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| henk | hi, today I woke up and my jolla says "dauerhaft gesperrt" which means something like "permanently locked". What does that mean? What can I do now? | 07:49 |
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| rubdos | henk, did you enter your pin 3 times wrongly? | 07:52 |
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| henk | rubdos: That’s the point that is bothering me so much: I didn’t knowingly do anything with the phone! It was laying on the bed beside me while i was sleeping. | 07:55 |
| henk | I assume it somehow thought the mattress was fingers that entered the security/lock code wrong 10 times! | 07:55 |
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| rubdos | henk, could be... Did you set up a recovery procedure? | 07:56 |
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| TemeV | henk: https://together.jolla.com/question/74465/how-to-unlock-permanently-locked-jolla-smartphone/ | 07:56 |
| henk | rubdos: i don’t think so, what would I have had to do for that? | 07:57 |
| rubdos | Iirc, there's a setting when setting to lock code. But I could be wrong though. | 07:57 |
| rubdos | s/to/the/ | 07:58 |
| henk | TemeV: i.e. https://together.jolla.com/question/74465/how-to-unlock-permanently-locked-jolla-smartphone/? the link in the comments is dead … | 07:58 |
| rubdos | henk, https://together.jolla.com/question/91297/how-to-recover-from-permanent-device-lock/ | 07:58 |
| rubdos | I hope you're a bit comfortable on the shell? | 07:58 |
| TemeV | henk: oh, that was wrong link | 07:59 |
| TemeV | rubdos pasted the correct one | 08:00 |
| henk | rubdos: a little, yes, thank you, I’ll be reading and see what I can do (: | 08:00 |
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| rubdos | Disclaimer: I don't know that this works. good luck :) | 08:04 |
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| Jonni | that works, as long as you know your lock code and know how to use terminal. | 08:10 |
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| henk | yes, worked fine (: | 08:11 |
| henk | TemeV, rubdos: thank you very much (: | 08:11 |
| rubdos | great :) | 08:11 |
| TemeV | nice :) | 08:12 |
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| random_user_587 | Hi all! Is there a way to get SailfishOS on Nexus4? | 09:17 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: there is some information in tjc | 09:18 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: sweet, thanks | 09:20 |
| random_user_587 | looks like 'beta quality' | 09:20 |
| random_user_587 | fair enough :) i'll give it a shot once I repair my network ^_^ | 09:20 |
| ggabriel | well, yeah, it isn't like google is making any extra effort to port sfos to their devices ;) | 09:21 |
| ggabriel | i mean, they may actually work at a decent speed if they do | 09:21 |
| TemeV | "beta quality" already? I thought it is still alpha :) | 09:22 |
| temmi_hoo | it's not something you want for non-geeks to try except possibly under controlled circumstances (ie. you have tested something and give it to someone to try just this one thing) | 09:23 |
| ggabriel | well, non geeks shouldn't have a smartphone altogether | 09:23 |
| temmi_hoo | they seem to be pretty happy about ismarts, the others are more lacking for nongeeks | 09:24 |
| temmi_hoo | androids get moldy and have software rot and it bloats and doesn't fit in the device any more | 09:24 |
| ggabriel | you could say the same for ios | 09:25 |
| ggabriel | try to own the same idevice for >2yr and there you go | 09:25 |
| temmi_hoo | ah | 09:26 |
| temmi_hoo | well dang | 09:26 |
| ggabriel | android suffers the same thing in different ways as some devices are crappier than others | 09:26 |
| ggabriel | get a nexus [latest] today, and it will definitely last you 2 years | 09:26 |
| ggabriel | but you'll pay the price for it | 09:26 |
| gabriel9 | OK, pull up for notifications works again :D | 09:27 |
| ggabriel | gabriel9: \o/ | 09:27 |
| ggabriel | how? | 09:27 |
| gabriel9 | duno | 09:27 |
| ggabriel | so it was a sw glitch? | 09:27 |
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| ggabriel | you upgraded to latest sfos? | 09:27 |
| gabriel9 | whole screen was unresponsive and then all started working... | 09:27 |
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| gabriel9 | yes i updated and it was not fixed, then again glitch with whole screen and it works. :) | 09:28 |
| gabriel9 | Just to stay like this :) | 09:28 |
| ggabriel | i hope so | 09:28 |
| gabriel9 | :) | 09:28 |
| gabriel9 | when we will get Sailfish 2.0? | 09:29 |
| ggabriel | july 31st | 09:29 |
| ggabriel | or #soon | 09:29 |
| gabriel9 | And for early adopters? | 09:29 |
| ggabriel | I made a countdown if you need one: https://gagv.org.uk/jollatablet.html | 09:29 |
| ggabriel | (with some help) | 09:29 |
| ggabriel | july 31st minus 1 week? | 09:29 |
| ggabriel | or maybe early adopters get it with the early tablets? | 09:30 |
| gabriel9 | maybe | 09:30 |
| gabriel9 | i now wait for yotaphone with sailfish :) | 09:30 |
| ggabriel | i may buy another jolla since my screen is quite broken | 09:31 |
| gabriel9 | i was thinking to get some android and then put sailfish on it but waste of money | 09:31 |
| ggabriel | not sure about yotaphone | 09:31 |
| gabriel9 | you should wait for new Jolla or phone with SF OS | 09:31 |
| ggabriel | a new jolla may be too far away in the future | 09:31 |
| gabriel9 | 3 years has passed from first Jolla | 09:31 |
| ggabriel | and my screen may not last that long | 09:31 |
| gabriel9 | :( | 09:32 |
| ggabriel | another device with sfos has to be compelling | 09:32 |
| gabriel9 | If you can find it cheap then take it, here i cant find new Jolla... | 09:32 |
| ggabriel | 250e is pretty cheap | 09:32 |
| ggabriel | but ofc that depends on where you are/what you do/etc | 09:32 |
| gabriel9 | yes | 09:34 |
| gabriel9 | here 250e is monthly paycheck :D | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | ufff | 09:34 |
| gabriel9 | well more 200e | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | well, sadly, if you want a cheap phone, just get an android | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | and don't install crap on it | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | or get a dumb phone | 09:34 |
| gabriel9 | its not in my case i work in IT and i can earn nicely | 09:35 |
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| gabriel9 | but most of the people are strugling... (sorry for any typo) | 09:35 |
| temmi_hoo | where? | 09:35 |
| gabriel9 | Bosnia and hercegovina | 09:35 |
| gabriel9 | Guys anyone needs honey? :D | 09:36 |
| gabriel9 | I have bees and just got 350kg of pure natural honey :) | 09:36 |
| gabriel9 | its cheap 7e | 09:36 |
| ggabriel | i'd get some if i were close to you | 09:37 |
| gabriel9 | Where are you? | 09:37 |
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| ggabriel | uk | 09:37 |
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| gabriel9 | thats far away, and i think they would not let me to send it... | 09:38 |
| ggabriel | no, i'd spend 10x that in quarantine and fluff | 09:39 |
| ggabriel | i'd need to physically go and get it, and that _may_ be ok | 09:39 |
| gabriel9 | i think eu dont let import of food from my country(with good reasons) | 09:40 |
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| ggabriel | you'll find that it won't be easy for individuals like yourself to produce honey and comply to all EU regulations | 09:41 |
| ggabriel | coply to? comply with, rather | 09:41 |
| gabriel9 | i know, but i will try to export it or something like that | 09:42 |
| gabriel9 | we still have clean nature | 09:42 |
| gabriel9 | it is a waste to not to use it | 09:43 |
| ggabriel | i'm sure you can eat it :) | 09:43 |
| ggabriel | honey lasts forever | 09:43 |
| temmi_hoo | honey <3 | 09:43 |
| gabriel9 | what is the price of honey in eu? | 09:44 |
| gabriel9 | without any aditives or suggers | 09:44 |
| ggabriel | try tesco.com for UK | 09:44 |
| ggabriel | and look for "organic" honey | 09:44 |
| ggabriel | they normally don't put additives in honey anyway, allegedly | 09:45 |
| zutto | somewhere around 5jewros per liter of honey in finland | 09:45 |
| zutto | so not that expensive | 09:45 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: I bought my Nexus 4 in April 2012, and still, nothing really wrong with it (except perhaps not getting Android M on it... but Cyanogen will make it, I hope) (and a tiny tiny crack or scratch, can't tell) | 09:45 |
| gabriel9 | zutto, is it organic? | 09:45 |
| temmi_hoo | in finland natural honey from wild flowers is not allowed to be sold as organic, it would have to be honey from organically grown flowers | 09:45 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: fair enough, I don't like the reception quality of the last 2 nexus's, nor I like their call quality, nor their build quality | 09:46 |
| zutto | ggabriel: no idea | 09:46 |
| temmi_hoo | same thing for hunted wild animals, not organic | 09:46 |
| ggabriel | zutto meant gabriel9 :P | 09:47 |
| zutto | yeah, sorry | 09:47 |
| zutto | :P | 09:47 |
| random_user_587 | I really dislike the ergonomy of N5 and 6. N4 is just right and also, it was really cheap when it hit ht e market. So all in all, a very good investment at the time | 09:47 |
| zutto | funny thing about one of the common honeys in funland, x-tra honey is that its produced in china, packaged in denmark and sold in finland | 09:47 |
| random_user_587 | (sfos wasn't ready at the time IIRC) | 09:47 |
| gabriel9 | i need to read more about eu and organic stuff | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: i'd consider an htc made nexus tbh, they have been making phones forever | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | i'd buy a nokia made nexus, but that's impossible | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | since nokia doesn't exist any more :) | 09:48 |
| zutto | nokia does exist | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | they don't make phones though | 09:48 |
| zutto | they will soon | 09:48 |
| zutto | not directly tho | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | #soon | 09:48 |
| random_user_587 | I had a HTC Legend and the latest series (HTC One <whatever>) are really pleasing to the eye | 09:48 |
| zutto | they bought the alcatel-lucenta | 09:48 |
| zutto | and they make phones | 09:49 |
| zutto | :P | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | not the same quality though | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | they have to start all over | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | hire all staff all over | 09:49 |
| zutto | tru | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | get to the right standard again | 09:49 |
| zutto | i doubt that they will go directly to making phones anymore | 09:49 |
| zutto | cause its not good business | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | they should do neural laces | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | maybe they'll be popular again in 2 generations or so | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | (as in nokia, not the neural laces) | 09:50 |
| random_user_587 | I just saw it was possible to run systemd containers in sfos... does SFOS also support android applications ? | 09:50 |
| random_user_587 | (answer yes an dnext phone I buy will be sfos powered) | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: the jolla has alien dalvik, so yes, i can run android applications | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | but it isn't available for ported devices | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | same with maps | 09:50 |
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| random_user_587 | ggabriel: only still one phone with SFOS? I must confess i'm not quite uptodate with current development and market of Jolla/SFOS | 09:51 |
| Nicd- | random_user_587: they said they'd reveal a new sfos phone manufacturer this summer | 09:51 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: officially, yes, but it's been ported to a number of devices with different levels of functionality | 09:51 |
| temmi_hoo | is systemd container like docker or like jail? | 09:52 |
| random_user_587 | temmi_hoo: docker uses containers | 09:52 |
| random_user_587 | and they share the same philosophy than jails | 09:52 |
| random_user_587 | (FreeBSD user here) | 09:52 |
| temmi_hoo | hi there | 09:52 |
| temmi_hoo | i've been on freebsd since 386bsd | 09:53 |
| random_user_587 | docker is a kind of (really insecure and highly overrated) wrapper around LXC and cgroups and containers | 09:53 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: but but it's got a really cool name! | 09:54 |
| random_user_587 | temmi_hoo: newbie here, only 3 years XP, 3 servers, ~15 jails, nothign production critical, though I had a good master | 09:54 |
| temmi_hoo | docker users are used to pasting things from web pages into their sudo shell | 09:54 |
| temmi_hoo | things that netcat or curl more stuff from the web | 09:54 |
| random_user_587 | temmi_hoo: I can't believe even blackarch does this | 09:54 |
| temmi_hoo | everybody thinks this is perfectly okay and totally rad and cool | 09:54 |
| random_user_587 | (IS security repo for archlinux) | 09:54 |
| random_user_587 | curl http://whatever | sudo bash | 09:54 |
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| ggabriel | well, do don't need to be a docker user to do outrageous things | 09:55 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: rocket (rkt) has even a better name! (and promises to be even better) | 09:55 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: but but rocket shoots off, while docker docks/integrates | 09:56 |
| temmi_hoo | i bet you could dock a rocket | 09:56 |
| ggabriel | put your manager hat on ;-) | 09:56 |
| ggabriel | temmi_hoo: well, aim it to the iss, see if it docks | 09:56 |
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| random_user_587 | how is battery life on the Jolla phone? | 09:59 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: it's fairly good in my experience, but of course depends on a huge number of things | 10:00 |
| ggabriel | i charge it every night, but then I actually use it | 10:00 |
| ggabriel | some people report that it lasts 2-3 days | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | some others complain too much without giving a real reason | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | smartphones are hard to assess battery life wise | 10:01 |
| random_user_587 | say, you just let it sit around, 3G/4G off, and send ~20 texts a day, vs. GPS guidance | 10:02 |
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| ggabriel | random_user_587: what's "vs. GPS guidance"? | 10:04 |
| ggabriel | also, having 3/4g off may be counterproductive | 10:04 |
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| random_user_587 | how long does the battery last whilst using the phone to guide you using GPS? my N4 doesn't last 3 hours | 10:07 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: with screen on? | 10:07 |
| ggabriel | i haven't tested that tbh | 10:07 |
| random_user_587 | also, 3G/4G off is not a bad idea when you have a WiFi connection | 10:07 |
| ggabriel | maybe 10hr? | 10:07 |
| ggabriel | gps tracking isn't the problem, the problem is the screen in that case | 10:07 |
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| ggabriel | oh, no, my n9 used to last up to 10 hours | 10:08 |
| ggabriel | with the screen on | 10:08 |
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| ggabriel | the jolla i never tested | 10:08 |
| random_user_587 | ok | 10:08 |
| ggabriel | 3hr on the nexus is substandard... but then again, the nexus must be uploading tons of information to oogle | 10:08 |
| random_user_587 | what about networking: what happens if 1) I have a not working WiFi connection (login portal) 2) a working 3G/4G connection? | 10:09 |
| ggabriel | i often use the phone offline when i do satnav | 10:09 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: that's quite possible, yes | 10:09 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: so long as you don't connect to the wifi, it'll use 3g/4g | 10:09 |
| random_user_587 | does SFOS have support for WPA-SIM? | 10:09 |
| ggabriel | i'm not sure what that is | 10:09 |
| random_user_587 | WiFi authentication using the Sim card as authentication factor | 10:10 |
| ggabriel | i generally avoid public ap's fwiw | 10:10 |
| ggabriel | i'd guess it doesn't | 10:10 |
| ggabriel | but i may be wrong | 10:10 |
| random_user_587 | exactly the point: those APs are secured with WPA-SIM | 10:10 |
| random_user_587 | (it can be built into wpa_supplicant) | 10:10 |
| ggabriel | well, if it's easy to configure, maybe you can diy | 10:10 |
| ggabriel | some peeps had wpa-enterprise working that way | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | i think it's supported now | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | you do get a terminal, sudo, etc | 10:11 |
| random_user_587 | wpa-enterprise being... 802.1X with PEAP and MSCHAPV2 ? | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | yeah | 10:11 |
| random_user_587 | yeah \o/ terminal | 10:11 |
| ggabriel | you could try all that on the n4 anyway | 10:12 |
| ggabriel | some people reported better battery usage than android, but that isn't surprising | 10:12 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: true that but ATM, my personal network at home is broken, so can't DL until... later this week | 10:12 |
| random_user_587 | depends on the bloat running in the background | 10:13 |
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| random_user_587 | I'd love to precisely chosse what runs on my phone | 10:13 |
| ggabriel | random_user_587: well, that's difficult, but possible | 10:14 |
| ggabriel | sadly, there are many things that are a black box still | 10:14 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: if it's just yet another linux distribution, then alright | 10:14 |
| ggabriel | the modem part of phones is still rather closed | 10:14 |
| ggabriel | and the modem part has access to * | 10:14 |
| ggabriel | so, it's still hard ;-) | 10:15 |
| random_user_587 | yep, read quite a bit about that | 10:15 |
| temmi_hoo | http://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/sites/default/files/imagecache/biggest/domain-9603/kuvat/P8150009.JPG <-- here's a modem for you | 10:15 |
| random_user_587 | (wasn't around at the time this was a thing) | 10:15 |
| ggabriel | that one is awesome | 10:15 |
| ggabriel | but it's too fast | 10:15 |
| random_user_587 | 56K, yeah! | 10:15 |
| ggabriel | arguably, if you're really paranoid, you could carry a dumb phone with ap capabilities | 10:16 |
| ggabriel | and connect to it whatever you want | 10:16 |
| ggabriel | via bt too | 10:16 |
| krnlyng | what do i do if no usb device is shown in ifconfig, when i connect my jolla in dev mode? it works on my laptop but not my desktop, both Arch Linux | 10:16 |
| ggabriel | bt will use less battery | 10:16 |
| ggabriel | krnlyng: do you have the right kernel modules on your desktop? | 10:17 |
| ggabriel | krnlyng: do you see erorrs in /var/log/messages? | 10:17 |
| krnlyng | ggabriel: not sure which ones are required? | 10:17 |
| ggabriel | krnlyng: well, compare with lsmod | 10:17 |
| random_user_587 | krnlyng: compare the list of packages, rundmesg on both as you connect them | 10:17 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: no more /var/log, arch uses sytemd, so journalctl | 10:18 |
| ggabriel | oh, yuk | 10:18 |
| random_user_587 | ggabriel: systemd has some huge advantages :P and we can use it on Jolla AFAICT | 10:18 |
| ggabriel | systemd can also write to /var/log | 10:18 |
| ggabriel | it's a lot easier to grep something /var/log than to remember that there's a dedicated binary for the system log too | 10:19 |
| ggabriel | but what do i know ;-) | 10:19 |
| ggabriel | anyway, you can do journalctl -f krnlyng | 10:20 |
| ggabriel | it *should* say which module you're loading | 10:20 |
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| ggabriel | otherwise lsusb is your friend | 10:20 |
| ggabriel | or lsusb -v, rather | 10:20 |
| krnlyng | https://bpaste.net/show/4ab00361afe8 | 10:20 |
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| krnlyng | ah it works now | 10:21 |
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| tadzik | hmm, it seems to me that the Email app doesn't notice if read status changes on the IMAP server | 11:36 |
| tadzik | still thinks everything is unread | 11:37 |
| ggabriel | what server are you using? | 11:37 |
| Nicd- | it does notice, I mark emails as read on my computer all the time | 11:49 |
| Nicd- | just needs to sync and that takes a while | 11:49 |
| ggabriel | dovecot works pretty well fwiw | 11:49 |
| ggabriel | ofc you have to wait a bit if your connection drops | 11:50 |
| tadzik | ggabriel: whatever my provider is using, I've no idea | 11:58 |
| tadzik | but I use many thunderbirds with this account, they all work like a charm. jolla-email does not | 11:58 |
| tadzik | it's both with gmail and my regular email | 11:59 |
| ggabriel | tadzik: isp provider? | 11:59 |
| tadzik | no, email provider :) It's onet.pl | 11:59 |
| ggabriel | hard to troubleshoot these things when you don't have access to the server | 11:59 |
| tadzik | yeah | 12:00 |
| tadzik | but the thing is, all the other clients that I'm using realize that it was read somewhere else | 12:00 |
| tadzik | perhaps they're marking it in a way jolla doesn't recognize | 12:00 |
| ggabriel | you can report it in tjc, but that doesn't prove anything | 12:00 |
| tadzik | yeah | 12:00 |
| ggabriel | at thee end of the day, they have to follow the rfc | 12:00 |
| ggabriel | although that isn't perfect all the time | 12:01 |
| tadzik | well, it' | 12:01 |
| tadzik | it's like following web standards | 12:01 |
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| ggabriel | if it's free, maybe somebody can open an account there and troubleshoot further | 12:01 |
| tadzik | standards are one thing, website compatibility is another story | 12:01 |
| ggabriel | yeah, and you know how well web standards are being followed | 12:01 |
| tadzik | exactly | 12:01 |
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| narchie | jolla tablet, shipping may 2014 | 12:24 |
| ggabriel | thing of the past surely | 12:25 |
| tadzik | heh, I thought it's still may | 12:25 |
| narchie | oh look ;^) | 12:25 |
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| flux | "Uusin SailfishOS-päivitys Aaslakkajärvi nyt saatavilla.." "Äijänpäivänjärvi-nimeä kantava Sailfish OS -päivitys on nyt asennettavissa kaikkiin Jolla-puhelimiin." | 15:04 |
| flux | someone pressed the wrong button? | 15:04 |
| Mikaela | :) | 15:04 |
| ggabriel | it makes sense | 15:04 |
| flux | "send to all" oops no save as draft | 15:05 |
| Mikaela | (Aaslakkajärvi is released and Äijänpäivänjärvi can now be installed to all phones) | 15:05 |
| Mikaela | *all Jolla phones | 15:06 |
| flux | seems like the same text as before, but now with another release name | 15:06 |
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| wysiwtf | im not sure the releasenames are chosen wisely | 15:07 |
| flux | indeed. it seems aaslakkajärvi is way too easy to spell. | 15:07 |
| wysiwtf | at least for foreigners they all look more or less like the same gibberish :p | 15:07 |
| wysiwtf | "which version do you have?" | 15:07 |
| wysiwtf | "uh.. i have a version, yes." | 15:08 |
| ggabriel | i think they're really cool | 15:08 |
| ggabriel | also, you have a number if you don't like the name | 15:08 |
| Mikaela | they are all lakes in Finland and just wait for some years and they all are famous sights to everyone visiting Finland :) | 15:08 |
| wysiwtf | yeah im sure kitkat sales skyrocketed when google called their android version that too ;) | 15:08 |
| flux | if by everyone you mean to a few jolla owners | 15:08 |
| Mikaela | "the country of thousands lajes) | 15:08 |
| Mikaela | *lakes" | 15:08 |
| ggabriel | highly advisable though, they are very nice | 15:09 |
| Mikaela | no idea about kitkats but everyone loves ice cream sandwich | 15:09 |
| flux | maybe if jolla folds they can reinvent themselves as a traveling agency! | 15:09 |
| silver_hook | Whoops, I just updated SailfishOS and re-enabled Maze Lock and now I can’t see the lock at all. | 15:09 |
| silver_hook | How can I disable the Maze Lock and/or log into my phone? | 15:10 |
| silver_hook | coderus: ^^ Help :/ | 15:11 |
| silver_hook | coderus: I think I found the answer. | 15:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | i would say ssh is your best bet | 15:17 |
| silver_hook | r0kk3rz: Yup, I guess so. But I can’t get into the recovery mode :/ | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | you have not enabled dev mode? | 15:19 |
| silver_hook | Yes | 15:19 |
| silver_hook | I do. | 15:19 |
| tadzik | you still need to unlock the device to enable usb developer mode | 15:19 |
| r0kk3rz | true, but wifi is automagic | 15:19 |
| silver_hook | Or, at least, I think I do. I have something in that direction enabled. | 15:19 |
| r0kk3rz | silver_hook: if your phone is connected to the wifi, you should be able to log into it with ssh as is | 15:20 |
| Mikaela | same with mobile data if you know the IP | 15:21 |
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| Mikaela | dualstack lite here | 15:21 |
| r0kk3rz | you can? hmm i might look at the sshd config and stop that on mine then | 15:21 |
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| coderus | silver_hook: can't see the lock means what/ | 15:23 |
| coderus | ? | 15:23 |
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| Mikaela | r0kk3rz: just disable password authentication | 15:26 |
| r0kk3rz | and micromanage it every time I want to connect? yeah I can just set the interface, its easier | 15:27 |
| silver_hook | coderus: I re-enabled the Maze Lock patch after I upgraded to u15 and now the lock doesn’t show at all (neither the maze nor the numeric lock). | 15:27 |
| Mikaela | what is micromanagement? I am talking about SSH keys | 15:27 |
| r0kk3rz | oh key certs, yeah could do that i suppose | 15:28 |
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| coderus | silver_hook: interesting, so you can't access ssh now via wifi? | 15:29 |
| silver_hook | coderus: I couldn’t so far, I’m trying to see if it’s on a different IP | 15:29 |
| XwZ | hi, I have a question about my jolla, since a few weeks, in the parameters' main page I haven't light and volume controls anymore, is there any way to get them back ? | 15:30 |
| coderus | silver_hook: check router weebpage dhcp leases or special lan clients page. usually ips are there | 15:31 |
| r0kk3rz | XwZ: under display, long press the slider and set as favourite? | 15:31 |
| silver_hook | coderus: I’m already on it :) | 15:31 |
| coderus | sshed? | 15:31 |
| coderus | pkcon install lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 jolla-settings-system | 15:32 |
| silver_hook | coderus: Yes, I’m sshd :) | 15:32 |
| XwZ | r0kk3rz: i didn't knew that it was possible ! thank you ! Jolla rocks ! | 15:32 |
| silver_hook | coderus: As "nemo"? | 15:32 |
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| coderus | yes if you have warehouse installed | 15:32 |
| coderus | if no do [devel-su -p] before | 15:32 |
| silver_hook | coderus: I do. | 15:32 |
| coderus | and reboot/or systemctl --user restart lipstick after | 15:33 |
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| silver_hook | coderus: That did it! \o/ | 15:38 |
| silver_hook | You rock! | 15:38 |
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| ggabriel | hehe, ok, i received the emial now | 15:41 |
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| Mikaela | I heard that restarting lipstick fixes broken clipboard and I had some kind of idea of it bein software launcher/everything in the background and it did that, but no one warned me that it closes everything I had running :( | 16:02 |
| ggabriel | lipstick is the UI | 16:03 |
| ggabriel | if you're a mac user, it's like restarting finder | 16:03 |
| temmi_hoo | i can restart finder no prob | 16:03 |
| ggabriel | or xorg-server if you're a linux user | 16:03 |
| ggabriel | yes, it closes everything | 16:03 |
| temmi_hoo | nothing else is interested if finder restarts | 16:03 |
| temmi_hoo | finder is just the file manager part | 16:03 |
| ggabriel | uhm... | 16:03 |
| ggabriel | so they changed it | 16:03 |
| ggabriel | then it used to close everything | 16:04 |
| ggabriel | anyway | 16:04 |
| ggabriel | you get the idea | 16:04 |
| temmi_hoo | well yes it's more like if you close the xsession you have | 16:04 |
| temmi_hoo | be it the sh running .xsession as traditionally or some other dm running it some other way | 16:05 |
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| Mikaela | xorg-server makes no sense, restarting finder has only closed filebrowser since at least Snow Leopard which is the first OS X I have used | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | ok, my mistake re mac os x | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | it's like starting xorg-server | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | so, all your applications go away | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | not the end of the world though | 16:08 |
| Mikaela | -no | 16:09 |
| Mikaela | xorg-server makes sense to me, I misspelled sorry | 16:09 |
| temmi_hoo | Mikaela: so now you know you got to be careful when applying lipstick | 16:09 |
| temmi_hoo | i can't do that, i'm not nearly accurate enough | 16:10 |
| temmi_hoo | tried though | 16:10 |
| Mikaela | yes, but I am still lost on how to fix clipboard when it stops copying, until Aaslakkajärvi it was pressing "restart keyboard" in Sailfish utilities | 16:10 |
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| Crow_ | Hi everybody, is there anyone who has trouble to update app from the original playstore with mobile connection ? | 16:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | i have found that the data connection with android can be a bit flakey | 16:34 |
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| Crow_ | it worked fine for me during 4 month and since this night it won't update | 16:38 |
| Crow_ | it's searshing for the network without finding it | 16:39 |
| Crow_ | searching* | 16:39 |
| r0kk3rz | other network related things working in dalvik? | 16:44 |
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| Crow_ | I don't know yet | 16:46 |
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| Crow_ | i'm in my school now, and even if it's a computer engineering school, they can't maintain a decent network ... | 16:46 |
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| Crow_ | so i can't test by wifi | 16:47 |
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| Crow_ | It works again, i don't know why ... | 16:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | its a school, of course the wifi is going to be dodgy | 17:04 |
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| Anz- | failing on un- applying, unistalling patch. help? | 17:35 |
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| coderus | Anz-: which one? | 17:37 |
| Anz- | gallery Zoom (Ancelad) | 17:37 |
| coderus | unapplying AFTER upgraded? | 17:37 |
| Anz- | OS version: 1.1.4, patch version: 0.0.2 | 17:39 |
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| Anz- | an upgrade (v0.0.3) for the patch is available, which is for 1.1.6. I am now trying to unapply all patches before updating OS | 17:45 |
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| coderus | no idea why it not unapplying | 18:11 |
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| Anz- | thanks coderus. the OS update can wait :) | 18:19 |
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| coderus | Anz-: ask author on openrepos | 18:31 |
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| Sail0r | hui, there will be war https://i.imgur.com/uydmjv4.png | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 19:38 |
| Sail0r | I first thought it's a fake | 19:38 |
| Sail0r | but for real my ublock does it also | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | next up, jolla.com is blocked for being not firefox os? | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:39 |
| Sail0r | yep :P | 19:42 |
| Sail0r | for postponing tablet | 19:42 |
| Sail0r | and for $needs_to_be_defined_later | 19:42 |
| ortylp | sailfish update installed, no problems yet | 19:43 |
| Nicd- | Sail0r: maybe because sourceforge serves adware nowadays | 19:48 |
| Sail0r | yeah sure because of that | 19:48 |
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