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| zett_zelett | Ok, about the whole battery issue: What do I do if my battery fails after a year or so? Sit there and cry? | 08:17 |
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| PeperJohnny | there is someone who tried the htc desire 310 battery i think | 08:18 |
| tbr | there are known working replacements | 08:18 |
| PeperJohnny | He said that it's working without problems | 08:18 |
| zett_zelett | Oh, ok. | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | the devil about batteries is that shit first shows up after longtime use | 08:19 |
| PeperJohnny | https://together.jolla.com/question/65826/compatible-spare-battery/ | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:19 |
| PeperJohnny | the second answer | 08:19 |
| tbr | it's more likely you'll run into the contact problem. which is likely oxide buildup. easily fixed by carfully cleaning both battery and phone side contacts. | 08:19 |
| * Stskeeps needs to do that with his wife's device | 08:20 | |
| Stskeeps | (yes, sometimes device problems hits home too.. | 08:20 |
| PeperJohnny | impossible! :D | 08:20 |
| zett_zelett | Thanks. Another thing: How bad is the display issue? What does it take for the screen to become unreadable? Bright day or direct sunlight? | 08:22 |
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| Yaniel | direct sunlight | 08:23 |
| Yaniel | it is hard to read on bright days but doable | 08:23 |
| JMS_jolla | Hi all, before I jump and buy the phone.. after a few tests (mako), this is simply the most beautiful os I have ever tried | 08:24 |
| JMS_jolla | could anyone try a test of an android app for me before I jump? | 08:24 |
| JMS_jolla | I know it is a little rude | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | JMS_jolla: can always ask :) | 08:25 |
| PeperJohnny | Well what's the app` | 08:26 |
| PeperJohnny | ? | 08:26 |
| JMS_jolla | wifi calling is a must for me, rural area... | 08:26 |
| JMS_jolla | three in touch (UK) app needs to run for me | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't that require a subscription to test it in practice? | 08:26 |
| JMS_jolla | buying an Ubuntu touch phone has skinted me... but I neeeeed Jolla, it is amazing | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | you can try to ask on together.jolla.com | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | as well, for people who are also on 3 | 08:27 |
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| JMS_jolla | thnks anyway, I'll keep on searching :/... I had to ask | 08:28 |
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| Pawky|2 | WTF is this? with the new release 1.1.7.27 the OS seems to ask my carrier wether bluetooth tethering is supported, ending up telling me it isn't disabling the very feature I am using daily! Why on earth has Jolla done this change, who on earth wants it? | 08:42 |
| Pawky|2 | And most importantly, how do I get my bluetooth tethering working again? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | Pawky|2: that doesn't sound like something we've implemented? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | because bluetooth tethering was not implemented in OS before..? | 08:43 |
| Pawky|2 | But I can clearly see, when choosing bluetooth tethering it connects to the carrier, gets the answer unsupported | 08:43 |
| tadzik | Why do you think that it's asking your carrier | 08:43 |
| tadzik | Oh | 08:43 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: ehh.. I have been using it daily for a few months now, until upgrading | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | actually, i don't even think bluetooth tethering is in the UI? | 08:44 |
| Pawky|2 | tadzik: you can see it communicating with the carrier.... | 08:44 |
| * Stskeeps gets his phone | 08:44 | |
| Pawky|2 | I am using the jolla tethering app.... | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | Pawky|2: i don't have an option for bluetooth tethering on my phone? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | what jolla tethering app? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | think that's 3rd party | 08:45 |
| Pawky|2 | hmmm.... | 08:45 |
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| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: I thought it wasn't.... its a true sailfish app at least | 08:46 |
| kjetilho | still, Bluetooth tethering is an essential feature | 08:46 |
| Pawky|2 | so, it must be some changes in the last os making the app not understanding bluetooth tethering is possible... | 08:47 |
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| Pawky|2 | could it be the... bluetooth... what its called... for bluetooth isnt enabled ? | 08:47 |
| Pawky|2 | gosh, whats it called | 08:47 |
| Pawky|2 | protocol | 08:48 |
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| Pawky|2 | is there a way to get it working with hciconfig or something? | 08:50 |
| Pawky|2 | kjetilho: I presume thats what we soon to be tablet owners will use daily as the tablet has no sim card feture (strangely as its made by a phone company)... | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | Pawky|2: give me the exact string / error it uses? | 08:52 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: well... its the only internet connection I have at the moment... that would mean disconnecting... :-/ | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | Pawky|2: let's figure it out, since you went 'wtf' about it | 08:53 |
| Pawky|2 | But I believe it might all be about configuring that hci stuf | 08:53 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: ok.. i can do that... but lets first figure out wether the tethering softy is 3rd party, right? | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | i'm almost 100% sure it's 3rd party | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | we have 'internet sharing' in settings | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | why have another app? | 08:54 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: ok... for bluetooth? | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have bluetooth tethering in UI since 1) we never implemented a UI for it and 2) never certified that part of the bluetooth capabilities | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | it should still work though | 08:55 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: thus, I need a third party to have a gui for enabling it, right? | 08:55 |
| Pawky|2 | (app) | 08:55 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 08:57 |
| Pawky|2 | Then, I presume that app asks what protocls are defined locally | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | well, i don't know what the app does | 08:58 |
| Pawky|2 | and doesnt find the one making bluetooth tethering a possibility. | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | but i don't see any changes in the git repositories that would cause this | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | remember that tethering will open a gprs connection in general | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | even on wlan ap | 08:59 |
| Pawky|2 | The question is, wether I enabled it myself a long long time ago, and it got flushed out with the upgrade, or if there is a config change. | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | we don't intentionally break functionality :) | 08:59 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: thats why I went so WTF about it... ;-) | 09:00 |
| Pawky|2 | I feel I will have to spend later tonight to do some bluetooth hacking again. Your assurance nothing has changed has given me ideas how to fix it :-) | 09:00 |
| tadzik | Hm, I wish Sailfish Utilities had a Restart msyncd button | 09:01 |
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| Stskeeps | Pawky|2: this app? https://github.com/jlehtoranta/harbour-tethering-gui | 09:02 |
| Mikaela | tadzik: you could request it at https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-utilities/issues | 09:02 |
| tadzik | Oh, thanks :) | 09:03 |
| Mikaela | you're welcome | 09:03 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: yes, i think thats the one :-) | 09:03 |
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| Stskeeps | tadzik: Redtart? | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:04 |
| Mikaela | it looks like not entirely finished issue title or description | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | Pawky|2: file an issue with the app maker, then dive into stack.. can you enable gprs internet just fine? | 09:05 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: you mean the very old fashioned way as a modem? | 09:06 |
| TMavica | I am In China finding battery, they said they can make one at once in 15 minutes.. | 09:06 |
| Pawky|2 | I am using wifi tethering as of writing :-) | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | Pawky|2: no, as in enabling the Internet connection in the sailfish UI | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | if wifi tethering i'd certainly presume that bluetooth tethering works | 09:06 |
| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: thats what I also presumed... :-/ | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | in fact, i am fairly sure there's no generic means to ask a provider if they will allow tethering | 09:07 |
| Pawky|2 | I believe its all about that protocol not being enabled having to play with hcitool or hciconfig | 09:08 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: typong is hatd, and enter os close to backspace :P | 09:08 |
| Pawky|2 | Pawky|2: well.. I thhink i read about it for verizon in the states | 09:08 |
| * Stskeeps ponders if tadzik is on vkb | 09:08 | |
| Pawky|2 | they somehow turned such features of in their sim cards... | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | .. or drunk | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:08 |
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| Pawky|2 | I believe you can state what bluetooth protocols should be available default on a phone from the sim card.... but this is deep waters to me... | 09:10 |
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| Stskeeps | quite deep | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, probably some other reason | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | is bluetooth on | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 09:11 |
| Pawky|2 | yes :-) | 09:11 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: both :) | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: excellent | 09:12 |
| TemeV | tadzik: I use ShellEx for things like that | 09:12 |
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| Pawky|2 | Stskeeps: I will have to run, but will look into the matters later on tonight. To figure it out i need to disconnect anyways. I think its all about enabling the right protcols. This was so long time ago i will have to fiddle with it from scratch again. | 09:13 |
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| Pawky|2 | will give feedback on my progress ;-) | 09:13 |
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| tadzik | TemeV: oh, that sounds useful | 09:21 |
| kjetilho | gah. why does my Jolla say "Creating account" when I try to log in? | 09:23 |
| kjetilho | and of course it fails, since the account exists | 09:23 |
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| zett_zelett | Must I expect a noticable perfomance drop if I was to upgrade a Jolla to SaiflishOS 2.0? | 09:27 |
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| Stskeeps | no | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | we dev on jollas | 09:31 |
| kjetilho | so how come I never get the new releases? I feel like I always have to wait for months :) | 09:38 |
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| kjetilho | ok, I should read more of tjc, nvm! | 09:40 |
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| pdanek | https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/08/20/aquaris-e4-5-and-e5-ubuntu-editions-debut-in-india-with-snapdeal/ | 10:21 |
| pdanek | Ubuntu takes the lead over Sailfish? | 10:21 |
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| Stskeeps | pdanek: we did the same a year ago? | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | getting onto a marketplace like snapdeal is easy | 10:36 |
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| tathhu | :3 | 10:46 |
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| citylight2 | can I use a MHL cable to connect my jolla to a hdtv? | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | no | 11:26 |
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| citylight2 | did any one here responded to a new jolla phone release? | 11:44 |
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| citylight2 | the current phone is very sensitive compared to nexsus4/5 | 11:44 |
| kjetilho | sensitive? | 11:45 |
| citylight2 | when it drops, it dents, nexsus4 is much more durable | 11:45 |
| citylight2 | I mean I didn't break it yet, but I wish the phone was more durable | 11:45 |
| citylight2 | screen has a few scratches | 11:47 |
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| cb400f | citylight2: it's not the same price level as the nexus'es (when new), and Jolla always admitted they had to compromise to get the first phone out... did you hear about the Intex phone with Sailfish? | 12:43 |
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| * cb400f wonders how hard it will be to get it in on the western hemisphere | 12:44 | |
| cb400f | though my jolla is still as new after 20 months, but I treat it with the same care as I would a new-born baby ;-) | 12:45 |
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| citylight2 | I didn't know about that, ok hope these phones would be more durable | 12:49 |
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| cb400f | at least judging by the price they announced, it appears it'll be their flagship model, but dunno if that guarantees build quality | 12:54 |
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| pp_ | yah, big difference what to expect for 200e vs. 400e too. | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | even 25 USD phones aren't really that bad build quality today | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | i have one of those firefox ones and it's not like, crap | 13:04 |
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| attah | Has anyone used recovery mode in 1.1.7? Just curious if the recovery menu needs some as of yet unpublished update | 18:49 |
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| pp_ | hrmn, I think my "new" one was at 1.1.7 when I relocked the bootloader | 19:32 |
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| attah | bootloader operations seems to have worked (desperate me unlocked it) | 19:46 |
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| Blizzz | jolla store and journalctl tells me an update (to 1.1.7) is available, but settings claims it is up to date. Last check: 3 days ago. Manually checking keeps the message "Checking for updates" and nothing happens. journalctl, as said, prints that a new OS version is available. REbooted couple times, balanced btrfs as well. Still i am stuck. What would i do? | 21:24 |
| Blizzz | aside of pkcon update… | 21:25 |
| phlixi | just a wild idea | 21:25 |
| phlixi | go accounts and check if jolla account is active | 21:25 |
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| Blizzz | phlixi: yes, it is active. system claimed some time ago it needs update… well, gave the credentials again. jolla store works. | 21:26 |
| phlixi | then i have no idea, but i am just a noob.... :-) | 21:27 |
| phlixi | the others will probably help you | 21:27 |
| Blizzz | phlixi: ssu s tells me the device is not registered. no idea whether it should be like this? the device is shown on accounts.jolla.ocom | 21:27 |
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| Blizzz | set version via ssu re and doing version --dup now. let' s see | 21:34 |
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| Blizzz | nothing | 21:35 |
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