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TMavicaGoogle service must run in background if alien dalvik enabled?05:33
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trulshm07:41
trulscan the phone app, sms app and android apps, i.e. facebook, be disabled easily in a shell script? say like running in a crontab07:43
trulsand/or could someone make an other half with a breathalyzer07:44
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chem|stfor all the bugging people about tablet delay, just received email from another kickstarter, communication errors sent the items to distribution centers all over the world, by ship instead of airmail...08:23
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r3vlibre`chem|st: Thank you for the news ! Wow, its so surprising!!08:28
trulsgood for the environment!08:28
r3vlibre`truls: Yeah :) For Europe its gonna be ok, for US people, that might take a while ;)08:29
r3vlibre`US or other further areas of course :p08:29
chem|sttruls: items are pendrive size, so those 5eur for the environment to have them shipped by airmail would be well placed08:33
chem|stI assume those boxes weight less than 1kg in total08:33
chem|stand even better, they try to get a hold of them ever since (to get the boxes airmailed after all)08:35
the_mgtstill no excuse for extra shabby non-communication08:39
Stskeepschem|st: o_O08:44
the_mgtWaytools does the same kind of postponing the delivery date constantly, at least they present a nice photo love story, about why it fails. at least they try to present a good excuse:  https://waytools.com/threads/blog/assembly-mods08:45
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the_mgtoriginally, it would have arrived with the jolla tablet in may. but it seems they might still be in sync08:46
chem|stStskeeps: they negotiated direct airmail from china with the distributor, some communication between factory and distributer had it become a worldwide dstribution center shipment which is then sent by ship instead of airmail...08:52
chem|stthe_mgt: stop complaining, they shared stuff in between and for all I know we got informed that there is an issue with displays and that they 'hope' to fix it fast, now that went sideways, we got lastu insight on the way with prototype pictures and so on - if you want a weekly update, -1, it would mean that some people (more than 1) has to write blog posts every week to tell the same thing over and over again08:56
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the_mgtchem|st: look at the link from waytools. it is a lengthy, in depth analysis of the problem, with pictures. that's quite a difference to "oh, we wanted to deliver this week, display sucks, wait 2 more month, kthxbye"09:23
tiwakeenh09:29
tiwakeI dont care how 'informed' I am really. Development takes a lot of effort... development in a completely new device and formfactor to what they are used to takes even more effort09:30
tiwakemore effort means more development time09:31
chem|stthe_mgt: the display issue was announced before may09:33
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the_mgtchem|st: oh, ok, then it is ok if it takes until september09:42
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chem|stthe_mgt: ah so you want a borked display? it takes as long as it takes09:49
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the_mgtchem|st: I simply expect honesty and competence. If somehow a company fails to deliver both, despite having some experience with a previous problematic product release, I am annoyed.10:09
the_mgtI'd accept a properly played out excuse, but not non-communication and sorry excuses.10:10
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Stskeepsmeanwhile: http://www.plasma-mobile.org10:40
Sail0rdo a cooperation with them :P10:43
tbrnemo apps with generic qml or glacier should be easy.10:43
Stskeepswell, we pro::ly share a lot of componently10:43
tbrsailfish is a nogo as it's non-free10:43
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Sail0rand get rid of lipstick10:44
tadzikwow, cool10:44
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tbrbut nice to see that plasma for small devices isn't dead10:44
tiwakegiving streamsquid a shot10:44
tiwakehttp://streamsquid.com/10:44
tiwakeits interesting10:44
Stskeepswill look deeper at this when on laptop10:45
tiwakedifferent set of developers, as far as I can tell the same idea as grooveshark10:46
tiwake(though never used grooveshark, so donno)10:47
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ggabrielhi10:53
ggabrieli admit i had a fanboy moment yesterday10:53
ggabrielwhoever designed the sailfish calculator is genius10:53
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TofeStskeeps: nice to see the plasma mobile has made so great progress, I didn't realize11:19
Yanielggabriel: ?11:19
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ggabrielYaniel: well, it's in the store's description, but an unkown feature to me: do 1 + 2 + 3 = 6, then tap on the 1, backspace 2, result gets dynamically calculated to 711:20
ggabrieland if you use that result in another equation, it all gets changed, as in a spreadsheet11:20
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chem|stggabriel: +111:20
Yanielwhoa11:20
ggabrielwhen you don't split the bill equally in a restaurant, it's super useful11:21
ggabrielespecially when people change their minds11:21
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chem|stggabriel: only thing is divided by $answer does not work11:24
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ggabrielchem|st: maybe to avoid /0?11:24
ggabrieli was actually going to try if that breaks it :P11:25
chem|stnope divided by 0 gives infinity11:25
ggabrielwat :P11:25
ggabriel(ofc i understand why)11:25
ggabrielbut anyway, it's a great feature11:25
ggabrielfriends were impressed, so was i11:26
Tofeggabriel: hurray for QML associative properties :)11:26
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tiwakehttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=H.265-HEVC-Patent-Pool14:44
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Hellehrm, why can't there be a little icon for "audio redirected over bluetooth"18:59
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pdanekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KNtpNVqCBE23:42
pdanekIt looks like TOH compatible.23:42
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