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jaacoppiyeah, paypal seems to take "1.9% - 3.4% + 0,34€" according to https://www.paypal.com/ie/fees06:23
jaacoppibut flattr innovates with the monthly donation feature so that they'll have a steady revenue flow06:24
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kimmolinow, if the apps could be flattrd also from a web-page, not just from phone...06:38
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cybettekimmoli: i think apps/"things" and people can be flattered from profile page e.g.  https://flattr.com/profile/kimmoli06:46
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kimmolicybette: yes, that is possible... but...06:46
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coderusjaacoppi: paypal have monthly donations for ages...07:06
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Tofemmmh I can't connect to a wifi network, but I don't seem to get any log in the journal07:22
TofeWhat should I look at ?07:22
TofeI maybe have something, but from lipstick: NetworkService::handleConnectReply:396 - Reply from service.connect(): "Invalid arguments"07:25
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TofeBut I don't know what was the connect arguments in the first place07:26
Mikaelais there some known issue that can drop me to full 2G and require reboot (restarting connman in aliendalvik is not enough) to get almost full 3G07:26
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Tofeah, it's a 802.1x wifi network, that's why...07:32
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Tofemmh, looking at TJC, it's not really clear what's the status about this: there's a "roamer" app, there's planned support for WPA Entreprise from Jolla, there's some connman config files workaround... Does someone here know what I should use today?07:37
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ilpianistajust wondering: if I re-submit an app in the harbour does the app "looses" the priority (if any)?08:56
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Armadillomy experience says yes09:11
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nazaninilpianista: yup09:53
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dirkvlany news on tablet-dev-proto´s?10:53
dirkvlstill starting soon?10:53
narchiejolla tablet, shipping may 201510:53
tadzikBORING10:53
AciidI think this is a legit questuion10:53
narchieseems to excite you to the point of caps lock10:53
tadzikhardly, I don't see a point of repeating it every day when it's been stated that yes, it is indeed delayed10:54
grzywaczpointless indeed10:56
dirkvlquestion was about https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-developer-device-loan-program-starting-soon/10:56
dirkvlin case there are devs or jolla peeps here10:56
locusfhey come on its "soon" :)10:56
dirkvlnever mind.10:56
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AciidOC INCOMING, Apple time -> Valve time -> Sailfish time11:14
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sjtoikjust noticed a bit odd feature in call log. transfered calls dosn't show up in the history12:52
japa-fiHave you answered the call?13:00
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sjtoikjapa-fi: i did13:05
baumi noticed that kimmoli worked on an eInk TOH - pretty neat, by chance anyone is uptodate on the project?13:05
kimmolino progress. i got new displays but been busy with other stuff13:07
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baumalright, good to know thanks - incase you make progress let us know - i'd definitly buy one :)13:08
Armadilloif some of you finnish guys has too much free time, it would be great if you could complete this for the next release: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/tasklist/language/fi_FI/ :)13:10
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kimmoliArmadillo: passed your request to finnish channel13:23
Armadillooh thanks :)13:23
baumquick question: on which path could i acess the sdcard's data via ftp?13:24
coderusftp?13:25
baumcoderus: file transfer protocol13:25
_inte_hehe13:26
coderusoh, really?13:26
HtheBya rly13:26
coderusomg13:26
fluxit's not a bad question?-(13:26
coderusyou hav ftp server on jolla or what? i don't understand your problem13:26
fluxbut you need to install an ftp server to make that happen13:26
Nicd-could be talking about SFTP13:26
fluxI wonder if such is available in openrepos; I doubt it's in the jolla store13:27
_inte_baum: why don't you use ssh or sshfs13:27
baum_inte_: because acessing the phone via ftp works pretty good13:28
* _inte_ likes mounting his phone through sshfs13:28
coderusbaum: so you installed ftp server or what? what is your problem?13:28
Nicd-I think the question is "in which path is the sdcard mounted?"13:29
_inte_baum: where did you get the ftpd from?13:29
Nicd-I don't remember it offhand13:29
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baumcoderus: i'm currently searching the mount location of the sdcard - thought someone might know the path out of his mind13:29
coderus/media/sdcard/UUID13:29
_inte_just enter "mount" in terminal13:29
coderususing df -h or mount to get it yourself is slow?13:30
baum_inte_: ftpd works out of the box13:30
Nicd-baum: are you talking about sftp?13:30
_inte_[root@Jolla nemo]# which ftpd13:31
_inte_which: no ftpd in (/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/home/nemo/bin)13:31
baumcoderus: i'm currently using filezilla, means i don't have a remote session open yet13:31
Nicd-baum: sftp is not ftp13:31
Nicd-it only has the same kind of name13:32
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coderusbaum: you need to imstall ftp server to be able to connect using ftp :D13:32
_inte_ah, filezilla connects through sftp13:32
coderusisn't it obviously? :D13:32
baumNicd-: oh seems like i'm using fzSftp13:32
_inte_:-)13:32
coderussftp, okay13:32
coderusthen13:32
coderuswhat is your problem? :)13:32
coderusin terminal run mount or df -h and check where is your sdcard mounted13:33
_inte_or just cd into /media/sdcard13:33
chem|st+113:33
baum_inte_: /media/sdcard that's what i was looking for thanks13:34
baumcoderus: thanks to you too :)13:34
baumand to everyone else hehe13:35
chem|stbaum: you may rename yourself now to ast13:35
coderus lol, that was easy, but need to understand what you want first :D13:35
_inte_jep :)13:35
baumchem|st: why ast?13:35
chem|stwhy baum?13:35
baumchem|st: because i was sitting infront of one while registering my nick :)13:37
baumcoderus: yep, i should be more clear the next time, sorry13:38
chem|stbaum: so you are indeed able to understand German... now escalate Pfosten, Vollpfosten, ?13:38
chem|stdisturbing isn't it?13:39
baumthat escalated quickly!13:39
baumbut arn't we all vollpfosten?13:39
chem|stat least I am!13:39
* baum hops that nick isn't taken yet hehe13:40
baum*hopes13:40
chem|stbaum: you may be b00n and dEnglish it...13:40
baumDenglisch ist the best Englisch ;)13:41
chem|stbe aware that most denglish you may come up with for vollpfosten will mean huge cock!13:43
* chem|st should stop helping to find him a "massive pole" nickname13:43
baumthough here vollpfosten is most of the time ment in a good way13:44
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_inte_why is there not a single nemomobile app on openrepos?15:04
HtheB_inte_: cauz no one gives a f*ck :p15:04
_inte_:)15:04
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_inte_still surprises me15:04
HtheB_inte_: why note make one? :P15:04
HtheBnot*15:05
_inte_thought people were still playing with nemomobile on their N900/N95015:05
_inte_My N900 is somewhat outdated15:05
_inte_and nemo never really worked15:05
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_inte_however, i always thought some were still using nemo15:05
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locusfthere are :)15:07
locusfbut not too many :&15:07
locusf*:/15:07
_inte_well...15:07
_inte_there werent too many n950s out there i guess15:07
_inte_which is probably the only device where nemo ever was somewhat useable15:08
_inte_Im happy with sfos, though15:08
locusfwell theres N9, Jolla, basically all libhybris devices, rpi2, minnowmax15:09
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_inte_yeah but practically15:15
_inte_i also have a N9 but never used nemo on that15:15
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locusfyou can make calls with Nemo on Jolla, sms, wifi etc15:18
locusfif you install silica also sailfish apps15:18
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_inte_i could install nemo on the jolla?15:33
locusfyes15:33
locusfhttp://locusf.blogspot.fi/2014/12/nemo-mobile-distribution-installation.html15:33
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fennekkiwell, Sailfish is basically Nemo plus stuff so, why not15:33
locusfexactly15:34
locusfjust use the Jolla HA and its done15:34
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ScreamerXhello, are there any cases available which make the jolla phone more robust against accidental drops?15:48
ScreamerXsome kind of rubber around all edges?15:50
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dv_i am having a test call, and the input is not reacting16:35
dv_when I press the power button, the display lights up again, but the actual touch part is still locked16:35
_inte_dv_: you cant use your touchscreen at all?!16:36
dv_I press on it, nothing happens16:36
dv_this happened to me several times in the past16:36
dv_the only way to reset it so far has been to fully power off the phone16:36
dv_somehow, the touchscreen isn't re-enabled when during a call I enable the screen16:36
dv_is there some kind of GPIO maybe to enable it manually over ssh?16:37
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Stskeepsdv_: if you hover over the proximity it will lock the screen.. what version are you on?16:39
dv_latest16:39
_inte_sounds like your memory is full16:39
dv_when memory is full, touchscreen wont come back on?16:40
dv_the thing is, I want to hang up, but cant16:40
_inte_the whole device reacts funny16:40
dv_because the hang up button doesnt react16:40
_inte_dv_: ok THAT i experienced a couple of time as well16:40
_inte_I always swipe the calling app to the background16:40
dv_hmm perhaps the android stuff was eating ram16:41
_inte_and then, when its minimized, its possible to hang up through swiping the tile16:41
_inte_yes16:41
_inte_also possible16:41
dv_but its not just the hangup button16:41
dv_the other buttons dont react either16:41
_inte_i have android switched of all the time16:41
_inte_yes16:41
_inte_but if when you hang up it works again16:41
_inte_?16:42
dv_except, how am I supposed to hang up?16:42
dv_all ways of doing that are impossible16:42
_inte_oh16:42
dv_oh well I didnt try the backgrounding yet16:42
_inte_yeah that always works for me16:42
_inte_could really be a bug16:42
_inte_appeared with the must recent update I think16:42
dv_this was particularly annoying a while ago when I was talking to some technical service, and was supposed to choose in a menu where to go further16:48
dv_you know, stuff like "if you want to be connected to department X, press the 4"16:49
dv_well ... I couldnt press the 416:49
_inte_probably you could still SAY it :)16:49
_inte_but I agree16:50
_inte_its somewhat anoying16:50
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TomJHello18:05
TomJanybody here that also has a pebble time and jolla? :-)18:05
HtheBalmost18:05
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HtheBwaiting for steel :P18:05
TomJi keep getting a message saying i have to install the app18:05
TomJeven though i got them paired :/18:05
HtheBhave you installed the pebble app?18:06
TomJyes from warehouse18:06
HtheBis it the watch it self, or a watch app that tells you that18:06
TomJthe watch says i need to install app18:06
HtheBtell the what to go f itself18:07
HtheBwatch*18:07
HtheBhehe18:07
TomJit does say in the app my firmware is too old though18:07
HtheBtry to force shut down18:07
TomJso i did a donation to upgrade firmware :p18:07
HtheBah, you can upgrade your fw afaik, but its only at the payed version of pebble app18:07
TomJhow can you do force shut down on watch?18:07
HtheBalright then :D18:08
HtheBhold down the left button and middle button on the right18:08
TomJk thanks :-)18:08
TomJwill try :D18:08
TomJit flashed a bit and then it seems to be off now lol18:09
TomJah now it says disconnected18:09
TomJmaybe it's just some bluetooth error i will retry :D18:09
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HtheBif you keep holding down, even after some restart, it will go to recovery mode18:12
TomJk18:12
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TomJffs still nothing :/18:20
TomJand i can go in app store though18:20
TomJfrom pebble18:21
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TomJkeeps loading when i try to add a watchface18:30
TomJstill same image on screen18:30
TomJi will take a picture of it18:31
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TomJthis is a link of the image im getting http://1drv.ms/1BPo4Me18:35
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TomJHtehB? :-)18:45
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TomJthis is the screen of app http://1drv.ms/1Gumr3c18:49
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HtheBhmm18:53
HtheByou better ask on the forum18:54
HtheBbecause it does say indeed connected18:54
HtheBshould work....18:54
TomJwhich forum? :)18:54
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_inte_tjc I'd guess18:59
_inte_or rather tmo18:59
_inte_talk.maemo.org18:59
TomJk :-)18:59
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narchieso19:06
narchieis this a new feature19:06
narchieevery alarm snoozes itself regardless of whether I dismiss it or not19:06
narchiewheres the release notes19:06
attahnarchie: that's pretty old.. but it is limited to new/edited alarms unfortunately19:07
TomJhmm dont have that19:07
TomJfor me it always go to dismiss19:07
attahhttps://together.jolla.com/question/42802/request-snooze-behavior-when-you-miss-the-alarm/19:08
Aciidhttps://alone.jolla.com/question/20397/bug-incorrect-snooze-behavior/ it's not opening for me19:09
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_inte_alone???19:18
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trulshipster19:26
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kimmoliwasn't it https://foreveralone.jolla.com/ ?19:34
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cvp_hi19:38
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_inte_what about20:15
_inte_nokia.jolla.com20:15
_inte_scnr20:15
narchiewhy am I still getting the notification tip20:16
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narchieit's been a month20:16
narchiehow hard is it to flag something as seen and make it work20:16
Aciidnarchie: do you now mean "just the tip"?20:17
narchiemaybe20:18
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