocked you can't connect it via usb or access recovery | 12:07 |
| mrx1 | Such a shame. Jolla seemed perfect for me, but that lack of encryption kills it for me :( | 12:09 |
| zett_zelett | What phone does have encryption? | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | mrx1: we're working on disk encryption in general but no promises on it coming to jolla1 | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | mrx1: we have a pretty hefty bootloader protection though | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | but if somebody can solder out your eMMC.. | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:10 |
| mrx1 | zett_zelett: all modern android ones I think, at least my samsung galaxy s4 has it. | 12:10 |
| zett_zelett | Oh! | 12:10 |
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| mrx1 | Stskeeps: which is certainly possible in case of e.g. industry espionage | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | mrx1: yup | 12:11 |
| mrx1 | without encryption it's all security by obscurity :( | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | mrx1: we understand this and want the feature but we don't have it yet | 12:11 |
| mrx1 | ok | 12:12 |
| SQUelcher | mrx1: you want to use disk encryption so a thief cannot access your data? | 12:12 |
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| mrx1 | SQUelcher: yeah, that is one of example possible threats | 12:14 |
| mrx1 | and that thief can be technologically advanced one | 12:15 |
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| Stskeeps | mrx1: evil maids are fun | 12:16 |
| SQUelcher | mrx1: as the OS runs as a "virtual machine" inside the radio chipset, you would still be unprotected from undocumented attacks from your carrier | 12:17 |
| coderus | SQUelcher: what? | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | SQUelcher: what? | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:19 |
| coderus | tell it to ofono guys :D | 12:20 |
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| mrx1 | SQUelcher: I don't quite understand concepct of "virtual machine in radio chipset" ( :D ), but of course, disk encryption does not make it 100% secure, there are other attack vectors (e.g. vulnerabilities in software/firmware) | 12:25 |
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| kimmoli | did someone change topic to tinfoil-hat area? | 14:03 |
| Sail0r_ | oO | 14:04 |
| Sail0r_ | ah read the backlog | 14:05 |
| Sail0r_ | :D | 14:05 |
| kimmoli | i can reveal that my devicelock code is 6 consecutive numbers from decimals of pi | 14:06 |
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| mdxth | kimmoli, shit, i have the same :) | 14:14 |
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| zett_zelett | How I wish I could calculate pi. | 14:26 |
| zett_zelett | Is it proven that the decimal expansion of π contains all finite sequences of digits or not? I always forget. | 14:27 |
| zett_zelett | I think we only know that the probability that a given sequence is in π is 1. | 14:28 |
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| phlixi | and i guess for 6 digits you could just check :-) | 14:30 |
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| Mikaela | if I moved to ed25519 SSH key (for authentication) it seems that Jolla would be the only thing where I would be locked out as there is too old SSHd | 14:35 |
| Mikaela | was there some talk about it getting updated in near future? | 14:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Mikaela: afaik | 14:40 |
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| Acce | zett_zelett: yes: https://github.com/philipl/pifs | 15:00 |
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| zett_zelett | phlixi: I think this is semi-decidable. | 15:27 |
| zett_zelett | Or rather finitely semi-decidable or whatever the correct term is. | 15:28 |
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| Helle | oooh, Poppy Red is back in store | 15:30 |
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| pdanek1 | Do you guys think that KDE Plasma 5 is the future of Linux desktop? | 17:41 |
| pdanek1 | Can it win against raising Gnome 3? | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | oh dear | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:43 |
| zett_zelett | i3 is the future of Linux desktop. | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | i think maui project is | 17:43 |
| Lieke | xfce is | 17:46 |
| Coolgeek | W10 is the futur of linux desktop | 17:47 |
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| coderus | what, Gnome isnt dead yet? I thought GTK is dead end. | 18:00 |
| Coolgeek | I use it at work, works fine | 18:01 |
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| Blaaah | Hello! Does anyone know if there's a way to get Chrome working again on Jolla? Updated my Jolla to the latest update and it no longer works :( Can't find any info anywhere. Thank you. | 18:11 |
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| attah | Blaaah: Chrome for android? Never worked for me.. Have you checked the newly introduced android settings? | 18:23 |
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| Blaaah | Yes. And yes I have. At first, when Jolla phone was introduced, for really long, Chrome didn't work. Then after some update, it started miraculously working. I don't know what they did, but it worked... Until this latest update. | 18:26 |
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| coderus | Blaaah: works fine on my jolla. so your problem is somewhere else. | 20:23 |
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